I dare you to anticipate Joaquin Phoenix in Todd Phillips's JOKER (now with something that may or may not be a SPOILER)

I'll be really curious, once all the reviews show up, how the average, well, averages out.

did any of them say anything about the movie as opposed to whether they agreed with whatever theyre disagreeing is the point of the movie

Critics man, just like those chad finance bros kicking the shit of the poor Joker when he is down on his knees. Can't a film have his dignity.

By some corners you mean the Jordan Peterson subreddit? Yeah I think so too.

otm

how the average, well, averages out.

given that the average American movie critic is a tasteless shithead

from the Uhlich review that Morbs posted:

Fleck is a skeleton-thin jester who works the sidewalks and hospital wards while dreaming of stand-up stardom, and he gets viciously beat up by a group of delinquents in the film’s first scene. As he lays bleeding in a scum-soaked alley, the prop flower on his lapel drips out a pathetic, pissy stream of water. It would be funny if the direction and framing wasn’t so arrogantly humorless.

“This is serious,” Phillips seems to be saying, as if he’s prosaically altered the anarchic mantra (“Why so serious?!?”) of Heath Ledger’s Joker in Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight. Fleck, at one of his many low points, does something similar to the “Don’t Forget to Laugh” sign in his workplace, blacking out “Forget to” with a marker so that it now reads “Don’t Laugh.” His action sums up Joker itself, which is made almost entirely out of the preexisting parts of other films, the connections reworked just enough to avoid outright plagiarism, and the results then slathered in a patina of paranoiac solemnity.

ya but is it any good I'm just trying to find that out

i get that many people who get paid to write about what they think movies ought to have done or meant seem to have written snippets here and there about what they object to in the message or politics of this effort

but is it any good is it a good movie

just want it sorted yknow

i hear yiz all that its awful that it was made, like.

but i mean some of you didnt even love watchmen ffs

1. Nobody’s seen it
2. No

i'm holding out for Todd Phillips's's's Story of the Eye

ty wins

Hopefully it will run in a theater at some point that is not too far out of the way for one of us to see and report back.

I got access to the script via a hub thing and yeah fuck ever seeing this

Waiting for the surprise Beyonce soundtrack drop.

Hub thing, looking for big fun

I would have much less of a problem if Phoenix's "Joker" was a copycat who used the actual Joker as a conduit for his psychosis.

The first hour and a half depict a sullen and resentful comedian becoming increasingly obsessed with the real Joker. He learns everything he can, starts a youtube channel, starts to mimic his voice and mannerisms, has his channel demonetized, then goes on stage and delivers a Louis CK set as the Joker. Instead of Robert De Niro as Murray Franklin, it's Joe Rogan as Joe Rogan. After appearing on Joe Rogan our comedian decides that he is the Joker and that he's going to turn everyone in Gotham City into little Jokers. Then in the last ten minutes, while out clowning around he encounters the real Joker who kills him and walks away laughing. THE END. Think Single White Female but with more Jokers and no women.

might want to spoiler that eh

That is unironically a much-better sounding synopsis than the actual movie

A loser that posts to 4chan and lives with a random old lady he calls mother puts on makeup and starts stabbing people.

Runs for office one year later

have we been the victims of a crul joaq

lol

My brain just conjured an image of Phoenix in full I'm Still Here mode taking a page from Cesar Romero and slathering his Joker makeup on over a massive beard and heck maybe just right atop that pair of shades as well and now I'm having a very difficult time stifling my laughter rn.

might want to spoiler that eh

― theRZA the JZA and the NDB (darraghmac), 12. september 2019 16:19 (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah, but it's already finished :(

first half hour, joaquin phoenix is john ochre, a frustrated borderline case trying to get a career off the ground as a makeup artist

as he suffers rejection after rejection at his department store stand, he gradually applies more and more greasepaint to stand out more from the other sellers (highlight of this act, a melancholy "my time of day" type musical number as he waltzes from one area of the store to the next after closing time with a mannequin who will be heavily featured in planned sequels)

second hour, heavily improvised joaquin discussion piece about idk patch-testing, the importance of a proper cleansing routine and moisturiser with the correct spf for you, nightmarish late-night tv shop footage aesthetic as the desperation pf our hero-anti-hero grows, act to close with a violent sequence of our hero horribly mauled in black friday crowds of dorises and mabels

third act is a metamorphosis reveal, our jochre, scarred inside and out by LATE CAPITALISM nurses a deep hatred of otherwsise nice old ladies who ignore queueing etiquette and hatches plans to blow up a bingo hall

Joaquin Phoenix as the failed mime who bungles his chance to perform a 75 hour-long performance piece, The Joker, at PS1. As the movie ends he's sitting on a rock in Central Park with his hand in his pants swigging from a paper bag while the theme from Arthur plays in the background.

an empty paper bag, that drifts away as we follow it into the night sky......until it takes the shape of

a joke

can't wait for the climactic scene where Phoenix stares into the camera and says "Joker? I hardly even know 'er! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

can't wait for the other climactic scene when we finally discover what "the pompatus of love" means

its a wiener iirc

There's an embargo in effect, but I hear this is about a guy that snaps and goes on a spree of knocking on doors then running away.

disgusting

can't wait for the climactic scene where Phoenix stares into the camera and says "Joker? I hardly even know 'er! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

― brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 12 September 2019 15:00 (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk i just can't see phoenix having the chops for this tbh

This is two hours on the nose which is too bad, if it were longer I would’ve had a reason to decide not to see it after all

Our hero (played by Joaquin Phoenix) is an obscure failed comedian who now hosts a podcast interviewing other comedians. As his resentment about his career grows, he becomes obsessed with getting cast in a rumored upcoming Joker film being made by Todd Phillips. When he discovers that famous Hollywood actor Joaquin Phoenix has gotten the role instead of him, he lures Joaquin (played by Marc Maron) to his home under the pretense of doing a podcast interview and murders him. Our hero shows up to the Joker film set on the first day of shooting in full costume and makeup as Joaquin-as-the-Joker, convinces everyone that he is Joaquin 'getting really Method' and makes the film, fooling everyone and delivering a genius performance that takes film acting to new heights of artistry. The film gets finished, goes to Venice and wins the Golden Lion. When our hero is onstage with Todd Phillips accepting the award, GG Allin and a crew of frat guys burst into the hall and kill everyone with flamethrowers.

Mentored by a circus vet (Wallace Shawn)...

My Dinner With The Joker — "But, Wally, don't you see that comfort can be dangerous? I mean, you like to be comfortable and I like to be comfortable too, but comfort can lull you into a dangerous tranquility!"

yes OEO, yes

Wait wait wait, can anyone confirm that when Joaquin is beaten in this movie he is beaten with a BAT? Because do u see? The seeds of animosity, they are planted.

Is Jason Bateman in this? Because ...

His girlfriend Laura is beaten with a bat. Minutes later he sees a picture of her and Christopher Cross's "Think of Laura" plays

Then everyone in town is killed

Showdown in the Louisville Slugger museum.

end credits: "Killing in the Name of" over a burning american flag

citizen kane but with bats intead of newspapers and jokes instead of silent resentments

Removing bookmark from this thread until I see this masterpiece

You mean Batsterpiece

flappy bird leaves thread

flappy bat appears moments later, posts about bats, leaves with dramatic flourish

flappy bird enters thread all oh whattidi miss guys

lol this is getting a 70mm release

I'm sure Joker fanboys are all gonna 70mm release in their seats