So ... how's it going?
― djh, Sunday, 24 March 2019 20:27 (five months ago) link
just moved to a new town and doing the yard clean up (or my partner is i should say). my brother bought us a lime tree and we will be planting it soon. we understand the climate is fairly optimal and we should getting a decent yield of limes going forward
― sknybrg, Sunday, 24 March 2019 20:37 (five months ago) link
I just finished climbing around on the roof with a pole saw, cleaning up a Japanese maple; tomorrow I'll probably try to rescue some pink dogwoods that are surrounded by brush.
For the last few years, I've spent a lot of time reclaiming different parts of our yard from the wilderness, and it's really changed the space around the house. Maybe this year I'll finally plant some new trees and shrubs.
― Brad C., Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:40 (five months ago) link
I only get to visit my garden occasionally since it's at my boyfriend's house. Raring to get started for the year on the kitchen garden and also on planting out some flower beds that get weed choked--I need to find more aggressive ornamental plants that can compete.
Things I want to plant/encourage this year: Purple basil, dusty miller, dill, tansy, alliums, lilacs, more decorative mints, nicotania. Ambitious, I know.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 25 March 2019 14:04 (five months ago) link
What's still worth planting (in the UK)?
― djh, Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:32 (three months ago) link
i just started a container garden last week. starting small: my son made a flower pot for my wife for mother's day, and we got some bush bean seeds that have sprouted the last few days. gonna add a little bit each month, especially once we get some nicer fall weather bc the summers here are so brutal.
― hollow your fart (m bison), Tuesday, 18 June 2019 17:38 (three months ago) link
The Sarah Raven website suggests:
Artichoke, Beetroot, Borlotti Beans, Carrots, Chard, Chicory, French Beans, Kale, Leeks, Mustard, Radish, Runner Beans, Spinach (Perpetual), Spring Onions and Agretti.
― djh, Thursday, 20 June 2019 19:40 (three months ago) link
Have enjoyed nasturtiums this year ... in slightly weird "i'm bored in my lunch half hour, I'll go and buy a packet of nasturtiums from the local Wilkos" sort-of-way and popping them where ever there is space. Wish I'd kept packets/labels because there are some fucking amazing ones (and an amazing difference between varieties).
― djh, Tuesday, 25 June 2019 21:55 (two months ago) link
nice. i plant them beneath fruit trees since they're a nitrogen fixer/make a good mulch when you pull them up post-seeding... also just discovered they're effective at discouraging codling moths for an extra bonus.
late in the season (nz-wise) but i've been planting a bunch of gooseberries & currents i'd propagated after clearing an area of aluminium plant (a garden escape scourge in the antipodes, if not europe).
― no lime tangier, Wednesday, 26 June 2019 05:44 (two months ago) link
Nasturtiums rampaging over garden (though many not yet flowering, possibly in too good soil), my best sunflowers (where best equals tallest), peas fighting for space (usually they don't survive this far), cucumbers bursting out, squash making a tentative appearance, lots of leaves (although some crops of rocket haven't liked the compost - New Horizon, I think). My annual attempts at artichokes are looking forlorn.
― djh, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 19:55 (two months ago) link
Despite planting a bit earlier than was wise and following up with complete and utter neglect (I have literally done NOTHING since sticking the seedlings in the ground--no pruning, watering, fertilizing, weeding, or attaching the cage extensions) ITS TOMATO SEASON OH YEAH.
Since a critter got to my first fully ripe fruit, I'm going with early harvesting--just as the color breaks--and ripening indoors. Not sharing my tomatoes with critters. Sorry critters.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:03 (two months ago) link
I meant courgettes not cucumbers, above.
― djh, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 12:02 (one month ago) link
Anyway, the sunflowers are still looking magnificent. I've made loads and loads of nasturtium salads and pestos and have pickled a mass of seeds (as faux capers) but they're beginning to look tired and raggedy now. The broad beans have run out of steam, ditto the peas. There are some squash but it's difficult to believe that they will ever reach a size worth eating. Have pulled out all the rocket ... straggly and have devoured by flea beetles. Have ordered some interesting autumn salads, though.
― djh, Tuesday, 30 July 2019 12:06 (one month ago) link
My garden initially looked like this:
corn corn corn cucumber cucumber marigold leeks peas peas tomato tomato marigold leeks tomato tomato basil basil marigold leekslettuce lettuce carrots cilantro marigold leekskale kale sage radishes nasturtiumschives chinese chives garlic chives thyme lemon thyme parsley
At this point the radishes are long over, the lettuces all bolted (what we didn't eat first), and the peas went bitter in between one weekend and another so we didn't even get to eat most of them. Boo.
I pulled out the spent veg and added: red cabbage, yellow squash, brussels sprouts, and green beans, to try to get a second crop out of this year.
Cucumbers have been ripening like mad lately, more every day. Tomatoes are fruiting but still green (what the deer haven't eaten). Corn is just about to burst! SO excited to pull corn off the stalk and eat it ASAP.
Pretty much every meal we have some veg or herbs from the garden, which feels incredible. What I need to get better at is planting in shifts--like seeding a new square of radishes every 2-3 weeks so they don't all ripen at once. Otherwise we have like 60 radishes that all have to be eaten in a few weeks.
I kind of want raspberry bushes but I'm afraid they'll eat the whole yard.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:36 (one month ago) link
Oh also there are 6 or 7 kinds of mints mostly in containers because I'm not completely dim, and a lot of dill that I just made pickles with.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:37 (one month ago) link
Also I need to find a way to eat more of the nasturtiums. We added some to green salad but a lot went to waste (besides being pretty and good at bug-repelling).
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 14:38 (one month ago) link
disregard my nasturtium = nitrogen fixing capability mention above - can't actually find any confirmation of that & not sure now where i heard it from (still an excellent groundcover/mulch/etc though)
i have been pruning and then using the best pieces for propagating some more gooseberries/currants... & attempting a couple of apples/pears which i fully expect to fail
also aquired a pole-cutter so now i'm having fun going around and pruning branches i couldn't reach without risk to life/limb. it is strangely satisfying.
― no lime tangier, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 01:50 (one month ago) link
x-post. The nasturtiums get used to top up other salads (leaves and petals), in a pesto (fairly straight-forward) and I pickle the seeds (as kind-of capers) ... but this isn't why I grow them - I grow them because I like them and the use as food is an extra.
― djh, Wednesday, 31 July 2019 06:21 (one month ago) link
i have green beans! and i used basil in a meal i made last week! im gonna buy some more stuff this weekend! yayyyyyy!
― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:37 (one month ago) link
now i want access to land so i can plant pecan trees
Hmmm I wonder if next year I could plant peas and/or beans on my fire escape and use the handrail as a trellis. Do you think the squirrels will leave me anything to harvest?
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:40 (one month ago) link
ime on the first floor adjacent to deer and squirrels is that they do not give a fuck but then again we have a fence so idk
― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Wednesday, 31 July 2019 13:42 (one month ago) link
i like the idea of handrail as trellis!
Plants on a fire escape sounds a terrible idea ... It's a fire escape!
― djh, Saturday, 3 August 2019 17:17 (one month ago) link
The first batch of nasturtiums I planted - I'm not sure what variety but a sprawling, climbing one - now just look like Robert Smith's hair, except with caterpillars.
― djh, Saturday, 3 August 2019 17:19 (one month ago) link
My garden let me show you it (if this works)
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:19 (one month ago) link
i bought a lime tree yesterday!
― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:21 (one month ago) link
Eeyyy cool! I imagine that will be very pretty although I mostly got that from the Peter, Paul & Mary song.
Does this work?
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:39 (one month ago) link
Helluva leek! Did you direct sow seed ?
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:41 (one month ago) link
wow, that leek is amazing.
― Yerac, Monday, 5 August 2019 14:43 (one month ago) link
Okay here are more scenes from my garden this weekend.
Broccoli takes up way too much space and you don't get much yield. Will buy in the store from now on.
These red cabbages will hopefully mature before they freeze.
The cucumbers are out of control!
Got a whole pile of natural "baby" carrots not shown here.
Several people have told me they "can't" grow basil??? Idgi I did nothing special and we have tons, two years in a row. Maybe it just really likes being near the tomatoes?
A good place to have coffee.
xp The leeks are from shoots but a lot of the other plants are from seed! I did a mix of both depending on what I could find in garden stores.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:46 (one month ago) link
Forgot one -- the corn is from seed also and I wasn't sure it would pollinate properly since I only have 5 plants but it seems good.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:48 (one month ago) link
this is amazing. did you have to do anything to the soil before planting? I have had no luck at all the past couple of years. I can't maintain any sort of watering schedule and there is always one period of time where everything ends up wilting from the sun/lack of water.
― Yerac, Monday, 5 August 2019 14:50 (one month ago) link
Honestly leeks are like...prehistoric. They're like a dinosaur age relic of some forgotten ancestor. I think it's the regular geometric overlapping pattern but I don't know why I think that.
xp The garden existed before C moved there, so someone else had already had it manured and tilled. It was all ready for me to plant last year. In the fall/winter though, I didn't take care of it properly so I had a hell of a lot of weeding to do by spring, and once I got it cleaned out I noticed that the soil was a little less loamy and more clay-y than last year so I think I need to remediate again this winter. We don't currently have a compost heap/box but I want one for this reason (also to throw out less shit).
The manure is great for enrichment but it also brought LOADS of pasture weeds with it. I pull out chickweed and clover and grasses and purslane and pigweed CONSTANTLY.
The weather helps--I hand-water if I'm up there and it hasn't rained in 4-5 days but it's a good growing region in general.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2019 14:56 (one month ago) link
My mother buries everything in the garden (likely have mentioned this before). She doesn't have a compost heap but just keeps a bowl by the sink and put everything in there to take out later, coffee grounds, eggs shells, crab shells, fishheads, etc. That garden is lush as F.
― Yerac, Monday, 5 August 2019 15:01 (one month ago) link
Ooooh I should try some coffee grounds & shrimp tails & vegetable trimmings. I already do egg shells. A little short on fish heads. Do you know if the animal products ever cause critters to dig up the garden? I worry about that (also something chewed on a carton of egg shells that were outside drying out).
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 5 August 2019 15:16 (one month ago) link
She's in the suburbs of Virginia so she doesn't have much of an issue with critters but did put up some fencing for when they had dogs. I am not sure how deep she buries stuff too. She is out there every day for hours because it's the main thing she does now.
― Yerac, Monday, 5 August 2019 15:18 (one month ago) link
I haven't done any active gardening this year, but our muscadine is going to yield several gallons of fruit after several years of zilch due to mistimed pruning. (One year it was a tornado going through the neighborhood, a couple of seasons of neighbors on the shared fence fucking it up.)
― Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 12:58 (one month ago) link
WOW! That's a laden bough! Nice night shot, too. How are they for eating?
I kind of want to plant some kind of fruit up at the house but I don't want to battle raspberry canes forever when they start taking over. Am torn. There's a large privacy hedge about 8-10' tall that doesn't flower or bear anything and I kind of want to root it out and replace with lilacs & berries but that's a big project.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:38 (one month ago) link
They're delicious. Good and tart. I swear this is the year I'm going to make a muscadine-skin pie.
― Manfred Hemming-Hawing (WmC), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 13:46 (one month ago) link
I hate bindweed.
I've been getting White Plume moths in the garden (and, occasionally, I find them on the bathroom ceiling). Googling to find if there's any particular plant associated with White Plumes, I discover it is ... bindweed.
It can stay. Well, some of it.
― djh, Monday, 12 August 2019 20:46 (one month ago) link
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 12 August 2019 21:13 (one month ago) link
That bug is very creepy. I was expecting something...moth-ier...with like normal wings.
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 12 August 2019 21:15 (one month ago) link
yeah, i do not like that guy.
I want to see pics of whatever happens to the muscadine.
― Yerac, Monday, 12 August 2019 21:19 (one month ago) link
― djh, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 20:45 (one month ago) link
Up to 13.5 lbs. of muscadines from the one vine and I don't think we're halfway done yet. That's not counting the fruit on the neighbors' side of the fence, which I think they're just letting rot.
― The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:26 (one month ago) link
what do those taste like bc they look good
― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:34 (one month ago) link
I can't describe them...have you had Japanese muscat gummy candies? They taste like that but more tart.
― The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:40 (one month ago) link
i havent but i like gummy candies as a genre? so that sounds amazing
― Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:43 (one month ago) link
If you're in an Asian grocery, get some of these -- they're really good.
― The Chronicles of Ermagerd (WmC), Thursday, 22 August 2019 02:48 (one month ago) link