US Politics November 2017

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I think Democrats would vote for it (probably most of them!) but the bigger issue is whether McConnell will bring it to the floor at all, over the objections of his caucus

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

like if all the Dems support it, and one third of the GOP - is that enough for Blobfish? Or would his caucus turn on him for betraying them?

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

bear in mind that Trump has specifically batted down the Alexander-Murray compromise as acceptable

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

UNacceptable

I meant

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:03 (six years ago) link

could be wishful thinking but: feel like murkowski (like manchin's "gosh, could the president have been lying" stance) is fundamentally a "no," but via a form of rhetoric that leads the more conservative voters in her state down that path over days or weeks. like sort of play naive at the start, as if the rest of the republicans actually want to make a good tax bill... then sigh sadly at the end, when after a lot of serious thoughtful work they just couldn't get it past that finish line with something that's really Good For Working People In Maine. darn, we'll try again next time! when obviously, from the get-go, the bill is actively hostile to working people in maine. but for some reason you can't just say that - need to seem like a hard-working legislator trying to work together with other people who are committed in good faith to making a serious bill. yadda yadda. so similarly "i can vote for this, once we get the protections in place that will make it work" is basically "i won't vote for this because that will never happen" but maybe it helps make it digestible if you're a voter who really thinks repealing the individual mandate is super important.

collins's rhetoric also seems open to this kind of move but maybe less so.

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Friday, 17 November 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

probably thinking too hard about it

global tetrahedron, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

no I think Dr. C's accurate, they are setting themselves up to take a lot of shit for torpedoing the GOP agenda, so they need to make it look like it was a lot of hard work and serious thinking to get them to that place

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link

I endorse this message

https://www.theawl.com/2017/11/dont-win-arguments-win-elections/

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

I don't but then again, I wouldn't.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

ohio man fucks

.@BillForOhio, a sitting Ohio Supreme Court justice and Democratic gubernatorial candidate, apparently posted on Facebook about his sexual escapades.

"In the last fifty years I was sexually intimate with approximately 50 very attractive females." pic.twitter.com/TUNT2IVbTt

— Eric Heisig (@eheisig) November 17, 2017

mookieproof, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link

Everyone from the gorgeous personal secretary to Senator Bob Taft (senior). That's quite a range indeed!

Evan, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link

xpost What the fuck? Bob Taft Senior is a woman?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

Or man? I'm confused?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_28/2068271/170711-rob-goldstone-2009-njs-1042a_f12b30a6a7be922f4b87bb5fdf82198b.nbcnews-ux-600-480.jpg

Gotta say, any guy that looks like this who is living in Bangkok is clearly up to no good.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

I hear he made it with a redhead girl in a Chevrolet as well.

loretta swit happens (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link

she was a black-haired beauty with big dark eyes

mookieproof, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

they lapped and tied in a true lover's knot, the red rose and the briar

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

In a sworn statement, he averred that he could see paradise by the dashboard light

loretta swit happens (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

ICYMI, big Clinton flack very upset at Gillibrand's 'Clinton should've resigned' take

@PhilippeReines

Ken Starr spent $70 million on a consensual blowjob. Senate voted to keep POTUS WJC. But not enough for you @SenGillibrand? Over 20 yrs you took the Clintons’ endorsements, money, and seat. Hypocrite.

Interesting strategy for 2020 primaries. Best of luck.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:32 (six years ago) link

"consensual"

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

jfc

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

I think that BillForOhio guy is saying he slept with Flo from Progressive

.oO (silby), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

can’t stop lolling at billforohio’s brave admission of a tender love affair with senator bob taft (senior)

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

that...is an extremely bad statement, Bill

omar little, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:47 (six years ago) link

BRAGGIN 2018 for Governor

President Keyes, Friday, 17 November 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

Dare I say this? Flo _is_ mega hawt, tho

loretta swit happens (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:27 (six years ago) link

Much less ambiguity about the polling trend in Alabama now. Things have gotten worse for Moore since the allegations first came out. pic.twitter.com/1cPt1jzvos

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 17, 2017

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2017 19:54 (six years ago) link

such a POS

A tearful Menendez thanked God, his family and the jurors outside the courthouse in Newark, New Jersey, as well as two senators who testified on his behalf as character witnesses, Democrat Cory Booker and Republican Lindsey Graham.

“The way this case started was wrong,” said Menendez, flanked by his grown children. “The way it was investigated was wrong. The way it was prosecuted was wrong. The way it was tried was wrong as well.”

The senator also added a warning to political rivals. “To those who were digging my political grave so they could jump into my seat: I know who you are, and I won’t forget you,” he said.

https://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2017/11/16/menendez-settles-score-before-reelection-campiagn-116825

Thank you, confused jurors.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:05 (six years ago) link

rule of law in the country has really taken a hit.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link

nice to see Booker so astutely perceiving that his party's recent momentum is totally in the direction of vouching for guys accused of being massively corrupt.

evol j, Friday, 17 November 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link

that's why we elected the law and order president! he's on it don't worry xp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:46 (six years ago) link

now wanna start a poll on which law and order character would make the best president

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

(the answer is lennie briscoe obv)

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 20:51 (six years ago) link

the mayor of Jersey City said he'd endorse Menendez for another term, bcz LOL Jersey City.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link

I just assume everybody in Jersey is handed a bribe at birth

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link

and a copy of born to run

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:21 (six years ago) link

for office

Evan, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

lulz

loretta swit happens (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

I know that Cory Booker is made up entirely of either kumbayah or the distilled essence of treachery depending on who you talk to but this move makes no sense from either angle.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

What's up with this new Sam Clovis Russia stuff?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:53 (six years ago) link

How a conservative group dealt with a fondling charge against a rising GOP star

people, including tony perkins, knew about the ohio state senator for two years

mookieproof, Friday, 17 November 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

Sarah Huckster today: “Senator Franken has admitted wrongdoing and the president hasn’t. I think that’s a very clear distinction.”

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 November 2017 21:59 (six years ago) link

snrk

.oO (silby), Friday, 17 November 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

AHAHAHA

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

too true!

lol

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 22:00 (six years ago) link

sounds like a december thread title

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 17 November 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

doesn't beat previous contender "nobody knows it but everybody's saying it"

Οὖτις, Friday, 17 November 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

MURKOWSKI: Alexander-Murray *NOT* a precondition for her vote; she remains undecided on the tax bill https://t.co/Zvl5rCVUV0

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) November 17, 2017

🤔

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 17 November 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link


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