2018's Oscar Nominees

that is an absolutely fucking dismal lineup

Not tbh quite as dire as the aging white dude takes on what a slate like this means for the future of Hollywood.

The Favorite, followed by BlacKKKlansman and Black Panther. Fuck the rest.

I’ve only seen Blackkklansman (good) and Roma (blah) and have zero interest in any of the others, so this was easy.

I’ve only seen Blackkklansman (good) and Roma (blah) and have zero interest in any of the others, so this was easy.

I’ve only seen Blackkklansman (good) and Roma (blah) and have zero interest in any of the others, so this was easy.

Sorry. Insert obvious The 1975 reference.

I have only seen Spike (6/10) and Lanthimos (5/10)

so i vote for Fassbinder miniseries

Berlin Alexanderplatz?

alien: covenant?

Eight Hours Do Not Make a Day

bind, don't bend

Quoting from someone on a different movie message board that kind of summed up where we are in Oscar history and why this slate, which actually covers a much wider territory than, say, any slate from the '80s or '90s in a sense, seems so wholly underwhelming.

I feel like we've been struggling most of this millennium trying to define what we want a best picture to be.

And to expand upon this idea a little bit further, it seems that different factions have emerged with wildly different ideas about what that should look like. Now, some will say, that's always been the case, and of course, you could easily go back to slates like 1967 and 1969 to see Best Picture nominees that were all over the map. But that did change for a while -- mostly beginning in the '80s -- because I look at a lot of slates from my formative Oscar-watching years, and I see a remarkable similarity among nominees -- think of the WWII/Elizabethan showdown in 1998, or years like 2005 or 2008, where every Best Picture nominee is of a very similar stripe (mostly period pieces and/or literary adaptations, dealing with significant social issues). This is not to say there wasn't a difference aesthetically between any of these nominees -- there's a pretty big gap in my mind between The Thin Red Line and Elizabeth, as there is between Milk and The Reader -- but superficially, they all feel like they belong together. They're the kind of films that a certain type of moviegoer isn't going to miss (despite varying degrees of success).

Cut to now. A Marvel superhero movie is a Best Picture nominee. So is a virtually plotless black-and-white Mexican art film. So is a crowd-pleasing remake of a nearly ninety year old story. So are a group of inventive, singular takes on the true-life historical piece. So is a historical piece that's about as traditional as they come. So is a badly reviewed blockbuster nominated simply because of how much money it made. These aren't just movies that appeal to differing sensibilities on a spectrum -- they're films made for different audiences entirely, and every one is eager for Oscar to put its stamp of approval on the film whose victory they deem most important for film culture, and well, culture period.

But this is BlacKkKlansman in a walk.

of the ones I've seen, Favourite >>>> ASIB > Roma > BP >>> Vice

fuck ever watching Green Book or Bohemian Rhapsody

Vice is even worse than Green Book or Bohemian Rhapsody.

BlacKkKlansman of the 3 I've seen, but I may hold off voting in case I can catch The Favourite next week.

I take the above poster's point about the variety of this year's BP nominees, and Roma, despite my personal feelings about it, is certainly an unusual film to be up for the top prize. But I still see a lineup of biopics, historical dramas, social issues and a throwback to old Hollywood, even if some of these particular takes are unique (not having seen The Favourite, I'm guessing its a different animal than Howards End). All the nomination of Black Panther does is remind me that Airport and The Towering Inferno were BP nominees.

gonna throw Spike a bone here

this really is the worst BP lineup in recent memory. Only ones I really liked were BlacKkKlansman and The Favourite.

A Star is Born was good for what it was. Green Book was good judged against 90s Farrelly Brothers comedies, but BP? Gtfo

I hated Roma and Vice.

Didn't see Black Panther or Bohemian Rhapsody.

lol I never even heard of Green Book before this thread

only two I have seen on this are BlacKKKlansman (p good) and Black Panther (fell asleep watching it on an airplane), and I feel safe in assuming the only other one I even want to see (The Favourite) is better than both of those lol

The Favourite >>> BlacKkKlansman >>>>>>>>>> Roma > Black Panther

Disbelief at Widows getting zero noms, i'll bet money that's the one that people lose their shit over in years to come, like Bo-Rap gets a bunch and Widows gets none? Fuck outta here. You have to wonder what world the Academy lives in where there's such a disparity between what the people like and what is considered to be good.

Decent list here of great movies that got no noms *at all*; Mean Streets, Groundhog Day, His Girl Friday, Harold And Maude, In The Mood For Love...

https://www.indiewire.com/2015/02/50-great-movies-that-were-not-nominated-for-any-oscars-266990/

voted for black panther, have only seen bo rhap, panther, and ASIB. need to see bkkk, roma, and favourite

you probably don't

Widows was completely pedestrian & didn't deserve any nominations. Neither did BoHo, but people certainly liked it more, or, more people liked it than Widows.

this is real fuckin rough

the favourite pretty easily

Ranking the ones I've seen

Roma
The Favorite
A Star Is Born
Blackkklansman
Green Book
Black Panther

they're all great to dece

challopsy!

really want to see The Favourite, the movie just looks like it's so lush and bizarre. And Rachel Weisz is super ill imo.

haven't seen The Favourite yet. Does it have the strange, dyspeptic quality of all of his other films? I enjoyed Dogtooth, Lobster, Sacred Deer

Sort of, but palatable enough to Academy voters.

i found his usual mode too diluted and swamped by lace here, but others differ

ie i saw his Kinetta from 14 years ago, a nascent work, on Sunday and it was better

xp

Roma
The Favourite
Blackkklansman
Black Panther

The other three are v much not my thing

Yeah, this is diluted Lanthimos, especially in the wake of Sacred Deer.

which is why it's the first film of his KJB didn't hate!

Yeah, this is diluted Lanthimos, especially in the wake of Sacred Deer.

― zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:35 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I expect another about face next year when he just films a vivisection for two and a half hours.

"Diluted" in the sense that costume dramas tend to dull sharp blades, but the fisheye and script compensate.

as you know, fisheye annoyed me endlessly

subversion was replaced with bitchiness

Roma
The Favorite
A Star Is Born
Blackkklansman
Green Book
Black Panther

they're all great to dece

― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:17 PM (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Can now add Vice and Bohemian Rhapsody to the bottom of this list and can also say that the latter is actively bad

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

saw all 8 of these in the last two weeks! (Roma again, this time in a theater)

Roma was the one for me, but I also really loved The Favourite, that final scene just wrapped it up so well I thought

Black Panther 7/10
BoRhap 6/10
Roma 6/10
Green Book 3/10 -- I only watched it because another movie was sold out

voted for The Favourite, which I haven't seen but I love the director's other movies.

everything about Roma was masterful I thought, it was beautiful. I loved the super long takes with slowly shifting camera. the story that seemed incidental at first slowly gathered heft, and the acting performances that felt remote on a tv screen were amazing to view in a theater

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

oh for fuck's sake by ONE vote?

Wow, the Oscar's board of directors was right! No one DOES care about the Oscars anymore.

ha ha!

If BlacKkKlansman can't do better than show here, I guess it really will end up going to Green Book or Roma.

yeah I think those are the two most likely to win. it would be awful if it were Green Book in my opinion

I guess The Favourite could be considered watered-down Lanthimos, but it was accessible and had a great screenplay, stellar acting, beautiful costumes and production design (those Hatfield House interiors were something), and amazing cinematography. It’s my favorite Lanthimos film yet

loved those fish-eye views of characters marching through corridors

all those candles. I kept thinking they were going to burn the place down

"fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck"