The Jordan Peterson Thread

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you were joking in a grand sense, maybe

treeship., Monday, 8 February 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

i used to live near cathy newman and saw her quite a bit in a nearby restaurant

plax (ico), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

sadly treesh i don't think i've done anything in the grand sense my whole life :/

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

xps this becomes about excuses when we have to constantly remind everyone how these people are lost and hurting and attracted to banal and relatable things as well as misogyny and white supremacy. like who cares. we had too much of this in 2015-17 already. misplaced empathy

Left, Monday, 8 February 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

chaos rules and thankfully it has no gender.

Joses Chrust (map), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

chaos is queer

Left, Monday, 8 February 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

when people say they've benefited from reading him, they're talking about his stuff about embracing responsibility and personal.

They might claim this, but the real reason is the exact opposite. People like him because he gives them someone to blame their problems on like women, leftists, environmentalists, trans people, whoever. He claims to preach a message of responsibility but everything he actually says is the exact opposite, it's all about denying your personal failings and bitterness and pinning it on someone else. That's why he's so popular.

mirostones, Monday, 8 February 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

from what i gather from his defenders, his key point is that people need to accept the fact that life is painful and that the only way out of the bind is by accepting responsibility, making your life into something meaningful.

Well, they're halfway there, anyway. Now they need to read Schopenhauer and realize that life is pain and there is no way out of the bind, that life will never be anything but misery.

misplaced empathy

This is treeship's entire role on ILX.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 8 February 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

life is pain
clean your room

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

life was often painful for me before I discovered germoloids suppositories, much more useful than JP!

calzino, Monday, 8 February 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

clean your moon

Joses Chrust (map), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

"disinfect and dust your environs so you stay healthy" is much more useful advice than "clean your room" imo

Joses Chrust (map), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

People like him because he gives them someone to blame their problems on like women, leftists, environmentalists, trans people, whoever.


Correct. There are so many guys like him getting space and money to legitimise bigotry in almost any outlet you can think of, and this guy is supposed to be more respectable because he’s got a title?

scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link

do his self-help books actually contain any of the politics though?

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link

like is like "clean your room. don't use they/them pronouns if asked"

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link

?

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link

Did you read the many many posts in this thread about how he codes chaos as women/femaleness whereas order/logic/reason is male?

scampless, rattled and puce (gyac), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:46 (three years ago) link

oh i lose track of what is in the books and what is in his lectures/youtube videos etc.

Dusty Benelux (jim in vancouver), Monday, 8 February 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

I always find it odd that he peddles macho fascism-light yet speaks in a soft, Kermit-like voice and seems to cry a lot during talks. But then Hitler, prophet of the Aryan master race, was ugly, brown-haired, clownish and not very tall.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 8 February 2021 22:27 (three years ago) link

I saw him at a hockey game a few years ago and I told he sucks and it wasn't him.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 8 February 2021 22:57 (three years ago) link

One of the most embarrassing moments in my life. Now I dislike him even more.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 8 February 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

LOL, good for you.... apart from the embarrassment.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Monday, 8 February 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link

lmao

treeship., Monday, 8 February 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link

I have a friend who shares the name of famous actor Richard H@rris, and who one day in Prague spotted an old aquaintance from Bucharest up the street, disappearing into a crowd. He started calling after him, "Mike! Mike!" and then took up chase, weaving in and out of others, calling "Mike!"

Finally catching up to him, winded, he took him by the shoulder, "Mike!" The man turned around. "Mike! It's me, Richard H@arris! From Bucharest!" The man was startled, and nonplussed, because he was Dustin Hoffman.

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 February 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link

I didnt see that ending, amazing

cpt otm (darraghmac), Monday, 8 February 2021 23:42 (three years ago) link

He should've known that Hoffman's maternal grandmother was from Iași, not Bucharest.

pomenitul, Monday, 8 February 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link

I didn't know he was actually Romanian!

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 8 February 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link

it reminds me of the time i met an irish gay in london and he looked familiar and so i assumed i must know him somehow and started asking him all kinds of veiled questions about people he might knew interminably before finally just coming out and asking him how i might know him and he said "have you ever heard of the band westlife?"

plax (ico), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 07:54 (three years ago) link

Zomg you know louis walsh

scampsite (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 09:01 (three years ago) link

Daniel O'Donnell surely?

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 10:41 (three years ago) link

no it was the gay one from Westlife

plax (ico), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

I was like 'do you know a Rory who went to nuig....?'

plax (ico), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

he did not

plax (ico), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

Yes, I realized that the millisecond after I'd posted but I didn't know there was a gay one in Westlife tbh.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

the gay one in Westlife is going to be the name of my next plant, thank you

lord of the ting tings (map), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

I want that as a postage stamp.

jmm, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

update: the winner of the book club poll was the silent patient by alex michaelides (which they spelled wrong in the poll, i think)

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 10 February 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Lol. Jordan Peterson is upset that Red Skull seems to have been modeled after him in a Captain America comic pic.twitter.com/RG3ZZYydDH

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) April 6, 2021

anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

shame nobody at Marvel had any way of looking up photoreference for what a website looks like

armoured van, Holden (sic), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

Honestly "Red Skull ate nothing but meat for a year" would totally make sense to me

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link

Mgtows posting their Ls online

Mark E. Smith died this year. Or, maybe last year. (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

Honestly "Red Skull ate nothing but meat for a year" would totally make sense to me

Red Colon

anecdotal certainly but not nothing (stevie), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

holy shit im crying. ta-nehsi coates wrote a captain america comic parodying jordan peterseon's ideas with red skull. he got so mad about it. pic.twitter.com/HoZNF9SB96

— iceBER (@hidingmytag) April 6, 2021

I'm losing it

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link

the comic itself looks cringey as hell and JDP comes off as flattered/excited to me there, bad idea all around

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:14 (three years ago) link

yeah, I don't see where Peterson is mad?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link

Peterson almost died on a years long exercise to prove to the world he is a notable intellectual and not a proto-fascist self help guru, I will forever feel a sense of insecurity in him in that regard. For all the bad stuff we can say about that idiot, he does dislike the concept of white pride. I don't think he will be flattered to be the inspiration for a new rendition for one of the most famous fictional nazis we have today.

Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link

Being parodied as a supervillain by a leading liberal would be a badge of honor for someone like him, as Keith Olbermann would still be talking about it if Trump had given him a mean nickname on Twitter in 2017.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link

also, his recent book announcement died a sad quiet death so any attention is good for him right now

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link

Would need to read the whole comic, but those panels seem a little “on the nose.” The idea is that red skull is using petersonesque self help to lure alienated white men into his evil schemes?

treeship., Wednesday, 7 April 2021 02:30 (three years ago) link


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