Rolling Western U.S. Is On Fire / Wildfires Thread

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scary stuff in northern california right now. we're approaching the peak of it but wildfire season gets longer every year.

macropuente (map), Monday, 30 July 2018 19:43 (two years ago) link

still two months or so to go before the rains hit Oregon. yeah, scary shit

sleeve, Monday, 30 July 2018 19:44 (two years ago) link

this wildfire smoke map / forecast is wild:

https://airquality.weather.gov/sectors/conus.php

macropuente (map), Monday, 30 July 2018 19:55 (two years ago) link

that interface is wonky but the "vertical smoke integration" forecast seems to show smoke drifting all the way to the lower mississippi valley.

macropuente (map), Monday, 30 July 2018 20:00 (two years ago) link

miraculously, we have not gotten serious smoke in Eugene yet. last year was much worse, but I think it's just pure chance (and weather patterns) that we aren't totally inundated at this point.

sleeve, Monday, 30 July 2018 20:07 (two years ago) link

The #CarrFire that is burning through Redding, CA has now destroyed nearly 1,000 homes.

It's still just 20% contained and has burned an area *three times the size of San Francisco*.

Six of the 20 most destructive fires in California history have happened in the past 10 months. https://t.co/BcK4gNmnPX

— Eric Holthaus (@EricHolthaus) July 30, 2018

macropuente (map), Monday, 30 July 2018 22:18 (two years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjZpEKYUYAII-qS.jpg:large

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 19:09 (two years ago) link

Was in Ashland, OR last week, which is about two hours north, and the smoke was so bad is was classified as "hazardous." Lots of people wearing masks, or at least staying indoors. Related, we were in Santa Rosa, too, which was hit super hard last year, but aside form a few "thank you" monuments to firefighters I never would have guessed.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 20:44 (two years ago) link

from a friend, and I totally buy this theory"

[Now these developers are starting arson fires in Cali to force people to flee north where these prices are “normal”!

Sixteen thousand rental units in Portland are sitting empty

sleeve, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:51 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...
one year passes...

https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/s6tqdm/picture235504772/alternates/FREE_768/Screen%20Shot%202019-09-26%20at%2011.44.07%20A_fitted.jpeg

After he was arrested, Graham told investigators he and his wife had planned to drive along Calaveras Road near the reservoir together before her death in 2018, according to the news outlet. A report by investigators states: “Because she passed away and could not be with him, it made him emotional, starting the fires.”

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 29 September 2019 18:53 (one year ago) link

The blackouts, which were projected to begin early Wednesday just after midnight, were likely to affect parts of San Jose, Oakland and Berkeley but not San Francisco or Sacramento, PG&E said. https://t.co/myow89C8eu

— Breaking News (@BreakingNews) October 8, 2019

"Can't blame us for fires if we shut off the power grid"
Roll-Safe-tapping-finger-to-head.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:45 (one year ago) link

PGE recently spent $79 million on lobbying, got $1 billion in tax rebates, made a profit of $4.8 billion and hiked executive pay 94% https://t.co/ELHZLLlKn2

— reclaim UC (@reclaimuc) October 9, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 06:57 (one year ago) link

Saddleridge fire being investigated as caused by sparking SCE electrical tower despite residential outages.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 13 October 2019 16:01 (one year ago) link

This is normal right?

Black smoke and fire from Nustar Energy refinery pic.twitter.com/nuuCOuiVS9

— KTVU (@KTVU) October 15, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 22:07 (one year ago) link

I guess this isn't technically a wildfire but still (wait for it...):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-u4BeyqyP8o

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:23 (one year ago) link

I have to say, between the fires and now smoke from a burning refinery, this ad is in pretty poor taste for Californians. #smokeandmirrors#banSUVs https://t.co/RrLBRrM9Ow

— Dr Kristina Hill 🏳️‍🌈 (@kzhill) October 15, 2019

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:30 (one year ago) link

There are approximately 42 fire units at Nu Star incident from agencies around the Bay including- Contra Costa County Fire, Crockett Fire, Rodeo-Hercules Fire, Pinole Fire, Richmond Fire, CAL FIRE and the East Bay Regional Park District and overhead from the East Bay IMT.

— Con Fire PIO (@ContraCostaFire) October 16, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:16 (one year ago) link

Interstate-80 is the major conduit from the SF Bay Area to Sacramento & beyond...

https://i.imgur.com/jNYX0hs.png

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:20 (one year ago) link

...and is forecasted to be closed for another 6+ hours.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:21 (one year ago) link

More PG&E power outages coming over the next few days, some could last as long as 48 hours.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 21:45 (one year ago) link

Outages already reported in Northern Sonoma County.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:03 (one year ago) link

The wind woke me up early. Reminded me of how it was the night of the Tubbs fire. First thing I did when I woke up was check to see if there was a fire and wasn’t too surprised.

beard papa, Thursday, 24 October 2019 15:13 (one year ago) link

possibly no bueno with the Getty Fire in L.A., w/the strongest Santa Anas of the year supposedly arriving tonight. the air quality seems to be okay around the city, i assume the winds are blowing the smoke out to the ocean.

there are a dozen or so people on my FB marking themselves "safe" from this fire despite most living in idk Highland Park or Silver Lake or East Hollywood.

omar little, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:08 (one year ago) link

haha i assume it's to ward off calls or messages from family who live out of the area?

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:25 (one year ago) link

I heard some terrifying dystopian references (2nd-hand w/o source) about people trapped in their "smart" homes as flames approached, because the power outage meant the "smart" locks couldn't be opened, and the internet was down so they couldn't reach anyone for help?

any source or link for that wld be appreciated

Book Doula (sleeve), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:28 (one year ago) link

I would think any door would have to have a failsafe way to open from the inside, for a house fire, etc.

nickn, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 18:40 (one year ago) link

I would think any door would have to have a failsafe way to open from the inside, for a house fire, etc.

that's a pretty non-contestable requirement of CA Fire Code for buildings

sarahell, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

and we all know how much rich techbro assholes feel about public safety regulations

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 19:22 (one year ago) link

Cue Silicon Valley Jared and the driverless car scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UBdrMTxsvs

nickn, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:15 (one year ago) link

if you die in a fire because of your "smarthome" maybe you... aren't that smart

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:17 (one year ago) link

"Open the pod doors HAL"

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 20:34 (one year ago) link

SF is on fire and TIME is on it (view quickly before it is deleted):

As fires continue to ravage different parts of California, watch as firefighters face massive flames in San Francisco pic.twitter.com/lFjNOQiBqV

— TIME (@TIME) October 29, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:12 (one year ago) link

lol

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:13 (one year ago) link

The Zack House by Craig Elwood burned by the Getty fire in Los Angeles.

https://www.facebook.com/KCMODERN/photos/pcb.2525595454199945/2525593230866834/?type=3&theater

nickn, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:33 (one year ago) link

xp RIP Time tweet

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 00:04 (one year ago) link

the reagan library is now threatened by the blazes

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 16:46 (one year ago) link

nine months pass...

bump

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 August 2020 13:44 (eight months ago) link

CalFire admits in presser this morning that they have NO resources to fight this. Like, NONE. Guess why? Bc the prison populations, who have for decades been California’s primary firefighter hand-crews on wildfires, are too sick with Covid to go. https://t.co/ZZKIpsN5lc

— RH Herron/Rachael Herron (@RachaelHerron) August 19, 2020

sleeve, Thursday, 20 August 2020 14:02 (eight months ago) link

well, not exactly NONE. but yeah, that is bleak. $2 to $5 a fucking day for the work, too, which probably makes it the highest paid position available for them

The GOAT Harold Land (Karl Malone), Thursday, 20 August 2020 15:43 (eight months ago) link

it would be disgusting even if they weren't exposing themselves to immediate and long term danger for that wage. absolutely unconscionable.

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 20 August 2020 15:50 (eight months ago) link

https://earther.gizmodo.com/the-climate-danger-of-kamala-harris-prison-labor-legac-1844712734 this suggests it's $5/hour? not that it makes a difference. (n.b. in spite of myself i don't place much of the blame for this on kamala herself, article doesn't do a great job of explaining how the AG's office got to the point of filing that. however, it's not justifiable.)

contorted filbert (harbl), Thursday, 20 August 2020 16:23 (eight months ago) link

Anyone know the likelihood of Santa Cruz city having to evacuate? My sister lives there, and this is cranking up her nervousness...

DJI, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:06 (eight months ago) link

(caveat that i'm just some guy, not a firefighter) It's not too close yet but I'd be concerned about the cluster that just broke out south of Henry Cowell State Park (https://www.esri.com/en-us/disaster-response/disasters/wildfires) . CalFire's general policy is to greatly favor protecting residential areas over parks so I wouldn't be surprised if they're already doing controlled burns around UC Santa Cruz.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:15 (eight months ago) link

xp: She should be fine if she's in town. If she's up the coast or in the hills off Hwy 9 she's probably already evac'd.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:22 (eight months ago) link

I don’t really want to reveal where I live (not Santa Cruz) but um I have a bag packed. 😬

brimstead, Thursday, 20 August 2020 20:57 (eight months ago) link

DJI: this account has all the latest information

https://twitter.com/CALFIRECZU/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 20 August 2020 22:13 (eight months ago) link

yeah getting kinda ptsd from it - cant even imagine ppl who are going through evacuations or losing property for a second time

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 01:43 (six months ago) link

4 yrs ago next week, early on a Monday morning, my parents emergency evacuated from their home. This Monday morning, for the 4th time in 4 yrs, they are uncomfortably close to a major fire. I’m a climate scientist and I study global warming. Even I can’t process this step change.

— Abigail Swann, PhD (@ecoclimatelab) September 28, 2020

Voulez-vous un coup d'etat, ce soir? (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 07:10 (six months ago) link

was reading about The Restaurant at Meadowood’s burning, it is kind of shocking.

Dan S, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 22:31 (six months ago) link

oh what I didn’t know that! :(
i ate there 10+ years ago, one of the best & fanciest meals of my life

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 September 2020 22:48 (six months ago) link

Orange skies
Carnivals and cotton candy and you
And I love you too you know I do...

They're back! At least here in Oakland... it was supposed to be in the 90s today, but the smoke is blocking the sun

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:09 (six months ago) link

it was definitely in the 90s yesterday in Oakland ... today isn't as bad.

sarahell, Friday, 2 October 2020 20:25 (six months ago) link

though if you were somewhere where it _wasn't_ in the 90s I wanna know where that paradise is!

sarahell, Friday, 2 October 2020 20:28 (six months ago) link

it was even horrible and gross in Alameda, and it's a fucking island, surrounded by water!!

sarahell, Friday, 2 October 2020 20:28 (six months ago) link

we can see the California smoke in Oregon today

sleeve, Friday, 2 October 2020 22:27 (six months ago) link

Bobcat flare-up near Mt. Wilson this afternoon. ugh.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 3 October 2020 00:20 (six months ago) link

did the observatory survive after the last round?

sleeve, Saturday, 3 October 2020 00:22 (six months ago) link

Everything at Mt. Wilson and Stony Ridge survived but it was uncertain for a couple of days there. Even after all this, there are still little canyons up in the Angeles NF that haven't seen fire in decades.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 3 October 2020 00:31 (six months ago) link

Someone rendered the 2020 CA fire perimeters to date on a topo map, and it's striking.

― Disgraced, committing sudoku (Sanpaku), Wednesday, September 23, 2020 7:38 AM (one week ago)

this is pretty incredible. wondering if you could point me to where you saw this, who did it, etc.? i'm kinda hoping there's one for Oregon.

alpine static, Saturday, 3 October 2020 01:20 (six months ago) link

Sorry alpine, I saw it on r/MapPorn. I think its by a regular there that does ray traced 3D topo maps, but can't recall the name.

Sanpaku, Saturday, 3 October 2020 06:30 (six months ago) link

no problem, thank you!

alpine static, Sunday, 4 October 2020 23:26 (six months ago) link

five months pass...

great news for all you wildfire fans out there

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwxDXxZUYAc9EWS?format=png&name=medium

map ca. 1890 (map), Friday, 19 March 2021 17:22 (one month ago) link

high plains wind + fire danger

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Monday, 29 March 2021 18:28 (three weeks ago) link

There is a LOT of smoke, and winds are picking up (as forecast). Some of us here are a little skittish in this drought....

(Not my photo, from a HS group on FB) pic.twitter.com/hCPxk5KIi7

— Terre Logsdon (@terreal) March 28, 2021

Controlled burn in Lake County CA. I'll bet you a beer/kombucha we're not doing enough of these.

lukas, Monday, 29 March 2021 20:20 (three weeks ago) link

Probably not. Controlled burns are incredibly important not just for prevention of wildfire spread but for the soil and habitat, too.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 15:22 (three weeks ago) link

Gotta say, though, Lake County is truly one of the weirdest places in all of California.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 15:22 (three weeks ago) link

o t m

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 17:29 (three weeks ago) link

Quite!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 17:38 (three weeks ago) link

I've been to most of California and I endorse that message.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:07 (three weeks ago) link

Residents here raise holy hell when controlled burns produce smoke that drifts to habited areas. Total lack of awareness of the trade off of short-term pain to achieve long-term gain. Obviously it's the same group of ppl who are incapable of thinking long-term and big picture on just about every issue ie republicans.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:43 (three weeks ago) link

There's also some weird nutty lib types who seem to not understand "why they're burning the forests!" or whatever. I remember having to essentially yell at a person I knew, well-educated and good-natured, who couldn't understand why groves of eucalyptus were being shorn down in the Berkeley hills. Eventually I gave up, she got really into alternative medicine and yoga, and now seems to travel the world (despite pandemic) to exotic locations to practice her art or whatever. Or at least that was what she was doing when I unfollowed and unfriended her because her existence annoys me so much.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:31 (three weeks ago) link

And eucalyptus trees are a non-native, invasive species!

DJI, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:35 (three weeks ago) link

and a serious fire hazard iirc? high in oils?

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:36 (three weeks ago) link

MMMMMMMMmentholated

DJI, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:39 (three weeks ago) link

I was in Lake County last August when the lightning strikes started dropping everywhere... it was really freaky and tons of fires stared almost immediately; it's a land that's meant to burn

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:44 (three weeks ago) link

Eucalyptus trees are so full of oil they kinda explode when they catch fire

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 21:02 (three weeks ago) link

I've driven the 20 through Lake County a number of times— I used to live in Butte County and would do occasional work in SoHum, so it was the easiest way across and then up. I tried my damnedest to never, ever stop in any of those towns if I could help it. It was like I could smell the meth cooking through the car windows.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:57 (two weeks ago) link

(I also drove through on the 20 when the southern part of the county was on fire, it was incredibly surreal to look south and see hills on fire and just keep driving as if it was totally normal)

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 16:58 (two weeks ago) link

Eucalyptus trees are so full of oil they kinda explode when they catch fire

I already knew they were Bad but this is hilarious

lukas, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 17:34 (two weeks ago) link

they're apparently cutting down a lot of eucalyptus in the Berkeley hills

we've got a whole goddamn forest of the stuff in the middle of SF (Sutro open space preserve)

lukas, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 17:35 (two weeks ago) link

The history of eucalyptus trees in CA is pretty nuts

I

By the early 1900s, the get-rich mindset had caused many aspiring forest tycoons to plant countless acres of eucalyptus in hopes of selling the timber for a tidy profit. It’s estimated that there were over 100 companies involved in the eucalyptus industry at this time, and they changed the landscape of much of California.

But investors were soon to discover that the eucalyptus weren’t all they’d hoped them to be.

Sadly, most of these schemes went the way they infamously did for Frank C. Havens. Havens was an Oakland developer who opened a mill and planted eight million eucalyptus trees in a 14-mile-long strip from Berkeley through Oakland. But when he came to sell the timber, it was found that the trees were too young to make suitable wood; the young wood had an irregular grain and it bent, cracked, and shrank when dried. It is true that eucalyptus trees from Australia could make good timber, but those trees were decades or sometimes centuries old. It was soon found that eucalyptus trees would need to be at least 75 or 100 years old for good lumber. The young wood didn’t even make useable fence posts or railroad track ties, both of which decayed rapidly. Havens closed shop.

DJI, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:17 (two weeks ago) link

Yeah, I remember reading about the same a while ago because of arguments that I'd get into with pro-eucalyptus people. I admit, I think they smell and look lovely, but dammit, they don't belong!

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:43 (two weeks ago) link

I hate the way they look, at least in contrast to the native species. Every time I'm up in one of the regional east bay parks, I can't help commenting about how dreary and washed-out they look. And the stuff they drop makes for treacherous footing.

beard papa, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 18:55 (two weeks ago) link

They do smell amazing but so do native california plants! I get overwhelmed by *fragrances* when i go back home

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:48 (two weeks ago) link

there are pro-eucalyptus people? this state is irredeemable.

lukas, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:52 (two weeks ago) link

Eucalyptus here def look v scraggly and sad

But i am a fan of the Australian ones obv :D
When they are healthy & growing enmasse, they give off a blueish haze when viewed from far away that i love. And the smell is <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 19:57 (two weeks ago) link

I grew up in Oxnard (mostly) where they'd been planted as windbreaks for the farms (the blue gum variety, I think). Went to college in Santa Barbara, where they'd planted a bunch of the lemon-scented ones everywhere, so I still associate those scents with my youth. I like them but recognize they don't belong here.

nickn, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 20:07 (two weeks ago) link

I do think they're pretty sometimes

lukas, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 20:12 (two weeks ago) link

, she got really into alternative medicine and yoga, and now seems to travel the world (despite pandemic) to exotic locations to practice her art or whatever. Or at least that was what she was doing when I unfollowed and unfriended her because her existence annoys me so much.

lol I want to know who this is!

sarahell, Monday, 5 April 2021 04:18 (two weeks ago) link

I don't think you know her— classically pretty blonde with a Brit accent who dated D4v1d BuUcK

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 5 April 2021 15:32 (two weeks ago) link

I know a D4v1d BuUcK from work but I can’t imagine it’s the same one you know. The D4v1d BuUcK I know helped invent HDMI.

DJI, Monday, 5 April 2021 15:50 (two weeks ago) link

xp - I think I might know of this person through "my channels" lol

sarahell, Monday, 5 April 2021 15:54 (two weeks ago) link

DJI, the one I'm talking about is a poet, professor, and activist. Not the same person.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:34 (two weeks ago) link

If anyone has ever camped at Chabot Family Campground.. you've basically camped in New South Wales.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 5 April 2021 19:45 (two weeks ago) link

When I drove from Sydney to Brisbane, I couldn't get over at how much of flora/topography reminded me of driving in inland Orange and San Diego counties.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 22:43 (one week ago) link

Not looking forward to wildfire season in California this year. And feeling pretty bleak about every year after that, too.

lukas, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:33 (one week ago) link


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