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a place to talk Contrapoints, Lindsay Ellis, and anyone else anyone cares to recommend or complain about, prompted by the former's newfound level of popularity, but pls feel free to talk about any cool #content providers, not just politics folx

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:57 (five years ago) link

thx comrade

🎶 in a world of pure exsanguination 🎶 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:59 (five years ago) link

also there was some discussion on the second thoughts thread of Natalie being problematic in some way but I couldn't really follow it, so pls hash that out here if you are so inclined

I've heard good things abou hbomberguy but can't really bring myself to click on someone who uses formulations like "x is terrible and here's why", regardless of what the x is (well, maybe if it's capitalism).

hbomberguy is tight with the other two youtubers already mentioned so he tends to get lumped in as well, but my big problem with his videos is they're too damn long. if you care about the politics of gaming you could do a lot worse and he is quite funny and charming at times, but he could really take a page from Contra when it comes to concision

For anyone who's curious about Lindsay Ellis, her three-parter on the Hobbit films is a bit of a form-buster when it comes to YouTube video essays, particularly for the way it blossoms from an essay into an actual documentary partway through

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:03 (five years ago) link

danielfromsl has popped up on ILG plenty but I think he potentially has mass appeal. Kind of the Nathan Fielder/Eric Andre of online gaming, reliably hilarious.

'Rock Me (I'm a Dais)' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

Kinda wish this thread was a video game-free zone but whatever, that's just me. Carry on.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:13 (five years ago) link

I wish that too, but it's kind of an impossible wish given how everyone plays video games obsessively

Anyway, I have lots of quasi-viable options for this thread but I don't know which ones to foreground

imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link

I'll say that Jon Bois >>>>>>>

imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link

Well, NB, the only other game-related videos I really watch are Skate 3 glitch compilations so clearly I'm mostly just in it for the lols.

'Rock Me (I'm a Dais)' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

how did I not know that Jon Bois has an entire channel

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

speaking of which, let's begin the actual youtubing with the best video on youtube

imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link

(although really his Pretty Good and Chart Party series are MANDATORY viewing)

imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

Stevem does pretty good videos about Japanese music (from Jazz to City Pop to Japanese Hip-Hop) and the more respectable end of anime (Miyazaki etc.)

Vinilteca is good if you want to get a grasp on the Brazilian music canon but it's in Portuguese.

Strictly Dumpling is my guilty pleasure food go-to. It's pretty vapid, dude doesn't have a ton of charisma and the music's terrible BUT he does seem to know his shit and has a stomach of steal, so seeing him eat prodigious amounts of grub throughout South East Asia is pretty entertaining. I'm sure accounts like that are a dime a dozen but this one's at least well edited and doesn't have too many calls to action.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

incidentally, since you mentioned calls to action, if anyone doesn't know what that means, the most recent Lindsay Ellis video is a meta meditation on the youtuber business model that gets into all this stuff and it's a good overview of the madnesses inherent to the platform

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

Yeah, that's where I learned the term :)

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:27 (five years ago) link

I go back and forth on whether to just block Youtube entirely. As much as I like Contrapoints and free music, it's a site that activates my worst internet compulsions. Like she put it in the CTH interview, "Youtube forced me to watch it."

jmm, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

Not crazy about how this conflates Disney and Warner Bros but whatever, I guess both could be equally restrictive in their own ways:

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link

Primitive Technology, in which a man makes all kinds of things using pretty much only what he finds in the woods:

You Suck at Cooking, a fine decoction of deadpan self-deprecation and sheer absurdity:

Michael New is a guy who teaches music theory & composition basics in a very accessible way:

a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link

scott brown carpentry & the MRE man

single bed mentality (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

I assume people know about Simone Giertz and her intentionally-shitty robots but if not well then there you go.

Welcome to Gropelord, TX (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

Someone tried to get me into asmr videos because he thought it would totally be my thing. IT IS TOTALLY NOT MY THING.

Yerac, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

I like this funny South African woman who does car reviews that contain some great real life info and also bad singing: (that statium is in Cape Town, by the way)

StanM, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link

cool channel having weirdos guide you through their tiny weirdo houses

in a way, it's anti-youtuber in that it's more errol morris than the "me-me-me-me i have a take on everything!" approach that youtube seems to encourage. speaking of which, I think errol morris's son has a channel where it's just him taking a bunch of drugs.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

you suck at cooking was a great call

imago, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link

oh yeah scott brown carpentry

micah, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 09:08 (five years ago) link

kiwami japan's latest bestrides youtube like a colossus

imago, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Polygon did a list of best video essays of 2018, with the usual suspects (ContraPoints, Linsday Ellis) present. The last one about a scene from Tarkovsky's Nostalgia felt to me like a bunch of interesting ideas that never really came together; now I'm in the madness of the two hour video about parasocial relationships.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 31 December 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

lol, forgot to link:

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 31 December 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

Noah Caldwell-Gervais deserves a mention.

Ostensibly long, literate and humane retrospective reviews of video games by someone who toiled in pizza delivery, but he's also adopted a vagabond lifestyle out of a restored VW bus with his new wife, and his video essays on their journeys through the US West put the rest of his work in perspective.

Sanpaku, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:43 (five years ago) link

Todd in the Shadows reviews pop music, and recently, 1 hit wonders. Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to find he lurks here.

closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

I watched some of the parasocial relationships series. V interesting but yeah crazy long.

resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:45 (five years ago) link

todd in the shadows does lurk here or at least has before. one of his videos directly cited an ilm thread in the description (a compilation of songs that actually stop when the singer says stop, like the ilm thread on the same subject).

found the parasocial relationship video basically unwatchable. it was heavily rt'd by that whole circle of #content creators (a comically large proportion of ppl on that list are friends and frequent collaborators -- the fellow who wrote the list might as well have had it served up to him by algorithmically generated recommendations) so i tried to watch it around the time it came out. her intro video on the subject was good/interesting but the rest was just tediously extended to an absurd degree not at all justified by the insight provided in the commentary or the ridiculous number of clips of bo burnham. i don't think i would have even found it necessary if i were stoned.

anyway that circle of creators is sometimes informally referred to as 'leftube' or similar by its audience due to i guess being leftists and/or critical of the worryingly visible far-right factions of the site. i am personally very unimpressed by this collective's obvious awareness of, and apparent lack of interest in directly addressing, a phenomenon that any leftist viewing them will have noticed: virtually all of these creators are white, and given that most if not all of them rely heavily on cultural touchstones and memes to illustrate their broader theses, the narrowness of the cultural literacy that's evident in their work (this includes both lindsay ellis and todd in the shadows btw) will serve as a significant handicap to creating a space on youtube representing their political leanings that does not also reproduce racial separation and hierarchy. contemporary online meme culture is spawned in enormous part within black culture, so their utter cluelessness about, say, the work of any currently active black musician who isn't favorably covered on pitchfork and explicitly 'political' enough to make sense to them, coupled with their inability to include anyone who does have this level of cultural literacy in their frequent collaborative efforts is disappointing to say the least.

when this obvious phenomenon was brought up on twitter, the response from these creators was merely to retweet contrapoints's quote-tweet of a user's list of left-leaning creators of color along with the message "let's make leftube more representative!" or somesuch. meanwhile i am not especially hopeful that they won't continue to collaborate exclusively with one another, continue to congregate only with one another at fan meet-and-greets, #content creator conferences and the like, etc. etc. maybe one of them will retweet kat blaque or the1janitor once every month or something.

i have unsubscribed from both of the 'leftube' creators to whom i'd previously subscribed (contrapoints and hbomberguy). while i will probably continue to enjoy their work when i do come across it, i would rather spend whatever time i use actively seeking out content looking for creators who are not creating networks (because these creators are not just creating content, but networks of content!) that are so insular.

dyl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

that's a fair criticism. I would hope that in time the network becomes less insular but at the same time I'm happy to throw some $$ at anyone fighting the RW content machine and doing so in a way that's engaging

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 January 2019 02:11 (five years ago) link

this has 1.1k *replies* so far

Have my videos helped to change your viewpoint (about the Alt-Right, trans issues, whatever else)? Are you willing to talk to a journalist about it? Respond to this tweet if so! 🙏🙏🙏

— Natalie Wynn 🦋 (@ContraPoints) January 10, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 12 January 2019 02:30 (five years ago) link

I'm a bit less fond of Hbomber because I think he makes less effort to be approachable to the opposition, very different from Contra and Shaun the skull.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 January 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link

learned a lot from the latest Contra video

has anyone else noticed a marked uptick in complaining about the garbage YouTube recommendations?

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 16:51 (five years ago) link

and speaking of Hbomberguy, he's currently like 27 hours into a Twitch charity stream for Mermaids and is up to $100k, so I think it's safe to say the community is growing

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:08 (five years ago) link

Retail Archaeology

Dead malls, zombie retail stores, etc

calstars, Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:35 (five years ago) link

Harris is still going, $133k / 33hrs

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 06:38 (five years ago) link

youtube's sidebar recommendations are inexcusably shit and compromised and i feel guilty about continuing to use youtube knowing sidebar recs still exist but honestly i find youtube too useful to seriously consider quitting.

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:00 (five years ago) link


— Mary Ellen (@alissacaliente) January 20, 2019

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:23 (five years ago) link

I just caught the very end. Crazy.

jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link

I can't see it well on my phone, what's the $$ up to?

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:29 (five years ago) link

Over $221k. Since I clicked a few minutes ago they've made about five thousand.

jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:35 (five years ago) link

I don't feel old until I see how popular twitch streams are.

Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:36 (five years ago) link

I wonder whether AOC is a gamer.

jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:38 (five years ago) link

I would say not because it is a total time suck and she seems actually really productive.

Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:39 (five years ago) link

Good enough for me.

Here’s @aoc talking about how Nintendo 64 was the best system. She’s on @twitch helping to raise money for trans kids.

— New Super Blood Wolf Moon Bros. U Deluxe (@GenePark) January 20, 2019

jmm, Monday, 21 January 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link

Loved the Youtube episode, Simon. You each found your way to a different circle of hell.

jmm, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:15 (five years ago) link

Ha, thanks! We suffered for your entertainment.

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 02:40 (five years ago) link

Ash Sarkar interviewed Harris

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 14:23 (five years ago) link

It felt like he was straining to make some interesting content, but America was just not providing it, the attempt to make the football game at the end interesting just felt kind of sad. Would have been better just to do a really long hike or maybe motorbike across the whole country.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 10:53 (eleven months ago) link

Black Country No Roads on the other hand was one of the highlights of last year, hope he does more urban exploration

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 10:53 (eleven months ago) link

Europe is TOO LOW in that ranking imo, that was a blast, although yeah very little beats the og Wales one, the sheer shock of watching this dude I'd been subscribed to for his Geoguessr content suddenly turning into the world's last great explorer, and certainly the greatest one to make their own soundtracks

The one with his brother (Wales 3) was fantastic, his brother is just as eccentric as him if not more so, I'd have that over Norway and Scotland too. Sorry, Welsh Greg, lol

imago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:04 (eleven months ago) link

Despite the ropey bants of his support crew I loved the Football Across Britain one as well, culminating in the only ever hair-raisingly epic, EARNED rendition of Football's Coming Home (save for when the German crowd sung it during their 4-1 WC win over England, lmao)

imago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:06 (eleven months ago) link

I also LOVED the understandably short-lived experiment of his long-suffering girlfriend blindfolding him and driving him to random spots across the UK and seeing how long it took him to find out where he was

imago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:08 (eleven months ago) link

Should break it down into tiers I guess

unqualified love

Black Country No Roads
Wales 1

slightly-qualified love

Wales 3
Football Across Britain
How Not To Travel Europe

still good

Wales 2

bit of a let-down

How Not To Travel America

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:10 (eleven months ago) link

his girlfriend is absolutely the low key star whenever she's involved, yup

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:12 (eleven months ago) link

your top tier is notably the ones that are the most Just Tom (ft Occasional Verity). just a weird dude fighting through gorse. perfection

imago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:16 (eleven months ago) link

Norway is Tom & Verity too, slight qualification there is that the terrain was a bit uneventful, apart from the bit where he nearly died in a peat bog of course.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:24 (eleven months ago) link

There's a LOT more of her in that one, to the extent where it's virtually a duo mission. Unbelievable kayak-hauling dedication

imago, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:26 (eleven months ago) link

XP to Daniel, Yeah I just watched that one yesterday, I was just being silly by calling him Herc from The Wire, but he really reminds me of him. His videos are pretty great though.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:31 (eleven months ago) link

Enjoying RM Brown lately, one of the only lefty commentator types on YouTube that consistently makes me laugh.

spastic heritage, Wednesday, 26 April 2023 11:45 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

apparently Miranda Sings / colleen ballinger is terrible and manipulative to young fan(s). I'm not positive what she did rises to the level of 'groomer' though

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 10 June 2023 17:52 (ten months ago) link

what percentage of youtubers whomst are not terrible turned out to be terrible?

Philip Nunez, Sunday, 11 June 2023 15:59 (ten months ago) link

in fairness youtube did build a system wherein success and evil are positively correlated

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 11 June 2023 21:46 (ten months ago) link

The raccoon whisperer has not been milkshake ducked thank god.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 11 June 2023 21:51 (ten months ago) link

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 12 June 2023 07:43 (ten months ago) link

what percentage of youtubers whomst are not terrible turned out to be terrible?

Surprisingly low!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 12 June 2023 09:38 (ten months ago) link

Perun's channel has been good over the last year or so

anvil, Monday, 12 June 2023 10:03 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

latest GW two-parter absolutely one of his best imo

imago, Saturday, 1 July 2023 06:17 (nine months ago) link

What is GW?

anvil, Saturday, 1 July 2023 08:47 (nine months ago) link


the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 1 July 2023 08:48 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, I love the urban no roads ones. I think there might be another on Patreon, which I'd be tempted to sign up for.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 1 July 2023 12:32 (nine months ago) link

was no waterproof footwear a rule that i missed? 🤮

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 1 July 2023 15:26 (nine months ago) link

the pandemic made me a fan of those good mythical morning guys. and no i am not 12. they were comforting in a weird way. i still watch them. i also started watching a competitive eater named katina on youtube and i don't know why because i am not even really a huge hot dog contest guy. BUT again for some reason her voice-overs that she would do while she played footage of herself eating 20 hamburgers or whatever was really soothing to me! you never know what will get you through a plague. i even followed her u.k. trip. so many english breakfasts and tea service challenges. i do worry about her boyfriend randy though. he looks like maybe he needs to retire from the circuit. even if he is a legend. i also stopped watching them because i couldn't help but wonder how they expelled all that food after a challenge. i'm guessing enemas. but how else do you eat 12 pounds of food and then do it all over again in a day or two? maybe food just goes right through them at this point. and no they can't throw that much food up. they would die! and have permanent laryngitis.

also, i obviously watch hot ones like everyone else but i like the mythical kitchen last meal concept just as much. even the tom hanks one was good!

scott seward, Saturday, 1 July 2023 15:55 (nine months ago) link

here is katina in ireland. i was already kinda off the bus by the time that randy and katina took their recent trip to australia and asia. those are their most recent videos.

scott seward, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:02 (nine months ago) link

I too enjoy competitive eating videos occasionally. Did you ever watch Beard Meats Food (UK competitive eater and YouTuber), scott? He's the only one I do somewhat consistently follow.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:07 (nine months ago) link

I agree about Randy Santel too. It's not at all surprising that many decades of doing that kind of eating will take its toll, however much you work to manage it.

brain (krakow), Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:11 (nine months ago) link

i watched a TON of charlieBo313 during the pandemic too. it occurred to me that i watched a lot of travel/driving/trains/extreme running videos during the pandemic. which all makes perfect sense now. channels that are just horrible roads around the world and channels for scary tunnels. but anything with lots of distance covered and lots of movement.

scott seward, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:13 (nine months ago) link

i like beard meets food. he's nice. he's pals with randy and katina.

scott seward, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:14 (nine months ago) link

three weeks pass...

MaresNest, Sunday, 23 July 2023 17:56 (eight months ago) link

Looks negative and clickbait-y from the thumbnail but that's not the case.

MaresNest, Sunday, 23 July 2023 17:57 (eight months ago) link

four weeks pass...

did AdBlock Plus stop working on youtube ads for anyone else?

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 19:48 (eight months ago) link

I've recommended Foresty Forest here at least once before, but I wanted to highlight this recent video of his, which I thought was particularly great. It covers a multi-day hike in the Yukon, so the van content is minimal, but the outdoors stuff and scenery is amazing, and it's lovely to see him clearly having such a fantastic time. Lots of his awesome dog Rocko in it as well.

brain (krakow), Sunday, 3 September 2023 16:14 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

A fun game, inspired by Wikirace, for people interested in recommender systems: mask your identify from Google and click on YouTube suggestions until you reach a video that _promotes_ a fascistic, authoritarian, or intolerant view. A fun twist is too start with a seemingly innocuous subject.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 21 October 2023 16:08 (six months ago) link

my sense of fun has not yet evolved to that level!

i will tell you what is fun, though, is spooky stories read in a soothing coombrian accent

baths in the belfry (cat), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:13 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

Things I watch a lot none of which seem listed here anyways:

Aunty Donna

Map Men

Abroad in Japan

How to Cook That (misleading title really)
(although she's started SEOing/clickbait titling her stuff a bit recently)

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 05:17 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Finnerty killing it again

MaresNest, Thursday, 14 December 2023 12:57 (four months ago) link

Ogmios is now doing weekly Sunday morning football videos from Hackney Marshes, they're a delight:

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 14 December 2023 13:20 (four months ago) link

I was hoping this thread got revived for that new Finnerty vid!

Evan, Thursday, 14 December 2023 16:45 (four months ago) link

Ricky Finn rides again

papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 14 December 2023 20:02 (four months ago) link

I've been enjoying videos of this woman quietly puttering around her cabin in the Finnish forest.. very soothing

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 December 2023 20:24 (four months ago) link

this was good if you want to watch Hainbach and Look Mum No Computer bashing out a krautrock synth EP on some weird old gear:

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 14 December 2023 20:33 (four months ago) link

kineko video posts some interesting stuff, this one is probably the most interesting yet... a late '60s/early '70s (i'd guess early '70s based on that heavy fuzz bass track, but it could be '60s) pilot for alice in wonderland, possibly put out by mushipro, with adolf hitler as the voice of the king

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 15 December 2023 19:07 (four months ago) link

‘Jet Lag the Game’ appeared in my recommendations a few times, every time I thought it looked awful because of the irritating thumbnails. But for some reason I ended up watching the first Tag Across Europe and it was surprisingly entertaining, and now I’ve seen every season. Hits just the right balance of a game show / travel / comedy thing. Adam and Ben are a genuinely funny duo.

AlanSmithee, Friday, 15 December 2023 22:06 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

Jackie & Shadow the eagles are nesting a clutch of eggs.. live 24/7
Brutal rain, wind, snow conditions

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 4 March 2024 20:36 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

are there good book youtubers?

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 March 2024 16:29 (four weeks ago) link

i like Liminal Spaces for science fiction reviews

budo jeru, Monday, 25 March 2024 19:02 (four weeks ago) link

I like Sherdstube, Bookpilled, Rambling Raconteur and Outlaw Bookseller

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 31 March 2024 01:39 (three weeks ago) link

Humor might be a bit regional but I think these videos are really funny. There are more than a few great lines on them.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Sunday, 31 March 2024 20:24 (three weeks ago) link

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