US Politics, April 2018: Getting more dangerous (looks like moo vaughn's dreams are coming true)

Happy Easter.

The pastor answered that America had a long history of unjust laws and that it was the duty of Christians to stand with “the outcast.” He invited people to come meet this person that the government now considered an “ICE fugitive,” a designation that applies to more than a half-million undocumented immigrants failing to comply with final deportation orders. Come see the fugitive.

By summer, Rosa’s voice was hoarse from telling her story over and over to the steady stream of people stopping by, including the volunteers who slept on a mattress in the pastor’s office every night within reach of a folder scribbled with emergency instructions: “If ICE shows up, DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR UNLESS THEY HAVE A BENCH WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE!”

By fall, she found herself standing with a group of people holding candles to mark her first 100 days in sanctuary, noticing that many of them were wearing T-shirts with a drawing of her face and the slogan “Rosa Belongs Here.”

By winter, she was realizing that her best hope for a solution — a bill to legalize her status that would have to pass in Congress — was exceedingly remote, and soon, Rosa stopped reading political news altogether.

No room at the inn.

we're putting gabbneb's handle in thread titles instead of banning him, eh

I’m sorry for being sick of ostensibly intelligent people having no memory and no ability to do math. That country exists right now. We live in it. Read the fucking polls and remember the popular vote.

For fuck’s sake.

― El Tomboto, Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:43 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Dude, people on every side of the election were taken by propaganda that flattered their worldview. Even ostensibly intelligent people have to make the individual effort to avoid being conned.

― Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:47 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sorry, not that many people voted for Jill Stein.

― fajita seas, Sunday, April 1, 2018 9:33 PM

Then again, this shit's about as bad

"remember the popular vote," and the Maine

how is it I never heard of these shirts before btw?

The key word in the Trump "Fuck Your Feelings" t-shirts wasn't "feelings" but "your" pic.twitter.com/dTAkmHFBxk

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) October 21, 2017

First comment perfectly sums up my reaction to the photo: 'Resting Whiteface'

Remember when the epithet "flip-flopper" used to be contemptuously applied to politicians who compromised on their earlier stated positions? Trump doesn't even bother to have reasons for jumping around from one position to another. He just uses agitation as a substitute for direction, as in "look at all that commotion; he must be getting things done!"

Yabbut no one should be surprised; he sold it in advance as a-feature-not-a-bug. "We're too predictable!"

And people bought it, no doubt because of the way his luxuriantly flowing hair spoke eloquently of promises made, sang lustily of promises unkept because Fuck You, and shouted about not giving a shit because Fuck Your Feelings

this is the worst thread title yuck can we change it?

oh come on "getting more dangerous" was clearly the most memorable phrase used by somebody about something last month and Moo Vaughn is a poster on this board and I always like it when a local kid succeeds.

I honor you for your service to our country and out of respect to the office I will only say that I disagree Mr. President.

Thread titles haven't topped last June's covfefe imo

if you don't want to spend the first 100 posts bitching about the thread title then don't wait so long that I end up being the one to start the new thread. Keep an eye out for when the first of the month happens on a weekend!

remember that time qualms and I both made the thread and he conceded? I still feel bad

The President of the U.S. dresses each day in a W.C. Fields costume he bought from a SPIRIT Halloween Store but throws away the top hat, he buys 365 W.C. Fields costumes a year https://t.co/O4sTUZMc7l

— 🇺🇸Bill Oakley🇺🇸 (@thatbilloakley) April 2, 2018

was this on last month's thread? it's all the rage.

How America's largest local TV owner turned its news anchors into soldiers in Trump's war on the media: https://t.co/iLVtKRQycL pic.twitter.com/dMdSGellH3

— Deadspin (@Deadspin) March 31, 2018

yes it was covered. I was a grump about it because I don't think it's anything to be that upset about (unless you work at one of those stations) but apparently OLD PEOPLE watch local tv news and they VOTE so

Look I'm sorry you didn't like my post but you asked "who the fuck watches local TV news?" and the truth is lots of people do. Seems like you think it doesn't matter much what all those people see on local news, fine, that could well be right and is a point worth discussing.

I'm sorry you didn't like my post either.

I found this detail of interest.

A former Sinclair journalist sent me a screenshot of their contract. “I couldn't leave because of this part of my contract.” pic.twitter.com/ePCnUCbzs0

— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) April 2, 2018

under what terms can a journalist leave for which he won't get penalized – death?

I just don't think the Sinclair thing even rises to the level of an allegory in miniature of what is wrong with America / The World right now. I'll grant that that contract seems hideous but that kinda sounds like nonunion show business for you.

So funny to watch Fake News Networks, among the most dishonest groups of people I have ever dealt with, criticize Sinclair Broadcasting for being biased. Sinclair is far superior to CNN and even more Fake NBC, which is a total joke.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 2, 2018

He's thinking of NBC's '90s Must-See TV lineup.

I'm not gonna debate wrt the impact of local TV news but Sinclair shit is still creepy af and disturbing and should absolutely be called out.

are contracts like that binding in right-to-work states?

Dear Mr. Trump, Sinclair also owns NBC stations, you fucking idiot.

For those that dismiss him as a doofus, John Oliver did a great in-depth piece on Sinclair a while back, perhaps the first I'd really heard of the company:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvtNyOzGogc

"No Sinclair! Bad dog! You will NOT get this treat because you have been a very bad boy! Bad boy, Sinclair, BAD boy!"

sorry, i can't stop doing that and i know it's annoying

https://scontent.fbed1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29597888_10156776141827137_8110674733258816789_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=12e655da05fe034e6b2f5c530d19b26c&oe=5B6CE653

Nice to see that Spicer is still getting paid gigs from time to time.

got a little extra orange at mar a lago this weekend

I'd like to see what gif magic Karl could do with that pic.

lol Karl

"When you ask a porn star who they’d been sleeping with, and the answer was Donald Trump, it was the least surprising thing that she could’ve said. She did mention it, actually,” Rogen recounted on Ellen.

why t f would you think it was your business who she'd been sleeping with, seth??

Maybe they’re friends!

if they were friends he would have already known

They are friends, and she told him ten years ago.

i'm sure they are total buds.. the way he phrased that was gross is my point. as if asking porn stars who they're sleeping with is something he does on the reg.

I don't know who all my friends have slept with and, for the most part, hope I never know

when my friends have slept with famous people they usually make sure I know about it. I doubt they'd brag about Trump tho.

Gotta feeling ol' Sam N was singing a bit after his public bender there.

Roger Stone said in an Aug. 4, 2016, email: “I dined with Julian Assange last night.” Now, Mr. Stone says, “I never dined with Assange.” Either way, it's gotten Robert Mueller's attention https://t.co/iBPFUeom4U

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) April 2, 2018

Stormy Daniels was in both the 40 Year Old Virgin and Knocked Up, as was Rogen, who starred in the latter. Knocked Up came out in 2007, which means all the Trump stuff was either happening or just happened when they were making it. Of course Rogen would want to be buddies with her, and of course she would probably have talked about Trump, who was fresh in memory. The In Touch interview was four years later, in 2011, so apparently the Trump experience stuck with her.

the Trump experience stuck with her

ew, sticky

Having sex with Donald Trump doesn't seem like something you'd forget about.

nor like something you'd try to remember

Idk i mean if u get gored in the running of the bulls, you wanna forget but the memory won't die

I think that if you have sex with people for a living, who you had sex with becomes a pretty common conversation piece.

And I'm sure that if it had happened to you, one of your go-to anecdotes would become that time when you were on the receiving end of frottage by a squamous walrus. It's a helluva yarn to have in your arsenal.

helluva yam etc

https://i.imgur.com/tzEdz38.jpg

thankyou

I really don't think it's a coincidence that they chose softball coach.

they'll prise it from his cold, short fingers

Trump's, er, ICE pick steps down.

back upthread, but man every time I see the Left willfully cannibalizing itself to talk about "going high", I can't fathom how stupid they are to realize they're playing into what the GOP wants. I mean, had Wolf actually said heinously offensive fat/appearance-shaming shit we should rightfully criticize her for it regardless of who the intended target is, but Christ.

I hate virtue signaling as a term but some of the Lefties on my FB wall almost, almost, almost make me understand why the term is used (but I still hate it so fuck that).

The sad thing is that I'd argue that the majority of people in the general public making those complaints are just parroting responses from the DC media elite rather than, y'know, forming an opinion of their own.

man will Kelly be embarrassed when he gets fired after Barron reads that article to his daddy

Maggie Haberman has a legitimate (if ultimately gross and indefensible) reason for defending the virtue of SHS in the face of imagined slights. Jimmy Joe NYTsubscription, not so much.

in a couple years rebellious prankster Barron will be calling the NY Post gossip reporters, posing as 'Baron'

I mean, had Wolf actually said heinously offensive fat/appearance-shaming shit we should rightfully criticize her for it regardless of who the intended target is

if there's an interpretation of "shooting fish in a Chris Christie" that does not involve fat-shaming I'd like to hear it

the fact that there's even debate about whether these jokes told during a friggin roast were even about SHS's looks shows how relatively milquetoast they were. and obv it's one thing for people on the Left to debate it and decided if they were "over the line" and another for the party whose leader said much more direct and mean things about women's appearance (without even being clever enough to do it in joke form!)

Yeah, who cares. Let's talk more about John Kelly, or the ICE guy, or Trump, the perpetual implied punchline to every joke.

The lesbian interpretation is reaching, IMO - the gym / PE teacher is the archetypal bully.

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, April 30, 2018 4:09 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I really don't think it's a coincidence that they chose softball coach.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, April 30, 2018 4:09 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I would find it offensive if Sanders actually were a lesbian. I don't really see it as inherently homophobic to compare a woman to a gym teacher otherwise.

It has nothing to do with being a lesbian, it has everything to do with a burly woman.

Posting here because, well, not sure where else to post this.

"Reality snapped into focus the morning we drove into Downs (population 844). I’d been in a close friend’s wedding there in the 1980s, and the tiny, one-street downtown had teemed with life back then. My friend’s father owned, edited, and published the local newspaper. Another friend’s dad ran a successful real estate company. It took those girls forever to walk anywhere; everyone wanted to stop and chat. Downs had 1,324 residents in 1980—36 percent more than it has today.

Thirty years later, the blank faces of empty storefronts line the main drag. Oddly, one of the last remaining businesses we found was a well-stocked grocery store, though no one was shopping inside the brightly lit aisles. When we asked where we could get a cup of coffee, the cashier directed us to the gas station outside of town on the two-lane state road. A pot of brown water on a quick mart hot plate was the best the town had to offer.

Everywhere, I felt the absence—of people, of commerce, even of sound. The silence was broken only by a vintage pickup truck pulling up to the Downs grain elevator, huge mounds of excess grain piled high on the ground all around it.

That image—abundance at the center of a depopulated landscape—sums up the reality of rural Kansas. Yes, the harvest continues to be bounteous. But it masks a harder truth: Kansas’s plentiful grain crop has come at the expense of nearly everything else."

https://newfoodeconomy.org/rural-kansas-depopulation-commodity-agriculture/

I do appreciate that in the Tweet photo above, Kelly's expression seems to say "can you believe this shit?"

Uh oh, advocates for GODLESS REASON! On whose behalf would we wage war?

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/385573-dem-reps-launch-congressional-freethought-caucus

xxp thanks Raymond, that's a good read

you're welcome, sleeve. Here's another one that a FB friend passed along to me when I showed him the Kansas article.

https://story.californiasunday.com/resnick-a-kingdom-from-dust

It has nothing to do with being a lesbian, it has everything to do with a burly woman.

Then I guess "she looks like a softball coach/gym teacher" doesn't seem like a terrible insult to me.

It's not, in the scheme of things, but it is generally inferred to mean she is not attractive.

good lord, even glancing at these mueller questions for trump has me sweating, and i didn't even do anything wrong. i love the phrasing of "After the resignations, what efforts were made to reach out to Mr. Flynn about seeking immunity or possible pardon?" "what efforts" suggesting "we know about some already, don't even start with your bullshit

I just thought there was enough people in the press corps to actually play softball. Who cares. SHS can eat so many useless bags of dicks in a hetero normative way.

and this one: "What was the purpose of your May 12, 2017, tweet?"

James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 12, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/us/politics/questions-mueller-wants-to-ask-trump-russia.html

Jesus christ, how had I already forgotten that Giuliani is Trump's attorney now?! I tell ya, this ridiculous timeline we've found ourselves in...

more feed for the right wing. The internet never forgets.

"What was the purpose of your April 11, 2017, statement to Maria Bartiromo?"

He's going to plead the fifth isn't he? We're going to get a present pleading the fifth.

XPS GOP all like, "Ladies be deletin'..."

I bet Trump literally would be unable to answer these questions.

Yep.

Will he even remember some of this?

These were all leaked by Rudy, right?

or he's just going to straight up lie about some of them, which will be interesting because in some cases I'm sure they have evidence. the repercussions for lying during the interview are?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/26/mueller-trump-obstruction-of-justice-russia-216532

it's perjury to lie to the special council iirc xp

That's old, but Renato is saying these questions affirm his belief that Muller will charge Trump obstructed justice.

xpost

small potatoes, but no name is smugger than 'freethought caucus' xxxxxxpost

couldn't any number of staffers have mentioned that at some point during brainstorming?

Trump is not going to be interviewed by Mueller. Which is why the questions got leaked at all.

This is some party (i'm not sure on which side) jockeying for advantage via the press, as usual

I know I've said it before, but although a Democratic House might move ahead with articles of impeachment in 2019 over perjury and obstruction charges, the Senate Republicans wouldn't vote to convict in sufficient numbers to remove Trump unless there's evidence of much worse crimes added to perjury and obstruction. Also, an impeachment inquiry would suck all the air out of the Congress and D.C., so that nothing else would get done.

I suspect we're all stuck with this goon for the full term of office, even if the foundations of the nation crumble around his feet.

I never thought we wouldn't he unless he choked on a burnt umber piece of KFC horseflesh

My prayers haven't been answered and yet I persist.

If Mueller can get firm evidence for massive Trump Organization criminal activity, we might see more daylight open up between Trump and the Republicans in Congress in a hurry.

nah

who would be left to vote for the republicans in congress if they abandon trump?

if Trump had sex with a goat on camera, they'd call him a zoologist.

this is pretty funny

Ben Shapiro offends himself with a Michelle Wolf joke he wrote. @michelleisawolf @benshapiro pic.twitter.com/tYpl5giRTr

— Vic Berger IV (@VicBergerIV) May 1, 2018

US Politics, May 2018: How Broke Is He?

alright let's go fuck up this month