New reporting on the AOC-Yoho incident: The day after Rep. Ted Yoho harassed Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez with his disgusting, vulgar tirade, @AOC approached Yoho and told him, "You do that to me again, I won't be so nice next time."https://t.co/BXck5vpLdt— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) October 28, 2020
wheeeew
― frogbs, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
she then told him I'LL PUT TRADEMARKS ON YOUR EYELIDS
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
ya just got PULVERIZED ya Yoho! *AIRHORN*
― just another 3-pinnochio post by (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link
A couple of other passages from that profile that resonated with me:
Neither the financial collapse nor the fundamentally broken health care system were abstracts for Ocasio-Cortez, a vocal supporter of Medicare for All and a persistent critic of the Affordable Care Act. “The main reason why I feel comfortable saying that the ACA has failed is because it failed me and it failed everyone that I worked with in a restaurant,” she says. She would take wads of cash tips to doctor appointments. “You try buying insurance off of Obamacare,” she tells me, a line meant for her out-of-touch colleagues. (As a bartender, she did buy a plan, paying $200 per month, she says, for the “privilege” of an $8,000 deductible.) For a while after she was sworn in, even with a snazzy congressional insurance plan, Ocasio-Cortez says, she still rolled to the pharmacy and paid cash for her prescriptions out of habit. The first time she saw a doctor or dentist in years was when she became a congresswoman.
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Under a President Biden, “if his life doesn’t feel different,” she points to a cab driver whizzing by our table, “if their life doesn’t feel different,” she gestures to people walking by the beauty shop and Bengali Halal Grocery, “if these people’s lives don’t actually feel different”—now she is giving a stump speech over her omelet—“we’re done. You know how many Trumps there are in waiting?”She is tired of incremental change, of “bullshit little 10 percent tax cuts,” she says. “I think, honestly, a lot of my dissent within the Democratic party comes from my lived experience. It’s not just that we can be better, it’s that we have to be better. We’re not good enough right now.”
She is tired of incremental change, of “bullshit little 10 percent tax cuts,” she says. “I think, honestly, a lot of my dissent within the Democratic party comes from my lived experience. It’s not just that we can be better, it’s that we have to be better. We’re not good enough right now.”
― jaymc, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
^It’s honestly shocking to me that mainstream democrats in 2020 can’t just say **that**
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link
honestly the stodgy method of politician-speak is played in 2020, which is one of the few things Trump and some other Republicans have hit on.
nobody wants to hear their democratic Senator say "I am troubled by this undemocratic acquiescence to a foreign power", they want to hear "aw naw, this is some BULLSHIT!"
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link
otm
― a certain derecho (brownie), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link
It’s honestly shocking to me that mainstream democrats in 2020 can’t just say **that**
They can’t because they don’t agree with her, though.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
Still, Ocasio-Cortez rejects the idea of "aspiring to a quote-unquote higher position just for the sake of that title," she said. "I think it's part of our cultural understanding of politics, where — if you think someone is great, you automatically think they should be president," Ocasio-Cortez added. "I joke. I'm like, 'Is Congress not good enough?'"
Of course she is shy about it and it's a long way off but I sure as hell hope to be able to vote for her someday.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link
she should 100% primary schumer in 2022
― cointelamateur (m bison), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link
Yeah I’d love to vote for her for pres but I wouldn’t be mad at all if she were to garrote Schumer in a primary challenge and then go on to be our longest-serving Senate Majority Leader
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
if only that was how Majority Leader worked
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 October 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
true. but in my dreamworld someone like Schumer being successfully primaried might put the fear into the dorks. but I suspect he reality would be quite different, particularly in the near term
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link
I don't think primarying Schumer in '22 would end well.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link
what if she punks him out and he retires rather than suffer the humiliation
― cointelamateur (m bison), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link
jk he wouldn’t
In a difficult midterm election where they want to keep Biden's suburban Republicans on their side the machine isn't going to give an inch to challengers, they'd pour money into primarying her (or anyone else who tried) at the same time.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 28 October 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link
Ilhan Omar has a 17 year old kid ??!?!?!?
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 29 October 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link
Astounding
I presume you all do understand that if AOC were to primary Schumer and then become Senator AOC, she would not inherit Schumer's power as Leader, but would be the least senior Senator on any committee she sat on. The Senate Dems would just elect a new Leader who'd almost certainly be another geriatric status quo Senator from who knows where.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 29 October 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link
yeah she rules
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:00 (three years ago) link
xpost Senate Majority Leader.........Diane Feinstein
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:05 (three years ago) link
yeah ftr I do understand that taking out Schumer doesn’t mean you assume his role as Leader.maybe a celebrity could primary Chuckles
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link
30 years from now our Majority Leader will be Senator Jack Black
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Wednesday, October 28, 2020 10:59 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
primary them too
― cointelamateur (m bison), Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link
^ now yer on the right track. especially if the better candidate goes on to win the seat. this has got to develop into a national movement to give voters better choices, no matter which states now appear hopeless. there is strength in numbers and progressive voters in places like WY need a way to be counted, so their true numbers can be seen, no matter what that number may be.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 29 October 2020 04:16 (three years ago) link
yeah ftr I do understand that taking out Schumer doesn’t mean you assume his role as Leader.
this only works if you drink your enemies' blood from his skull iirc
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 29 October 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link
💯% worth it, would do again https://t.co/0crlR7eXWT— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) October 29, 2020
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
I mean yeah, isn't that called WINNING?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
Pff, Trump would have walked out wearing the clothes because he's *smart.*
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
lol there was some hater talking about how that means she's a fake leftist and like 1) no one owns the clothes they wear in a cover shot, 2) people who key in on nice clothes or nice food as the focus of their opprobrium are horrible idiots, espoecially when the 630 billionaires in the us can each presumably buy at least 71428 of those outfits.
― Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
"But aren't those TOPPINGS on your pizza?!"
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
truffle fries iirc
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 29 October 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
They've tried the expensive clothing/haircut/etc. line for two straight years - I don't think it even seems to work with their base? Laura Ingraham was contractually obligated to tweet that but even she knows it's a dud.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link
"She looks nice" is not really the strongest line of attack.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
Nothing that throws mud at your target is a dud, no matter how tiny the amount that sticks, because the right will keep throwing it, every hour of every day, and the effect is cumulative. If you keep it up constantly enough then it all devolves into a vague cloud of negativity than hangs about your target in the minds of your audience, as "I've heard so many bad things about her some of it must be true."
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
"She dressed up" for a public appearance is not "so many bad things," though. This isn't 'being involved in shady land deals' shit.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
If the frame around it is cast as reflecting poorly on her character, it is filed under 'bad thing' in your brain, even if you aren't really paying much attention because it doesn't seem important. The framing plays to your emotional response and emotions play a key role in how facts are perceived and recalled. Even a weak smear, weakly received, reinforces the negative emotional aura around AOC. They do this shit because it works.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 29 October 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link
Honestly I think this line of attack is pure sexual anxiety aimed at people who feel attracted to her and need to form a theory of how they've been tricked into doing so.
They need a healthy way of dealing with these feelings like posting to the "ws of shame" thread.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
There was a tankie dude on Twitter going after a random woman a few months ago for making a nice-looking charcuterie board out of meats and cheeses she bought at Aldi because she was privileging bourgeoisie aesthetics so I wouldn't have been surprised if that tweet had come from a left-wing guy and not a right-wing woman
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link
I've posted this before but I think lot of the weak attacks on AOC really do stem from the fact that they like her so much and would kill to have anyone like that in their party
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link
a tankie dude on Twitter going after a random woman a few months ago for making a nice-looking charcuterie board out of meats and cheeses she bought at Aldi
I want to preserve this clause
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
The attack tweet about expensive clothes that AOC was responding to was from Laura Ingraham, who doesn't attack AOC because she is jealous of her, but because she is a professional operative carrying out a program of deliberate propaganda against AOC and the left.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
"Leftie likes expensive stuff" is an evergreen right wing attack
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link
right but there is a reason so much of that propaganda focuses on one particular person
― frogbs, Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
Alfred it was funny as hell:
i never thought i'd see the day when neatly assembling deli meats and cheeses with a bit of bread on a flat surface was deemed "unethical rich people food" but here we are pic.twitter.com/c716WAPe8M— Elizabeth May (on semi-hiatus) (@_ElizabethMay) August 4, 2020
― shout-out to his family (DJP), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
Socialist Bernie Sanders Wears a $700 Jacket While Complaining About Rich PeopleBy Maria Perez On 1/2/18 at 7:14 PM EST
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:44 (three years ago) link
Wow I’m fancy as fuck cuz I love a charcuterie board too! Xp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:45 (three years ago) link