have at it, folx
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:42 (five months ago) Permalink
So are we looking forward to this? I'm liking the new-broom approach to the casting/costume, and much as I enjoyed the last series (a lot), the fact that it ended with two incarnations of the Master in a Cybermen origins story that culminated in a surprise appearance from the Hartnell Doctor indicates a freshen up might be in order.
But jesus, Chibnall's previous Doctor Who sits on a spectrum of bland to poor - some of the most unmemorable episodes in recent memory. Or am I being pessimistic?
(cheeky plug: we review Chibnall's Silurian two-parter on the most recent edition of my Doctor Who podcast - http://www.illexplainlater.com/post/166422653503/episode-27-land-of-make-believe - where we discussed some of this stuff...)
― bamboohouses, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:02 (five months ago) Permalink
v much looking forward to seeing how jodie whittaker plays it, v much apprehensive about everything else
― drinkmaster sealcup at yr service (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:04 (five months ago) Permalink
The whole show has been feeling very tired and in need of a new injection of ideas for quite some time now. On the other hand I've never seen Broadchurch and most of the episodes Chibnall had written have felt like mid-series filler so I dunno if he's the guy to provide them.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:10 (five months ago) Permalink
The incredibly shoddy photoshopped TARDIS behind Whitaker's Mork cosplay in the promo photo sets the tone for exactly the level of quality I expect from ol' Chinballs.
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:17 (five months ago) Permalink
Boring writer doesn't neccessariy mean boring showrunner, I'm hoping.
― chap, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:20 (five months ago) Permalink
I am excited the same way I am excited for any new actor who takes on the role of the Doctor. I'm also looking forward to the Doctor-companion interaction and which parts will change and which parts will stay the same. I also enjoyed most of Chibnall's Who stories and think his worst work appeared in the first season of Torchwood.
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:22 (five months ago) Permalink
I did read somewhere that he was planning to have more season-long storylines, which is the opposite direction things should be going in imo. A series of only very loosely connected, straighforward one and two parters each written by a different good writer would do the job fine.
― chap, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:26 (five months ago) Permalink
I get that on the one hand, but on the other hand the current Golden Age of Television is really strong on bingeable serialized stories that last the whole season, plus his biggest critical praise came from doing that with Broadchurch.
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:29 (five months ago) Permalink
I think the problem with recent Doctor Who arcs is that they're neither fish nor fowl - an awkward mix of 'arc episodes' and deliberately less important standalones that fails to really build to any sort of dramatic crescendo or are rushed at the final stages. I'd be fine with either 10 completely discrete episodes or a single 10-part story (an updated spin on The Daleks' Masterplan would suit me very nicely).
― bamboohouses, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:36 (five months ago) Permalink
I think RTD's first season was the only to really pull off its "arc" - unless you count the Riversong episodes as a single story (and why not - at least "Wedding..." finally gave it a satisfying ending).
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:49 (five months ago) Permalink
S1 barely had an arc, just some flash frames of graffiti shot later on and inserted into episodes months after they'd been writtenS5 had a fantastic, coherent, satisfyingly complicated plot arc (only undermined by Rory's prop badge), and the first two Capaldi years together pulled off successful parallel character arcs
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 9 November 2017 17:57 (five months ago) Permalink
TBH I'd be happy to settle for the show being fun again and it hasn't felt like that for ages.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 November 2017 18:01 (five months ago) Permalink
^ x1000000i may try again now
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:35 (five months ago) Permalink
Maybe I read too many Virgin/BBC novels but I can't point at a single season of the reboot that I would say is anti-fun, including Tennant's first season (which is the only one I haven't seen every episode of despite owning multiple copies of it)
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 9 November 2017 19:38 (five months ago) Permalink
lost me with matt smith, tried again with capaldi and still found it a slog
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:01 (five months ago) Permalink
Can we count the 2008-2010 specials?
xp ulysses you crazy, Matt Smith's first season was the best yet.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:05 (five months ago) Permalink
i agree, first matt smith season is one of the most classic
I demand much less from Who then all of you. I'm happy if it's marginally entertaining which it consistently is. I don't care for her suspenders, but I like her coat, and I think she'll be an interesting doctor. I'm more concerned with three full time companions; that pushes this too far into an ensemble which makes me wonder if they will let her carry the show or not.
― akm, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:09 (five months ago) Permalink
the ONE thing I did grow tired of under Moffatt was the manic pace of every episode though. LIke, 1000 things would happen in some of those smith episodes and they just got impossible to follow. Broadchurch, like it or hate it, has a much more staid pace that I hope he brings to the show.
― akm, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:24 (five months ago) Permalink
I look at it as back to basics with the caveat that the show has often struggled to juggle story arcs for the Doctor and three full-time companions (the most notorious example I can remember being "Kinda", where Nyssa spends the entire story napping in the TARDIS and pops up at the end asking "hey, did I miss anything?")
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:27 (five months ago) Permalink
If they do it with Bradley Walsh every week I'm all in.
― nashwan, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:45 (five months ago) Permalink
Hot take: Bradley Walsh will be good in this.
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:57 (five months ago) Permalink
Whooch.
― Entree 3000 (Leee), Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:05 (five months ago) Permalink
I 100% know Bradley from The Chase (not the Doctor Who story) - what is he like when not being really annoyingly anti-intellectual all the time?
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:17 (five months ago) Permalink
in cases like this (like with james corden, when he appeared on Who) I'm glad I'm not english and don't have the full context of how annoying this person is supposed to be (I liked corden's turn on who a lot. now that he's inflicted on the US with his own show, I see why people are tired of him though)
― akm, Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:19 (five months ago) Permalink
CHURCHWOOD
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:24 (five months ago) Permalink
"an updated spin on The Daleks' Masterplan"
The Master's Dalek Plan
― Chunky Backgammon (onimo), Friday, 10 November 2017 00:19 (five months ago) Permalink
^irl giggle
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Friday, 10 November 2017 08:31 (five months ago) Permalink
it was early in the day and i have... no idea what i meant by this
re chibnall: i'm excited that it's essentially a minor ~reboot~ (god knows this show needs it) but chibnall's writing has never done anything for me. cyberwoman was one of the worst things that has ever happened, although to be fair it was a really long time ago.
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 10 November 2017 08:58 (five months ago) Permalink
Bradley Walsh is a decent actor. He'll be fine.
― ailsa, Friday, 10 November 2017 10:41 (five months ago) Permalink
I worry that being Bradley Walsh gameshow host who's never off the telly might overshadow his acting ability.
― Chunky Backgammon (onimo), Friday, 10 November 2017 14:01 (five months ago) Permalink
"Cyberwoman" was terrible but "Exit Wounds", "Countrycide" and, to a lesser degree, "Fragments" were great. I also think his weakest Who story is "Dinosaurs on a Spaceship" which I still enjoyed a lot because of how silly it was.
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 10 November 2017 16:28 (five months ago) Permalink
He was chirpy never-off-the-telly gameshow host while he was doing Law & Order UK and it didn't seem to have much of an impact on him then.
xpost
― ailsa, Friday, 10 November 2017 17:55 (five months ago) Permalink
dan otm, chibnall's writing didn't stay at "cyberwoman" level thank god. also yeah, it feels wrong bagging "dinosaurs" because it was only ever meant to be the thing that it was. moffat/the bbc clearly wanted silly escapist quasi-blockbusters and that's what the writers delivered.
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 10 November 2017 20:32 (five months ago) Permalink
How much Gatiss are we expecting this time round?
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Friday, 10 November 2017 23:14 (five months ago) Permalink
i have seen a lot of lols about the new Doctor’s outfit on FB & elsewhere & it is making me annoyedher look is on point & awesome the short trousers with tall boots is such a great look esp with her height & propotions etc, and stripes are great & suspenders are cool wtf is wrong with ppl arg
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 November 2017 00:47 (five months ago) Permalink
don’t you get it veg she’s feeeeeeemale
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 11 November 2017 01:17 (five months ago) Permalink
grrr
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:30 (five months ago) Permalink
suspenders are a 'little' costumey and it felt a bit like we were past costumey with capaldi, but I like her coat alot and I'm not sure what people have against culottes, I think they are cute on women.
― akm, Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:41 (five months ago) Permalink
suspenders are great on those who are shaped to accomodate them and horrific for everyone else, any suspender backlash is just indicative of the 90% of the population who can't wear them or who tried and failedif you can pull them off (and Jodi Whittaker definitely can) I say put the pedal to the metal and go for it
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 November 2017 04:47 (five months ago) Permalink
otfm
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 11 November 2017 05:16 (five months ago) Permalink
(to whittaker pulling off the look)
Otfm
― Entree 3000 (Leee), Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:39 (five months ago) Permalink
(to me wearing suspenders)
― Entree 3000 (Leee), Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:40 (five months ago) Permalink
The coast is very Took Baker but with some Davison styling, especially around the lapels. The striped shirt also goes with the retro give.
― Entree 3000 (Leee), Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:41 (five months ago) Permalink
*coat
― Entree 3000 (Leee), Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:42 (five months ago) Permalink
*Tom Baker
*retro vibe
― Entree 3000 (Leee), Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:43 (five months ago) Permalink
lol
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 11 November 2017 07:45 (five months ago) Permalink
“Took Baker Coast”, the new contribution from Mark Gatiss
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 11 November 2017 08:08 (five months ago) Permalink
Also a cape is in fairness a costume.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 11 November 2017 08:42 (five months ago) Permalink
zero
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:22 (five months ago) Permalink
suspenders??
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:49 (five months ago) Permalink
lol yeah was going to say, made me double take, but i think that US use is fairly interchangeable with braces these days.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 11 November 2017 09:59 (five months ago) Permalink
'these days' jesus.
― Fizzles, Saturday, 11 November 2017 10:00 (five months ago) Permalink
Lol @ hypothetical british person when the first they read about female doctor who's outfit is a 'Murican saying she's in suspenders
O tempora, o mores
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Saturday, 11 November 2017 11:17 (five months ago) Permalink
"The striped shirt also goes with the retro vibe" the colors are from Baker's scarf
"suspenders??" = braces
― akm, Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:11 (five months ago) Permalink
My reservations about the new iteration of Who are pretty much all due to Broadchurch, which I did not like. I don't know how you create a show starring Olivia Colman and David Tennant that I do not enjoy watching, but bravo, Chibnall.
― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:18 (five months ago) Permalink
Braces are a bit Matt Smith era but w/e. Her outfit should evolve or switch a few times as it did with all recent Docs. I guess shades are out for a while but I am hoping for more hats.
― nashwan, Saturday, 11 November 2017 16:59 (five months ago) Permalink
BTW I would be pleased as punch to have a season full of "Dinosaurs in Space."
― Entree 3000 (Leee), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 18:50 (five months ago) Permalink
Are they also planning to switch up the score a bit? the sound design has been stale for years imo
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:31 (five months ago) Permalink
would love to hear the Ólafur Arnalds take on the theme & etc.
oh that would be super
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 19:35 (five months ago) Permalink
i thought I saw that Murray Gold was leaving but dunno
― akm, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:02 (five months ago) Permalink
― akm,
Great new if true. I'd love the score to be fully performed on vintage synths but what are the chances.
― chap, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:24 (five months ago) Permalink
The new score will be the soundtrack to Final Fantasy VII
― the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 20:24 (five months ago) Permalink
Gold leaving been a very strong rumour for 6 months now. I think he might announce after Christmas he won't be back, although you probably won't be able to hear his announcement over the background music.
― Thomas Gabriel Fischer does not endorse (aldo), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:04 (five months ago) Permalink
if Gold leaves it's seven years too late
if only I4n L3vine wanted to bother commissioning Paul Hartnoll to rescore the entire Moffatt era
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Wednesday, 15 November 2017 21:15 (five months ago) Permalink
Pix from location shooting are in the wild. Considered spoilers in this thread? Erring caution-side
― Brakhage, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 21:43 (two months ago) Permalink