THE FAVOURITE, a film by Yorgos Lanthimos

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Hoping to get to it this weekend. Til then:

His films often fare better with professional critics, who regularly apply words like “ingenious” and “masterpiece” to his work and praise his deadpan wit. But Lanthimos detests the word “deadpan,” which appears in almost every review of his work. “What does it even mean?” he asked me. “Anytime people see an emotion that is not extremely emotional, they call it ‘deadpan.’ ” He sounded a bit affronted as he said this. “Most acting is very melodramatic,” he added. “It’s not what you see in people.”...

He likes to shoot with natural light, inviting the contingency of unplanned weather to enter his scenes, and he rarely makes use of the expensive cinematic lighting that productions order by default. “I do walk outside and see the lighting people, the equipment just sitting around,” he says. “It’s such a waste of their time, of the film’s money.” He steers clear of movie makeup, preferring to let the “real face” of his actors show through, unadulterated, the hair unfussy and requiring little touch-up work. One consequence of these decisions is that his sets are unusually quiet and intimate, and without setting up lights or pausing to reapply makeup, he explains, they are able to get much more of the actual work done. “We can do the scene over and over again, immediately, nobody has to stand around waiting. And the actors love it.”

The atmosphere he creates has more in common with an experimental theater troupe than a typical multimillion-dollar movie set. Lanthimos works to bring an actor’s instincts to the surface — and he shrugs off questions about a character’s psychological motivation, back story and context as effortlessly as he does questions about himself. “If you want to [expletive] annoy him, ask him character back-story questions,” Colin Farrell told me, laughing, of his first experience working with Lanthimos on the set of “The Lobster,” where Lanthimos refused to tell him what happened in the scene before the one they were filming. “He doesn’t really feel the need, you know. For him a story is born and dies between the first and last page.” Lanthimos is “trying to give space to mystery,” Ariane Labed, his wife, told me. “Yorgos does not explain things, even to the actors really, and they’re not used to that. But then they go through this experience, and they discover that having gaps in their characters’ journeys, they actually have more room for their own imaginations, [their] own mistakes, [their] own doubts, and I think that’s why actors are amazing in Yorgos’s films. They’re on the line.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/21/magazine/yorgos-lanthimoss-director-favourite.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:56 (three months ago) Permalink

It's fun, closer to Derek Jarman than any stiff costume pick and more fun than Jarman.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:01 (three months ago) Permalink

what is this one about?

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:01 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm not plowing through all that stupid NYT puffery

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:01 (three months ago) Permalink

it's about 120 minutes

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:02 (three months ago) Permalink

also Queen Anne and the machinations of her female lover and a court newcomer

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:03 (three months ago) Permalink

"Lesbian love triangle costume piece" was something I read, somewhere, recently. Trailer confirmed, sort of. Really looking forward to it.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:04 (three months ago) Permalink

it's about 120 minutes

I can hear your eyebrows waggling

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:05 (three months ago) Permalink

It's never dull and recognizably Lanthimos. The Queen Anne era is obscure t m, which helped.

Absolutely vile era for men's periwigs and makeup. Nicholas Hoult remains a dish, though.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:07 (three months ago) Permalink

*to me

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:07 (three months ago) Permalink

that's strange i glued them down before i left the house

xxp

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:08 (three months ago) Permalink

You'll learn lessons watching this thing.

I like queer. You like queer, senator? (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:10 (three months ago) Permalink

lesbian ones?

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 22:13 (three months ago) Permalink

xp boys: Having read most of http://www.frockflicks.com/, I can only gather the ladies love full bottomed wigs and rouge on boys. While I've yet to see it theatrically, reviews indicate that every male herein is a buffoon (in accord with experience) and that the ladies are quick witted and foul mouthed, which is fairly in accord with my contemporary experience. Also from the aforementioned site the costumes by multiple Oscar winner Sandy Powell all appear to be accurate for their era.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 29 November 2018 00:35 (three months ago) Permalink

I liked this a lot, my favorite Lanthimos other than The Lobster. It ended pretty abruptly, but that final shot was something else. That bunny at the end was funny, him prodding / teasing the audience a year after Sacred Deer.

I hope he keeps this streak up, I love that he's done three films in three years. Someone has to take up Woody Allen's mantle lol

flappy bird, Sunday, 9 December 2018 01:13 (three months ago) Permalink

So stoked to see this

flopson, Sunday, 9 December 2018 01:21 (three months ago) Permalink

Very comfortably the worst of Lanthimos' last five films, but it's in English, has a couple movie stars, a promo budget, and was shot in castles, so it gets the audience. I hate American culture.

MVP: Nicholas Hoult, who has several comic line readings worthy of the late great Peter Cook.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 December 2018 06:36 (three months ago) Permalink

also Yorg, lose the fucking fish-eye lens.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 December 2018 06:42 (three months ago) Permalink

I don't know that Olivia Colman, Rachel Weisz and Emma Stone are bigger stars than Colin Farrell, Rachel Weisz and Olivia Colman? It's 100% the setting (and of course being in the right language)

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 22 December 2018 10:59 (three months ago) Permalink

i think emma stone pulls a lot more weight in 2018 than those other names

devvvine, Saturday, 22 December 2018 11:58 (three months ago) Permalink

Very comfortably the worst of Lanthimos' last five films, but it's in English, has a couple movie stars, a promo budget, and was shot in castles, so it gets the audience.

All true. So you liked it?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2018 12:37 (three months ago) Permalink

Some good calls here. I did like it, but The Death of Stalin was a better black comedy about court intrigue.

I Feel Bad About My Butt (j.lu), Saturday, 22 December 2018 13:30 (three months ago) Permalink

ok, movie stars doing *some* more suitably movie starrish things, rather than having their hands plunged into toasters.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:01 (three months ago) Permalink

I liked it better than Deer but not by much. And yeah agreed w Morbs re the fisheye

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:11 (three months ago) Permalink

Fisheye was effective.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:13 (three months ago) Permalink

It's my least favorite Lanthimos and won't come close to a list of 2018's best but it works as sapphic Merchant Ivory.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:15 (three months ago) Permalink

Effective at what??? He used it seemingly randomly.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:31 (three months ago) Permalink

Lanthimos prefers animals to people (and why not?), and the fisheye stuff accepts this phantasmagoric world as seen from the sensibility of a rabbit or lobster.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:42 (three months ago) Permalink

There's a case to be made there. I mostly took it as "this ain't your momma's period piece!" signposting

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:49 (three months ago) Permalink

i liked this movie a lot. haven't seen any of his others but i dug how cold and emotionally distant it was. watching people carry out intrigues, not identifying with them but being fascinated by them. and it looked great.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 22 December 2018 17:48 (three months ago) Permalink

I was more annoyed by his gliding drone cam, this had some of that but like half of Sacred Deer used it

flappy bird, Saturday, 22 December 2018 17:55 (three months ago) Permalink

re: fisheye

Lanthimos talks about it here around the 12 minute mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9CT-dLPTkY

He says it reminded him of the convex mirrors in Dutch paintings from the 17th century.

Anyway, I liked the fisheye lens and I loved this movie.

Darin, Saturday, 29 December 2018 18:22 (two months ago) Permalink

says it reminded him of the convex mirrors in Dutch paintings from the 17th century.

Yep -- I mentioned Parmigianino in my own review.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 December 2018 18:36 (two months ago) Permalink

A very important film about ladies falling over in very big dresses. After seeing it I watched the lobster and the other one but apart from the scene where the maid is voguing they are a waste of time. People who claim to be more interested in animals than people are so boring and should also make films about or for animals instead.

plax (ico), Sunday, 30 December 2018 00:32 (two months ago) Permalink

lmao "the other one"

flappy bird, Sunday, 30 December 2018 00:50 (two months ago) Permalink

I liked The Lobster three years ago and The Favourite three weeks ago so watched the other one last night and yeah, nah.

sans lep (sic), Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:22 (two months ago) Permalink

The Killing... works better as a satire for viewers who come from seriously dysfunctional families. I cackled through the ending.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 30 December 2018 02:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Looking forward to seeing this (The Favourite) again early in the new year.

I thought this was funny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbC0xszlyHo

flappy bird, Sunday, 30 December 2018 04:09 (two months ago) Permalink

People who claim to be more interested in animals than people are so boring and should also make films about or for animals instead.

― plax (ico), Saturday, December 29, 2018 7:32 p.m.

ftr we're animals

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 December 2018 12:40 (two months ago) Permalink

for restrained Lanthimos, see his last Greek film Alps

Dogtooth still reigns

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 30 December 2018 14:59 (two months ago) Permalink

is Alps streaming or available digitally? there was never a Region 1 home video release.

flappy bird, Sunday, 30 December 2018 20:16 (two months ago) Permalink

Amazon Prime

Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:09 (two months ago) Permalink

ayyyy

flappy bird, Sunday, 30 December 2018 23:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Sacred Deer one is still the only film of his that’s worked for me. The Favourite just felt too empty and vapid and I know that’s one of his things, but why?

tangenttangent, Monday, 31 December 2018 00:28 (two months ago) Permalink

Dogtooth still reigns

otm

Juul Haalmeyer Dancers washout (WmC), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Yep

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 31 December 2018 00:49 (two months ago) Permalink

i loved this. it's the only film of his i've loved although i liked both dogtooth and deer. i just loved eveything about it. it is gorgeous to look at.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Monday, 7 January 2019 22:13 (two months ago) Permalink

Lanthimos prefers animals to people (and why not?)

disagree w this premise

flopson, Monday, 7 January 2019 22:18 (two months ago) Permalink

thought this was great. a little bit slight, and i thought Rachel Weisz would come back one more time (also nearly everything was in the trailer smh). but i really liked it. the score was excellent

flopson, Monday, 7 January 2019 22:19 (two months ago) Permalink

as with The Lobaster, I spent the first half absolutely mesmerised and the second half wondering exactly when it was going to end. He seems to introduce all the excitement and fun right near the beginning and then the wheels start spinning and it becomes samey. But yes, I really did enjoy this. The three leads were amazing, the set was incredible, the script perfect. Just could have done with a small trim

frame casual (dog latin), Monday, 7 January 2019 22:53 (two months ago) Permalink

https://g.co/kgs/Do9dWW

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:24 (two months ago) Permalink

i'll prioritize Twin Peaks and Peep Show the second i find out i'm dying, how's that?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:30 (two months ago) Permalink

fair

flappy bird, Thursday, 10 January 2019 16:57 (two months ago) Permalink

There are many things to watch.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, January 10, 2019 8:23 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the truest expression of our times

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:32 (two months ago) Permalink

Peep show is at the top of any list of things to eat g. Wish i could watch it for the first time again..

flopson, Thursday, 10 January 2019 17:57 (two months ago) Permalink

All very well but this is the thread for The Favourite, a film by Yorgos Lanthimos.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 10 January 2019 18:10 (two months ago) Permalink

rumor has it they share a performer

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 18:13 (two months ago) Permalink

jed, have you watched Peep Show?

flopson, Thursday, 10 January 2019 18:44 (two months ago) Permalink

my libraries do not have Peep Show DVDs, dickoids

ILL, and you're still on a computer

sans lep (sic), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:04 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah, Amazon Prime has it

what makes the Required Viewing list is rather easy to predict around here

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:08 (two months ago) Permalink

I haven't! I don't think I like David Mitchell. He's annoying on panel shows.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:17 (two months ago) Permalink

you should watch it. shame about having that baggage going into it, but it’s the best sitcom of the 21st c imho

flopson, Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:37 (two months ago) Permalink

I can't fucking stand the sight of either of 'em on panel shows or in peep shows, nauseating tossers!

calzino, Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:48 (two months ago) Permalink

This ruled

Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Thursday, 10 January 2019 20:16 (two months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Finally saw this, reminded me of a more commercially-minded Peter Greenaway. Also was that crazed organ music on the soundtrack Messiaen? Olivia Colman was fantastic, she's shaping up to be this generation's Judi Dench if that's not an absurd assertion (I realise it probably is).

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Saturday, 2 March 2019 10:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Do we need one?

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 March 2019 11:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

as soon she accepts any royal honours she's on the list - no exceptions

calzino, Saturday, 2 March 2019 11:38 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Huh just watched this an hour ago too, really liked it. It's nice just to have a movie with three female leads. Certainly my pick of the Best Picture nominees (though yet to see Green Book)

Vinnie, Saturday, 2 March 2019 11:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Funny seeing Olivia turn up as a secretary in Green Wing last night which was presumably from before she had made a name for herself.

Stevolende, Saturday, 2 March 2019 12:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Or at least, had it on the tv for the first time in ages. Have the box set from shortly after it was on tv for first time.
& while she is a recurring character she is a lesser part of an ensemble cast. Or something to that effect.

Stevolende, Saturday, 2 March 2019 12:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Peep Show was already airing when it debuted

Number None, Saturday, 2 March 2019 14:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Was Mitchell and Webb Look post Peep Show?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 March 2019 14:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yes

Number None, Saturday, 2 March 2019 14:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

she appeared in a few other sketch shows with them prior to Peep Show though

Number None, Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:00 (three weeks ago) Permalink

her work on Peep Show is god-tier

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 2 March 2019 15:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Colman met Mitchell & Webb when all were 18-19 yrs old at the Cambridge U. Footlights (1992-93).

moistly harmless (Sanpaku), Saturday, 2 March 2019 18:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

but let’s not hold that against her

Backdoor Pathway To Making Human Penis Started With A Wallaby (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 2 March 2019 18:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

another one for the dossier!

calzino, Saturday, 2 March 2019 18:34 (three weeks ago) Permalink

hang on

imago, Saturday, 2 March 2019 18:42 (three weeks ago) Permalink

This was what I was hoping Phantom Thread would be, the difference being that I actually wanted to hang around these characters. Loved the economy of the screenwriting within the lavish setting.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 2 March 2019 18:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

That’s kind of an enigmatic take

moose; squirrel (silby), Saturday, 2 March 2019 19:12 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Finally saw this last night. It was ok, but overall it was underwhelming compared to Lanthimos' other films. I did like the lens choices, and belly-laughed at the dancing in the grand ball scene.

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 18:46 (one week ago) Permalink

"That’s kind of an enigmatic take"

lol otm, i kinda disgree with every assertion in that sentence.

this was ok.

circa1916, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 19:19 (one week ago) Permalink

Eazy, you wanted to hang around... vermin?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 19:28 (one week ago) Permalink

Saw it the other day. I hated the other Lanthimos movie I saw (The Lobster), but liked this quite a bit. It reminded me of Barry Lyndon a little.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 19:47 (one week ago) Permalink

^blasphemy

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:01 (one week ago) Permalink

natural light, period piece

comparison falls down bcz The Favourite is not so boring that you ossify to death halfway through

steven, soda jerk (sic), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:20 (one week ago) Permalink

comparison falls down bcz The Favourite is not so boring that you ossify to death halfway through

Well, tbf that's where comparisons to any Kubrick film fall apart.

grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:51 (one week ago) Permalink

weirdly significantly better than i expect oscar winning films to be

plax (ico), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:56 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah wigs wigs wigs

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:57 (one week ago) Permalink

xp Well, were it not for Olivia Colman's natural charisma, it would've gone 0-for-10 there.

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 March 2019 20:58 (one week ago) Permalink

weisz was best imo

flopson, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 21:12 (one week ago) Permalink

phantom thread is better tho

flopson, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 21:13 (one week ago) Permalink

flop otm

boobie, Wednesday, 13 March 2019 21:14 (one week ago) Permalink

"are you here to seduce me or rape me?"

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 March 2019 02:52 (one week ago) Permalink

"were you sent here to ruin my evening, or possibly my entire life?"

steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 14 March 2019 03:13 (one week ago) Permalink

shot, chaser

flappy bird, Thursday, 14 March 2019 04:27 (one week ago) Permalink

Just viewed. I was enchanted until the last 5 minutes, and really wish this could have stuck the landing.

The Draughtman's Contract (likely Lanthimo's major inspiration) is a better film (though the available video transfers from 16mm aren't), but this will remain in rotation.

contains pieces the size of a child's esophagus (Sanpaku), Thursday, 14 March 2019 05:42 (one week ago) Permalink

Really? I thought the ending was perfect! They both realized they were trapped, but were in their own separate versions of reality. After all of the harshness of the preceding story I thought it was kind of moving

Dan S, Thursday, 14 March 2019 06:33 (one week ago) Permalink


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