US Politics May 2019: " If I was burned at the stake, I would ask for a mirror"

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so the Corpse of Grassley returns to a familiar right wing fever swamp talking point.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:07 (three months ago) link

reptile Grassley: are you looking into whether Steele dossier is russian disinfo?

if the senate had an 8chan caucus

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:08 (three months ago) link

it's fucking maddening !! omg!!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:09 (three months ago) link

destroy the senate imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:10 (three months ago) link

Feinstein and Leahy sound like they are recapping yesterday's bingo game over soft food

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:12 (three months ago) link

did Leahy have his voice box removed ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:15 (three months ago) link

Leahy's got a voice box

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:16 (three months ago) link

wow what a petulant disingenuous piece of shit this guy is

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:18 (three months ago) link

thanks obama

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:19 (three months ago) link

well surely all thanks need to go McConnell's way.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:21 (three months ago) link

lol it's someones elses fault for not warning Trump about Russia ! omg this is despicable

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:25 (three months ago) link

Thank you, @atrupar!

Lindsey Graham saying "Trump is a fucking idiot" on loop.🤣🤣🤣#BarrLied #barrhearing #wednesdaywisdom pic.twitter.com/CBNJ5Q7jfK

— Holly Figueroa O'Reilly (@AynRandPaulRyan) May 1, 2019

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:44 (three months ago) link

Subject header of White House Email sent minutes ago might apply to our country as well:

Don’t Call it a Coup. Venezuelans Have a Right to Replace an Oppressive, Toxic Regime.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:48 (three months ago) link

Venezuelans are Clapping Back at Maduro’s Toxic Masculinity and We Are Here For It.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:54 (three months ago) link

oh, good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 15:56 (three months ago) link

Hi Will, thanks for doing this AMA! My wife's boyfriend and I are huge fans of yours!

Simon H., Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:25 (three months ago) link

March 5: The Special Counsel meets with Barr and informs him that “the introductions and executive summaries of our two-volume report accurately summarize this Office’s work and conclusions.”

March 24, early afternoon: The Special Counsel reiterates the purpose of the Mueller report’s executive summaries and introductions.

March 24, late afternoon: Barr sends his now-notorious letter to Congress, which was made public immediately, purporting to outline the Mueller report’s top-line conclusions.

March 25, morning: The Special Counsel’s office informs the Justice Department that his letter to Congress “did not fully capture the context, nature, and substance of this Office’s work and conclusions.” It’s not clear who communicated with whom in this instance, or in what form.

March 27: Mueller sends a letter to Barr complaining about the March 24 letter and urging him to release the executive summaries.

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:25 (three months ago) link

Favourite flavour of boot?

Lars Ulriac Quintet (Leee), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:21 (three months ago) link

Ben Sasse going rogue

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 17:22 (three months ago) link

Hirono killin it

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:03 (three months ago) link

Well its all being recorded and at some point in the future people will be able to look back and see who's trying to pass themselves off as the voice of conscience.
Cruz bleurrgh. & everybody else here who thinks that being a stooge is a noble pursuit.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:45 (three months ago) link

in the future these people will all be in crypts made of gold

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 18:50 (three months ago) link

it ith over.

can't believe that. BS.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:19 (three months ago) link

If Mueller was so concerned about this shit maybe he should have come to a real conclusion instead of concluding with " Maaaaaaybe? What do you think?"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:43 (three months ago) link

the report concluded that there was insufficient evidence to lay charges regarding any treasonous stuff with russia and washed its hands of making judgements about obstruction.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:45 (three months ago) link

so it was conclusive in its own way.

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:46 (three months ago) link

If Mueller was so concerned about this shit maybe he should have come to a real conclusion instead of concluding with " Maaaaaaybe? What do you think?"


Not if he intended to follow the law and his charge—that’s the idea. In fact, Barr’s treatment of the material after the fact was the big fuck up in terms of what the DOJ can and can’t do.

Mueller didn’t charge obstruction out of fairness TO the president, based on current DOJ policy—not to make things look more damning than they were.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:52 (three months ago) link

Constitutional crisis yet?
Or has it been like that for the last while.
I don't think history is going to be overly kind to senator Graham, probably not the Hon Major Barr neither.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:52 (three months ago) link

Bruh we be in constitutional crisis mode for a while

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 19:56 (three months ago) link

Taibbi and Greenwald's tweets p much all "im not owned! im not owned!" at this point

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 20:27 (three months ago) link

every day or so I have that stark realization that OMG this government is really deeply corrupt

akm, Thursday, 2 May 2019 00:43 (three months ago) link

Until I have proof that Greenwald wasn't involved in outing Reality Winner, he's in the shitbox for me.

nonsense upon stilts (Sanpaku), Thursday, 2 May 2019 01:28 (three months ago) link

Yeah this is fun seeing checks and balances crumbling before our eyes. And knowing that the damage this administration is doing could last a generation or until the end of the USA as we once knew it. Another check mark in the “don’t have children” column.

Still seeing effects of Reagan manifesting, can’t imagine what long term pain Trump will deliver us.

circa1916, Thursday, 2 May 2019 01:56 (three months ago) link

Yeah this is fun seeing checks and balances crumbling before our eyes. And knowing that the damage this administration is doing could last a generation or until the end of the USA as we once knew it. Another check mark in the “don’t have children” column.

Still seeing effects of Reagan manifesting, can’t imagine what long term pain Trump will deliver us.

If you’re still seeing the Gipper, kids were probably moot anyway, right?

lion in winter, Thursday, 2 May 2019 06:20 (three months ago) link

There was one thing that it appears they are trying to taken as a given, that there was heavy Russian interference in the 2016 election. Not sure to what extent GOP were admitting that previously. But that was the point of the Marsha Blackburn spiel wasn't it?
Apart from that bizarro take on who was behaving in an unprecedented way. That actually sounded like if taken outof context she might have had a point, sounded like it would apply to Barr's behaviour and it took me a moment to realise she was actually talking about the Dems. I was hoping it might be a sign of some GOP discontent with the current farcical state. But they do seem to be turning into a monolithic whole don't they?

Stevolende, Thursday, 2 May 2019 08:39 (three months ago) link

power is power

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 2 May 2019 08:48 (three months ago) link

It is astonishing in retrospect how quickly we went from “Iran-Contra is no big deal” to “the Clintons secretly murdered a bunch of their political opponents!” in the space of about five years back in the 1990s.

— David Walsh (@DavidAstinWalsh) May 2, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 May 2019 12:24 (three months ago) link

is it, though?

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:01 (three months ago) link

uhhh so Barr was subpoenaed didn't show up for his hearing

time to find out if the executive branch is going to have any oversight whatsoever

frogbs, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:03 (three months ago) link

Legislative, that is

I love a good constitutional crisis in the morning

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:10 (three months ago) link

Begin the impeachment process now

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:12 (three months ago) link

Jerry Nadler to reporters: "We will make one more good faith attempt to negotiate and to get the access to the report that we need, and then, if we don't get that, we will proceed to hold the attorney general in contempt and we'll go from there."

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) May 2, 2019

why do you keep giving these people chances. arrest him now

frogbs, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:25 (three months ago) link

Impeachment needed on at least 2 people.
Anybody else need a nice bit of impeachment?
Kavanagh? Do you get a better rate for multiples?

Stevolende, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:26 (three months ago) link

like for once can you spineless idiots just do what the majority of the country that voted you in wants you to do

frogbs, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:26 (three months ago) link

Democrats ain’t going to do a thing. Wake me up when a single WH staff member or agency executive is sitting in jail for contempt.

The law is a grand, mutual delusion. It requires at least 51% to believe in it for it to work. Republicans no longer believe in it, so Dems are only talking to themselves with this rule of law nonsense.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:28 (three months ago) link

Gilead!

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:35 (three months ago) link

Dems are just doing the same shit I do to my 4 year old

Last chance!!!
This is your last warning!!!
I'm gonna count to 5...
If you don't testify right this instant, I'm holding you in contempt!
I'm warning you!!!
bUddy yOuR on THin IcE

frogbs, Thursday, 2 May 2019 14:37 (three months ago) link

Sarah Sanders went out on the WH lawn this morning talking some serious shit abt Nadler, clearly provoking him.

I do think they will hold Barr in contempt, whether or not they have the stones to fine much less jail anybody is obv a different matter

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:15 (three months ago) link

Pelosi argued on Jimmy Kimmel that "there's a school of thought" that acquittal in the Senate after impeachment means you can't be tried criminally after leaving office ... what? https://t.co/QVBItiMez4 pic.twitter.com/h5mnrdHGE5

— Quinta Jurecic (@qjurecic) May 31, 2019

wut

Simon H., Friday, 31 May 2019 13:45 (two months ago) link

more like cathy garn-WHAAAAAAAT am i right

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:41 (two months ago) link

It’s not just Maddow. The Times has come to “prefer,” as sources put it, that its reporters steer clear of any cable-news shows that the masthead perceives as too partisan, and managers have lately been advising people not to go on what they see as highly opinionated programs. It's not clear how many shows fall under that umbrella in the eyes of Times brass, but two others that definitely do are Lawrence O’Donnell’s and Don Lemon’s, according to people familiar with management’s thinking. Hannity’s or Tucker Carlson’s shows would likewise make the cut, but it's not like Times reporters ever do those anyway. I’m told that over the past couple of months, executive editor Dean Baquet has felt that opinionated cable-news show are getting, well, even more opinionated. Baquet and other managers have become increasingly concerned that if a Times reporter were to go on one of these shows, his or her appearance could be perceived as being aligned with that show’s political leanings. “He thinks it’s a real issue,” one of my Times sources said. “Their view,” said another, “is that, intentionally or not, it affiliates the Times reporter with a bias.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/05/the-times-gives-maddow-the-cold-shoulder

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:53 (two months ago) link

Good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:58 (two months ago) link

Peter Baker is on Morning Joe all the time. Is this acceptable?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2019 14:59 (two months ago) link

at the moment, it is acceptable

It’s unclear whether they, too, would be encouraged to stay away from Lemon or Maddow or O’Donnell going forward, but the way cable-news contracts work is that contributors are obligated to appear on a network generally, not on this show or that. At the same time, several sources pointed out that political reporters generally gravitate toward shows like Morning Joe and Anderson Cooper 360 anyway. In CNN’s case, according to a network source, the only Times contributors who typically go on CNN Tonight with Don Lemon are the opinion columnists Charles Blow and Frank Bruni, who aren’t bound by the same strictures as Times newsroom staff.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 May 2019 15:01 (two months ago) link

I'm surprised the Times hasn't banned the use of adjectives yet.

John Denver – Led Zeppelin IV (Part II) (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 May 2019 15:11 (two months ago) link

oh my god this 5% tariff on Mexican goods until people stop crossing the border is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard

frogbs, Friday, 31 May 2019 15:16 (two months ago) link

he will back off that shit no doubt

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 31 May 2019 15:23 (two months ago) link

larry kudlow is low-key one of the dumbest people in the admin

Jeff the grown man (voodoo chili), Friday, 31 May 2019 15:28 (two months ago) link

I don't really think those NYT restrictions are unreasonable. Better for the op-ed writers to go on those shows.

Well if the Washington Examiner says it's so...

John Denver – Led Zeppelin IV (Part II) (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 May 2019 15:54 (two months ago) link

Trump will do what he did last night.

"Tariffs cancelled as Mexico did a good job last week of stopping migrants. But I was ready!"

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 May 2019 15:54 (two months ago) link

for the third time, a lone GOP house rep has heroically stopped a disaster relief bill

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/third-republican-blocks-attempt-pass-disaster-aid-house-n1012031

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 May 2019 16:16 (two months ago) link

"there's a school of thought" that acquittal in the Senate after impeachment means you can't be tried criminally after leaving office ... what?

Probably based on the idea that the 'double jeopardy' restriction would apply-- deep waters that have never been judicially explored, so it should not even be a consideration.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 16:31 (two months ago) link

But impeachment isn't technically a "criminal" trial, even though the Senate "convicts" you

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 May 2019 16:49 (two months ago) link

Grancy is grasping for excuses

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 17:14 (two months ago) link

Maybe if we quit asking her publicly about it every ten minutes

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 May 2019 17:15 (two months ago) link

if she's waiting for some event to happen before starting impeachment proceedings, what is that event?

The president is, of course, a crook. The Speaker of the House declined, once again, to take up Mueller’s implicit invitation to do something about it. The Speaker is still waiting, either for impeachment to somehow ripen further on its own, without the people in charge of impeachment doing anything about it, or for the 2020 election.

There is—still!—a school of thought that says Nancy Pelosi, whose record till now is unquestionably that of a tough and canny politician, has a real plan, and that she is patiently holding out for the right moment to act against Donald Trump. What that right moment may be is a mystery. It’s not the special counsel delivering his report and then declaring his share of the work to be completely finished, because that just happened. It’s not a Republican member of the House breaking ranks and announcing that his colleagues have a duty to impeach Trump, because that already happened, too.

https://hmmdaily.com/2019/05/29/nobody-knows-whats-going-to-happen/

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:35 (two months ago) link

Nancy's Right Moment is the new Obama Long Game

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:47 (two months ago) link

I think she's waiting for that pesky red line to stop inching forward at just the moment when Trump would've otherwise stepped over it.

John Denver – Led Zeppelin IV (Part II) (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:47 (two months ago) link

I just don't get what she's supposed to say about it *publicly* at this point.

Telegraph a low moving process to her opponents?

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:54 (two months ago) link

...she is patiently holding out for the right moment to act against Donald Trump. What that right moment may be is a mystery.

If Pelosi is waiting for Trump's poll numbers to drop as a result of his stonewalling the House, she's deluded. But it seems more likely that she is listening to her caucus and hearing too much hesitation, fear and doubt to feel able to charge ahead. I'd say the right moment would be when the timidity of her caucus transforms into some backbone and resolve.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:58 (two months ago) link

Oh okay, so we're fucked then.

John Denver – Led Zeppelin IV (Part II) (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 May 2019 18:58 (two months ago) link

But we knew that already.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:02 (two months ago) link

How marvelous that we end up at the same point every day!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:05 (two months ago) link

Ah, but we'll get a new thread and a fresh start tomorrow!

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:08 (two months ago) link

FTR, I don't think we are of necessity fucked, just that hanging our hopes on a sudden tsunami of moxie overtaking our democratic representatives is a bullet train to Fuckedville.

John Denver – Led Zeppelin IV (Part II) (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:09 (two months ago) link

House Dems are the New Mueller!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:26 (two months ago) link

Is this thread also being generated by a neural net

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:31 (two months ago) link

Isn't everything at this point

John Denver – Led Zeppelin IV (Part II) (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:34 (two months ago) link

Is this thread also being generated by a neural net

Of course it is. Except it's neural nets, plural. And they aren't hardware, but wetware.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:37 (two months ago) link

speak for yourself, meatbag

naked rollercoaster-riding world record holder (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:37 (two months ago) link

sorry, but whatever the bizarro version of the Turing Test would be, you fail it.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:42 (two months ago) link

How marvelous that we end up at the same point every day!

http://i64.tinypic.com/2qbr4gz.gif

difficult listening hour, Friday, 31 May 2019 19:45 (two months ago) link

Toilet

Got your butt drank (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 May 2019 19:52 (two months ago) link

lol

Arthur Laffer is getting the presidential Medal of Freedom, per a WH release.

— Jim Tankersley (@jimtankersley) May 31, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 31 May 2019 20:21 (two months ago) link

It occurred to me the other day that we're still litigating the 2016 election, which has technically been going on since late 2014. Let's see how 2020 goes down.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:32 (two months ago) link

are we? I only thought about it when HRC was inflicted on Hunter College grads yesterday.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 May 2019 20:36 (two months ago) link

Oh now this is funny.

JUST FILED: Transcript of Nov. 22, 2017, voicemail from Trump lawyer John Dowd to Michael Flynn's lawyer pic.twitter.com/GU4RjC1nxT

— David S. Joachim (@davidjoachim) May 31, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 May 2019 20:42 (two months ago) link

I honestly thought this was a joke at first.

John Dowd has issued a statement on his voicemail. He used Comic Sans. pic.twitter.com/eKdYoCJpAz

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) May 31, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 May 2019 22:21 (two months ago) link

good morning!

As we celebrate LGBT Pride Month and recognize the outstanding contributions LGBT people have made to our great Nation, let us also stand in solidarity with the many LGBT people who live in dozens of countries worldwide that punish, imprison, or even execute individuals....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 31, 2019

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2019 14:30 (two months ago) link

I started a June thread and hated the title immediately. Somebody else try.

The Bite Game with Jim Lamprey (WmC), Saturday, 1 June 2019 15:10 (two months ago) link

From today's White House propaganda email:

Trump Shakes ‘Every Single Hand’ of US Air Force Graduates While Praising Their ‘Noble Road of Service’ -Independent Journal Review
“The president showered the U.S. Air Force Academy’s graduating class with praise and encouragement as they are ‘ready to fly, fight, and win,’” Madison Summers reports. “During the ceremony, Trump announced that he would shake ‘every single hand’ of the nearly [1,000] graduates as they walk across the stage.”

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 1 June 2019 15:14 (two months ago) link

our big boy president shaked hands with all of thems peoples, whooza good president yes he is

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 1 June 2019 15:14 (two months ago) link

in my clearer moments, i find the key to doing new things is to just not care if it's bad

no, i didn't know that the June 2019 US Politics threads was nasty

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 1 June 2019 15:49 (two months ago) link

Let us hope he didn't develop hand spurs partway through

Velcromancer (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 1 June 2019 20:41 (two months ago) link

Mods, close thread...?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 June 2019 21:01 (two months ago) link


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