The Jordan Peterson Thread

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Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 22:21 (one year ago) link

lol

symsymsym, Thursday, 14 July 2022 01:14 (one year ago) link

_this was before he busted out with the TERC stuff, the C standing for Conservative_

This always confuses me because in Canada his public fame only occurred *as a result* of his transphobia, but tbf I don't expect non-Canadians to be aware of Canadian politics. And of course it's possible even in Canada that people were into him before his Bill C-16 lies went viral (though his podcast began a couple months after he released his videos about the bill & "political correctness").

I'm not trying to bust anyone here; I had to double check the timeline myself. But I'm wary of revisionist narratives like the link posted upthread (not your story hardcore) becoming accepted, because there was never a non-professional-transphobe JP in my version of reality.


It’s entirely possible probable I’ve got some of the timeline wrong; my brain is a slippery little eel. But my story is certainly how I experienced it, and I do remember selecting episodes to listen to when getting into his podcast — grabbing topics that sounded interesting to me, and if there were ones called like “Bill C-51 and free speech” or whatever I would likely have glossed over those in favour of ones like “The thirsty dragon: an archetype of addiction” or whatever. So maybe I ran through the less rebarbative stuff first and then started picking up on the less savoury content when I’d exhausted the mythological stuff. I dunno.

I do know I didn’t hear word one about JP from any source other than my friend for what seemed like a good long time after I knew him as a loopy kermit. And then suddenly he was EVERYWHERE.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 14 July 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

the anti-bill c-16 stuff in september 2016 is what gave him the initial boost of popularity, made him a darling of the canadian right, and brought in the funding which he used to really expand his output, which further boosted his profile. he didn't start his podcast until december 2016, a few months after that happened. before that he'd been only making youtube videos, largely covering the courses he taught, nothing really blatantly reactionary in the way that he is now. in april 2016, he only had 5600 youtube subscribers, and his most popular video had 65k views and was on existentialist philosophy, and that was really the extent of his popularity until the anti-bill c-16 stuff. i'm sure relatively early on in the podcast he wasn't anywhere as focused on the reactionary politics and still just focused on his weirdo psych/philosophy stuff

ufo, Thursday, 14 July 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

JP healing religious divides as only he can

Lmao pic.twitter.com/Rel2IJpzo1

— ishmael n. daro (@iD4RO) July 14, 2022

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 14 July 2022 08:21 (one year ago) link

lmao indeed

mh, Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:31 (one year ago) link

"heaven forbid, a Jew!"

symsymsym, Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:41 (one year ago) link

"Shiites, find a Sunni pen pal" is the much funnier line imo

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:45 (one year ago) link

Muslims, clean thine rooms!

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

Jews, eat a lobster.

dan selzer, Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

Jordan Peterson invites you to join him pic.twitter.com/2vPLvVRFaP

— very tall bart (@TallBart) July 14, 2022

politics is about vibes and the vibes are off (stevie), Friday, 15 July 2022 13:33 (one year ago) link

😂

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 15 July 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Lol

Look who is at Michaela today! 🥰
@jordanbpetersonpic.twitter.com/nKJFg0OOtG

— Katharine Birbalsingh (@Miss_Snuffy) September 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 16 September 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link

good that's she stopped pretending her state-sanctioned child abuse has educational aims

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 12:22 (one year ago) link

just trying to work out what characters these two aging comic-con desperados are supposed to be

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 12:45 (one year ago) link

Where JBP goes, comedy is sure to follow

Jordan Peterson was so moved by what he was seeing, as our little year 7s zoomed past shouting, ‘Morning Miss! Morning Sir!’, tears fell. ☺️ https://t.co/jSQjNBJjQ6

— Katharine Birbalsingh (@Miss_Snuffy) September 16, 2022

I tweeted two photos of Jordan Peterson visiting Michaela and someone reported me to the police for hate crime and various others have demanded Ofsted inspect us immediately.

The world has gone mad. 🙄

— Katharine Birbalsingh (@Miss_Snuffy) September 16, 2022

Is this person the U.K.'s answer to Michelle Rhee?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 September 2022 21:14 (one year ago) link

just looked up Michelle Rhee and while not great she doesn't sound anywhere near as despicable as Katharine Birbalsingh.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 16 September 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

"Someone reported me to the police for hate crime" LOL

GTFO.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 September 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

That guy’s always crying at literally anything

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 16 September 2022 21:26 (one year ago) link

Ten points from Spliffenpuff.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 16 September 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

“Miss Snuffy”

sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 16 September 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

this headline man pic.twitter.com/uAWAw8sKE7

— BORG (@borgposting) September 30, 2022

Karl Malone, Friday, 30 September 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link

So what was this?

four weeks pass...

Book #4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcTH-fEHIE8

formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 02:34 (one year ago) link

It is so flabbergasting that anyone takes life advice from this wreck.

an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 14 November 2022 02:37 (one year ago) link

“gamify romance”

circa1916, Monday, 14 November 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

there's a lot to take issue with but i'm going to start with the ultimate goal of marriage

call all destroyer, Monday, 14 November 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link

make the bed.. more than her. it's how you win!

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 14 November 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

Rule #7 for keeping the spark alive: Absence makes the heart grow fonder. e.g. put yourself in a medically induced coma in a Russian rehab facility. She will love you twice as much when you come home.

two weeks pass...

This cunt is in Australia and merrily wading into culture wars - invited to Parliament House by right-wing headbangers, trying (and failing) to influence the result of a state election via amplifying transphobic misinformation, now whining about the widespread practice of acknowledging indigenous custodianship of land. There's probably more but I can't face actually looking at his cursed timeline.

In short, it was a much more pleasant world when threatened little babymen like this guy were deprived of the megaphone of Twitter.

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Monday, 28 November 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link

His tour is basically the Unfuckable Men of Australia tour

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link

No cause too odious

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:44 (one year ago) link

not interested in this guy making speeches or tweeting, please update the thread when he puts himself in another coma from malnutrition or whatever even more stupid thing he will do next time.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

This seems...not great.

Don't mind me, just leaving this one here for posterity. pic.twitter.com/3XyhszKoWw

— Phrost (@Phrost) November 29, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link

What a despicable asshole

Has climate change denial always been part of his repertoire? Very banal observation but: it's striking how the real grifters in this scene don't really have a coherent politics of any kind

rob, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

Conservatives in no wanting to conserve anything shocker

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link

So I'm going to guess that it's the WOKE that is somehow making antisemitism a "moral necessity" right?

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

I have no idea WTF he is talking about in that tweet, and I reckon he does not either.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

But I bet he savored saying it.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 03:13 (one year ago) link

Is he saying someone else says antisemitism is a moral neccesity? Either that or he welcomes hell? I dont get it.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:03 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I think he's trying to say "when anti-semitism becomes perceived [e.g. by Kanye] as a moral necessity". I don’t see how the rest makes sense if he’s advocating anti-semitism as a moral necessity.

But whatever, he can defend his dumbass tweet himself

jmm, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:13 (one year ago) link

every possible interpretation of that is bad but uh yeah some are a lot worse than others

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:15 (one year ago) link

it's striking how the real grifters in this scene don't really have a coherent politics of any kind

yeah it was really notable watching him operate in Australia, just this series of scattergun interjections on "controversial" topics - ie those that are gonna get him some attention - i guess this guy's core brand for dumbos is "i am just fearlessly talking common sense", which can be tidily mapped onto whatever shitty prejudice he is spruiking and confers the superficial appearance of some kind of consistency

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 04:17 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I think he's trying to say "when anti-semitism becomes perceived [e.g. by Kanye] as a moral necessity". I don’t see how the rest makes sense if he’s advocating anti-semitism as a moral necessity.

Yeah I'd say that's the canonical interpretation but I think he's also aware that part of his fanbase will take it differently and willing to play into that while maintaining plausible deniability.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 30 November 2022 10:53 (one year ago) link

I think he is saying that the excesses of liberal society — “wokeness” — have provoked people into antisemitism, in the same way that the “degeneracy” (hitler’s word) of the weimar republic set the stage for nazism. He is saying antisemitism is bad, maybe, but that it isn’t the fault of the antisemites. Liberals made them do it.

treeship., Wednesday, 30 November 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

It’s almost as bad as being straightforwardly antisemitic honestly. He is playing into the logic of antisemitism.

treeship., Wednesday, 30 November 2022 12:15 (one year ago) link

He's basically saying anti-semitism is the fault of the jews and when hell (i.e. the holocaust or whatever) happens again it will be deserved.

The Bankruptcy of the Planet of the Apes (PBKR), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

His whole thing has been conservative Christianity for quite some time, which usually tends to come along with certain views that have recently been glossed over by US evangelical support for Israel.

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 30 November 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link


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