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I've been musing devoting a thread to this guy for a while but this is motivating me right now. I can't find info on the faculty letter elsewhere but this Peterson quote (verifiable from the embedded video) is something else:

I have absolutely no regrets about going after the postmodern neo-Marxists as hard as I possibly can and I am certainly not done doing so. So, one of the thing that is going to happen, for example, in the next month or so, I have been working with a programmer who has volunteered his services and has already produced this, he has produced a website that enables people to enter text that will then classify the text as postmodern or non-postmodern and so you will be able to enter a course descriptions from universities – the course description, the professor’s name, the discipline, and the university. It will tell you the degree to which the description is postmodern and then you can decide for yourself whether you want to take that and become a social justice warrior, if that is what you think your education should be about, or if you should avoid that like the plague that it truly is … I’d like to knock enrollment in the postmodern disciplines down by 75% over the next five years. I think that I am thinking about it from the perspective of nonviolent warfare, it is that serious to me and that this would be equivalent to cutting off the supply chain. It is like the postmodernists need a continual influx of young impressionable minds in order to continue their propagandistic and society devouring efforts and I am going to do absolutely everything I can to cut that supply chain off at the source.”

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:31 (eleven months ago) Permalink

he linked the FB profiles of some associates of mine on Twitter in order to sicc his awful followers on them.

Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 19:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Standout features, to start (assuming this is not empty bluster, which is likely):
i) the level of entitlement it would take for a clinical psychology professor to decide that he should be able to decide which courses and programmes offered by his employer and which of his colleagues should survive and which should perish; does tenure do this to you?

ii) He would in fact do this, not even by applying his own judgment, but with a text-sorting algorithm that he is confident would be able to determine a course's level of postmodernism by scanning a course description (half of mine are not even written by me fwiw)

iii) postmodern neo-Marxism: is this even a real thing?

xp

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

he linked the FB profiles of some associates of mine on Twitter in order to sicc his awful followers on them.

Ugh

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

postmodern neo-Marxism: is this even a real thing

as a budding neo- (or at least contemporary) Marxist I feel I can pretty confidently state: no. He's talking out of his ass and conflating totally separate phenomena, some of which he has completely made up

Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 19:39 (eleven months ago) Permalink

not even by applying his own judgment, but with a text-sorting algorithm that he is confident would be able to determine a course's level of postmodernism by scanning a course description

he's flattering himself with the word "algorithm", for sure he's just going to come up with a list of offensing keywords and crtl-f

Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 19:41 (eleven months ago) Permalink

And he throws the ever elusive "skeletons" in there too just to make it clear he has no idea what he's talking about xpost

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 10 November 2017 19:43 (eleven months ago) Permalink

iii) postmodern neo-Marxism: is this even a real thing?

post-marxism is a thing but peterson just means "cultural marxists" or whatever. usually right-wing buzzword nonsense.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

i mean he uses the phrase "postmodern disciplines", he is just thinking of anything apart from STEM here isn't he?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

He's talking out of his ass and conflating totally separate phenomena

I don't think intellectual honesty is the goal he's aiming for.

Scholarship is boring and difficult for most people and not well-rewarded. Plunging into political controversy with all guns blazing and taking the side of reactionary conservatism, otoh, is invigorating, doesn't tax one's intellectual ability, and if you catch the eye of talent-scouts for a billionaire-funded right wing think tank, it can be enriching, too.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 10 November 2017 19:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Re: what he means by "post-modern Neo-Marxism," this Reddit post seems to get at it:

Marxism is a very broad social theory that extends far beyond its implementation in Soviet Russia and Mao’s China. Its core assertion is that whoever controls the means of production (the bourgeoisie in Marx’s writings) controls the ‘knowledge’ in society—the set of social norms, values and cultural conventions. This ‘ideology’ thus comes to be regarded as natural by everyone in society, even though it is only true in the sense that it benefits the bourgeoisie at the expense of the proletariat. Marx called this accepted ideology ‘false consciousness’.
Marxism experienced a revival in the social sciences in the 1960s as a theoretical framework for understanding how structures of power shape the social order. This approach to sociology went hand in hand with other emerging theories that questioned and challenged these relations of power (post-modernism, post-colonialism and post-structuralism in particular).
What Jordan Peterson is criticising, is a neo-marxist evaluation of how our society functions. In particular, people who believe that dominant cultural ideas are products of exploitative and oppressive elites. Which, for SJWs, is the white, cis-gendered, patriarchy.

Full thread here.

dinnerboat, Friday, 10 November 2017 19:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Just seeing this title made me retch. Not that we shouldn't talk about him, of course.

pomenitul, Friday, 10 November 2017 19:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I just find it bizarre that he (or people of his ilk) equates "SJWs" (a derisive term for people who are extremely vocal but pretty strictly about issues of representation, mostly in pop-culture stuff) with marxists of any stripe

Simon H., Friday, 10 November 2017 19:57 (eleven months ago) Permalink

fwiw, the Athenian, Critias (fl. 5th century B.C.), argued that the gods were the invention of the wealthy and powerful few, solely for the purpose of controlling the masses. So, it's not as if the idea began with Marx.

Ironically, Critias himself was a wealthy reactionary politician from a powerful family, who was the leading man among the Thirty Tryants put in place by the Spartans to rule Athens after the Peloponnesian War. He helped carry out bloody purges of democratic leaders in the city. Probably the kind of guy Jordan would approve of, except by Jordan's definition Critias was practically a neo-Marxist SJW.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:07 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I wonder where he locates his own views in relation to postmodernism. They don't seem diametrically opposed. There was an interview where he argued for a pragmatist theory of truth and said that scientific truth is secondary and less important than the pragmatic truth of religion, which has to do with utility/morality/flourishing.

jmm, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:15 (eleven months ago) Permalink

He argues that his views are rooted in biology and evolution — Darwinism, basically — in contrast to what he identifies as the social constructionism of the postmodernists. Though I'm less comfortable tossing these $5 words around than he is.

dinnerboat, Friday, 10 November 2017 20:27 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I like when he talks about religion and art, completely uninterested in his pronoun obsession, and his followers are p vile and pathetic for the most part. i do like listening to him speak though, he's entertaining as a pop philosopher. his obsession with postmodernists and marxists is also a little tiresome (i admittedly don't know much about either in depth, to the level where i could confidently call bullshit or not), but the transgender thing is really fuckin grating.

flappy bird, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

he's a total dipshit

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 November 2017 21:47 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I was just having a conversation about this with a coworker. It's a shame he has fallen into this b.s. rabbit hole. I like his lectures on Jung, religious archetypes, and "cultural dna." I find some of his arguments about the value of religious principles convincing—and I'm in no way religious. The biggest Peterson fan I know is an atheist, as I think many of his followers are. But this dude has a major chip on his shoulder about this pronoun issue. He's also clearly miffed from getting torn apart on Sam Harris's podcast. It's a bummer that he's so caught up in this shit, and with no end in sight.

Say what you want about Peterson, Sam Harris, and others of their ilk. I think it's a positive thing that these people are getting some attention. I don't remember any prominent philsophers or psychologists getting semi-mainstream attention before. And even if people are hearing these discussions through a Joe Rogan podcast, that's fine by me.

Benjamin-, Friday, 10 November 2017 21:54 (eleven months ago) Permalink

He is not getting attention for his scholarly work in psychology.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:04 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I was a fan of his from his appearances on The Agenda, a local current affairs show. And his Maps of Meaning is an interesting take on religious and mythological archetypes, in the Joseph Campbell and Northrop Frye vein. It's been disturbing to watch him elevated as this figurehead of the alt right, though I think it's also a consequence of the general polarization at the moment — he believes the "pronoun" issue (or specifically the vulnerability of our institutions like schools and the law to the machinations of radical leftists, which he sees as little different from Nazis) is a step on the path to the kind of murderous totalitarianism of the Soviet era.

dinnerboat, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:07 (eleven months ago) Permalink

If you mean Steve Paikin's The Agenda on TVO, that has always been good when I've watched it. The debate about gender was a very good and at times illuminating episode imo (although Peterson wasn't the best part of it).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:13 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It is pretty lazy and irresponsible to associate Peterson with the alt-right. I know plenty of liberals that follow him, as well as reasonable conservatives. He's getting pegged as alt-right by quite a few blogs now.

Benjamin-, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:23 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Though he isn't helping his cause by embracing Pepe, focusing his ire exclusively on the left, appearing on alt right media like The Rebel. He was on Fox & Friends this afternoon.

dinnerboat, Friday, 10 November 2017 22:28 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It's not lazy, he's embraced that group wholeheartedly. They're the reason 99% of the people who've heard of him have heard of him and they're the reason he can pull in $30k a month with his Patreon.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:28 (eleven months ago) Permalink

It is pretty lazy and irresponsible to associate Peterson with the alt-right. I know plenty of liberals that follow him, as well as reasonable conservatives. He's getting pegged as alt-right by quite a few blogs now.

― Benjamin-, Friday, November 10, 2017 2:23 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know arguing with someone like you is a waste of time because you're not ever going to be arguing in good faith, but ...

jordan peterson is directly connected to the rebel, who hosted a crowdfunding campaign for him. he associates with the worst examples of the canadian alt-right, and has intentionally built a profile based on his transphobia which he has monetized.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:30 (eleven months ago) Permalink

like when you repeatedly appear getting interviewed by people like prison paul, the leader of the proud boys, you are being quite deliberate about who you want to associate with and why

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:33 (eleven months ago) Permalink

a quick google confirms he was literally on fox and friends today

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 10 November 2017 22:35 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Marxism is a very broad social theory that extends far beyond its implementation in Soviet Russia and Mao’s China. Its core assertion is that whoever controls the means of production (the bourgeoisie in Marx’s writings) controls the ‘knowledge’ in society—the set of social norms, values and cultural conventions. This ‘ideology’ thus comes to be regarded as natural by everyone in society, even though it is only true in the sense that it benefits the bourgeoisie at the expense of the proletariat. Marx called this accepted ideology ‘false consciousness’.
Marxism experienced a revival in the social sciences in the 1960s as a theoretical framework for understanding how structures of power shape the social order. This approach to sociology went hand in hand with other emerging theories that questioned and challenged these relations of power (post-modernism, post-colonialism and post-structuralism in particular).
What Jordan Peterson is criticising, is a neo-marxist evaluation of how our society functions. In particular, people who believe that dominant cultural ideas are products of exploitative and oppressive elites. Which, for SJWs, is the white, cis-gendered, patriarchy.

See, the thing is, I'm not actually sure that this is an informed and coherent description of a real intellectual tradition, although, unlike Peterson, I recognize that intellectual history in philosophy and social science is not my area of specialization. (Marxism IS a modern grand narrative, for one thing, while I gather that postmodernism, insofar as I understand it to mean anything, involves some sort of scepticism of grand narratives.) It is more or less what he was saying on Fox and Friends, though, that postmodernism was when Marxism 'turned into' identity politics in the 60s, which seems very, very odd.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 November 2017 00:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

I really like the cultural DNA and semiotics discussion and as a non-religious person I find the religious meta-narrative stuff fascinating. I don't know his past but he seems to have gained an audience beyond his students & academia and is pursuing them and catering to them regardless of their belief system/makeup. he's an opportunist. i'm not gonna give him money but the little pop philosophy clips of his lectures on youtube are fun to listen to as someone that's really into semiotics and grand narratives. his postmodern / marxist schtick isn't really any different than what DFW was talking about in Infinite Jest, coping with the loss of God and how we have satisfied that innate religious impulse within all of us through various 'false idols' or dead ends or whatever, whether it's drugs or food or social media or hive mind cliques. I like that he mentions the Gulag Archipelago and Solzhenitsyn in almost every interview he does.

flappy bird, Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:06 (eleven months ago) Permalink

his postmodern / marxist schtick isn't really any different than what DFW was talking about in Infinite Jest, coping with the loss of God and how we have satisfied that innate religious impulse within all of us through various 'false idols' or dead ends or whatever, whether it's drugs or food or social media or hive mind cliques.

I haven't read Infinite Jest but it makes me think more of Obama-era Glenn Beck or a million right-wing conspiracy theorists (see the Rich Higgins memo or a bunch of these, in Canada: Worst National Post Columnist).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:20 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Closer to Chomsky than Glenn Beck.

dinnerboat, Saturday, 11 November 2017 03:46 (eleven months ago) Permalink

He has a vocabulary, but he's basically a "political correctness sucks, amirite?" troll. Fuck him.

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:38 (eleven months ago) Permalink

(I try not to make a practice of posting on threads about people I hate/make me mad, but as a Canadian academic, this guy has been an unavoidable nuisance for the last year or so.)

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:45 (eleven months ago) Permalink

That's where he gets his money, but that's far from all he talks about. To be fair I'm not at all interested in the internecine battles of Canadian academics.

flappy bird, Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:18 (eleven months ago) Permalink

^suggest ban

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 11 November 2017 12:05 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Perhaps he has a way to tie all this together and I'm just not aware, but yeah, it's really difficult for me to see "marxist post-modernism" as anything but a paradox.

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 11 November 2017 12:09 (eleven months ago) Permalink

To be fair I'm not at all interested in the internecine battles of Canadian academics.

He is literally talking about using his social media following to go 'as hard as [he] possibly can' after any courses, disciplines, or professors that his computer program judges to be 'postmodern' via a scan of keywords in course descriptions. This isn't about something he said on a tenure review committee.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 11 November 2017 14:19 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ftr, Chomsky never tried to prevent students from being exposed to other ideas.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 11 November 2017 18:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

ha, that's a good one and i loved the distinction between post-modern neo-marxism and cultural marxism.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 November 2017 22:10 (eleven months ago) Permalink

four months pass...

In the least shocking news ever, Bill Maher is having this asshole on his show next week.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Saturday, 14 April 2018 03:16 (six months ago) Permalink

Boring guy nobody pays attention to imo. Maher or Petersen whatever.

everything, Saturday, 14 April 2018 04:24 (six months ago) Permalink

Shit, we already had a thread for this fuck?

There’s been months of bullshit about him on the alt-right thread.

Also, fuck this guy,he’s a despicable idiot grifter and a nihilist at heart. I hope his family abandons him and his funeral is a well-oiled procedure conducted by bureaucrats wearing disposable gloves.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 14 April 2018 04:51 (six months ago) Permalink

I’m waiting for the revelation that this guy has just been a Christoph Waltz character all along.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Monday, 23 April 2018 03:27 (five months ago) Permalink

Bill Maher’s endless piping on about how he’s some arbiter of anti pc is laughable. Luckily Maher is so dumb that most guests can just shut him down

after party for the apocalypse (Ross), Monday, 23 April 2018 14:22 (five months ago) Permalink

oh, come in.. I didn't see you out there... in the dark.

welcome... welcome to Lobster Manor... a respite, or perhaps, a trap? I jape, traveler, I jape...

I think if nothing else you will find the accommodations very... clean.

yes... very clean indeed. pic.twitter.com/FrB3B2Ucq6

— lvl45 CHAOS POTUS who thinks 'the pee won't leak' (@thetomzone) April 22, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 23 April 2018 14:37 (five months ago) Permalink

should I be surprised that every comment on that video is complaining about the woman on the panel for not shutting up and listening to Jordan Peterson

frogbs, Monday, 23 April 2018 15:44 (five months ago) Permalink

was trying to figure out who he reminded me of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYAzjJRZ6HA

omar little, Monday, 23 April 2018 15:58 (five months ago) Permalink

Soy isnt great for you tbf.

Just look at the damage it's done to the short-lived people of Japan.

Eliza D., Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:40 (one month ago) Permalink

hey y'all buy my book: We're All Gonna Die Anyway So Don't Get Neurotic About Every Single Thing You Eat

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:54 (one month ago) Permalink

one of the great sins of soy from the "just eat meat" crowd is that it contains phytoestrogens

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Drink liquor
Not apple cider
Mostly bourbon

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 August 2018 17:58 (one month ago) Permalink

phytoestrogens might be bad or they might be good

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:11 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s fine to avoid soy, other legumes, grains, sugar and alcohol if you want. Eating only meat though is not fine.

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:12 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s also fine to be a vegan and eat tons of soy. Any diet that is not like based on active self harm is fine. Standard american diet probably not fine

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:15 (one month ago) Permalink

my diet is really bad :/

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Like Russian novelist bad?

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 30 August 2018 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

It’s not just a matter of personal taste - the Peterson’s are promoting this diet.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:12 (one month ago) Permalink

tbf is it really such a bad thing for him to promote possibly fatal practices to his followers

just ayin

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:15 (one month ago) Permalink

sayin

Οὖτις, Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:16 (one month ago) Permalink

sleeper agent peterson has been activated

ogmor, Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Maybe that was the plan the whole time!

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:53 (one month ago) Permalink

Tbf my cat does pretty well on close to an all-beef diet.

The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Thursday, 30 August 2018 19:55 (one month ago) Permalink

If you don’t exercise, eating a lot of meat can probably cause digestive problems and bowel problems, which can cause illnesses

I guess if you have a good digestive system and eat the right amount of meat and don’t move much it might work, but I’m doubtful

Red meat is difficult to digest on its own, without the aide of exercising and/or fibre

But i do believe different types of bodies call for different types of diets, so a vegetarian diet can actually be harmful to someone but beneficial to another

F# A# (∞), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:27 (one month ago) Permalink

Tbf my cat does pretty well on close to an all-beef diet.

― The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Thursday, August 30, 2018 12:55 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cats are pure carnivores

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:42 (one month ago) Permalink

I should publish a diet book called “the wisdom of cats” where i advise people to eat birds whole including feathers, beaks etc

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:49 (one month ago) Permalink

The occasional cockroach if it scuttles across the floor and you feel curious

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 20:50 (one month ago) Permalink

plastic wrapping

imago, Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:07 (one month ago) Permalink

It's interesting that a psychologist didn't consider that his 'cider' episode was some kind of breakdown. But I guess he's not a psychiatrist...

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:09 (one month ago) Permalink

True. It’s weird that he assumes a month-long episode of “doom” and “terror” had purely physiological causes.

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:16 (one month ago) Permalink

It also did not happen so what does a psychiatrist would say about lying to the public.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:45 (one month ago) Permalink

True. It’s weird that he assumes a month-long episode of “doom” and “terror” had purely physiological causes.

Interestingly, I've just finished reading "The Authoritarian Personality" so I know that, according to its findings, this is a trait very often displayed by those psychiatric patients who have fascistic tendencies.

Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 August 2018 21:52 (one month ago) Permalink

Someone who is enthralled by their own intellect of course isn't going to think their awesome brain would be able to be fooled by its less conscious-driven functions.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:04 (one month ago) Permalink

I should publish a diet book called “the wisdom of cats” where i advise people to eat birds whole including feathers, beaks etc

― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:49 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The occasional cockroach if it scuttles across the floor and you feel curious

― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

plastic wrapping

― imago, Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:07 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM. The Petersons are half-assing this shit.

The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:11 (one month ago) Permalink

To use an expression that might not be acceptable anymore, he sounds like an unhinged lunatic in that interview. Food sensitivies can certainly affect mood but they cant, alone, trigger an episode like what he describes.

To be fair to him, i’ve had depressive episodes where i had very poor quality and intermittent sleep and this lasted for weeks. I can kind of grasp the kind of thing he is taking about but it just can’t have been the cider, unless the cider made him feel like the “order” of his system became unbalanced, but that is a psychological response

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:14 (one month ago) Permalink

imago at 5:07 30 Aug 18

plastic wrapping
The stickers from produce.

how's life, Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

No sleep for 25 days is of course a lie. And it’s really not good practice for a psychologist to exaggerate their symptoms in such a maudlin way.

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Un-clinical. Unchill.

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

he sounds like an unhinged lunatic in that interview

My cat acts like an unhinged lunatic sometimes. A little timeout usually helps.

The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:17 (one month ago) Permalink

Honestly i kind of want to write this cat book. it’s mote than a diet, it’s a lifestyle change

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Do it! We won't say it was inspired by a thread dedicated to Jordan Peterson.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:23 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean, if he’ll write the forward it would be great for sales

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:25 (one month ago) Permalink

It all started with Rule 12.

The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:51 (one month ago) Permalink

Lmao

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:53 (one month ago) Permalink

That would be so perfect. Jordan peterson + paleo tie-in, drawing on some vague idea probably from ancient egypt that cats are our *true* ancestors

🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, 30 August 2018 22:54 (one month ago) Permalink

treesh you could make a million dollars on that book title alone

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 August 2018 23:37 (one month ago) Permalink

Eagle eye treezy

F# A# (∞), Friday, 31 August 2018 01:06 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

TL;DR: guy takes his girlfriend to see Jordan Peterson speak, she immediately tells him she wants to see other people, he doesn't understand why. pic.twitter.com/CSQjGyNUrX

— Sturgeon's Law (@Sturgeons_Law) October 18, 2018

I’m sure lots of you have seen this already but for those who haven’t...

gyac, Friday, 19 October 2018 17:47 (three days ago) Permalink

Holy shit. That really reads like a cult member.

flappy bird, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:05 (three days ago) Permalink

I see these things and I never know whether to react "the Internet is a sucker for believing these posts, people aren't really like that" or "I'm a sucker who doesn't understand what people are really like"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 19 October 2018 18:15 (three days ago) Permalink

Poe's law in action.

pomenitul, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:23 (three days ago) Permalink

So you do think this is just somebody goofing?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 19 October 2018 18:28 (three days ago) Permalink

I really hope so

flappy bird, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:30 (three days ago) Permalink

seems fake to me, really laying it on thick in that last long paragraph with the crying and the "talking down" and the SWJ/Cultural Marxist shit, like he was trying to fill out a Jordan Peterson Talking Points bingo card.

evol j, Friday, 19 October 2018 18:35 (three days ago) Permalink

also it is his one and only post on all of reddit, let alone the lobsterman subreddit

My Gig: The Thin Beast (sic), Friday, 19 October 2018 19:24 (three days ago) Permalink

thank you, reassuring internet detectives

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 19 October 2018 19:25 (three days ago) Permalink

A real version, which definitely exists, is probably much more depressing.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 19 October 2018 19:29 (three days ago) Permalink


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