US Politics February 2019: This is one of the great losers of all time.

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“I lost massive amounts of money doing this job,” he said. “This is not the money. This is one of the great losers of all time. You know, fortunately, I don’t need money. This is one of the great losers of all time. But they’ll say that somebody from some country stayed at a hotel. And I’ll say, ‘Yeah.’ But I lose, I mean, the numbers are incredible.”

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 12:31 (five months ago) link

So, has anybody suggested he resign yet?

Stevolende, Friday, 1 February 2019 12:42 (five months ago) link

I did the other day

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 February 2019 12:59 (five months ago) link

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/427773-gop-poised-to-rebuke-trump
they're gonna write a sternly worded letter, i tell you what

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 13:02 (five months ago) link

Why do H4berman and crew still drag themselves to Trump and record and write down these words of lunacy?

Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 1 February 2019 13:05 (five months ago) link

Does he actually exude pheromones or something? Are aliens among us?
Hate to think of the guy as the first evil mutant or something.

Stevolende, Friday, 1 February 2019 13:07 (five months ago) link

Assuming news of who Jr called is accurate then congratulations, Trump team, this may be your first apparent exoneration in 2 years. Weird, though, how dad seems just as surprised as anyone else.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 13:20 (five months ago) link

Then again...

Wait wait wait. @DonaldJTrumpJr calling Howard Lorber, after his Trump Tower meeting with a Russian agent is supposed to be GOOD news for him?

Howard Lorber.

This Howard Lorber? pic.twitter.com/zE9cAbz5DG

— Eric Schmeltzer (@JustSchmeltzer) February 1, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 February 2019 13:33 (five months ago) link

Why do H4berman and crew still drag themselves to Trump and record and write down these words of lunacy?

http://skepchick.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/clicks.png

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 February 2019 13:52 (five months ago) link

hey, we're outta the nuke agreement

all part of Putin's plan

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 February 2019 14:03 (five months ago) link

On Christie book:
TRUMP: He was not nice to my people. Some of them. Some of them he was.
HABERMAN: Well your family, he was not totally nice to your family.
TRUMP: No, but he was unbelievably nice to me, actually.
HABERMAN: So, you’re fine with it?"https://t.co/qVgJIXEuVi

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) February 1, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:39 (five months ago) link

This is a very serious security situation we are creating by letting the Russians off the hook, perhaps opening the door to a 21st century arms race. Gotta admit that I did not expect to see the word "fantastic" in the statement about it. https://t.co/STuJ4DduGC

— Alexandra Bell (@atomicbell) February 1, 2019

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:54 (five months ago) link

Long term Bolton goal realized

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 1 February 2019 17:57 (five months ago) link

Standard negotiation strategy: set a timer for something to stop working

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 February 2019 18:42 (five months ago) link

Coulter just called her former hero a "lunatic"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 February 2019 19:05 (five months ago) link

Maybe she’s a single issue racist

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:06 (five months ago) link

love 2 see right wing infighting

sleeve, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:07 (five months ago) link

A subset of stupidity is made up of trump supporters who would abandon him because Ann Coulter said so

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:09 (five months ago) link

She was Deep State all along!

nickn, Friday, 1 February 2019 19:10 (five months ago) link

It's nice to a circular fire squad not involving Dems/leftists for once.

Stateleee, Plump Buck Mulleeegan (Leee), Friday, 1 February 2019 19:45 (five months ago) link

oh good

BREAKING: Gov. Ralph Northam yearbook page shows blackface and Klan photohttps://t.co/6A89ejp5Ho

— The Virginian-Pilot (@virginianpilot) February 1, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 1 February 2019 21:31 (five months ago) link

just teens being teens nbd

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 February 2019 21:34 (five months ago) link

he was 25

sans lep (sic), Friday, 1 February 2019 21:35 (five months ago) link

oh didn't even notice it was medical school year book

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 February 2019 21:35 (five months ago) link

it was the 80s man nbd

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 February 2019 21:36 (five months ago) link

is GOP angling to try and get him to resign or something

weird that this didn't come out ahead of the election tbh

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 21:40 (five months ago) link

GOP's oppo research is awful, look at all the Trump stuff they got absolutely blindsided with

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 21:54 (five months ago) link

idk what there is to say about this really apart from it's obviously racist, he should apologize for it, and then move on

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 21:56 (five months ago) link

Florida's secretary of state resigned last week after blackface photos emerged. Can't he resign? Is the lieutenant governor a Dem?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 February 2019 21:59 (five months ago) link

I imagine there was a renewed effort to dredge up dirt on Northam because of this nonsense: https://www.vox.com/2019/2/1/18205428/virginia-abortion-bill-kathy-tran-ralph-northam

simmy simmy ya, simmy yam simmy yay (voodoo chili), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:00 (five months ago) link

Yes, and african anerican

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:00 (five months ago) link

Xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:01 (five months ago) link

Wait, it's not even him? his yearbook photo is on a page across from the offensive stuff? why should he resign?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:02 (five months ago) link

oh, I see. it's on his personal page? ouch.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:04 (five months ago) link

what sort of yearbook editor even puts that photo in wtf

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:06 (five months ago) link

yeah, and in 1984.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:08 (five months ago) link

the year Revenge of the Nerds came out

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:09 (five months ago) link

anyway yeah idgaf about Northam, this guy seems fine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Fairfax

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:09 (five months ago) link

Fairfax gave the commencement speech at my nephew's graduation, he seems awesome - I was impressed

sleeve, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:13 (five months ago) link

you know maybe the GOP did find the photo but chose not to release it because they were afraid their base would vote for him instead

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:16 (five months ago) link

lol I had the same thought

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:17 (five months ago) link

"if our guys find out he's a racist, they might vote FOR him!"

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 22:17 (five months ago) link

lmao

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:24 (five months ago) link

Virginia's governors serve only one term (usually). So I guess this means Northam won't be a senator. Ok.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 February 2019 22:41 (five months ago) link

a lot of people have said there is nothing he can say to excuse that, but someone came up with a good one: "I am proud to have included in my yearbook a picture of the two racists I killed with my bare hands."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 February 2019 23:02 (five months ago) link

haha

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 February 2019 23:10 (five months ago) link

Northram's statement:

“Earlier today, a website published a photograph of me from my 1984 medical school yearbook in a costume that is clearly racist and offensive.

“I am deeply sorry for the decision I made to appear as I did in this photo and for the hurt that decision caused then and now.

“This behavior is not in keeping with who I am today and the values I have fought for throughout my career in the military, in medicine, and in public service. But I want to be clear, I understand how this decision shakes Virginians’ faith in that commitment.

“I recognize that it will take time and serious effort to heal the damage this conduct has caused. I am ready to do that important work. The first step is to offer my sincerest apology and to state my absolute commitment to living up to the expectations Virginians set for me when they elected me to be their Governor.”

I am deeply sorry for the decision I made to appear as I did in this photo and for the hurt that decision caused then and now. and I resign.

fixed

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:21 (five months ago) link

the silver lining in these poll numbers for Schultz is that he has so, so much room to grow

These numbers almost defy belief. Everybody thinks Howard Schultz sucks. https://t.co/CuXPangLDy pic.twitter.com/RcRlJg5pcw

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) February 2, 2019

Karl Malone, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:27 (five months ago) link

It’s a breathtaking failure to read the room

rob, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:29 (five months ago) link

a costume that is clearly racist and offensive

He should have to specify which one!

jmm, Saturday, 2 February 2019 00:32 (five months ago) link

this thread could use some McLachlan imo

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 28 February 2019 21:53 (four months ago) link

is wohl going to experience no fallout from trying to set up mueller?

my future think tank (stevie), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:10 (four months ago) link

all you need to do is re-listen to Possession by Sarah McLachlan and it's pretty clear!

all you need to do is re-listen to Possession by Sarah McLachlan and it's pretty clear!

Gaseous Clay (Leee), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:11 (four months ago) link

ARGH, I meant to do this hilarious thing:

is wohl going to experience no fallout from trying to set up mueller?

all you need to do is re-listen to Possession by Sarah McLachlan and it's pretty clear!

Gaseous Clay (Leee), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:12 (four months ago) link

march thread title

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:12 (four months ago) link

Even funnier

Mark G, Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:24 (four months ago) link

The Curse Of The Double C'N'P.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:33 (four months ago) link

tbf I have that loaded on my clipboard at all times

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:36 (four months ago) link

Meantime

EXCLUSIVE: The White House chief of staff at the time, John Kelly, wrote a contemporaneous internal memo about how he had been “ordered” by the president to give Jared Kushner the top-secret clearance. w/@maggieNYT @adamgoldmanNYT @anniekarni https://t.co/cDkJjvVzgh

— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) February 28, 2019

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:38 (four months ago) link

all this stuff would be enough to impeach like sixteen democratic presidents

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:53 (four months ago) link

Is that the going conversion rate?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:54 (four months ago) link

you know the 1000s of impeachable things we've learned about over the past couple years?

every single one of them are fake news

Karl Malone, Thursday, 28 February 2019 22:56 (four months ago) link

It’s such a fucking joke

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:00 (four months ago) link

I kinda like how people are saying nothing has happened when people are, you know, in jail and/or pled guilty and all.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:10 AM

who is actually serving sentenced time in jail at this moment?

sold out in presale (sleeve), Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:01 (four months ago) link

ahhhh, yes, john kelly, i forgot about him. he was the serious grownup who was going to get trump to shape up and fly straight, right?

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:01 (four months ago) link

xp C'mon Sleeve, Manafort ain't in jail already for shits and giggles.

Speaking of people who in fact will be heading there anyway:

https://variety.com/2019/politics/news/michael-cohen-return-capitol-hill-testimony-1203152436/

Donald Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen wrapped up three days of testimony on Capitol Hill on Thursday with a commitment to return.

After spending much of the day testifying in closed session before the House Intelligence Committee, Cohen told reporters that he will be back on March 6 because “there is more to discuss.”

“It was very productive,” he said. “As I said, I am committed to telling the truth.”

House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff said that the following week, on March 14, real estate developer Felix Sater will appear before the committee in an open session to talk about negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Cohen has said that he discussed the proposed development with Trump and his family members well into the 2016 presidential campaign.

Schiff declined to talk about the substance of Thursday’s hearing, but said that Cohen “was fully cooperative and answered all of our questions.”

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:14 (four months ago) link

Ned I said "sentenced" not "pending sentencing" - afaik nobody has been sentenced yet, and that's when we'll see pardons.

sold out in presale (sleeve), Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:17 (four months ago) link

I have my doubts.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:21 (four months ago) link

I have my doubts.

As do I. Trump won't pardon anyone if he doesn't think it will benefit him personally and directly. As Cohen pointed out, he is neither generous nor loyal, he will only act that way when he thinks it is in his interest to appear so. Generosity and loyalty are for losers.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:25 (four months ago) link

And are things he is to receive from others... or else!

Evan, Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:26 (four months ago) link

Trump has fewer friends than he does scruples...I really doubt he *won't* pardon Manafort and Stone, and obviously he'll pardon his kids

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:34 (four months ago) link

He'll pardon his kids and the Republicans will say it was out of the tender loving feelings of a father, and who among us can blame him?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:50 (four months ago) link

i don't have kids, so i can

mookieproof, Thursday, 28 February 2019 23:59 (four months ago) link

pardons to date

Joe Arpaio Criminal contempt of court
Kristian Saucier Unauthorized possession and retention of national defense information
Scooter Libby Perjury and obstruction of justice
Jack Johnson being black
Dinesh D'Souza Campaign finance violations/asshattery

Dwight Lincoln Hammond, Jr. arson
Steven Dwight Hammond arson

Drumstick turkey
Wishbone turkey
Peas turkey
Carrots turkey

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 1 March 2019 00:02 (four months ago) link

Useful overview of the prep done by AOC and others yesterday.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/28/politics/cohen-democrats-hearing-questions/index.html

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:08 (four months ago) link

Bernie posted this to Facebook:

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/to-revive-rural-america-we-must-fix-our-broken-food-system/

How broken is our economy when conservative publications are arguing for better anti-trust enforcement?

DJI, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:40 (four months ago) link

re pardons: there will be so many Lib Tears and that's the thing that keeps those rallies full

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 1 March 2019 02:45 (four months ago) link

Ironically, a Trump pardon of Manafort would extinguish Manafort’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Accordingly, once pardoned, Mueller could force Manafort to take the witness stand in future trials against other probe targets and compel him to testify.

OK this might be a fair trade

I agree that the state angle has the most potential to create actual jail time

sold out in presale (sleeve), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:47 (four months ago) link

From Neanderthal's linked story:

As a former career prosecutor, I would argue that this is a pardon bridge too far, as a president should not be able to exercise his pardon power to curry favor with witnesses who, if not pardoned, could be his downfall. However, that issue, if it comes to fruition, can only be resolved by the U.S. Supreme Court.

If the SCOTUS reads the US constitution correctly, they would kick this straight to Congress, who can impeach and convict a sitting president for "high crimes and misdemeanors", whereas the constitution places no other limit on the pardon power of a president. Abuse of power is the central "high crime and misdemeanor" they had in mind.

Like it or not, this is the only reading that makes sense. It emerged from the conviction of the original authors that Congress would be comprised of 'only the best people', true gentlemen of honor, and "factions" (political parties) would not control Congress, instead pure principle would be the sole motivation. As they saw it, Congress would naturally be sensitive to any serious abuse of power, which would instantly brand the president as a danger to the nation, compelling them as gentlemen of principle to impeach and convict him. They were wrong about factions and 'only the best people', but their error is still enshrined in the document they wrote and we must follow those rules until another set overrides the current ones.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:54 (four months ago) link

Now we know why Jared Kushner still has a security clearance: Trump allegedly ordered it despite the red flags raised by the CIA and FBI and White House lawyers. Career security clearance professionals believed Jared Kushner was enough of a national security risk that he should not get a top secret clearance.

And now I have a message for our national security, defense and intelligence community: Do not share top secret information with Jared Kushner. Trust the career professionals. Do the right thing. Your loyalty is to America, not to Kushner or Trump.

https://lieu.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/rep-lieu-statement-nytimes-story-jared-kushners-security-clearance

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 March 2019 04:47 (four months ago) link

kushner always looks like he's zoned out on a new drug that no one else has tried

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 March 2019 05:53 (four months ago) link

this is the MOU thing from the other day:

https://youtu.be/yaWa61AyT3g

it's whatever, everyone knows he's a dumbass. but it's pathetic how trump doesn't even realize that his trade negotiator is basically saying "i have to do what the dumb man says, please ignore him" - he doesn't even notice

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 March 2019 06:57 (four months ago) link

in other news, check out trump's recent national emergency press conference:

Before we begin, I would like to say that we have a large team of very talented people in China. We have had a negotiation going on for about two days. It’s going extremely well—who knows what that means because it only matters if we get it done, but we are very much working very closely with China and President Xi who I respect a lot, very good relationship that we have. And we are a lot closer than we ever were in this country with having a real trade deal.

When can we expect to see the Trans-Pacific Partnership—the TPP, if indeed it ever happens—be signed into law? We will see. There is a negotiation—a working agreement between the parties that we expect to get signed. China is in the process of developing many other free, open and transparent trade agreements, they will have to deal with these before we come to signing any deal, like the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership, which was finalized last week.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership is actually an economic partnership between all stakeholders, all businesses. The purpose of this trade agreement is to create the best trade relationship for China. They have a great economic relationship. I think the one of the things they have done—I know you guys have been saying for about eight months that they had nothing to do with it, because it is already signed. And they are on the verge of coming up with another trade agreement. At this moment you know the Obama administration has decided if that will ever happen—there is concern that China—if they do become a WTO member they will be given a trade deal that is unfair to our economy, it will not be a fair deal for the American people, it will not be a safe deal. And the President of China, we do think they will be given a deal that makes things worse but we do look forward to coming to the negotiating table. That is what I would like to see..

just kidding. the first paragraph is trump, the other two is the result of a text generation system, not even the best version of it, just the limited version: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/02/twenty-minutes-into-the-future-with-openais-deep-fake-text-ai

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 March 2019 07:12 (four months ago) link

That article is fascinating and hilarious. "GOAT DICK-IN-THE-BOY BOY" would be a great thread title for ... something.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 March 2019 13:08 (four months ago) link

Maybe "They want to take away your hamburgers" for March title. Nothing really good is coming to mind.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Friday, 1 March 2019 13:11 (four months ago) link

"You just keep killing it"

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 1 March 2019 13:18 (four months ago) link

Good morning!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 March 2019 13:19 (four months ago) link

We still here?

Mark G, Friday, 1 March 2019 14:15 (four months ago) link

I am glad Biden canceled himself so I don't have to do it.

Yerac, Friday, 1 March 2019 14:22 (four months ago) link

his is the MOU thing from the other day:

https://youtu.be/yaWa61AyT3g

it's whatever, everyone knows he's a dumbass. but it's pathetic how trump doesn't even realize that his trade negotiator is basically saying "i have to do what the dumb man says, please ignore him" - he doesn't even notice

― Karl Malone, Friday, March 1, 2019 1:57 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was thinking about this after I watched it, that dunking on Trump for this particular flavor of idiocy is probably suboptimal because how many Americans know what an MOU is? Ideally, we would have a president who is smarter than the average bear, but I feel like a lot of the time when Trump's idiocy gets "exposed" it more just shows he's roughly as aware of the world around him as most of the people he represents, which again is hardly ideal, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people see him get owned for not knowing bureaucratic mechanisms or the history of various foreign actors and feel attacked by proxy because they don't know either.

This is a long way of saying that I think people, and particularly people who are running against him, should focus on mocking Trump for dumb shit he says that proves he's a rich, out-of-touch weirdo rather than a garden variety moron. Like that whole thing where he thought you needed to show ID to buy a loaf of bread, now that was the good stuff.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:02 (four months ago) link

I was thinking about this after I watched it, that dunking on Trump for this particular flavor of idiocy is probably suboptimal because how many Americans know what an MOU is? it's not so bad that he didn't know it's that the guy explained it to him simply and he still didnt fucking get it . I do tend to agree with the strategy you are proposing here though

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:12 (four months ago) link

another good example is this gem:

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/20/trump-thinks-young-people-pay-12-for-health-insurance.html

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:20 (four months ago) link

new thred my dudes

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:36 (four months ago) link

US Politics March 2019: when established crooks return under a new username

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:37 (four months ago) link

lol

sold out in presale (sleeve), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:37 (four months ago) link

I'm not gonna be the one to start the new thread, I can't handle the pressure of picking the right title.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:52 (four months ago) link

Done. Thanks for the suggestions!

Mods...?

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 March 2019 15:56 (four months ago) link


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