thread of youtubers whomst are not terrible

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a place to talk Contrapoints, Lindsay Ellis, and anyone else anyone cares to recommend or complain about, prompted by the former's newfound level of popularity, but pls feel free to talk about any cool #content providers, not just politics folx

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:57 (six months ago) Permalink

thx comrade

๐ŸŽถ in a world of pure exsanguination ๐ŸŽถ (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:59 (six months ago) Permalink

also there was some discussion on the second thoughts thread of Natalie being problematic in some way but I couldn't really follow it, so pls hash that out here if you are so inclined

I've heard good things abou hbomberguy but can't really bring myself to click on someone who uses formulations like "x is terrible and here's why", regardless of what the x is (well, maybe if it's capitalism).

hbomberguy is tight with the other two youtubers already mentioned so he tends to get lumped in as well, but my big problem with his videos is they're too damn long. if you care about the politics of gaming you could do a lot worse and he is quite funny and charming at times, but he could really take a page from Contra when it comes to concision

For anyone who's curious about Lindsay Ellis, her three-parter on the Hobbit films is a bit of a form-buster when it comes to YouTube video essays, particularly for the way it blossoms from an essay into an actual documentary partway through

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:03 (six months ago) Permalink

danielfromsl has popped up on ILG plenty but I think he potentially has mass appeal. Kind of the Nathan Fielder/Eric Andre of online gaming, reliably hilarious.

'Rock Me (I'm a Dais)' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:10 (six months ago) Permalink

Kinda wish this thread was a video game-free zone but whatever, that's just me. Carry on.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:13 (six months ago) Permalink

I wish that too, but it's kind of an impossible wish given how everyone plays video games obsessively

Anyway, I have lots of quasi-viable options for this thread but I don't know which ones to foreground

imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:19 (six months ago) Permalink

I'll say that Jon Bois >>>>>>>

imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:19 (six months ago) Permalink

Well, NB, the only other game-related videos I really watch are Skate 3 glitch compilations so clearly I'm mostly just in it for the lols.

'Rock Me (I'm a Dais)' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:20 (six months ago) Permalink

how did I not know that Jon Bois has an entire channel

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:24 (six months ago) Permalink

speaking of which, let's begin the actual youtubing with the best video on youtube

imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:54 (six months ago) Permalink

(although really his Pretty Good and Chart Party series are MANDATORY viewing)

imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:57 (six months ago) Permalink

Stevem does pretty good videos about Japanese music (from Jazz to City Pop to Japanese Hip-Hop) and the more respectable end of anime (Miyazaki etc.)

Vinilteca is good if you want to get a grasp on the Brazilian music canon but it's in Portuguese.

Strictly Dumpling is my guilty pleasure food go-to. It's pretty vapid, dude doesn't have a ton of charisma and the music's terrible BUT he does seem to know his shit and has a stomach of steal, so seeing him eat prodigious amounts of grub throughout South East Asia is pretty entertaining. I'm sure accounts like that are a dime a dozen but this one's at least well edited and doesn't have too many calls to action.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:23 (six months ago) Permalink

incidentally, since you mentioned calls to action, if anyone doesn't know what that means, the most recent Lindsay Ellis video is a meta meditation on the youtuber business model that gets into all this stuff and it's a good overview of the madnesses inherent to the platform

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:25 (six months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's where I learned the term :)

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:27 (six months ago) Permalink

I go back and forth on whether to just block Youtube entirely. As much as I like Contrapoints and free music, it's a site that activates my worst internet compulsions. Like she put it in the CTH interview, "Youtube forced me to watch it."

jmm, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:30 (six months ago) Permalink

Not crazy about how this conflates Disney and Warner Bros but whatever, I guess both could be equally restrictive in their own ways:

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:42 (six months ago) Permalink

Primitive Technology, in which a man makes all kinds of things using pretty much only what he finds in the woods:

You Suck at Cooking, a fine decoction of deadpan self-deprecation and sheer absurdity:

Michael New is a guy who teaches music theory & composition basics in a very accessible way:

a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:08 (six months ago) Permalink

scott brown carpentry & the MRE man

single bed mentality (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:31 (six months ago) Permalink

I assume people know about Simone Giertz and her intentionally-shitty robots but if not well then there you go.

Welcome to Gropelord, TX (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:44 (six months ago) Permalink

Someone tried to get me into asmr videos because he thought it would totally be my thing. IT IS TOTALLY NOT MY THING.

Yerac, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:46 (six months ago) Permalink

I like this funny South African woman who does car reviews that contain some great real life info and also bad singing: (that statium is in Cape Town, by the way)

StanM, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:22 (six months ago) Permalink

cool channel having weirdos guide you through their tiny weirdo houses

in a way, it's anti-youtuber in that it's more errol morris than the "me-me-me-me i have a take on everything!" approach that youtube seems to encourage. speaking of which, I think errol morris's son has a channel where it's just him taking a bunch of drugs.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:37 (six months ago) Permalink

you suck at cooking was a great call

imago, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:10 (six months ago) Permalink

oh yeah scott brown carpentry

micah, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 09:08 (six months ago) Permalink

kiwami japan's latest bestrides youtube like a colossus

imago, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:00 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Polygon did a list of best video essays of 2018, with the usual suspects (ContraPoints, Linsday Ellis) present. The last one about a scene from Tarkovsky's Nostalgia felt to me like a bunch of interesting ideas that never really came together; now I'm in the madness of the two hour video about parasocial relationships.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 31 December 2018 19:07 (five months ago) Permalink

lol, forgot to link:

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 31 December 2018 19:07 (five months ago) Permalink

Noah Caldwell-Gervais deserves a mention.

Ostensibly long, literate and humane retrospective reviews of video games by someone who toiled in pizza delivery, but he's also adopted a vagabond lifestyle out of a restored VW bus with his new wife, and his video essays on their journeys through the US West put the rest of his work in perspective.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:43 (five months ago) Permalink

Todd in the Shadows reviews pop music, and recently, 1 hit wonders. Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to find he lurks here.

closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:43 (five months ago) Permalink

I watched some of the parasocial relationships series. V interesting but yeah crazy long.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:45 (five months ago) Permalink

todd in the shadows does lurk here or at least has before. one of his videos directly cited an ilm thread in the description (a compilation of songs that actually stop when the singer says stop, like the ilm thread on the same subject).

found the parasocial relationship video basically unwatchable. it was heavily rt'd by that whole circle of #content creators (a comically large proportion of ppl on that list are friends and frequent collaborators -- the fellow who wrote the list might as well have had it served up to him by algorithmically generated recommendations) so i tried to watch it around the time it came out. her intro video on the subject was good/interesting but the rest was just tediously extended to an absurd degree not at all justified by the insight provided in the commentary or the ridiculous number of clips of bo burnham. i don't think i would have even found it necessary if i were stoned.

anyway that circle of creators is sometimes informally referred to as 'leftube' or similar by its audience due to i guess being leftists and/or critical of the worryingly visible far-right factions of the site. i am personally very unimpressed by this collective's obvious awareness of, and apparent lack of interest in directly addressing, a phenomenon that any leftist viewing them will have noticed: virtually all of these creators are white, and given that most if not all of them rely heavily on cultural touchstones and memes to illustrate their broader theses, the narrowness of the cultural literacy that's evident in their work (this includes both lindsay ellis and todd in the shadows btw) will serve as a significant handicap to creating a space on youtube representing their political leanings that does not also reproduce racial separation and hierarchy. contemporary online meme culture is spawned in enormous part within black culture, so their utter cluelessness about, say, the work of any currently active black musician who isn't favorably covered on pitchfork and explicitly 'political' enough to make sense to them, coupled with their inability to include anyone who does have this level of cultural literacy in their frequent collaborative efforts is disappointing to say the least.

when this obvious phenomenon was brought up on twitter, the response from these creators was merely to retweet contrapoints's quote-tweet of a user's list of left-leaning creators of color along with the message "let's make leftube more representative!" or somesuch. meanwhile i am not especially hopeful that they won't continue to collaborate exclusively with one another, continue to congregate only with one another at fan meet-and-greets, #content creator conferences and the like, etc. etc. maybe one of them will retweet kat blaque or the1janitor once every month or something.

i have unsubscribed from both of the 'leftube' creators to whom i'd previously subscribed (contrapoints and hbomberguy). while i will probably continue to enjoy their work when i do come across it, i would rather spend whatever time i use actively seeking out content looking for creators who are not creating networks (because these creators are not just creating content, but networks of content!) that are so insular.

dyl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 20:06 (five months ago) Permalink

that's a fair criticism. I would hope that in time the network becomes less insular but at the same time I'm happy to throw some $$ at anyone fighting the RW content machine and doing so in a way that's engaging

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 January 2019 02:11 (five months ago) Permalink

this has 1.1k *replies* so far

Have my videos helped to change your viewpoint (about the Alt-Right, trans issues, whatever else)? Are you willing to talk to a journalist about it? Respond to this tweet if so! ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ™

— Natalie Wynn ๐Ÿฆ‹ (@ContraPoints) January 10, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 12 January 2019 02:30 (five months ago) Permalink

I'm a bit less fond of Hbomber because I think he makes less effort to be approachable to the opposition, very different from Contra and Shaun the skull.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 January 2019 13:23 (five months ago) Permalink

learned a lot from the latest Contra video

has anyone else noticed a marked uptick in complaining about the garbage YouTube recommendations?

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 16:51 (four months ago) Permalink

and speaking of Hbomberguy, he's currently like 27 hours into a Twitch charity stream for Mermaids and is up to $100k, so I think it's safe to say the community is growing

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:08 (four months ago) Permalink

Retail Archaeology

Dead malls, zombie retail stores, etc

calstars, Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:35 (four months ago) Permalink

Harris is still going, $133k / 33hrs

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 06:38 (four months ago) Permalink

youtube's sidebar recommendations are inexcusably shit and compromised and i feel guilty about continuing to use youtube knowing sidebar recs still exist but honestly i find youtube too useful to seriously consider quitting.

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:00 (four months ago) Permalink


— Mary Ellen (@alissacaliente) January 20, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:23 (four months ago) Permalink

I just caught the very end. Crazy.

jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:27 (four months ago) Permalink

I can't see it well on my phone, what's the $$ up to?

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:29 (four months ago) Permalink

Over $221k. Since I clicked a few minutes ago they've made about five thousand.

jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:35 (four months ago) Permalink

I don't feel old until I see how popular twitch streams are.

Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:36 (four months ago) Permalink

I wonder whether AOC is a gamer.

jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:38 (four months ago) Permalink

I would say not because it is a total time suck and she seems actually really productive.

Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:39 (four months ago) Permalink

Good enough for me.

Hereโ€™s @aoc talking about how Nintendo 64 was the best system. Sheโ€™s on @twitch helping to raise money for trans kids.

— New Super Blood Wolf Moon Bros. U Deluxe (@GenePark) January 20, 2019

jmm, Monday, 21 January 2019 00:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Loved the Youtube episode, Simon. You each found your way to a different circle of hell.

jmm, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:15 (four months ago) Permalink

Ha, thanks! We suffered for your entertainment.

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 02:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Ash Sarkar interviewed Harris

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 14:23 (four months ago) Permalink

I like The Ushanka Show, about life in the Soviet Union. This video is about Soviet TV in the early 80's.

I Am Sporadicus (I M Losted), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:02 (four months ago) Permalink

rants about bad meals
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p.j.b. (pj), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:30 (four months ago) Permalink


p.j.b. (pj), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:38 (four months ago) Permalink

I enjoy Lost in Vegas reaction/review videos quite a bit. Just a couple of guys who love music and are trying to expand their horizons from r&b/hip-hop into metal, country, and elsewhere. Occasionally a little corny but always genuine and often hilarious.

Their reaction to War Pigs is what got me hooked:

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:26 (four months ago) Permalink

i like those dudes a lot, pretty much the only reaction videos i've ever gotten anything out of

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:31 (four months ago) Permalink

they've reviewed a few deftones songs where they link abe cunningham's drumming to quiet storm and it's so delightful

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 28 January 2019 16:32 (four months ago) Permalink

I've watched a few of theirs and the only thing that bothered me is that they pause the song to comment.

jmm, Monday, 28 January 2019 16:32 (four months ago) Permalink

Music reaction channels are a funny ecosystem. An awful lot of them seem to be about validating classic rock and metal. I also wonder just how genuine many of the 'first time' reactions are, especially for huge songs like Bohemian Rhapsody.

jmm, Monday, 28 January 2019 16:54 (four months ago) Permalink

I definitely think the rock and metal videos are the money-makers (?) for Lost in Vegas, but their hip hop reviews/reactions are great too and have introduced me to new stuff I likely wouldn't have heard otherwise.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 28 January 2019 17:02 (four months ago) Permalink

Tons of kids in my son's middle school watch PewDiePie and there is even a concerted "get PewDiePie the most followers" campaign there. Do I have to specifically keep my kid off PewDiePie? Am I right in understanding it's a potential vector for him to be exposed to racist YouTube?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 January 2019 17:27 (four months ago) Permalink


resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 28 January 2019 17:31 (four months ago) Permalink

No more than online gaming culture in general, though.

pomenitul, Monday, 28 January 2019 17:31 (four months ago) Permalink

I mean, there are good pockets of culture in the gaming world (see a few posts ago) but imo PDP is particularly awful and v likely to link out to even more obviously horrible things

resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 28 January 2019 17:33 (four months ago) Permalink

That campaign is much wider than his school:

PewDiePie's already basically racist Youtube, so stay away if you can. But it's hard to completely escape that side of Youtube no matter what you do. Simon H. just did a really funny podcast episode on how quickly you can get from innocuous Thomas the Tank Engine videos to the alt-right just by following recommendations.

jmm, Monday, 28 January 2019 17:35 (four months ago) Permalink

I watched a few Bill Burr stand-up clips and that's all it took for Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson to start showing up in recommendations.

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 28 January 2019 17:50 (four months ago) Permalink

keep your kids off youtube at all costs imo

marcos smart (Spottie), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:38 (four months ago) Permalink


resident hack (Simon H.), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:49 (four months ago) Permalink

yikes ok, i talked to him about it, he seems to think that being really into YouTube is "stupid" (he thinks that about a lot of things) so for the moment I think I'm OK, there is not really a context at home where he'd be seeing YouTube without me knowing but obv. I can't control what he sees at school

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 28 January 2019 19:53 (four months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

Lindsay Ellis now nominated for a Hugo!

Simon H., Tuesday, 2 April 2019 16:46 (two months ago) Permalink

this guy is becoming an mvp

imago, Thursday, 11 April 2019 22:38 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm stoked someone else has already mentioned The Ushanka Show! That's one of the YT channels I subscribe to.

Another great channel I've gotten into is about linguistics and is called Langfocus. This video taught me why French is such a different type of language to the other Romance languages:

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Then there's List25, which is an educational AND entertainment channel. This is one of their more recent serious/educational videos, though they'll also make more lighthearted videos:

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:31 (two months ago) Permalink

On a much lighter note (vs. the last video), there are The Try Guys, which features a Ned! (Except this Ned is a Yale grad and would probably not be BFFs with Dan the Harvard man.)

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:37 (two months ago) Permalink

(Why didn't the Langfocus link work? Hm, let me try again.)

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Then there's this fascinating channel called the After Prison Show, which has been an eye-opening insight into what it's like to be imprisoned (a reality I had zero idea about) (caution: this guy gets a little shouty, so you might want to lower the volume if you're listening through headphones):

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 13 April 2019 18:50 (two months ago) Permalink

the ridiculous number of clips of bo burnham

From way upthread: I can now say that, having watched Burnham's special, the clips excerpted in the parasocial video are literally the only parts worth bothering with.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 14 April 2019 10:14 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the After Prison Show is good, there's a few similar channels of that type, he's definitely engaging. I thought what was most striking about his content is the feeling of inevitability of prison time, just accepted as a fact of life. Its almost too banal for him to even raise as a topic, its just there all the time

anvil, Monday, 15 April 2019 13:11 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

man the Bois two-parter on the Bobs of sport is just amazing

Simon H., Tuesday, 7 May 2019 02:58 (one month ago) Permalink

so so good

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 06:28 (one month ago) Permalink

knew this bump would be for Bois. saving the second part for tonight...

imago, Tuesday, 7 May 2019 06:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Don't we have a thread for youtubers who are in fact terrible?

โ˜ฎ (peace, man), Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:04 (one month ago) Permalink

Bois' second part isn't out yet actually

Start the terrible Youtubers thread already!

imago, Thursday, 9 May 2019 13:07 (one month ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

a. jon bois keeps excelling himself

b. what is this Nebula thing, anyone else fancy it?

imago, Friday, 24 May 2019 21:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

as stanned by real life lore:

imago, Friday, 24 May 2019 21:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

This guy is the snarky English version of Vsauce, IMO, and that's just about the best thing:

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Saturday, 25 May 2019 21:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ah yes, simon whis-a-ler. good fellow, entertaining and with a fine zingy streak. at his best on Today I Found Out

imago, Saturday, 25 May 2019 22:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

The latest Contrapoints is great. One of the least character-driven in quite some time.

jmm, Saturday, 25 May 2019 22:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ah yes, simon whis-a-ler. good fellow, entertaining and with a fine zingy streak. at his best on Today I Found Out

I agree with you wholeheartedly.

The Colour of Spring (deethelurker), Sunday, 26 May 2019 01:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i don't usually watch youtube videos but i did feel obligated to watch the latest contrapoints video. it was interesting. being an internet celebrity seems like a fairly brutal life.

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 May 2019 11:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It was sly of her to drop this in the middle of the Youtube beauty influencer apocalypse (which I totally haven't been sucked into following, no sir.)

jmm, Sunday, 26 May 2019 13:27 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Seems like a coincidence to me? I guess I'm lucky in that "beauty" has always been fairly unattainable for me - with my particular physiognomy I suspect well-meaning people would describe me as "brave" if I tried - and by this point I'm at an age where it's not even honestly expected of me.

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 May 2019 14:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the Youtube beauty influencer apocalypse

Go on....

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 26 May 2019 16:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

with my particular physiognomy ... I'm at an age where it's not even honestly expected of me.

Fran Blanche makes some similar points and references the Contrapoints video.

just another country (snoball), Sunday, 26 May 2019 16:34 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Having listened to that podcast, I don't know, I'm probably more on board with Natalie than I am with Fran! The point that Natalie gets to, eventually, is that beauty isn't forever, that "looking good" isn't just about being beautiful but about _style_, which is a form of positive self-expression. It does matter to me what people think of me, how people look at me, and just because my control of that (particularly as a non-cis person) is extremely limited doesn't mean that it's futile or wrong for me to try and look good!

Listening to trans voices is a hugely double-edged sword (I guess like one of those Castlevania swords?) for me. On the one hand it's hugely affirming, is great for helping me feel less alone, but on the other hand it makes me aware how hurt and damaged pretty much all of us have been by what we've been through. I am a little jealous of these young trans people because as superficial and naive as they can be about a lot of things, and as much open hostility and hatred as they have to put up with for being who they are, they don't have the internalized self-loathing that people of my age and older all seem to, they haven't been deformed by it the way we have.

Having gone through decades of chronic mental illness, self-harm, suicidal ideation, suicidal intent, crippling panic attacks, drug addiction, and somehow having not just survived all that but made it to being a well-adjusted, happy, and successful human being, I'm absolutely terrified of throwing that all away, which it sometimes seems like I'm doing. I'm not actually, though. Being a well-adjusted, happy, and successful human being requires me to accept myself for who I am, even if it means being hated and scorned by other people.

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 May 2019 18:25 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Kat Blaque on the subject of LeftTube's whiteness

Simon H., Wednesday, 5 June 2019 02:56 (one week ago) Permalink

I never dug into Jon Bois non-sports videos but some of these are fantastic

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 6 June 2019 02:05 (one week ago) Permalink

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