Your 2020 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

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Well, since Gabbneb still isn't here to kick around anymore I guess I'll take the reins again.

Danny gets the honors:

I think it would be reasonable for any of the following Democrats to run for President:

Cory Booker
Kamala Harris
Tim Kaine
Julian Castro
Amy Klobuchar
Deval Patrick
Tammy Duckworth
Tom Perez
Keith Ellison
Donna Brazile oops, sorry
Kirsten Gillibrand

This is by no means an exhaustive list.

― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, November 10, 2017 3:31 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:07 (five months ago) Permalink

medicare and social security for all. free college tuition. tax the rich to pay for it

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:08 (five months ago) Permalink

And I guess for Republicans we have:

Trump
Cruz
Sasse
Kasich?

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:09 (five months ago) Permalink

Moore

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:09 (five months ago) Permalink

I assume Sanders will run again until/unless he explicitly rules it out

Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 21:10 (five months ago) Permalink

Kasich is almost a certainty.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:11 (five months ago) Permalink

the four women on that list are more impressive than any of the men imo

Dan S, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:12 (five months ago) Permalink

Dolores is missing from this list

Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 21:14 (five months ago) Permalink

Is that Sarah Sanders?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:25 (five months ago) Permalink

here we go

sleeve, Saturday, 11 November 2017 00:51 (five months ago) Permalink

eff gabbneb and this thread

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:21 (five months ago) Permalink

aka "This is the thread where we make premature ejaculations"

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:24 (five months ago) Permalink

the rock
tim tebow

brimstead, Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:34 (five months ago) Permalink

I don't think there's any chance whatsoever that Pop would run, but I wouldn't not vote for him.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:50 (five months ago) Permalink

lol morbs. How long ago was gabbneb banished? Seems like about ten years ago now.

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Saturday, 11 November 2017 14:16 (five months ago) Permalink

his crackpot insights into the political affiliations of the critical ozark mountain czech-american bloc were a thorn in the side of the 2016 threads iirc

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 11 November 2017 14:24 (five months ago) Permalink

How long ago was gabbneb banished? Seems like about ten years ago now.

gabbneb was banned about four or five years** back, then he returned for at least a year as benbbag (or some such moniker). that gabbneb had come back was not a secret. he behaved for a time, then was banned again maybe a year** back.

**chronology subject to a weak memory for such trivia

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 18:47 (five months ago) Permalink

I feel like the Democrats have a ton of great VP candidates, but no Presidential candidates yet.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:18 (five months ago) Permalink

Julian Castro would have been a great VP pick this time IMO (and probably in 2020) but he doesn't have Obama's charisma to leap from minor political office to President so quickly.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:22 (five months ago) Permalink

He's kind of screwed in that regard, though, Texas won't be electing a Democrat to a statewide office just yet.

louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:23 (five months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

The Inevitability of Kamala Harris

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 3 December 2017 18:13 (four months ago) Permalink

Kamala Harris would make for a very interesting race, assuming Trump survives to run again as incumbent. Her presence on the ballot would ensure Trump would retain all the social conservatives whose hatred of Hillary was deeply entwined with her being a woman and perceived as a liberal and feminist. On the flip side of that, Harris would easily grab HRC's core constituencies for herself.

The main interest for me would be in what issues she chose to highlight as the definition of her politics and how she'd react to the inevitable attacks about being 'soft' (iow, being a woman). Would she hit hard on profressive issues, or soft peddle herself as a centrist, or 'triangulate' in a Clintonian way?

Any way, a national campaign is a brutal trial by fire. I wish her well, if she decides to run.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 3 December 2017 19:38 (four months ago) Permalink

I still see the Dem nomination coming down to Harris vs. Gillibrand, and I'd be ok with voting for either.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 3 December 2017 19:42 (four months ago) Permalink

i really dig gillibrand.

sean gramophone, Sunday, 3 December 2017 19:50 (four months ago) Permalink

For this outsider, after the last month or so, I really don't see how the nomination goes to anyone but a woman. The anger and the energy is there, and I would assume anyone trying to portray it as 'tokenistic' or only about identity would be shouted down pretty fast.

Frederik B, Sunday, 3 December 2017 19:58 (four months ago) Permalink

"Inevitable" is an albatross as a political tag

Οὖτις, Sunday, 3 December 2017 20:09 (four months ago) Permalink

The one that seems to be getting dragged down by the 'inevitable' tag is Bernie, or is it just me? That that profile of Harris includes so many snide remarks about his voters illustrate that quite well, imo.

Frederik B, Sunday, 3 December 2017 20:42 (four months ago) Permalink

i really dig gillibrand.

I can't remember if it was Pod Save America or Axelrod's podcast where she did it, but Gillibrand openly and convincingly apologized for a vote she once cast and that she now has a full understanding of why it was the wrong side to take on an issue (gun related legislation, iirc) and I've never heard a politician on any level in either party be so contrite and willingly admit to being wrong. That won me over on her for sure (and voting no on all of Trump's cabinet appointments for as long she did helped).

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 3 December 2017 21:19 (four months ago) Permalink

At the Women's March almost a year ago, Harris was a shockingly flat public speaker. I wonder if she has improved since then? Compared to the fired up Duckworth and Gillibrand, she just wasn't that compelling.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 December 2017 21:39 (four months ago) Permalink

Gillibrand wanted to run in 2016 but that was not going to happen with Hillary around. But she is well connected in NY and is very good at raising money.

Not really sure what the core source of love for Harris is.

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 3 December 2017 21:50 (four months ago) Permalink

Also, the Kamala article mentionsJason Kander as a possible candidate.

Randall Jarrell (dandydonweiner), Sunday, 3 December 2017 22:00 (four months ago) Permalink

re Johnny Fever

I think I heard the same (Axelrod) interview, and it's largely responsible for my pro-Gillibrand feelings. Contrast the way she talks about this stuff - or, say, Bill Clinton on The Daily - with Kamala Harris's bland calculations and I know where I fall. Even pre-election, she was loudly advocating Sanders and Warren.

sean gramophone, Monday, 4 December 2017 00:40 (four months ago) Permalink

I would really prefer not to have a prosecutor as president tbh

Simon H., Monday, 4 December 2017 00:41 (four months ago) Permalink

(re: KH)

Simon H., Monday, 4 December 2017 00:41 (four months ago) Permalink

I’d take Harris over Booker every time, at least

.oO (silby), Monday, 4 December 2017 00:45 (four months ago) Permalink

My guess would be that criminal justice reform is going to be a bigger issue than it was in 2016, and whether or not that hurts or helps KH I don't know. According to that article she could run on that issue if she wanted to, and I'd guess she'd win if she managed to do so.

Frederik B, Monday, 4 December 2017 12:02 (four months ago) Permalink

former prosecutor is not a career path that leads one to restrict fellow prosecutors' discretion, which is what is necessary to accomplish criminal justice reform.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/are-prosecutors-the-key-to-justice-reform/483252/

El Tomboto, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:03 (four months ago) Permalink

agreed

my current faves: Gillibrand, Duckworth, and Oregon's Junior Senator Jeff Merkley.

sleeve, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:15 (four months ago) Permalink

"Inevitable" is an albatross as a political tag

especially 3 years out from an election

flappy bird, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:18 (four months ago) Permalink

i really dig gillibrand.

I can't remember if it was Pod Save America or Axelrod's podcast where she did it, but Gillibrand openly and convincingly apologized for a vote she once cast and that she now has a full understanding of why it was the wrong side to take on an issue (gun related legislation, iirc) and I've never heard a politician on any level in either party be so contrite and willingly admit to being wrong. That won me over on her for sure (and voting no on all of Trump's cabinet appointments for as long she did helped).

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, December 3, 2017 4:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think it was immigration actually, unless she's done it twice, in which case all the better.

evol j, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:21 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

The Secret to Understanding Kamala Harris

Alan Watts (dandydonweiner), Thursday, 11 January 2018 22:32 (three months ago) Permalink

nothing to add here pic.twitter.com/ARYNwCaqA3

— Shuja Haider (@shujaxhaider) January 12, 2018

Simon H., Friday, 12 January 2018 13:52 (three months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Warren says she's not running.

http://www.newser.com/story/256430/warren-not-running-for-president-but-hedges-on-one-thing.html

Simon H., Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Warren is pretty clear about it every time she gets asked. I don't know why it makes news sometimes and doesn't at others.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:59 (one month ago) Permalink

I have no idea whether she will in fact run, but anytime anyone says "I'm not running" without further specification, they should be understood to be referring only to the present moment and not any future moment.

Moo Vaughn, Sunday, 11 March 2018 21:05 (one month ago) Permalink

Warren will not run.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:24 (one month ago) Permalink

but who will unite the dems, whoooooooo

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 11 March 2018 22:30 (one month ago) Permalink

my memory is that bob dole did seem kinda funny sometimes but i think i might be subconsciously confusing him w/ norm macdonald.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

maybe this is an unpopular opinion but idk trump isn't funny

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i'm having bad flashbacks to a terrible sarah vowell column from the early 00s where she argued that gore should have tried to present himself as a lovable, self-deprecating nerd instead of an uptight, pedantic nerd.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think the candidate who has the best vision for America always wins

― had (crüt), Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:19 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Got it, you think Trump had the best vision for America

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:29 (three weeks ago) Permalink

maybe this is an unpopular opinion but idk trump isn't funny

other than some of his old, exceptionally petty tweets, this is correct, he as a person is not funny (and is of course a loathsome creep and all the rest). watching chuds like Cruz and the like helplessly flail around unsure of what to do or how to get a foothold was absolutely funny, though

Simon H., Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Garcetti's got at least one "hang out with a politician who definitely doesn't have larger aspirations -- at a bar!" appointment in Iowa coming up following a speaking gig, seems suspicious

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:30 (three weeks ago) Permalink


He is right in this instance, though. How does the funny candidate hypothesis explain Clinton and Gore winning the popular vote?

― Frederik B, Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:14 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the electoral lollege

― Simon H., Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:18 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

thank you, Simon

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was pretty good.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Trump's "humor" is the kind of thing that gets that cruel, grunting laugh people do when they're expressing disdain or mocking someone. There's no catharsis in it, just a really insecure sense of superiority

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Dole was good for an acerbic putdown or two, so he was sometimes funny, but never was Dole "personable."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

At the annual Gridiron Club dinner, an event in Washington, DC largely devoted to political humor, Senate Republican leader Bob Dole told a story about a recent event when he saw former presidents Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter, and Richard Nixon standing together on the podium. Dole claimed that he told people to “Look! Hear no evil, see no evil, and evil (Nixon).”

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

maybe this is an unpopular opinion but idk trump isn't funny

he's not but he was at least funnier than Hillary "Pokemon Go to the polls" Clinton. the way he destroyed and humiliated Jeb is still hilarious. and in retrospect clearly the peak of his political career.

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:44 (three weeks ago) Permalink

when you realizing his dissing of anyone and everyone isn't outright hostility but his incredibly poor attempt at banter, it makes more sense

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

he's not but he was at least funnier than Hillary "Pokemon Go to the polls" Clinton

ok why are you doing this

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 18:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

howard stern lives in his brain iirc

mh, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Explains the rest of his post

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:10 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ok iirc howard stern lives inside of flappy bird's brain let's not get it twisted

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Trump not funny ever. Hillary so cringey and awkward, no wit. Biden funny like my pervy uncle. I would imagine WJ Clinton to be pretty funny--I'm sure someone can weigh in on that.

Reagan had pretty good wit, if you're into that sort of thing. Gore's always seemed forced in public.

Milking the Soft Power Dividend (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 19:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Al Gore never quite 'belonged' as a seminary student, but he came mighty close.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I think the candidate who has the best vision for America always wins

― had (crüt), Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:19 PM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Got it, you think Trump had the best vision for America

― Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:29 PM (one hour ago)

did you seriously just post this right after saying "Gore beat Bush FYI"

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yes. Had the vote been properly counted, Gore would have "won the electoral college" as well as the popular vote.

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Moo, I flagged your posts for blabbing incessantly about an argument we all established was "incredibly dumb"

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

But if you want to hang the response on those ties, crut can feel free to defend Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon.

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

"we all" - sorry, you don't get to decide that, but I can flag you in kind if you'd like

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i thought Moo Vaughn was a reference to moveon.org in the first place

― had (crüt), Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:54 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i thought it was a cow-based pun on the former mets first baseman

― MooVaughn.org (voodoo chili), Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:56 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It definitely can't be both

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:22 (three weeks ago) Permalink

And speaking of dumb arguments - Clinton can be funny, but I don't understand the notion that funny is one of his generally recognized characteristics. Hillary reportedly can be quite funny and almost scarily broadly-informed behind the scenes.

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

speaking of unfunny pedantic nerds

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Maybe instead of writing nine long-winded paragraph, you could've just written an Animaniacs-style song about how old each president was.

stormzy daniels (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:26 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Yes. Had the vote been properly counted, Gore would have "won the electoral college" as well as the popular vote.

I will never ever tire of seeing this.

Milking the Soft Power Dividend (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 28 March 2018 20:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ok iirc howard stern lives inside of flappy bird's brain let's not get it twisted

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:20 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i keep him on the porch now

flappy bird, Thursday, 29 March 2018 00:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

lots of things are going to come into play in 2020 that will be different, i think most obvious being that I can't imagine many Dem candidates if any having the same baggage via reputation and years of whispers about fake crimes that Hillary did

― omar little, Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:45 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"years of whispers" (i.e. bullshit), ok, but otherwise this is potentially naive - some anticipate that something will be trumped up against any prospective nominee, quite possibly with falsified evidence.

― Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, March 28, 2018 5:52 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/03/what-we-can-learn-about-the-ludicrous-kirsten-gill.html

See what I mean?

Moo Vaughn, Friday, 30 March 2018 17:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

ah yes, paste magazine, beloved political commentary journal

mh, Friday, 30 March 2018 18:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I didn't realize paste was doing non music until earlier this week when I read them getting slammed for not paying writers. fuck a paste.

akm, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

paste has been a lesser jacobin for a few years now

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:06 (three weeks ago) Permalink

That’s the joint where Imani Gandy took a huge personal beefshit on Walker Bragman for writing for and I couldn’t figure out which one of them was punching down

El Tomboto, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I see. No right-wingers have started a whisper campaign about Kirsten Gillibrand (as was obviously inevitable), because one of the many responses pointing out that it was bullshit (and one of the two or three most prominent among google-pushed news search results for Gillibrand today, which also include beloved political commentary journal WaPo - https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/03/29/fake-kirsten-gillibrand-flap-reveals-double-standard-in-our-politics/) was published by a source I've previously called out, got it.

Moo Vaughn, Friday, 30 March 2018 19:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

stfu

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:18 (three weeks ago) Permalink

stfu

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, March 30, 2018 7:18 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 30 March 2018 19:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

thanks for the update, Brad. I had no idea, I still think of it as a paper magazine that seemed to sell middling rock/indie/folk acts to white dudes in their 30s

mh, Friday, 30 March 2018 20:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I still think of it as a paper magazine that seemed to sell middling rock/indie/folk acts to white dudes in their 30s

Get u a mag who can do both

Johnny Fever, Friday, 30 March 2018 21:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Thomas E. Dewey, GOP presidential nominee, 1944 and 1948.

As for elected national politicians, Charles Curtis, VP from 1929-1933 and Thomas R. Marshall, VP from 1913-1921

The last fully bearded presidential nominee was Charles E. Hughes, GOP nominee in 1916.

#DeleteFacebook (Sanpaku), Saturday, 31 March 2018 03:39 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Jesse!

https://i.imgur.com/rKyfpla.jpg

Karl Malone, Saturday, 31 March 2018 04:03 (three weeks ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbdXSrM0m9w

Moo Vaughn, Saturday, 31 March 2018 04:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

2012 was such a good GOP primary. Everybody had the lead for two weeks.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 31 March 2018 04:25 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i remember newt being like "oh i'm going to be the no-minee" and he kept repeating that and emphasizing the first syllable of "nominee" for some reason

flappy bird, Saturday, 31 March 2018 04:51 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I was pumping gas last night and a guy at an adjacent pump asked me "so who ya voting for? newt?" I was kind of dumbstruck as to why anyone would ask a complete stranger who they're voting for in the GOP primaries.

― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Friday, March 2, 2012 10:11 AM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this guy might have been Newt in a wig fwiw

― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Friday, March 2, 2012 10:12 AM (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

had (crüt), Saturday, 31 March 2018 05:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

lmao

flappy bird, Saturday, 31 March 2018 05:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

lol

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 31 March 2018 05:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink


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