What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

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ok, enough is enough. she gets a thread.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:20 (one year ago) link

haha nice callback title

sleeve, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:21 (one year ago) link

cool now we have four US politics threads

legislative fanboy halfwit (Οὖτις), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:21 (one year ago) link

She's fairly disrespectful to our president, for a start.

But people get sick on earth in their human form (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:22 (one year ago) link

she's so awesome she makes everyone else look bad

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:22 (one year ago) link

excellent title

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:22 (one year ago) link

if people don't want to use it, they won't

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:22 (one year ago) link

xp

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:23 (one year ago) link

sharp knees

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:23 (one year ago) link

american

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If she's able to maintain her political stance (and especially if she winds up being an effective legislator) I would be very comfortable casting a prez vote for her once she's eligible to run.

But people get sick on earth in their human form (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:25 (one year ago) link

i think she's wonderful. one thing i especially like about her is that she seems adept at forming a posse of like-minded legislators. she's good at sharing her political fame and recognition and using it to boost others.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:26 (one year ago) link

in before someone suggests she's nominated for president
xp fuck just missed it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:26 (one year ago) link

name has 5-4-2 syllable pattern: last name should have three syllables

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:26 (one year ago) link

left-handed, so she's pretty much limited to 1B or the outfield

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:27 (one year ago) link

Alexandria / Ocasio-Cortez is / a living haiku.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:27 (one year ago) link

the main reason for this thread is that she is an excellent twitterer, so maybe her daily handful of zings can go here instead of the other threads.

however, if i worry about anything with AOC, it's that one day she's going to slip up in some major way, probably on twitter. the right wing is foaming at the mouth to take her down because they recognize what a beacon she's already become.

buuuuut, the great thing about AOC is that i would have more confidence in her than just about anyone else to bounce back quickly from a hypothetic major twitter fuckup. as our wise president says "we'll see what happens"

Karl Malone, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:29 (one year ago) link

Left-handed? Excellent.

suzy, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:38 (one year ago) link

yeah i was going to say how bad can she really fuck up on twitter that will make what these assholes say about here matter to anyone but them?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:39 (one year ago) link

about her*

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:39 (one year ago) link

She cares too much

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:40 (one year ago) link

her ability to get the right to constantly self-own without even doing anything is incredible. at first I thought the "they're terrified of her" thing was overblown but they clearly are. not just because she's so far left but also because I don't think she's willing to "play ball" the way people like Schumer and Obama were. plus the fact that she's young and massively popular will only encourage more like her to come out of the woodwork which could shape US politics for decades to come. she's only been in office for a month but she already feels like an icon.

frogbs, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:44 (one year ago) link

God, does this woman have a gazillions tons of hope resting on her shoulders or what?

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:48 (one year ago) link

I look forward to many years of right-wing sputtering about the outrageous policy positions of this lefty commie socialist who okay is very attractive but that's not the point because she's going to destroy this country perhaps even with her smoldering good looks.

But people get sick on earth in their human form (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:48 (one year ago) link

I think the biggest thing she can achieve, especially in the near term, is to inspire more like minded young politicians to run.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:50 (one year ago) link

however, if i worry about anything with AOC, it's that one day she's going to slip up in some major way, probably on twitter. the right wing is foaming at the mouth to take her down because they recognize what a beacon she's already become.

they already have. You should read "smart" conservatives like Charles Cooke and Noah Rothman patiently explaining like Paul Muni as Zola how her plans are untenable. They don't get how she's using conservative methods since the Reagan-Poppy era: float a trial balloon, then watch as people accommodate.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:50 (one year ago) link

she came out too fully formed as an awesome politician and therefore must actually be either an alien or a veteran operative in disguise

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:50 (one year ago) link

fwiw I maintain muted expectations about what she can actually achieve in the system but so far she has exceeded them

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:51 (one year ago) link

https://libcom.org/news/abolishing-ice-funding-it-07012019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:51 (one year ago) link

she's already exceeded expectations. no one was talking about a Green New Deal or a 70% top rate before she came along.

frogbs, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:52 (one year ago) link

imo her strength so far has been to say exactly enough, or to respond with tongue-in-cheek fact checks about her stances without jumping into clusterfucks

having someone with actual policy stances without a political or even social past deep enough to sabotage dialogue in favor of ad hominem attacks is a net positive. media and public commentary almost demands a personality or face to link policy to, because policy is abstract and complicated and presenting an individual makes the job easier. if she's that person, have at it

it's a refreshing change from the right-wing version in the tea party goons, who had notional policy ideas and were 90% horrible personality and demagoguery

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:53 (one year ago) link

https://libcom.org/news/abolishing-ice-funding-it-07012019

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, February 7, 2019 1:51 PM (forty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is kind of bullshitty. She voted for the bill to reopen govt.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:53 (one year ago) link

btw it does pain me to bring up the "Trump of the left" thing but it does occur to me that she's *actually* good at all the political stuff that people thought Trump was good at

frogbs, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:54 (one year ago) link

xp

This was not a catch-all bill to reopen the federal government, which has been shut down for weeks while Trump refuses to sign a budget until he gets funding for a border wall. That was a different vote. No, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi scheduled an entirely separate vote solely on funding the Department of Homeland Security.

sleeve, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:54 (one year ago) link

Alfred's post reminds me of an article about perpetual ratfucker Gingrich, who was wildly successful at his goals until the day he wasn't

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:55 (one year ago) link

iirc she has changed her tack on how she votes for bills like that one. she recently was the sole dem holdout on another funding bill I believe?

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:56 (one year ago) link

yeah I was gonna say that libcom link falls more under "legit critique of a particular action" than a "flaw" and if she's already moved on from that stance then so much the better.

sleeve, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:58 (one year ago) link

the way Congress operates you kind of have to either vote for some bad things or not vote for some good things because it all comes in the same bill. I don't think she'd actually vote against abolishing ICE if such a thing were to come up.

frogbs, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:58 (one year ago) link

Cool thanks I wasn't really buying it too much (basically if you fuck with electoralism lib com goes after you)

But that's the only thing I've seen (and I almost always only entertain critiques of left-politicians from the left)

I was reading this piece on her call with Corbyn and she was swayed a bit on the allegations he is an anti-semite. That's more a product of doing too much twitter where everyone tweets to you with their agendas.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/02/how-to-think-clearly-about-anti-semitism-controversies-in-the-labour-party

But if the worst thing is that she might tweet something that isn't so good at times then she's doing amazing.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 February 2019 18:58 (one year ago) link

they already have. You should read "smart" conservatives like Charles Cooke and Noah Rothman patiently explaining like Paul Muni as Zola how her plans are untenable. They don't get how she's using conservative methods since the Reagan-Poppy era: float a trial balloon, then watch as people accommodate.

― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, February 7, 2019 1:50 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Trump methods too. You float something outrageous (end birthright citizenship), everyone goes "THAT'S PREPOSTEROUS" and then the "smart" and "reasonable" people say "well actually lots of countries don't have birthright citizenship at all." Now you've shifted the debate into your territory, and maybe you can't change the constitution in that particular case, but you've weakened resistance to tighter immigration laws.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:00 (one year ago) link

I realize a lot of people *say* that Trump does this, but I don't think that's true - were there not a bunch of so-called smart conservatives who insisted that the "wall" was just a metaphor for "strong border security", which he's rejected over and over again because he actually wants a big dumb physical wall?

frogbs, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:03 (one year ago) link

I'm still laughing at this tweet chain where her chief of staff was clued in not to take a meeting with known grifters (original post deleted but you get the jist)

This guy is a dingbat grifter, take the time to do 3 seconds of googling bro

— Dan (@dankmtl) February 4, 2019

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:03 (one year ago) link

man alive otm way upthread. It’s almost spooky how skilled and self assured she is this early in her career. Like a Mozart or Tiger Woods of politics.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:05 (one year ago) link

frogbs otm, that would be the real overton window shifting strategy, but Trump literally doesn't understand it and is obsessed with numbers

If he were to get six billion he's still not building a wall, he's saying "we built it" and just tossing the money at the border patrol/DHS and never calling them to check to see where it went

he's stuck on six billion = wall

mh, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:05 (one year ago) link

I realize a lot of people *say* that Trump does this, but I don't think that's true - were there not a bunch of so-called smart conservatives who insisted that the "wall" was just a metaphor for "strong border security", which he's rejected over and over again because he actually wants a big dumb physical wall?

― frogbs, Thursday, February 7, 2019 2:03 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Trump personally is a mental and emotional child. I mean Stephen Miller and the like.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:05 (one year ago) link

man alive otm way upthread. It’s almost spooky how skilled and self assured she is this early in her career. Like a Mozart or Tiger Woods of politics.

― Trϵϵship, Thursday, February 7, 2019 2:05 PM (fifteen seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I literally told a friend I thought she could be president back when we weren't even sure if she could win her primary. I don't attribute that to any special insight, it's plain to see.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:06 (one year ago) link

She’s actually impressive in an age of mass disillusionment.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:08 (one year ago) link

I mean decisively taking down a well-liked establishment dude like Crowley with like 5% of the funding and no corporate endorsements whatsoever is legit one of the most impressive political accomplishments I've ever witnessed

frogbs, Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:08 (one year ago) link

for sure

although "well-liked" might be a stretch -- I think he was a bit complacent and absent from his district, leaving more of an opening than realized. But def well-connected in queens overall. I mean, chair of the queens democratic party, mr. machine.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

I like her a lot and think she has a bright future, including a possible path to the presidency if she chooses to pursue it (which is a bit difficult to do from the House, historically). There is, of course, still plenty of time for her to flame out or not deliver on big legislative priorities, but so far she's been very sure-footed and she has excellent priorities and communications skills.

legislative fanboy halfwit (Οὖτις), Thursday, 7 February 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

remember when Whiney reamed forks over changing the title of the people that yelp thread

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 28 February 2020 20:33 (one month ago) link

good times y'all

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 28 February 2020 20:33 (one month ago) link

good times, good times

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 28 February 2020 20:34 (one month ago) link

Now delete all posts about thread name change so sic's post will look very Oliver Stone

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 February 2020 20:36 (one month ago) link

The 'flaws' have changed

Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Friday, 28 February 2020 20:39 (one month ago) link

fuck what did she do now

frogbs, Friday, 28 February 2020 20:44 (one month ago) link

she didn't know a science

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 28 February 2020 20:57 (one month ago) link

Now delete all posts about thread name change so sic's post will look very Oliver Stone

otm

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:06 (one month ago) link

lol this is now the best thread on the board

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:07 (one month ago) link

AOC would not spoon feed Ted Cruz his daily Campbell's Chunky Soup to him.

Yerac, Friday, 28 February 2020 21:10 (one month ago) link

i self-banned from *OC btw, DJP. you really should delete those posts. then i'll come waltzing in like nothing happened and resume at whatever letter we're at

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:11 (one month ago) link

then you can delete ^that^ post, and we'll be set!

but we should probably change the title of this thread too a few more times

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:12 (one month ago) link

Looking forward to "Why are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?"

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:13 (one month ago) link

moving the thread to an seldomly visited board would cover the Where, too

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:14 (one month ago) link

folks take it outside

What are "What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?"'s Flaws?

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:16 (one month ago) link

I submit that we rename this thread to "AOC #flawsome".

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:31 (one month ago) link

She be tossin, enforcin
Her style is flawsome

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:45 (one month ago) link

THEY SAY YOU’RE WEIRDO, WE SAY YOU ARE FLAWSOME!

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:49 (one month ago) link

The 'flaws' have changed

― Expart of Languidge (Old Lunch), Friday, February 28, 2020 3:39 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sadly overlooked gem right here.

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Friday, 28 February 2020 21:58 (one month ago) link

AOC: Does she floss?

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 28 February 2020 22:51 (one month ago) link

AOC: does she flaws?

wmlynch, Saturday, 29 February 2020 04:23 (one month ago) link

Thread title is fine. Going around changing original thread titles is always a bad look (unless it contains the word "retarded" as a joke.)

pplains, Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:20 (one month ago) link

was forks behind this

k3vin k., Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:19 (one month ago) link

I am AOC

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 1 March 2020 00:45 (one month ago) link

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: What Does She Know? Does She Know Things?? Let's Find Out!

☮️ (peace, man), Sunday, 1 March 2020 01:23 (one month ago) link

absolutely transfixed by this image of aoc and danny devito pic.twitter.com/DTqzyYDQ1o

— Marella Gayla (@MarellaGayla) March 5, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:04 (one month ago) link

"The Gang Joins the DSA"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 5 March 2020 19:13 (one month ago) link

"I'm gonna trip ballz"

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Friday, 6 March 2020 01:02 (one month ago) link

Hanging out with Danny DeVito, what a fucking elitist.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 March 2020 02:03 (one month ago) link

DeVito is in the eternal good books for murdering Antonin Scalia

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 6 March 2020 02:05 (one month ago) link

I wonder if he gave some shit to his old roomie for endorsing Bloomberg

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 6 March 2020 02:14 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Dozens of people, both workers& the incarcerated, have tested positive for COVID-19 on Rikers.

Many are forcibly cramped into close quarters. They do not have reliable access to soap or sanitizer. This is a humanitarian crisis.

Decarceral action must become an urgent priority. https://t.co/IDbNN3etew

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) March 25, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:28 (one week ago) link

Well according to a lot of those responses they should all just die. Nice country we have here tbh

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 12:32 (one week ago) link

Savage and cruel, but predictable.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:41 (one week ago) link

comments from Neera Tanden, Sean McElwee and James Carville, but nothing directly from AOC = not much use, imo.

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Monday, 30 March 2020 15:42 (one week ago) link

This seems like a classic case of damned if ya do.

AOC breaks norms and OMG SHE NEEDS TO SIT DOWN AND SHOW RESPECT.

she starts working within the system due to necessity and now she's a sellout.

W/e

narcissistic sleighride (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:34 (one week ago) link

The very definition of politics, I'd say (or least a political career).

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:36 (one week ago) link

yeah - way upthread somewhere i think i imagined the day (10-20 years from now, i speculated, i think) that most people on the left would look at AOC as a sell-out and a centrist. this kind of situation is kind of what i meant. step by step, she'll become a traitor to many who need perfection

Karl Malone, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:39 (one week ago) link

if AOC follows in Jayapal's mode of being uncompromising on policy while compromising on appearances there'll be no grounds for complaining

silby, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:40 (one week ago) link

ppl always find grounds for complaining

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:44 (one week ago) link

as may be.

silby, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:47 (one week ago) link

.@AOC: “No, if anything I’ve only gotten more ardent in my positions, but I do think it’s so funny that the same people who on one day are all like ‘keep your 3rd eye open; Manufacturing Consent!’ are the same ones who fall the fastest for these ploys to demoralize the Left.” pic.twitter.com/xdfbUc51F4

— 🥶 (@TheDailyKoko) April 1, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:07 (five days ago) link

how can you not love this

MFW I’ve done what feels like 800 livestreams, interviews, zoom calls, FB lives and IG stories this week and someone asks me to make a TikTok pic.twitter.com/YxZYCf9r4o

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) April 2, 2020

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 April 2020 15:56 (four days ago) link

loooool

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:03 (four days ago) link

I love how even then she's polite and open and funny in her personal response to the question "jk I'm open to it but kinda busy rn"

i think older folks underestimate the degree to which she is relatable to young people, compared to like, chuck grassley or all the ancient democrats. i would guess that people think "AOC is about 10x more relatable". no, incorrect. she is at least 4 trillion times more relatable. it's like they're on different planets

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:07 (four days ago) link

watching a senate committee hearing on anything relating to technology is like watching newsreels from the 1910s with ragtime music playing in the background

Karl Malone, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:08 (four days ago) link

otm

silby, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:08 (four days ago) link

I watched that AOC TikTok last night on the home computer, and the 10-year-old rushed in, going "Are you watching Tik-Tox!"

Then he made replay it like ten times.

pplains, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:36 (four days ago) link


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