Mulholland Drive - theories please.

bell_labs, was it on KRON? I was wondering how they'd edit <i>those scenes</i>.

It kind of was some melrose-place like tv show for the first hour.

i don't know, i think it was on the CW or something? they must have edited out a bunch of sexy stuff. it didn't click with me that it was "actually" a david lynch movie until the part with extended acapella roy orbison song.

what does CW stand for?

CW = former WB, i have no idea what it stands for

It's a David Lynch movie from the moment the lights go down and the Angelo Badalamenti strikes up.

Mrs. Dancer thinks it's "Cunt Watch"

Yeah, I saw it on Channel 9 here, and I gather I missed some steamy girl-on-girl action and a most unsexy masturbation scene in which Naomi Watts basically hatefucks herself (or so I'm told by my neighbor). '

Still, I'm mightily creeped out by the film.

those scenes are key

also, urgent

hairpie blurred out for DVD
also: Lynch's one-chapter-only insistence basically resulted in a DVD that now no longer plays past the first hour or so. awesome :(

it's Lynch's Lovesexy.

When I think of the glory days of the internet that salon article usually comes to mind first. WE'RE DOIN IT GUYS! WE'RE SOLVING MULHOLLAND DRIVE!

thats weird

That film is weird and nobody last century would have convinced their editors to let them analyze it.

what?

those scenes are key

I see what you did there.

Chaki I was half kidding about the glory days. All the same no mainstream print media would ever devote so much space to a Lynch dissection.

you've obviously never read Cinemafantastique!

we need to watch this every now and then

Ya gotta love the man.

is Cinemafantastique still around?

i met lynch once, really sweet guy, he was very patient with my drunken fanboy friend

you always talk in the sec person about yrslf? ;-)

He came into my office at my last job. Evidently, he's "really into cows" at the moment.

still never seen this movie, because it is not part of the Friday the 13th series

fair enough.

It will be when Freddy vs. Betty comes out

that youtube clip is great

I guess all the girl-girl kissy scenes are completely removed from bowdlerized broadcast cuts?

I still can't look/think about that homeless Trent Reznor guy without a ton of anxiety.

likewise. As one reviewer said, it gets in your head and STAYS THERE. Although now I'll never look at Trent Reznor the same way again.

I had a DVD of the original TV pilot version - it was ok, didn't have the atmosphere of the movie at all. Maybe would have worked for Twin Peaks fans, though.

this movie is way overrated, i was so disappointed when i finally saw it. "blue velvet" is light-years better.

no

? Blue Velvet is way clumsier

http://www.indiewire.com/biz/lynchcow1.jpg

http://www.davidlynch.de/lynchcow2.jpg

Blue Velvet is not light years better. Why is it light years better?

adheres to conventional thriller narrative structure...? (just guessing)

i mean "blue velvet" is driven by a strong story and has countless indelible moments and still leaves me feeling like i've witnessed something astonishing and complex. MD just leaves me feeling like i've seen a long string of marginally related scenes that don't add up to anything. what exactly do you guys get out of it?

well, the lights go down, and you go into this WORLD...

More multi-plot TV pilots should be given "it was all a dream" endings and released in theatres!

could any other director get away with that kind of ending? Rob Reiner didn't.

MD just leaves me feeling like i've seen a long string of marginally related scenes that don't add up to anything.

Huh? Really? It seems pretty straightforward, honestly.

Blue Velvet has never struck me as particularly complex - its a "coming of age"-type story about a young guy discovering the dark underbelly of America, etc. It has a clear beginning, middle, and end; a villain; a classic "femme fatale", etc. "Mulholland Drive" is so much more dense and intricate - involving the mutability of identity, the Hollywood "dream" (of making it big, of being in a movie, of being someone you're not); its about creative control, obsession, and denial; the nature of recorded media... so many things in there.

Including thirty minutes of "and you were there, and you were there, and you were there..."

Other pilot producers must be SO fucking jealous of this movie.

Lynch has always had a thing for the Wizard of Oz

Huh? Really? It seems pretty straightforward, honestly.

Hmm...Do you have theories about Gravity's Rainbow?

gravity's rainbow is about transcendence