the Disney-Fox merger and film/TV production/exhibition hegemony in general

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let's keep the bitching in here and out of the MCU threads. There will be plenty of bigger considerations down the line, but imo this list of cancelled (and not cancelled) projects is quite telling

According to THR, Horn has already dropped the Tom Hanks period drama News of the World from Fox's production slate, along with the Angie Thomas novel adaptation On the Come Up and Mouse Guard. Woody Harrelson's mental hospital dramedy Fruit Loops is similarly expected to be cancelled in the near future, especially since it was one of the films being developed by Fox 2000 prior to its closure. THR's sources also say the decision to drop On the Come Up was the result of The Hate U Give - another film adaptation of Thomas' work - losing Fox $30 to 40 million at last year's box office, despite being all but universally praised by critics.

Among the developing Fox movies that Disney's expected to keep are Matthew Vaughn's prequel Kingsman: The Great Game, the R.L. Stine Fear Street adaptation, Kenneth Branagh's Death on the Nile (a sequel to his Murder on the Orient Express adaptation), and Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake. The latter, amusingly enough, has nevertheless caused some ire over plans to show characters smoking in the film (something that's taboo in Disney movies these days). The Ryan Reynolds-led video game comedy Free Guy is also staying put for the time being, and there's a good chance that The Ballad of Richard Jewell - a docudrama about the security guard that foiled the 1996 Atlanta Olympics bombing attempt - will land a green-light at Fox, with Clint Eastwood potentially directing.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/multiple-fox-films-getting-axed-at-disney-1204252

this is also a fine place to complain about the ever-widening constellation of streaming services and their shrinking collective library

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 20:15 (two years ago) link

I think your last point really gets at something that is incredibly infuriating everyone. So many streaming services. I can only predict that as they become more and more proprietary and more and more subscriptions are required to get our movies/sports/TV, they will eventually start offering them as bundles. Just like cable. But inventively more expensive. And then we'll be back where we started but hey, more money for the two or three companies that survive!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 April 2019 20:18 (two years ago) link

it’s like they WANT us to pirate stuff tbh

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 20:21 (two years ago) link

Woody Harrelson's mental hospital dramedy Fruit Loops is similarly expected to be cancelled in the near future


this maybe doesn’t seem like a huge loss for cinema tbf

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 20:22 (two years ago) link

I can't find any pieces yet on what this merger will mean for the accessibility of the 20th Century Fox film roster down the line, but I can find about 50 pieces on what this means for the X-Men, which also tells you a lot.

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 20:24 (two years ago) link

I subscribe to a bunch of services. But sometimes I'll have something in my queue and when I finally get around to watching it, it's suddenly gone, poof. So I download it. And occasionally said something comes back sometime before I watch whatever I downloaded, but it's so hard to keep up with the hundreds of things queued up and coming and going across several services that there really was no way of me knowing.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 April 2019 20:24 (two years ago) link

idk, Netflix used to have a sick library of movies on DVD and Blu Ray but everyone would rather stream garbage. Turner tried to make Filmstruck work but, again, everyone would rather stream garbage.

Starting to get real hard to blame the companies for simply responding to the market

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 20:35 (two years ago) link

and here’s our first scorching hot take of the thread, i’m gonna give it 8/10, would have been a 9 if it had mentioned sheeple

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 20:37 (two years ago) link

it's what happened. people prized the convenience of streaming over quality/choices of DVD and here we are.

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 20:40 (two years ago) link

yes, we the people brought this upon ourselves, our kindly corporate friends had no choice but to punish us thusly

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 20:49 (two years ago) link

The Ballad of Richard Jewell - a docudrama about the security guard that foiled the 1996 Atlanta Olympics bombing attempt - will land a green-light at Fox, with Clint Eastwood potentially directing

This sounds almost as bad as the Woody Harrelson thing.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 26 April 2019 20:55 (two years ago) link

wow, an extra $10 a month so bizarro gazzara can watch Ant-Man, what a punishment!

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 20:57 (two years ago) link

the Cult of Eastwood continues to perplex me tbh

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 20:59 (two years ago) link

Like, yeah, I hate monopolies too, but I don’t see how Netflix/Apple/Spotify funneling everything through three tech companies is GOOD, but Disney breaking up that model is BAD

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 21:00 (two years ago) link

Isn’t this thread about how both are bad

milkshake chuk (wins), Friday, 26 April 2019 21:01 (two years ago) link

well, yeah

Campaign For Dean Gaffney To Be The New James Bond (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 April 2019 21:06 (two years ago) link

ppl can feel free to defend either development if they feel like it!

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 23:03 (two years ago) link

If Disney is gonna keep it real and post like all 57 Walt Disney Animation Studios (minus Song of the South, obv) and the 20 Pixar joints, and the Simpsons run in the correct aspect ratio and not do selective releases from the "vault" ... I ... wouldn't be mad at any of that?

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 26 April 2019 23:33 (two years ago) link

they can re-up Song of the South but only if they replace the audio with Bob Iger saying "you are a bad person" over and over

Simon H., Friday, 26 April 2019 23:44 (two years ago) link

I can't find any pieces yet on what this merger will mean for the accessibility of the 20th Century Fox film roster down the line

maybe because you don't need to look down the line? Disney already cancelled nearly all bookings of 20th films last week. basically if somewhere already has a print they're allowed to pay to show it, but you can't screen anything from the catalogue otherwise

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 08:05 (two years ago) link

There seems to be some dispute over whether that's a permanent issue or a temporary legal hiccup.

Simon H., Saturday, 27 April 2019 08:19 (two years ago) link

Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:03 (two years ago) link

Steven Spielberg’s BFG remake
Steven Spielberg’s Tintin remake
Steven Spielberg’s War Horse remake
Steven Spielberg’s War Of The Worlds remake
Steven Spielberg’s Peter Pan remake

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 09:53 (two years ago) link

Hook is a sequel not a remake

milkshake chuk (wins), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:00 (two years ago) link

it’s a remake of the sequel to Peter Pan, except with the plot of Peter Pan

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:04 (two years ago) link

i don't consider adapted screenplays to be remakes but i get your point.

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:05 (two years ago) link

the first West Side Story was an adapted screenplay too! I only named ones that had also previously been adapted into films, most of his shit is based on books, whether fiction or non-fiction

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:11 (two years ago) link

also previously been adapted into films, other media

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:13 (two years ago) link

(Peter Pan was adapted into a book and several films, War Horse was a remake of the stage adaptation AIUI, all the Tintins in the Spielberg movie had been TV cartoons twice and one had been a feature, War Of The Worlds has been eleventy-billion movies and plays and radio shows and shadow puppet performances, BFG had been a comic strip and a play and the 1989 Cosgrove Hall joint with David Jason)

blokes you can't rust (sic), Saturday, 27 April 2019 10:23 (two years ago) link

it's what happened. people prized the convenience of streaming over quality/choices of DVD and here we are.

― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, April 26, 2019 4:40 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm. When I tell friends I still get Netflix DVDs through the mail they react with astonishment, as if I told them I've decided to give up electricity. This weekend somebody saw a red envelope on my coffee table, pointed to it and literally said "Oh my god, have you been saving that all this time as a memento?!" All of these same friends complain about there not being enough things on streaming that they like, and say things like "I watched 3 seasons of (show x) this week, it was just meh." Reminds me of the Onion op-ed from years ago along the lines of "Can you believe the shit they force me to watch on television?"

One Eye Open, Monday, 29 April 2019 15:26 (two years ago) link

kind of off-topic, but sometimes I'll start on a Netflix series and realize quickly that it's diverting but not actually good; I find at this point the most time-effective approach is to look up what happens on Wikipedia or a set of recaps, then move onto something else.

Simon H., Monday, 29 April 2019 15:35 (two years ago) link

"Oh my god, have you been saving that all this time as a memento?!"

lol

difficult listening hour, Monday, 29 April 2019 15:37 (two years ago) link

One of the absolute best things about moving to the Los Angeles area is there's still independent video stores out here

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 April 2019 16:56 (two years ago) link

Toronto still has a couple, shockingly.

Simon H., Monday, 29 April 2019 16:56 (two years ago) link

hosted the crew of ghost-hunting show the other day while they exploited local culture for the entertainment of people whose crippling brain damage has left them with nothing better to watch and me and the sound guy in the dead ringers shirt reminisced about portland's MOVIE MADNESS-- still there!

difficult listening hour, Monday, 29 April 2019 17:21 (two years ago) link

Gotta say, for a time when streaming media is in the ascendant, boutique physical media companies are totally killing it. Like if you're inclined to blame Netflix et al for snuffing out the home video market, you're neither paying attention nor supporting the current embarrassment of blu-ray riches with your dollar votes.

xpost -- wait hold on, that's quite a setup.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 01:29 (two years ago) link

i didn't know which to envy more: their remote video monitor (wireless splitscreen from multiple cameras!) or their veil-piercing communications apparatus. anyway, turns out my theater has night marchers

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 02:11 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5-n8e3XsAEIVpd.jpg

Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:55 (two years ago) link

bully

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 16:57 (two years ago) link

Untitled boot stamping on a human face forever

milkshake chuk (wins), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:05 (two years ago) link

wow, so every disney is getting a live action remake huh
Major headline for me is that Nimona is gonna be a big big deal and that Noelle Stevenson is hella rich

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:08 (two years ago) link

Maybe it's just me but feels like they weren't really trying when they settled on these movie titles.

Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:16 (two years ago) link

Man all four people who give any fucks about Avatar have gotta be STOKED.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:18 (two years ago) link

lmao that Cameron is apparently shooting the 4 Avatar sequels (5 is penned in for 2027) concurrently, meaning even if the first one underperforms they'll still have 3 left to promote

Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:19 (two years ago) link

I'm a little surprised that Disney hasn't pulled back on the reins with that impending disaster.

Ce Ce Penistongs (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:24 (two years ago) link

TBF, both titanic and avatar were hailed as an impending disaster and then become the biggest things in the history of movies so it's tough to bet against him until he loses
i also think he will lose this time btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:43 (two years ago) link

I reeeeeeeeally need to be convinced that Avatar 2-4 will be a disaster beyond Very Online people saying variations of "no one remembers this"

Disney World built a whole themed area for it, it's the second biggest-selling Blu Ray of all time after FROZEN and I haven't seen any evidence that America won't gladly slurp down every PG-13 fan service sequel save, like, "Wow, Solo only made 393 million dollars"

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:53 (two years ago) link

Also, it's been so long, I can see them re-releasing Avatar 1 in theaters

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:54 (two years ago) link

There's a whole Cirque du Soliel touring act about Avatar

dragged across concrète (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 17:56 (two years ago) link

winter tentpole, surely

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 9 January 2020 13:52 (one year ago) link

Jokes bruv, suggesting that even Favreau's CV at the time didn't give him a lot of sway in an argument about what might or might not make for a blockbuster superhero film.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 January 2020 13:55 (one year ago) link

I'm looking forward to these AI-generated movies, though, tbh. Harry PotterPants & the Furious 97: John Wick? starring Brad Pitt-Morgan and Emma StoneStone should be amazing.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:01 (one year ago) link

Hanging with Mr Cooper...in Space!

papa stank (Neanderthal), Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:25 (one year ago) link

William Fox nor any of his heirs haven’t had any control of the company since 1930. Fox died penniless in 1952. https://t.co/DFMZr59z22

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) January 17, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 January 2020 04:32 (one year ago) link

Twentieth Century Pictures of 1933, merged with Fox Studios in 1935 to form 20th Century-Fox (the hyphen was dropped a half century later in 1985 under Australian Rupert Murdoch). For many years, 20th Century Fox claimed to have been founded in 1915. For instance, it marked 1945 as its 30th anniversary. However, in recent years it has now claimed the 1935 merger as its founding date.

lol Zanuck finally fully erases Fox thanks to Iger

buzza, Monday, 20 January 2020 04:56 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

there was obviously some impressive vfx work done in this film but there's something so revealing about the the MCU that they would rather do cg instead of make-up or costuming because they don't want to be locked into having to make real creative choices on set lol pic.twitter.com/di4GRFSpRT

— josh lewis (@thejoshl) February 9, 2020

reply:

Fun fact: a very high % of the people on a film set are in unions, and basically no one in a VFX house is. A cynic might go so far to say the $22 billion annual revenue corporation wants to wrap production as quickly as possible so they can get the labor into the post sweatshops https://t.co/wb00aioWMq

— an cory (@corypalmer) February 10, 2020

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 10 February 2020 04:25 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

via jaymc:

The US domestic box office total for the week of Mar 20-26 was $5,179. The same week in 2019 was $204,193,406.

$5,155 of that was home rentals of an indie shot in Klamath Falls, Oregon, whereby renters can direct $3.25 of their "ticket price" to an independent cinema in a handful of states.

The other $24 was for Lost In America (the new homeless documentary, not the Albert Brooks film).

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Thursday, 2 April 2020 00:07 (one year ago) link

Kino Lorber is doing something in that vein, VOD of new release indies and foreign films where profits are split with local theaters.

Nhex, Thursday, 2 April 2020 00:23 (one year ago) link

Yeah, Kino did a push for Bacarau last week, and this volunteer-run arthouse in Seattle has switched all possible existing bookings to home rental. I'm guessing that the "Phoenix Oregon" distributor was just canny enough about setting up reporting their takings.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Thursday, 2 April 2020 03:39 (one year ago) link

Are you putting together the final pieces to prove that Disney Did Coronavirus, sic?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 2 April 2020 09:10 (one year ago) link

Disney+ didn't want butts on their platform so they edited Splash with digital fur technology pic.twitter.com/df8XE0G9om

— Allison Pregler 📼 (@AllisonPregler) April 13, 2020

donald failson (sic), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 08:27 (one year ago) link

The US domestic box office total for the week of Mar 20-26 was $5,179. The same week in 2019 was $204,193,406

The entire box office last week was $1,710 for Swallow, all at one Florida drive-in.

This week they're showing it in a double feature with Marcel Marceau Vs The Nazis biopic Resistance on one screen, and Trolls World Tour b2b with ET on another, so there could be a top 3 movies reported next week.

donald failson (sic), Monday, 20 April 2020 21:46 (one year ago) link

An Australian film was #1 for the weekend's US box office!

Jed Kurzel's Peter Carey adaptation The True History Of The Kelly Gang took $9,839 in 5 theatres.

donald failson (sic), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 10:59 (one year ago) link

Supposedly it's out on streaming services, but I can't find it in Canada.

wasdnous (abanana), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 13:39 (one year ago) link

this should work afaict

donald failson (sic), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:48 (one year ago) link

US only

wasdnous (abanana), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:09 (one year ago) link

ah, I vpn'd to look but 🤷

donald failson (sic), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:58 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

It took “Parasite” *nineteen weeks* to get onto 2000 screens. Because it was able to build word of mouth through the awards season.

This is devastating news for mid-size and indie studios.

— Kevin Jagernauth (@jag24fps) July 28, 2020

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:01 (nine months ago) link

^ AMC and Universal have signed a deal reducing the theatrical window to 17 days, in exchange for AMC getting a cut of the VOC revenue.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:05 (nine months ago) link

*VOD

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 23:07 (nine months ago) link

jesus christ, no

― mh, Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:21 AM (eight months ago)
christ

― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:57 AM (eight months ago)

five-baggers for everyone

― imago, Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:59 AM (eight months ago)

Bob Iger's erection could cut steel today

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:18 AM (eight months ago)

"Given this changing marketplace, the Court finds that it is unlikely that the remaining Defendants would collude to once again limit their film distribution to a select group of theaters in the absence of the Decrees and, finds, therefore, that termination is in the public interest."

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 7 August 2020 20:12 (nine months ago) link

:/

the quar on drugs (Simon H.), Friday, 7 August 2020 20:19 (nine months ago) link

damn, man

Doctor Casino, Friday, 7 August 2020 20:29 (nine months ago) link

wow a little naive maybe??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 August 2020 21:11 (nine months ago) link

Or, y'know, completely cognizant of the havoc this will wreak.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2020 21:17 (nine months ago) link

'We completely trust The Big Bad Wolf to leave this huge, glistening, scrumptious turkey roast on the counter right where it is'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 7 August 2020 22:17 (nine months ago) link

Sure would love to see that judge's stock portfolio.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Friday, 7 August 2020 23:56 (nine months ago) link

Also, Disney phasing out physical media, significantly on the format that favours 20th Century Fox catalogue restorations

Steppin' RZA (sic), Sunday, 9 August 2020 06:18 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

when Disney bought Lucasfilm, as contract-holder they stopped paying Alan Dean Foster his royalties on the still-in-print original 1970s Star Wars novels (one ghosted adaptation, one pre-Empire sequel). when they bought Fox, they similarly stopped paying his royalties on the adaptations of Alien, Aliens and Alien³.

Having already had the US copyright law rewritten to suit them several times, they are now attempting to break it through precedent for all prose publishing.

They will not respond to Foster's lawyers, to his agents, or to his professional not-a-union org, and have demanded that he sign an NDA before they will respond to him: http://www.sfwa.org/disney-must-pay/

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:00 (five months ago) link

what??? that is... completely fucked up!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 November 2020 08:08 (five months ago) link

It is. I was just reading that last night. Apparently their argument is that when they bought Fox, they bought the assets but NOT the liabilities. Insane.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:36 (five months ago) link

Crooked as hell. Hopefully they do the right thing

Nhex, Thursday, 19 November 2020 15:44 (five months ago) link

Tracer wait until you hear about the guy who coincidentally started getting a million-dollar annual stipend from a future division of Disney, after he started going to court to testify that authors don't deserve royalties, because if they'd signed non-existent contracts decades before, the contracts probably would have said they had no rights

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Thursday, 19 November 2020 21:13 (five months ago) link

Does the world need to fall apart completely for Disney to die?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 19 November 2020 22:04 (five months ago) link

it’s a small world, after all

mh, Thursday, 19 November 2020 22:05 (five months ago) link

Apparently their argument is that when they bought Fox, they bought the assets but NOT the liabilities. Insane.

This is insane enough that, no matter how many high-paid lawyers Disney can throw at this suit, the judge who adjudicates Foster's case needs to award him some sky-high punitive damages. Something so big that Disney stock takes a hit.

The Solace of Fortitude (Aimless), Friday, 20 November 2020 00:34 (five months ago) link

They presumably think that the chance of setting legal precedent is worth the risk. And if you're soullessly evil, this is true!

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Friday, 20 November 2020 01:42 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Some discussion over on the "what to watch on streaming services" thread about AT&T, already slashing all their entertainment divisions (and various other ones) in order to make up losses on the botched launch of HBO Max, going day-and-date for all 2021 theatrical releases.

In this Daily Beast interview with Steven Soderbergh, he has several thoughts about this being a moderate move (NB: he has an exclusive deal with HBO Max already):

Is this the beginning of the end for theaters?

No. Not at all. It’s just a reaction to an economic reality that I think everybody is going to have to acknowledge pretty soon, which is that even with a vaccine, the theatrical movie business won’t be robust enough in 2021 to justify the amount of P&A you need to spend to put a movie into wide release. There’s no scenario in which a theater that is 50 percent full, or at least can’t be made 100 percent full, is a viable paradigm to put out a movie in. But that will change. We will reach a point where anybody who wants to go to a movie will feel safe going to a movie.

I think somebody sat down and did a very clear-eyed analysis of what COVID is going to do in the next year, even with a potential vaccine, and said, I don’t see this as being workable in 2021. Because let’s be clear: there is no bonanza in the entertainment industry that is the equivalent of a movie that grosses a billion dollars or more theatrically. That is the holy grail. So the theatrical business is not going away. There are too many companies that have invested too much money in the prospect of putting out a movie that blows up in theaters—there’s nothing like it. It’s all going to come back. But I think Warners is saying: not as soon as you think.

Are you worried that once the genie is out of the bottle, it’ll be difficult to put it back in?

No. I think it’ll finally push the studios and NATO (National Association of Theater Owners) to have some practical and realistic conversations about windowing. Because there needs to be more fluidity. There’s not going to be one template that fits every movie. Every movie is different. You need the flexibility. If you’re in a bad situation, and you’ve got a movie that you opened wide, and you know Friday at 3 p.m. it’s not working, you need to be able to get it on a platform as soon as possible. You spent so much money trying to make this work, and if it didn’t, you should be able to do whatever you want to do. Theaters are going to be pushing you out anyway because you bombed. They’re looking for the next thing that’s going to work. I just think we live in a technological world that allows for fluidity that we’re just not seeing right now. We’re still seeing this broad template that’s supposed to work for everything, and that’s not how it’s going to get solved.

Will theaters wind up being only the domain of big-budget spectaculars?

I think there are a lot of factors to consider when wondering if that’s the way things are going to go. One variable that hasn’t really been scaled up is that, now that we live in an all-digital world, all of these big theater chains have the ability to turn themselves into repertory cinemas in which they screen films from any period of the last 120 years for audiences who’ve never seen them in a theater. There are all these movies from the ‘70s, ‘80s, ‘90s, and early aughts that nobody has seen in a theater. Big hits, great movies. And I’m waiting for somebody to go, OK, we’re going to have a program where everybody knows that on these certain nights, or on the weekend, you put them out. When I was growing up, the repertory cinema had the calendar for the fall, and you would know, oh, they’re going to show Deliverance, they’re going to show this. There are options here to get people back into the habit of going to see movies, and giving them something they’ve haven’t seen before, that aren’t being explored at any sizeable scale. So that’s one thing.

The other thing is, every time we think that it’s just going to be tentpoles and blockbusters—and art-house movies on the other end—something shows up in the middle and works. Downton Abbey made a lot of money. That movie was coming out when we were in discussions with Warners about Let Them All Talk, and I pointed to that as an example of what I consider to be our audience. That’s our demographic; that’s the audience I want. And look, they showed up for that.

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 6 December 2020 01:44 (five months ago) link

I’d love for his multiplex repertory idea to take off but that feels like something that already would have. Fathom Events do not get good reviews locally for picture quality.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Sunday, 6 December 2020 01:46 (five months ago) link

it's not totally off-base. My local (non-AMC, non-Regal) chains already do one or two rep screenings a month. i do think it just hasn't fully been done right, aside from smaller examples like Alamo

Nhex, Sunday, 6 December 2020 01:55 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

More writers coming out and forming a task force to try to get Disney to pay the royalties they're ignoring.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/28/disneymustpay-authors-form-task-force-missing-payments-star-wars-alien-buffy

This is such nickel and dime bullshit, all the book and comic royalties they could possibly owe would be a rounding error on one page of their books.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 29 April 2021 01:40 (one week ago) link

This situation is no longer hypothetical. Fox had licensed the comics rights to Buffy the Vampire Slayer to Dark Horse. After Disney purchased Fox, they withdrew those rights from Dark Horse and granted them to Boom! Comics. When one Buffy author contacted Boom! about missing royalties they were told that “royalties don’t transfer.”

Disney is one of the owners of Boom! Comics.

Disney is terrible for all this. I was a little confused how about this worked, but then I realized that Boom! is currently reprinting the the old Dark Horse-published Buffy comics in new Legacy collections - it's not just the license for new books.

Nhex, Thursday, 29 April 2021 03:29 (one week ago) link

Surely this is... illegal behaviour?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 April 2021 09:27 (one week ago) link

....from Disney?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 29 April 2021 09:56 (one week ago) link

Not long ago, in one of the John Carpenter threads, sic gave an overview of how fucked-up Boom is as a comics publisher.

Big Trouble is a film that revels in physicality, I can see light 2D-styled drawing not connecting with someone trying to evoke the film in their reading (the text on that page said Eric Powell, but the image clearly wasn't Powell).

fyi Boom is one of the most outrageously exploitative publishers in the field, reading their output from your municipal library is a better option if you have it.

― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Friday, March 5, 2021 7:26 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's a bummer - I've really been enjoying Something is Killing the Children. How outrageously exploitative are they?

― peace, man, Monday, March 8, 2021 12:04 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

They pay $35 a page for scripts, $100 a page for writing & drawing. Make t-shirts and merch of artists' work without compensation. Underpay invoices, pay months late, sometimes ghost artists altogether. Recruitment model is largely to give young artists their first jobs so it's easier to rip them off. "Some shady stuff in their contracts, and sometimes tries to secretly annul contracts by slipping extra clauses into the fine print of their payment vouchers," per one former worker.

(I assume Tynion is treated better, likewise John Allison - but I have also assumed that Allison stopped drawing Giant Days himself when it went to Boom bcz their rates weren't worth it.)

― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, March 8, 2021 2:24 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

peace, man, Thursday, 29 April 2021 11:50 (one week ago) link

Oh wait, you just posted here in the hour that I've had this thread open. lol.

peace, man, Thursday, 29 April 2021 11:51 (one week ago) link

Ouch. I had no idea they were so bad (or that they were even owned by Disney, before this article) - a shame because I like a lot of their output.

Nhex, Thursday, 29 April 2021 13:40 (one week ago) link

Disney doesn’t own them in whole: 20th Century Fox bought a piece of them in 2017, and Disney inherited that in 2019.

Amusingly enough, Boom! had the licence for Disney comics c. 2009-2010, but it was pulled after repeated contract violations, including sending stories to print without getting them approved by Disney.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 29 April 2021 16:37 (one week ago) link


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