BEST VEGAN PROTEIN SOURCE

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Legumes (includes pulses, soya, etc.) 24
Nuts/seeds (includes quinoa) 11
Mushrooms 7
Something else, u filthy vegetarian casual 5


LEOPLOD BLOOMPS (Leee), Friday, 29 March 2019 19:59 (one year ago) link

Seitan

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 20:02 (one year ago) link

oats

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:04 (one year ago) link

or beans

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:04 (one year ago) link

beaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaans

gbx, Friday, 29 March 2019 20:10 (one year ago) link

This is pertinent to my current interests, I’ve been pursuing a mostly vegetarian diet lately and protein seems to be the thing I’m finding trickiest to get enough of.

michaellambert, Friday, 29 March 2019 20:12 (one year ago) link

Unlike other pulses, lentils are great because you don't need to soak them overnight. Cooking them for 20+ minutes is usually enough to soften them up.

OTOH mushrooms: you have to put in a lot of effort to overcook them, and I've grown to enjoy their taste.

I only go for nuts/seeds when I want extra texture/crunch.

LEOPLOD BLOOMPS (Leee), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:19 (one year ago) link

Since I got a nutribullet recently, I've been making coffee, banana, chocolate protein powder shakes. SOOOOooooo good.

Yerac, Friday, 29 March 2019 20:20 (one year ago) link

My understanding is it's important to combine (legumes and whole grains for instance) or at least have a variety of protein sources over the course of a day. Vegan health broadcast ends.

*there's (Noel Emits), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:20 (one year ago) link

It's good that you enjoy the taste of mushrooms because you will have to eat a lot of them to get much protein

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 20:31 (one year ago) link

We made a dish with rye berries last night and it was amazing (sure, it involved non-vegan butter and cheese, but they're so fun to chew).

It also involved my favorite fake meat, the legendary Tofurky Italian Sausage.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 29 March 2019 20:51 (one year ago) link

i like tofurkey italian sausage 10xs more than I like real italian sausage.

Yerac, Friday, 29 March 2019 21:08 (one year ago) link

yeah i love those things. used to work in a actual sausage joint, which is where i became nuts for sauerkraut-y type things, and big sausage sandos with sauteed peppers and onions.

guess i'll happily vote pulses - chickpeas, lentils, tofu and tempeh are all so essential to me overall. but god i loves seitan, too

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 29 March 2019 22:00 (one year ago) link

i really like tempeh. don't make it very often, and when i do it's usually just the same thing (tempeh balls with marinara sauce), but it's a good one.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 March 2019 22:01 (one year ago) link

My spouse, reformed vegan, never wants to get tempeh or seitan. Maybe it reminds him too much of college or his 20s. But he does love it when my mom cooks him up a ton of crazy ass tofu skins and weird seitan chunks.

Yerac, Friday, 29 March 2019 22:08 (one year ago) link

I have to taste everything before he eats it though because I told him a story of how she would make vinegared tripe and tell me it was tofu. I didn't realize it until I had knowingly had tripe in my 30s and was like "goddamnit, mom."

Yerac, Friday, 29 March 2019 22:10 (one year ago) link

I guess tofu goes in the beans category, but I love tofu in all its many forms. I especially like the tofu I make at home and the left over soyabean meal that can be out in potato salad or made into patties.

Other legumes are good too.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 29 March 2019 22:13 (one year ago) link

you are correct, tempeh totally balls with marinara sauce

mick signals, Friday, 29 March 2019 22:19 (one year ago) link

is this a "funny" new poster i see

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 March 2019 22:36 (one year ago) link

tofu skins are very good. fried tofu skin rolls for dimsum but really any old way

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 29 March 2019 22:37 (one year ago) link

Oh! I forgot abt yuba (is that the tofu skins we're referring to?). The Pinnacle of tofu imho. Now I want try making.

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 29 March 2019 22:40 (one year ago) link

I love the Japanese way of serving fresh tofu skin floating in still warm soya milk. That is an absolute joy.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 29 March 2019 22:42 (one year ago) link

Hi Ed! As far as making tofu perchance
Recipe/tips?!

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:03 (one year ago) link

mushrooms kick goddamn ass

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:04 (one year ago) link

mushrooms have barely any protein what is this

forensic plumber (harbl), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:19 (one year ago) link

as a vegan of 15 years and an Actual Fat Person i am the most qualified person to ask this question and i just gotta say ya gotta be kiddin me with this mushroom thing my guy!!!!!!!

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:25 (one year ago) link

Brad Pitt amirite

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:31 (one year ago) link

leg∞mes
pros: the magical fruit, hella cheap, hella fiber, lots of kinds so you can make lots of things, decent-to-high protein amounts, very few ppl with allergies

cons: spending what feels like half my morning on the toilet everyday for years on end, making them from scratch takes hella time

tofu
pros: high protein, is a flavor sponge, short cook times, cute to say out loud, silken kind is good in PIES, can make good breffist tacos with tofu scramble, good value in terms of protein grams per currency unit

cons: ppl got soy allergies, squeezing the water out

prepackaged things like tofurky, gardein, beyond meats, et al
pros: v high in protein, hella convenient, closer "meat" analogues

cons: soy and wheat allergies if you have them, "processed", pricier

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:36 (one year ago) link

mushrooms
pros: taste good

cons: have to eat 50 lbs of them to get a good protein, great expense, die from eating too many mushrooms

forensic plumber (harbl), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:47 (one year ago) link

pros: everytime you eat or cook with them, always get to say you're "doing shrooms"

cons: even if ur high af it still wont give you protein

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:52 (one year ago) link

harbl otm, except mushrooms taste like dirt

seitan is the best but i eat a lot of tofu, beans, and grains

⅋ (crüt), Saturday, 30 March 2019 00:54 (one year ago) link

they do taste like dirt but in a good way, imo

forensic plumber (harbl), Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:05 (one year ago) link

yeah I like things that taste like dirt. Like yerba mate.

brimstead, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:31 (one year ago) link

pro: get to eat 50 lbs of delectable mushrooms, fried maybe and/or roasted, with the totally plausible cover story that you're doing it for the protein

mick signals, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:32 (one year ago) link

mushrooms are the best. it still irks me that portobello placed 2nd in the shrooms poll though because that is the worst shroom

rip van wanko, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:33 (one year ago) link

My father was a horticulturist and used to pick mushrooms in the woods and farms near our house. I was always afraid of a potential mistake that would end all of our lives

Dan S, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:33 (one year ago) link

I couldn’t abide shaggy manes and puffballs but my parents’ general love for mushrooms made me love them in the end

Dan S, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:40 (one year ago) link

Portobellos, shittakes, give them all to me

brimstead, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:51 (one year ago) link

mushrooms, they're good

gbx, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:53 (one year ago) link

mushrooms, they're good

gbx, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:53 (one year ago) link

mushrooms, they're good

gbx, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:53 (one year ago) link

All of the above.

Feng et al, 2019. The association between mushroom consumption and mild cognitive impairment: a community-based cross-sectional study in Singapore. J Alzheimer Dis, (Preprint), pp.1-7.
Darmadi-Blackberry et al, 2004. Legumes: the most important dietary predictor of survival in older people of different ethnicities. Asia Pac J Clin Nut, 13(2), pp.217-220.
Grosso et al, 2015. Nut consumption on all-cause, cardiovascular, and cancer mortality risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis of epidemiologic studies. A J clin nut, 101(4), pp.783-793.

Personally, I've transcended concerns about protein, and actually look at ways to reduce protein intake for longevity and protection from metabolic disorders. Soon, I will be a being of light.

McCarty, 2014. GCN2 and FGF21 are likely mediators of the protection from cancer, autoimmunity, obesity, and diabetes afforded by vegan diets. Medical hypotheses, 83(3), pp.365-371.
Le Couteur et al, 2016. The impact of low-protein high-carbohydrate diets on aging and lifespan. Cell mol life sci, 73(6), pp.1237-1252.
Castaño-Martinez et al, 2019. Methionine restriction prevents onset of type 2 diabetes in NZO mice. FASEB J, pp.fj-201900150R.

bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy (Sanpaku), Saturday, 30 March 2019 02:00 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 5 April 2019 00:01 (one year ago) link

mushrooms I guess not really being a protein source are disqualified, I love nuts/seeds but have to go with legumes

Dan S, Friday, 5 April 2019 00:10 (one year ago) link

Looks like peas and bean sprouts have twice as much protein per serving compared to shrooms. Always considered peas a veg. But they're a legume

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:49 (one year ago) link

I feel embarrassed about mushrooms now. :(

I've been starving them, teasing them, singing off Leee (Leee), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:52 (one year ago) link

They have a v meaty texture when cooked and they rule so. . .

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 April 2019 01:04 (one year ago) link

glad you included mushrooms

Dan S, Friday, 5 April 2019 01:06 (one year ago) link

quorn is made from mycoprotein so not too far away from mushrooms - just wish vegan quorn was more readily available

kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2019 01:10 (one year ago) link

haven't heard of quorn

Dan S, Friday, 5 April 2019 01:27 (one year ago) link

It’s a meat alternative derived from some sort of fungus and it’s kind of like chicken in it’s basic form, but they make a whole range of alternative products with it. Unfortunately they use egg as a binding agent, but in the last few years they’ve trialled a vegan version which tastes p much the same. So it’s somewhat vexing as a vegan that they don’t just lose the egg permanently. It’s easily the most well-known vegetarian food brand in the uk, but they do sell it in other countries too

kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2019 05:51 (one year ago) link

Quorn never sat well with me digestively

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 06:56 (one year ago) link

same. it also tastes kinda weird to me

⅋ (crüt), Friday, 5 April 2019 07:04 (one year ago) link

Works really well in Chinese style dishes. Soaked up sauce like a sponge.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 5 April 2019 07:31 (one year ago) link

quorn is good but dry. beans are amazing and I have enjoyed my recent increased nut intake, but nonetheless mushrooms are one of the greatest things about our planet

ogmor, Friday, 5 April 2019 07:57 (one year ago) link

shiitakes seem to retain a good texture, even when overcooked by fresh fool in the kitchen.

calzino, Friday, 5 April 2019 08:11 (one year ago) link

Love Quorn. Definitely prefer the chicken style quorn over the beef though. Actually I think that's true of all fake meats. I've never really found a beef one I've liked. I'm not talking about sausages there are plenty of those I like but the beef equivalent of the quorn pieces.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 5 April 2019 08:56 (one year ago) link

Seitan. I hated it until I disregarded the preparation instructions usually given. I let mine sit an hour after mixing in water, then I cut it up in cubes and cook it in the crock pot overnight. When I'm ready to eat it, I grill it. No rubbery texture whatsoever. And it's low in fat!

William Wants a Doll (I M Losted), Friday, 5 April 2019 09:47 (one year ago) link

Last time I tried Quorn I don't think any of it was vegan, they were still using battery farmed eggs even.

Armand Frippanino (Noel Emits), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:24 (one year ago) link

Tommy's, a neighborhood restaurant in Cleveland Heights for 40 years that has a large vegetarian menu, has a BBQ seitan sandwich that is outstanding. They serve it on a brioche roll with a couple of bread-and-butter pickle slices on it.

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:55 (one year ago) link

I used to eat seitan straight out of the package.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:57 (one year ago) link

Oh! Sounds killer, esp w/brioche. Was thinking of making BBQ tempeh this weekend for weekday sandwiches, but may have to make a batch of seitan instead.
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Is jackfruit a protein source? Tried a prefab BBQ jackfruit once and it did nothing for me

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:08 (one year ago) link

beans/legumes, seitan, and tofu are all good, i'm not vegan/vegetarian anymore but i enjoy all those. mushrooms are good too but i think they are a little overrated, especially fancy mushrooms which aren't significantly better than common white button mushrooms imo

with few exceptions i think the soy meat analogs (e.g. soy hot dogs, TVP, soy chicken, tofurky, etc.) are all terrible even though i thought otherwise when i was vegan

marcos, Friday, 5 April 2019 14:28 (one year ago) link

jackfruit is not really a protein source but texture-wise it is remarkably like pulled pork

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:07 (one year ago) link

I love mushrooms so much. I was watching that French version of "Farmer Wants a Wife" and like the ones where they have mushroom farmers on. I didn't even think about there being people who just cultivate mushrooms.

Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 15:18 (one year ago) link

Vegan Quorn hasn't shown up in the US AFAICT. I'd like to try it, though with a vomit bucket at hand.

Kardashev scale sex tape (Sanpaku), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:34 (one year ago) link

Same here. Looks like the US advent of Quorn has been a bit sabotaged by Big Veggieburger.

mick signals, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:09 (one year ago) link

The use of BEST PROTEIN SOURCE in the poll question is too damned ambiguous, if you ask me. Best at providing protein? Best tasting? Best value? Best behaved?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:01 (one year ago) link

Don't nitpick, we all know falafel is the best.

pomenitul, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:03 (one year ago) link

Don't nitpick

Nevertheless...

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:06 (one year ago) link

Vegans don't nitpick, they nutpick. (That sounds less pleasant than it should.)

Armand Frippanino (Noel Emits), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:11 (one year ago) link

i like the new veggie burgers. beyond meat burger is dece

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:13 (one year ago) link

https://toriavey.com/images/2011/01/Falafel-10-640x480.jpg

C'mon, admit it. You know it's true.

pomenitul, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:15 (one year ago) link

looks like falafs on oatmeal imho (no argument with your premise!)

The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:40 (one year ago) link

legumes are the clear winner here.

thinking about foul mudammas rn

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:41 (one year ago) link

Is that chunky hummus?

I've been starving them, teasing them, singing off Leee (Leee), Friday, 5 April 2019 19:25 (one year ago) link

it's different in different places but it's essentially usually fava bean stew (sometimes a dip). i like it with lots of olive oil, onion, garlic, tahini, lemon, cumin, and aleppo pepper sauce

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 19:30 (one year ago) link

also it can have some chickpeas in it which i do sometimes

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 19:30 (one year ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:01 (one year ago) link

I was today years old when I found out that pulse can mean something other than a heartbeat.

StanM, Saturday, 6 April 2019 03:46 (one year ago) link

Don't trouble yourself over this. I only learned that in much of the world pulse was used when doing literature searches on health effects of beans/legume/pulses.

Kardashev scale sex tape (Sanpaku), Saturday, 6 April 2019 04:22 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

I have no idea of this is legit but it definitely lets me feel smug: https://getpocket.com/explore/item/here-s-even-more-evidence-that-plant-protein-is-better-for-you-than-animal-protein?utm_source=pocket-newtab

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:10 (six months ago) link

six months pass...

I've been looking through some vegan recipes (both desserts and savory meals) and I see cashews (soaked and processed) a lot as a substitute for cream or cheese or butter(?). I have nothing against cashews but have never had them on hand (apparently they're expensive), so what are some alternatives? Could I use (soaked) chickpeas to similar effect?

Garry Shambling (Leee), Saturday, 1 August 2020 21:34 (two weeks ago) link

Because of the fat content of cashews, they are able to mimic creamier foods when processed in the right way.

Tastewise, you're fine with soaked chickpeas, perhaps with some sunflower seed or oil mixed in.

In terms of texture, particularly for things like cream or cheese or butter substitution, cashews or another tree nut-based protein is probably a better way to go.

I am not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but was for many years, and lived/worked in a vegan cooperative where I had to cook massive amounts of food for 80+ people once/week. Taught me a lot about these things!

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 August 2020 21:41 (two weeks ago) link

I'd also not use chickpeas as a sub in a dessert, but what do I know— I'm slightly grossed out by the idea of black bean brownies, which is apparently a very normal vegan thing.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 August 2020 21:45 (two weeks ago) link

thats not normal, ive never done that shit in my life

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:00 (two weeks ago) link

and i have done some v vegan shit in my 17 years of veganity

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:00 (two weeks ago) link

I'm not vegan, so for one recipe I just went with yogurt, but maybe I'll keep an eye out for raw cashews the next time I go shopping. Until then, I think that I'll try out the chickpeas in a vegan cheese/sauce recipe (although the rest of the recipe is centered around chickpeas too).

lol black bean brownies are great (with the right recipe)! You really have to be searching out for them to taste them (they all but disappear under the chocolate/sweeteners), though they will give you a denser texture. (I've tried other atypical ingredients in my brownies, avocados being the least successful.)

xp

Garry Shambling (Leee), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:28 (two weeks ago) link

I never voted in this because whadda I know I eat steak and burgers like 4 days a week but I feel confident the major protein source for people after the next couple decades could very well be fungus

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:34 (two weeks ago) link

I have a flourless cookie recipe that uses black beans and they’re delicious, really fudgey and black beans are tasteless. Fuck chickpea cookies, though, absolutely disgusting.

Leeeeee, Trader Joe’s or a bulk foods will have decent prices on raw cashews. They’re a really excellent sub for cream. I used to make a baked potato scallopini thing using cashew cream and it was rich and delicious as fuck. The cashews produce a lovely milk or cream that you can flavor how you wish bc raw cashews are pretty tasteless. I think silken tofu is also a good sub for thicker things like cheesecake.

just1n3, Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:47 (one week ago) link

Second Justine (hi J!) on silken tofu...I used to make a mean silken tofu Chocolate pudding that was the perfect texture and divine. Was the Belle of the ball whenever I made it.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 August 2020 01:09 (one week ago) link

+1 for silken tofu for chocolate pie, great way to sneak in protein to a dessert for #gainz

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:12 (one week ago) link

Hi tabes <3

just1n3, Sunday, 2 August 2020 08:21 (one week ago) link

we use cashews instead of parmesan when we make pesto, works out really nicely

Boris the Spreader (NickB), Sunday, 2 August 2020 14:58 (one week ago) link

it's not the fat content of cashews, it's thickening power bcuz of their starch that make it such a prefect and widely used subsitute in vegan cooking imo. plus they don't have a lot of character, so like tofu, can be used as a blank canvas for which to infuse flavor? garbanzos won't give you the same effect. but using them depends on what you're making i guess

sacra fames scampos (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 2 August 2020 15:40 (one week ago) link

Good shout Justine! I've put it on my TJ shipping list.

Garry Shambling (Leee), Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:23 (one week ago) link

I've seen a few places extolling the virtues of soaking anything from beans, grains, to nuts, to improve digestibility. Is that just woo woo? I only ever soak dry beans, and haven't had problems with gassiness if I don't soak e.g. some quinoa.

Garry Shambling (Leee), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:56 (three days ago) link

i don't think it's fake but every mexican cookbook i've looked at is like we don't soak beans here
i looked this up recently and found this explanation https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/how-to-reduce-antinutrients , seems like a legitimate way to get rid of the water soluble stuff that bothers some people

contorted filbert (harbl), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:01 (three days ago) link

Its wise to soak and wash quinoa, as that reduces saponins and makes them less bitter.

For legumes, when discarding the soak water there's a slight reduction in the α-galactosides like raffinose and stachyose. This may help with bloating/flatulence in those who don't eat legumes regularly, but the same α-galactosides are fermentable fiber that provide most of the benefits to gut microbiome.

The main plausible reason to soak nuts is to soften them. Cashew milk recipes often call for soaking overnight before blending (in the same water), and the product can be used as either dairy milk sub or ingredient in vegan cheeze making.

I haven't encountered a plausible reason to wash whole grains or bulgur wheat in the literature. As in there aren't digestive enzyme inhibitors that will elute into soak/wash water that aren't also disseminated through the grain. Of course soak them before cooking them or using them in tabouli.

Most people who talk about digestibility in health food communities aren't very qualified to have an opinion. The idea that one must soak them to improve digestibility is akin to the idea that human digestion relies on enzymes only present in raw vegetables. In general, its not true.

Who will station the ox there? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:15 (three days ago) link

Most people who talk about digestibility in health food communities aren't very qualified to have an opinion.


hmmmmmmm

brimstead, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:00 (three days ago) link

lol

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:15 (three days ago) link


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