END TO END BERNERS: The Official Bernie Sanders 2020 Crew thread

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Get in here, bros

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:13 (eleven months ago) link

If Bernie could make it through the primary (massive if) then I’d put money on him in the general.

gyac, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:15 (eleven months ago) link

IT'S OFFICIAL DAD IS RUNNING pic.twitter.com/eisSCAJgdt

— Secular Talk (@KyleKulinski) February 19, 2019

anvil, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:17 (eleven months ago) link

calling up all my bros from online to get in formation defending our dadhttps://t.co/N3acgEo3K6

— listen to VanderPod (@kath_krueger) February 19, 2019

anvil, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:19 (eleven months ago) link

I Love Politics. Now more than ever.

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:28 (eleven months ago) link

these are the facts whether you want to believe it or not

young people in this country OVERWHELMINGLY voted for Bernie Sanders pic.twitter.com/ulYYQgrjaY

— architect (@TheNewThinkerr) February 19, 2019

anvil, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:31 (eleven months ago) link

All other issues aside, I'll heartily endorse anything that gets us closer to one day having a nonagenarian president. The older the better, I say.

A functioning gazebo made of Candlebox cassingles (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:31 (eleven months ago) link

all I want for this election cycle is for bernie to get heavily into steroids and punch ben shapiro’s head clean off his body at a live debate event before announcing that cm punk is his vp pick

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:44 (eleven months ago) link

I'm sorry but I think "Four years of Larry David on SNL" is a knock-down final argument in favor of Bernie if anyone is on the fence

— Nathan J Robinson (@NathanJRobinson) February 19, 2019

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:55 (eleven months ago) link

ha!

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:56 (eleven months ago) link

wait a second, another political thread?!?!?! *madly shuffles papers around and slips on a banana peel*

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:57 (eleven months ago) link

Bernie announces! Finally! pic.twitter.com/NCt1qWfVk8

— Katie Halper (@kthalps) February 19, 2019

anvil, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 20:59 (eleven months ago) link

wrong version of Finally tho!

anvil, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:02 (eleven months ago) link

Not sure if i prefer warren or bernie, but i think bernie will get the nomination, honestly.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:14 (eleven months ago) link

Harris v Sanders seems like what it'll come down to

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:15 (eleven months ago) link

A very early test for Bernie is if he and his surrogates speak out, loudly and repeatedly, against supporters doling out online abuse in his name. If he/they do, he’s serious about being more than a purist spoiler. If not...

— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) February 19, 2019

lmao

k3vin k., Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:16 (eleven months ago) link

this is going to be a wonderful year

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:17 (eleven months ago) link

Good to see Clara “dapper white nationalist” concerned about civility this early in the game!

This was doing the rounds on some parts of Irish twitter:

For the day that's in it.

Bernie Sanders' letter to Margaret Thatcher re the Maze hunger strikers. pic.twitter.com/euUN8LB2Xa

— Richard Chambers (@newschambers) February 19, 2019

gyac, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 21:20 (eleven months ago) link

I pet Griffin. He is 3 months old and a Bernedoodle. He likes meeting new people and dogs. Griffin’s hobbies are digging in flower beds, and chewing shoes. His caregiver says he is as naughty as he is cute. pic.twitter.com/yAp9G0eu4v

— I've Pet That Dog (@IvePetThatDog) February 19, 2019

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:28 (eleven months ago) link

Every photo of him he’s looking more insane and unhinged than the last

calstars, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:38 (eleven months ago) link

Insane and unhinged?

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 19 February 2019 23:40 (eleven months ago) link

if you think about it, this is just recycling the money i earned from doing harassment back into the campaign pic.twitter.com/G5l4eiV4CN

— Virgil Texas (@virgiltexas) February 20, 2019

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 03:11 (eleven months ago) link

:)

Dan S, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 03:34 (eleven months ago) link

if he gets the nomination, i cannot fucking wait to watch him debate trump. i feel like trump is legitimately frightened of bernie

weren't they supposed to debate in 2016 then trump got cold feet?

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 03:47 (eleven months ago) link

Let’s get this started! Bernie’s haters can’t engage his ideas so they pretend all of his supporters are straight, white, men & invisibleize everyone else. This is what a #bernieBro looks like. #JustAnotherBernieBro #bernieBros pic.twitter.com/tnS8weH7LI

— Katie Halper (@kthalps) February 19, 2019

anvil, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:11 (eleven months ago) link

Xpost

It is really funny how Warren’s bid has Trump letting loose a torrent of racist insanity and Bernie’s announcement has him like:

“Personally, I think he missed his time ... I wish Bernie well. It will be interesting to see how he does."

ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 04:57 (eleven months ago) link

Please God

Be on Bernie's side this time

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/0C99/production/_88952230_88952229.jpg

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 05:01 (eleven months ago) link

birds for bernie

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 05:02 (eleven months ago) link

❤️

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 05:03 (eleven months ago) link

maybe this will encourage Hillary to nominate

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 05:04 (eleven months ago) link

I have my large sock o' manure ready for all uses of "purist/ty"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 05:27 (eleven months ago) link

im excited

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 05:39 (eleven months ago) link

The Federalist asked me to write a piece on why Bernie is the strongest Democratic candidate, so that's what I did https://t.co/wCoAOqZdT7

— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) February 19, 2019

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 06:35 (eleven months ago) link

dreamboat

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 08:38 (eleven months ago) link

and if the federalist asked you to jump off a cliff...

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 08:49 (eleven months ago) link

Usually when I wake up I get a few laughs on all that has been going in the US politics timeline. And its even crazier and funnier this morning.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 09:16 (eleven months ago) link

brexit

j., Wednesday, 20 February 2019 14:44 (eleven months ago) link

That's my timeline from 9am, and its funny too

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:33 (eleven months ago) link

Bernie Sanders’s 24 hour haul: 223,047 individuals gave $5,925,771.

Average: $27

— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) February 20, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:41 (eleven months ago) link

The 27 Club

nickn, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:19 (eleven months ago) link

I think Bernie should tell the less onerous dems who are running to stop and support him. Then give them some positions in the cabinet and make the go to Sanders School one day each week to actually understand the issues and learn the politics. #BERNIE2020 @janeosanders

— RoseAnn DeMoro (@RoseAnnDeMoro) February 16, 2019

There seems to be a media black out on @TulsiGabbard

— RoseAnn DeMoro (@RoseAnnDeMoro) February 17, 2019

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:38 (eleven months ago) link

I'm gonna really commit myself to being civil and patient in my discussions of Bernie with Bernie-skeptics/Bernie-haters. But man, it's hard. Blood pressure already up today from trying to discuss this shit.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:39 (eleven months ago) link

Nerdstrom is anti-nurses union, what a surprise

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:40 (eleven months ago) link

I like that lady, head of the California Nurses union and guest of the Sanders Institute. Completely psycho.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:42 (eleven months ago) link

Those crazy women

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:43 (eleven months ago) link

threadban Nerdstrom plz

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:44 (eleven months ago) link

I listened for a while when I was driving 5 hours a day, in the period when it was mostly MMA guys and health and wellness grifters. Rogan is seemingly one of the dumbest, most credulous people on Earth, he will believe anything the person in front of him says with authority - but he's not actively evil. He's precisely the kind of person you can swing by breaking him out of his bro bubble where people repeat the Ben Shapiro attack helicopter jokes.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:00 (five hours ago) link

There's a parallel to Bill Maher, who thinks he's a genius and is far more mean-spirited whereas Rogan seems to accept that he's a dumbass.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:02 (five hours ago) link

These are different ideas, though. Is anyone arguing that you need to cede ground on LGBTQ issues to whatever percentage of Rogan's fanbase are irredeemable CHUDs?

It is not inconceivable that, given loud enough voices, an M4A bill would be constructed that would not cover gender-affirming surgeries.

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:10 (five hours ago) link

Who's suggesting that's an acceptable compromise to get the Rogan Vote and is there any indication a Sanders Presidency would follow that path?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:15 (five hours ago) link

If anyone is wondering if I'm being an idiot, I am being an idiot - I'd thought that the Bernie interview was more recent and that it was the cause of this.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 24 January 2020 18:31 (five hours ago) link

the "endorsement" seems to have been made to Bari Weiss's face, which is perhaps the only good thing about it

symsymsym, Friday, 24 January 2020 18:37 (five hours ago) link

the "endorsement" seems to have been made to Bari Weiss's face, which is perhaps the only good thing about it

― symsymsym, Friday, January 24, 2020 10:37 AM (thirty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh that's hilarious

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:38 (five hours ago) link

rogan sucks ass and bernie's camp emphasizing the endorsement is lame. i am a little bummed about it.

ingredience (map), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:43 (five hours ago) link

^^ best take yet imo

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:51 (five hours ago) link

i really don't know this Rogan guy, but Maher seems approximately as vile and I believe he supported Sanders in the '16 primaries

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 January 2020 18:53 (five hours ago) link

Rogan is seemingly one of the dumbest, most credulous people on Earth, he will believe anything the person in front of him says with authority

100%. Rogan is as dumb as a rock, pervesely this can make him a good interviewer. Though on occasion some right wing balloon (Dave Rubin, Candace Owens) is exposed for being too dumb eveb for Rogan. He's kind of inadvertently Socratic

anvil, Friday, 24 January 2020 18:53 (five hours ago) link

I think AOC is supposed to be going on later this year also fwiw

anvil, Friday, 24 January 2020 18:55 (five hours ago) link

Wonder if he would have ContraPoints on

anvil, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:22 (four hours ago) link

I'm pretty sure he would (assuming her metrics/reach are sufficient), it's more about whether she would want to put up with any more controversy

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:25 (four hours ago) link

She has run into her own troubles of late true.

anvil, Friday, 24 January 2020 19:28 (four hours ago) link

xxxxxp I apologize for minimizing anyone's concerns about this, and although I've never listened to an episode of Joe Rogan* I absolutely believe you that he is transphobic (I also haven't been able to click through the links posted above at work) and absolutely understand why his presence would make you uncomfortable.

*I did watch one Rogan clip on youtube once -- it was Jordan Peterson talking very earnestly about how some cider caused him a bizarre months-long illness and it was hilarious.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:30 (four hours ago) link

fwiw, I don't love the fact that some of his surrogates have ties to Farrakhan, who is genuinely a virulent and hateful open antisemite. I'm less bothered by it because obviously Bernie is not antisemitic, and I hope he's not transphobic either.

I struggle with criticisms of "his supporters" or "his base" because that's such a nebulous concept. Unless you're literally talking about people on his campaign, it's just whatever random individuals on the internet profess support for him for any reason whatsoever, as well as occasional trolls, bots, etc.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:35 (four hours ago) link

I think we can all agree that fear ... is definitely not a factor for Bernie

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:37 (four hours ago) link

Presidential politics is weird and messy and people support candidates for all kinds of reasons. Bernie has some "crossover" support. I don't think that reflects on him so much as just on the way a lot of less politically involved people choose their candidates.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:38 (four hours ago) link

Why does Sanders get this benefit of the doubt when literally no other candidate does?

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:48 (four hours ago) link

ftr I don't think Bernie Sanders is an edgelord but it's really fucking infuriating when shit that would make you guys throw literally any other human being running for President out of a window gets dismissed as "oh well that's just politics *shrug*"

y'all are like Buttigieg supporters

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:50 (four hours ago) link

because all the other candidates ... are bad?

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:50 (four hours ago) link

I mean, also, like, the election of Trump basically shattered the illusion that all the piddly news blips and gaffes and nonsense are all just B-plots and the vast majority of voters don't really care about anything but the issues and/or the stuff that affects them directly

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:53 (four hours ago) link

I don't think the reaction would be much different for anyone else appearing on the Rogan show. He's a dumb guy with a lot of awful guests, but it's not the Fox News White Power Hour.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:53 (four hours ago) link

Howard Stern is pretty disgusting too and Hillary went on that show. #whatabout

treeship., Friday, 24 January 2020 19:54 (four hours ago) link

Why does Sanders get this benefit of the doubt when literally no other candidate does?

iirc Warren gets the benefit of doubt about a lot of weird and bad shit she's said and done!

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:54 (four hours ago) link

I mean Whiney why don't you just cut the shit and call Powell a nigger on Twitter

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:54 (four hours ago) link

*aren't (xpost to me)

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:54 (four hours ago) link

Other candidates trying to get on the show indicates that it isn't automatically seen in a negative light.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:54 (four hours ago) link

I mean Whiney why don't you just cut the shit and call Powell a nigger on Twitter

― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, January 24, 2020 2:54 PM (six seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

I called him a "war criminal," which should ideally imply and signal vast amounts of capital and power, i.e., the exact *opposite* of what that word represents?

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 January 2020 19:57 (four hours ago) link

Howard Stern's AIDS "jokes" from the '80s seem forgotten

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:03 (three hours ago) link

Calling Colin Powell a war criminal has the added bonus of being absolutely correct.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:14 (three hours ago) link

Why does Sanders get this benefit of the doubt when literally no other candidate does?

citation needed. sure, kamala didn't get the benefit of the doubt. nor did the other candidates of color, but there are several white candidates still running who get that benefit fairly often, iirc.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:15 (three hours ago) link

yeah like with pete we give him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't order the bread price fixing he just carried it out or he probably isn't actually a member of the CIA only an asset

Mordy, Friday, 24 January 2020 20:17 (three hours ago) link

the best argument against Pete being CIA is that he def would have found some way to stick it on his CV

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:18 (three hours ago) link

CIA asset? bit of hyperbole there, mordy

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:19 (three hours ago) link

Anyway all this Rogan talk means we're overlooking Justin Jackson's endorsement!

anvil, Friday, 24 January 2020 20:22 (three hours ago) link

the best way I can describe the reason why Sanders gets the benefit of the doubt from me is that of all the candidates he has remained absolutely clear and consistent in the message he wants to deliver about his goals, over two consecutive presidential election cycles - by any measure. more so than any other candidate, including Warren. whether Sanders can deliver on his goals may be fairly doubted, but what those goals are is not really a question.

The doubts that Sanders' opponents are trying to raise about him are based not on anything he has said or done - or rarely so - but look instead to raise questions about the goals of certain people who openly back Sanders, implying that if these supporters have such goals they must believe Sanders shares them, and shouldn't we wonder whether Sanders has a hidden allegiance to these goals? They further state that, unless Sanders explicitly repudiates those supporters based on their having questionable goals, he has implicitly endorsed those goals.

To put it baldly, that's horseshit. Sanders needs votes so he can carry out his goals. If the voters that put him over the top are people who will be disappointed in his politics it won't be because Sanders misled them. He has been pretty damn clear about his priorities. Those are what we need to judge him by, not by tallying how many idiots choose him over the other candidates. The idiots distribute themselves pretty widely, for idiotic reasons of their own.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:37 (three hours ago) link

booming post

chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:43 (three hours ago) link

sure but also dont retweet bigots like joe rogan

majority whip, majority nae nae (m bison), Friday, 24 January 2020 22:32 (one hour ago) link

So many gems in @BernieSanders' back catalog. This riff on the consolidated corporate media's role in isolating & demoralizing American workers is from a 1998 @UAW Community Action Conference. pic.twitter.com/lWnRsxz5NE

— Every nimble plane is a policy failure. (@KindAndUnblind) January 23, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 24 January 2020 22:51 (one hour ago) link

i guess when you look that old in your mid-50s you don't have to worry about changing too much

mookieproof, Friday, 24 January 2020 22:58 (one hour ago) link

https://web.archive.org/web/19970428081932/http://www.house.gov/bernie/

jaymc, Friday, 24 January 2020 23:19 (thirty-nine minutes ago) link

graphic design is his passion

treeship., Friday, 24 January 2020 23:20 (thirty-eight minutes ago) link

are rogan's listeners mostly trump voters?

treeship., Friday, 24 January 2020 23:21 (thirty-seven minutes ago) link

Are rogan listeners even voters?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:32 (twenty-six minutes ago) link

it's one of the most popular podcasts in the US (and the rest of the anglophone world, possibly beyond). if you know a millennial normy man there is a decent chance he has listened to the show at some stage

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:41 (seventeen minutes ago) link

I only really know him for the one time Elon smoked weed in his show and the memes that came from
It.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:47 (eleven minutes ago) link

Liberals Say Sanders’s Acceptance Of Rogan Endorsement Sends Dangerous Message He Trying To Win Election https://t.co/QqDVl0SoWj pic.twitter.com/r8GrXBHvN9

— The Onion (@TheOnion) January 24, 2020

jaymc, Friday, 24 January 2020 23:56 (two minutes ago) link

hahahahahahaha

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:57 (one minute ago) link


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