a place to talk Contrapoints, Lindsay Ellis, and anyone else anyone cares to recommend or complain about, prompted by the former's newfound level of popularity, but pls feel free to talk about any cool #content providers, not just politics folx
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:57 (two years ago) link
― 🎶 in a world of pure exsanguination 🎶 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 12:59 (two years ago) link
also there was some discussion on the second thoughts thread of Natalie being problematic in some way but I couldn't really follow it, so pls hash that out here if you are so inclined
I've heard good things abou hbomberguy but can't really bring myself to click on someone who uses formulations like "x is terrible and here's why", regardless of what the x is (well, maybe if it's capitalism).
hbomberguy is tight with the other two youtubers already mentioned so he tends to get lumped in as well, but my big problem with his videos is they're too damn long. if you care about the politics of gaming you could do a lot worse and he is quite funny and charming at times, but he could really take a page from Contra when it comes to concision
For anyone who's curious about Lindsay Ellis, her three-parter on the Hobbit films is a bit of a form-buster when it comes to YouTube video essays, particularly for the way it blossoms from an essay into an actual documentary partway through
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:03 (two years ago) link
danielfromsl has popped up on ILG plenty but I think he potentially has mass appeal. Kind of the Nathan Fielder/Eric Andre of online gaming, reliably hilarious.
― 'Rock Me (I'm a Dais)' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:10 (two years ago) link
Kinda wish this thread was a video game-free zone but whatever, that's just me. Carry on.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:13 (two years ago) link
I wish that too, but it's kind of an impossible wish given how everyone plays video games obsessively
Anyway, I have lots of quasi-viable options for this thread but I don't know which ones to foreground
― imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:19 (two years ago) link
I'll say that Jon Bois >>>>>>>
Well, NB, the only other game-related videos I really watch are Skate 3 glitch compilations so clearly I'm mostly just in it for the lols.
― 'Rock Me (I'm a Dais)' (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:20 (two years ago) link
how did I not know that Jon Bois has an entire channel
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 13:24 (two years ago) link
speaking of which, let's begin the actual youtubing with the best video on youtube
― imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:54 (two years ago) link
(although really his Pretty Good and Chart Party series are MANDATORY viewing)
― imago, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 14:57 (two years ago) link
Stevem does pretty good videos about Japanese music (from Jazz to City Pop to Japanese Hip-Hop) and the more respectable end of anime (Miyazaki etc.)
Vinilteca is good if you want to get a grasp on the Brazilian music canon but it's in Portuguese.
Strictly Dumpling is my guilty pleasure food go-to. It's pretty vapid, dude doesn't have a ton of charisma and the music's terrible BUT he does seem to know his shit and has a stomach of steal, so seeing him eat prodigious amounts of grub throughout South East Asia is pretty entertaining. I'm sure accounts like that are a dime a dozen but this one's at least well edited and doesn't have too many calls to action.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:23 (two years ago) link
incidentally, since you mentioned calls to action, if anyone doesn't know what that means, the most recent Lindsay Ellis video is a meta meditation on the youtuber business model that gets into all this stuff and it's a good overview of the madnesses inherent to the platform
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:25 (two years ago) link
Yeah, that's where I learned the term :)
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:27 (two years ago) link
I go back and forth on whether to just block Youtube entirely. As much as I like Contrapoints and free music, it's a site that activates my worst internet compulsions. Like she put it in the CTH interview, "Youtube forced me to watch it."
― jmm, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 15:30 (two years ago) link
Not crazy about how this conflates Disney and Warner Bros but whatever, I guess both could be equally restrictive in their own ways:
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 11:42 (two years ago) link
Primitive Technology, in which a man makes all kinds of things using pretty much only what he finds in the woods:
You Suck at Cooking, a fine decoction of deadpan self-deprecation and sheer absurdity:
Michael New is a guy who teaches music theory & composition basics in a very accessible way:
― a film with a little more emotional balls (zchyrs), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 12:08 (two years ago) link
scott brown carpentry & the MRE man
― single bed mentality (||||||||), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:31 (two years ago) link
I assume people know about Simone Giertz and her intentionally-shitty robots but if not well then there you go.
― Welcome to Gropelord, TX (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:44 (two years ago) link
Someone tried to get me into asmr videos because he thought it would totally be my thing. IT IS TOTALLY NOT MY THING.
― Yerac, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 18:46 (two years ago) link
I like this funny South African woman who does car reviews that contain some great real life info and also bad singing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCw6N5iNV8g (that statium is in Cape Town, by the way)
― StanM, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:22 (two years ago) link
cool channel having weirdos guide you through their tiny weirdo houseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXRJE2caPNY
in a way, it's anti-youtuber in that it's more errol morris than the "me-me-me-me i have a take on everything!" approach that youtube seems to encourage. speaking of which, I think errol morris's son has a channel where it's just him taking a bunch of drugs.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 19:37 (two years ago) link
you suck at cooking was a great call
― imago, Friday, 30 November 2018 23:10 (two years ago) link
oh yeah scott brown carpentry
― micah, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 09:08 (two years ago) link
kiwami japan's latest bestrides youtube like a colossus
― imago, Monday, 17 December 2018 00:00 (two years ago) link
Polygon did a list of best video essays of 2018, with the usual suspects (ContraPoints, Linsday Ellis) present. The last one about a scene from Tarkovsky's Nostalgia felt to me like a bunch of interesting ideas that never really came together; now I'm in the madness of the two hour video about parasocial relationships.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 31 December 2018 19:07 (two years ago) link
lol, forgot to link: https://www.polygon.com/2018/12/28/18156334/best-youtube-video-essays-2018-watch
Noah Caldwell-Gervais deserves a mention.
Ostensibly long, literate and humane retrospective reviews of video games by someone who toiled in pizza delivery, but he's also adopted a vagabond lifestyle out of a restored VW bus with his new wife, and his video essays on their journeys through the US West put the rest of his work in perspective.
― Sanpaku, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 13:43 (two years ago) link
Todd in the Shadows reviews pop music, and recently, 1 hit wonders. Wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to find he lurks here.
― closed beta (NotEnough), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:43 (two years ago) link
I watched some of the parasocial relationships series. V interesting but yeah crazy long.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Wednesday, 2 January 2019 17:45 (two years ago) link
todd in the shadows does lurk here or at least has before. one of his videos directly cited an ilm thread in the description (a compilation of songs that actually stop when the singer says stop, like the ilm thread on the same subject).
found the parasocial relationship video basically unwatchable. it was heavily rt'd by that whole circle of #content creators (a comically large proportion of ppl on that list are friends and frequent collaborators -- the fellow who wrote the list might as well have had it served up to him by algorithmically generated recommendations) so i tried to watch it around the time it came out. her intro video on the subject was good/interesting but the rest was just tediously extended to an absurd degree not at all justified by the insight provided in the commentary or the ridiculous number of clips of bo burnham. i don't think i would have even found it necessary if i were stoned.
anyway that circle of creators is sometimes informally referred to as 'leftube' or similar by its audience due to i guess being leftists and/or critical of the worryingly visible far-right factions of the site. i am personally very unimpressed by this collective's obvious awareness of, and apparent lack of interest in directly addressing, a phenomenon that any leftist viewing them will have noticed: virtually all of these creators are white, and given that most if not all of them rely heavily on cultural touchstones and memes to illustrate their broader theses, the narrowness of the cultural literacy that's evident in their work (this includes both lindsay ellis and todd in the shadows btw) will serve as a significant handicap to creating a space on youtube representing their political leanings that does not also reproduce racial separation and hierarchy. contemporary online meme culture is spawned in enormous part within black culture, so their utter cluelessness about, say, the work of any currently active black musician who isn't favorably covered on pitchfork and explicitly 'political' enough to make sense to them, coupled with their inability to include anyone who does have this level of cultural literacy in their frequent collaborative efforts is disappointing to say the least.
when this obvious phenomenon was brought up on twitter, the response from these creators was merely to retweet contrapoints's quote-tweet of a user's list of left-leaning creators of color along with the message "let's make leftube more representative!" or somesuch. meanwhile i am not especially hopeful that they won't continue to collaborate exclusively with one another, continue to congregate only with one another at fan meet-and-greets, #content creator conferences and the like, etc. etc. maybe one of them will retweet kat blaque or the1janitor once every month or something.
i have unsubscribed from both of the 'leftube' creators to whom i'd previously subscribed (contrapoints and hbomberguy). while i will probably continue to enjoy their work when i do come across it, i would rather spend whatever time i use actively seeking out content looking for creators who are not creating networks (because these creators are not just creating content, but networks of content!) that are so insular.
― dyl, Wednesday, 2 January 2019 20:06 (two years ago) link
that's a fair criticism. I would hope that in time the network becomes less insular but at the same time I'm happy to throw some $$ at anyone fighting the RW content machine and doing so in a way that's engaging
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 3 January 2019 02:11 (two years ago) link
this has 1.1k *replies* so far
Have my videos helped to change your viewpoint (about the Alt-Right, trans issues, whatever else)? Are you willing to talk to a journalist about it? Respond to this tweet if so! 🙏🙏🙏— Natalie Wynn 🦋 (@ContraPoints) January 10, 2019
― resident hack (Simon H.), Saturday, 12 January 2019 02:30 (two years ago) link
I'm a bit less fond of Hbomber because I think he makes less effort to be approachable to the opposition, very different from Contra and Shaun the skull.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 January 2019 13:23 (two years ago) link
learned a lot from the latest Contra video
has anyone else noticed a marked uptick in complaining about the garbage YouTube recommendations?
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 16:51 (two years ago) link
and speaking of Hbomberguy, he's currently like 27 hours into a Twitch charity stream for Mermaids and is up to $100k, so I think it's safe to say the community is growing
― resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 02:08 (two years ago) link
Retail Archaeologyhttp://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR2LNeZSqINp0WTd_eWCIGgDead malls, zombie retail stores, etc
― calstars, Sunday, 20 January 2019 03:35 (two years ago) link
Harris is still going, $133k / 33hrs
― resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 06:38 (two years ago) link
youtube's sidebar recommendations are inexcusably shit and compromised and i feel guilty about continuing to use youtube knowing sidebar recs still exist but honestly i find youtube too useful to seriously consider quitting.
― The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 January 2019 14:00 (two years ago) link
hey so @AOC HAS JOINED THE STREAM GO WATCH AND DONATE https://t.co/Fz8plugN5y— Mary Ellen (@alissacaliente) January 20, 2019
― resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:23 (two years ago) link
I just caught the very end. Crazy.
― jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:27 (two years ago) link
I can't see it well on my phone, what's the $$ up to?
― resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:29 (two years ago) link
Over $221k. Since I clicked a few minutes ago they've made about five thousand.
― jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:35 (two years ago) link
I don't feel old until I see how popular twitch streams are.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:36 (two years ago) link
I wonder whether AOC is a gamer.
― jmm, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:38 (two years ago) link
I would say not because it is a total time suck and she seems actually really productive.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 January 2019 23:39 (two years ago) link
Good enough for me.
Here’s @aoc talking about how Nintendo 64 was the best system. She’s on @twitch helping to raise money for trans kids. pic.twitter.com/cJIfUif1mv— New Super Blood Wolf Moon Bros. U Deluxe (@GenePark) January 20, 2019
― jmm, Monday, 21 January 2019 00:56 (two years ago) link
Loved the Youtube episode, Simon. You each found your way to a different circle of hell.
― jmm, Friday, 25 January 2019 02:15 (two years ago) link
Ha, thanks! We suffered for your entertainment.
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 02:40 (two years ago) link
Ash Sarkar interviewed Harris
― resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 25 January 2019 14:23 (two years ago) link
perhaps a cum factory lives in you
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Friday, 13 November 2020 03:55 (three months ago) link
listen I feel like this thread has maybe gotten too personal? I'd like to just focus on the raccoons
― the burrito that defined a generation, Friday, 13 November 2020 03:58 (three months ago) link
xp That's what my dad told me as a boy. I guess I just stopped believing.
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 13 November 2020 03:58 (three months ago) link
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Friday, 13 November 2020 08:38 (three months ago) link
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 13 November 2020 19:14 (three months ago) link
has anybody mentioned this guy yet, i enjoy his videos (most of which have less swearing)
― lukas, Monday, 16 November 2020 03:08 (three months ago) link
the bigfoot all gas no brakes is fucking greatcan AGNB get a thread already
― Four Seasons Total Manscaping (forksclovetofu), Monday, 16 November 2020 06:05 (three months ago) link
― pomenitul, Monday, 16 November 2020 14:49 (three months ago) link
first AGNB i didn't like tbh
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 01:57 (three months ago) link
does AGNB only interview people/stuff he doesn't actually like, or is that just an editorial strategy for rackin up the clicks?
he's good at what he does, and godbless ye the COVID for isolating me this year so that I can familiarize myself with the content that I'm probably too old for anyway, but is this really what the kids are approving and wanting more of? from what I can tell it's just Vice but from a more kosher funding source
― the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:12 (three months ago) link
even when it's not madlads and madlasses he has obvious affection for and it's more expressly political, he'll always give people on the 'progressive' side a platform to speak as well
― imago, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 10:09 (three months ago) link
that said i couldn't watch the bigfoot one
australian youtuber 'I did a thing' remains the best tho
― imago, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 10:11 (three months ago) link
enjoyed bedroom anthropologist and his relationship with his stuffed jay, ty lukas
― imago, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 10:18 (three months ago) link
the great explorer of our age has returned, now with 1x girlfriend on kayak-dragging duties
― imago, Sunday, 22 November 2020 22:25 (three months ago) link
Great to end the week with some GeoWizard straight line adventures. A promising start, I guess things might get a lot trickier...
― brain (krakow), Sunday, 22 November 2020 23:01 (three months ago) link
boutique vodka infused with greek flavors named Feta Alcohol Syndrome.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 15:53 (three months ago) link
This Franco-Ontarian one-man orchestra specializes in mostly acoustic covers that effortlessly capture the lockdown spirit of 2020:
First one comes with a bonus doggo.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 December 2020 23:51 (three months ago) link
Really into this guy lately
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 December 2020 00:12 (three months ago) link
i love that pump up the jam
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 6 December 2020 05:56 (three months ago) link
not sure what to make of this guy yet, but, he's a hobo. he rides the rails
― goole, Friday, 11 December 2020 16:44 (two months ago) link
i have watched exactly 0 of their vlogs but this goat farm has live barn cams that i put on all the time during the workday
― goole, Friday, 11 December 2020 16:46 (two months ago) link
oh i just realized ilx mucks up youtube urls hang on
Hobo Shoestring looking out over Chattanooga:
Syman Says goat barn LIVE:
― goole, Friday, 11 December 2020 16:49 (two months ago) link
if u really need some slowness in ur life, here's the Duluth Harbor Cam
― goole, Friday, 11 December 2020 16:51 (two months ago) link
Thomas Johnson Antique Furniture Restoration, 187 Flaggy Meadow Rd, Gorham, ME
― goole, Friday, 11 December 2020 16:53 (two months ago) link
^ have really enjoyed his videos recently
― budo jeru, Monday, 14 December 2020 18:36 (two months ago) link
Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that lots of YouTube series in 2020 are nominated in the 2020 ILX TV poll:
ILX's Best Television of 2020 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 29, 2021
If you like any particular series and would like to see them have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:45 (one month ago) link
New ContraPoints out. Topic: J. K. Rowling.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:21 (one month ago) link
this should go great
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:24 (one month ago) link
I haven't watched it yet because it's, well, 1h30 mins long, but I look forward to hearing her deliver the line 'He never said he hated the jews. He is simply concerned about the overrepresentation of Jewish people in media and banking' (quoted in the YT comments).
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:26 (one month ago) link
I'm skipping that one because it's about JK fucking Rowling and I cannot countenance any further promotion (see "Streisand rule") of her or anything related to her fucking media empire, which has poisoned the brains of at least two generations at this point.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:30 (one month ago) link
anecdotally I have some normie friends who only became aware of trans issues when this Rowling thing exploded and Contra is good at laying out situations in a way that reaches those types so this is good
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:32 (one month ago) link
yeah I'm only a few minutes in and I like her approach already, I think this is actually useful
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:36 (one month ago) link
framing it as "let's use this as a case study to determine the nature, origins and methodology of bigotry" is a pretty good angle, or at least it hooked me, and her videos have been hit or miss for me lately
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:38 (one month ago) link
I watched it today.
As an old "normie" ish guy I think she was very good at spelling out the red flags and tropes that I could easily miss.
― new variant (onimo), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:30 (one month ago) link
yes I thought this was one of her best, a lot of the jokes land and she navigates dissection and (the appropriate amount of) empathy as basically no one else I am aware of in the "same field" even cares to try to do
― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:53 (one month ago) link
I watched yesterday and totally agree it's one of her best in the last year. She's very good at foregrounding the concerns of the opposing view in her videos in a completely uninflammatory way that (I imagine) disarms those people before they've had a chance to look away from and knee-jerk refute her explication of things. At least some comments seem to suggest this is the case.
Loved the idealism at the end too that Rowling could be the one in a million to change her outlook. If anything could work...
― tangent x (tangenttangent), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 21:49 (one month ago) link
Watched it last night. Don't have anything to add other than: everyone otm.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:20 (one month ago) link
― imago, Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:21 (one month ago) link
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 15:00 (one week ago) link
The Raccoon Whisperer has expanded his horizons and remains extremely wholesome
― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 04:43 (one week ago) link
lol Zen School Of Motoring got a BBC deal!
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 27 February 2021 15:06 (one week ago) link
I am addicted to a few music reaction youtubers, not in a particularly healthy way, I keep staying up late impulsively going through their channels picking out all the songs I like. if I could stop after 2 or 3 it would be fine, but no, I do not have that kind of self control.
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 00:45 (three days ago) link
Same. I find it fascinating to watch people react to early Rage Against the Machine for some reason.
― underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 04:45 (three days ago) link
I'll watch any reaction video where they do Great Gig in the Sky
― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 04:55 (three days ago) link
yeah I have seen plenty of RATM and Pink Floyd, current favourite is Dave's performance of Black from last year's Brit Awards.
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 10:56 (three days ago) link
big all gas no brakes energy: nyc edition herehttps://www.instagram.com/sidetalknyc/
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:38 (three days ago) link
Did any of his Capitol footage come out?
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:48 (three days ago) link
dude has a tv deal, i'm sure he's either saving it for or to directly promote that, would be hard to imagine more valuable marketing
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:49 (three days ago) link