FP: Should 31 be the new 51 y/n

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Having seen numerous calls for bans the last year (u know whot 'n who I mean) and quite a lot of ilxors backing it, but seemingly not enough to materialize because 'lol demise of ilx' in the numbers, should the FP threshold be lowered from 51 to, say, 31? Would it solve anything in the first place, or is it good as it is? Does our FP-law rid the ILX eco-system of toxic unwanted drivel, or is it falling short because the user numbers are (seemingly) falling behind? Or, third option (not in the poll, but do elaborate), all is fair game and maybe we don't need FP anymore in the first place?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
No 31
Yes 27


Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:27 (seven months ago) Permalink

display the number of FPs next to the posts that draw them imo

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:29 (seven months ago) Permalink

^^this system works on the football forum i post to. also offers a chance for lolz

imago, Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:31 (seven months ago) Permalink

hey, i'm only thinking of the lolz

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

colour coding of display names for every 10 FPs, goes to flashing red and black when you reach 50

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

also anybody who reaches 31 has to go to an "Are You Sure You Want To Post This?" confirmation page before every subsequent post is accepted.

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:40 (seven months ago) Permalink

^this page is adorned with floating gifs of previous much-flagged posts

imago, Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

ban no longer lasts for 30 days but is over as soon as the culprit handwrites 51 letters of apology to the relevant ilxors

Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

how do you know who is relevant?

sarahell, Sunday, 29 October 2017 22:32 (seven months ago) Permalink

What is FP?

calstars, Sunday, 29 October 2017 22:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

flag post. i've only ever done it for one person & one post

flappy bird, Sunday, 29 October 2017 22:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

ban no longer lasts for 30 days but is over as soon as the culprit handwrites 51 letters of apology to the relevant ilxors

― Pope Urban the Legend (Noodle Vague), Sunday, October 29, 2017 9:45 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is an idea I can embrace

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 29 October 2017 22:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

I don't want any email from gabbneb or larry appleton, thanks

El Tomboto, Sunday, 29 October 2017 22:39 (seven months ago) Permalink

abolish the cowardly system altogether plz

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 October 2017 22:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

another important question would be how many times a poster has FP'd

flappy bird, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:00 (seven months ago) Permalink

Fuck me, Twitter and FB are click for like type meritocracies, and look at the fucking state of them for goodness sake. And 99% of football forum "content" is enough to drive you to ending it for good. I'd say do not change anything ILX.

calzino, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:04 (seven months ago) Permalink

Yeah I'm not into public display of which posts have been FP'd and how many times, way too much like FB

flappy bird, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:06 (seven months ago) Permalink

has the board really had an issue with abusive or seriously disruptive posters recently?

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:15 (seven months ago) Permalink

remarkable how prevalent the cop mindset is tbh

k3vin k., Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:15 (seven months ago) Permalink

we're all cops

ogmor, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:16 (seven months ago) Permalink

I think it's just one example that caused this post

and that individual has now been banned, for hitting 51

El Tomboto, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

Good Gulags are needed in these difficult times, the type that Solzhenitsyn + Shalamov would approve of imo.

calzino, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

write 51 times i will not be a bad poster

assawoman bay (harbl), Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

i like the new party atmosphere on the Admin Log

Karl Malone, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:30 (seven months ago) Permalink

Fuck me, Twitter and FB are click for like type meritocracies, and look at the fucking state of them for goodness sake. And 99% of football forum "content" is enough to drive you to ending it for good. I'd say do not change anything ILX.

― calzino, Sunday, October 29, 2017 7:04 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wisdom

Treeship, Sunday, 29 October 2017 23:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

Aw whaddi miss whaddi miss

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2017 00:11 (seven months ago) Permalink

we're all cops

― ogmor, Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:16 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes.

I think it's just one example that caused this post

― El Tomboto, Sunday, October 29, 2017 11:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really. A bit though yeah, def.

Lots of people otm here, some a bit too eager even to my own liking but that comes with the territory.

Feels like the ilx massive wants to exclude a person or two for quite some time. And it's not happening. Fine by me, but the system seems flawed for 2017 realness. Which is why I asked 31 for 51.

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:13 (seven months ago) Permalink

Shoulder to the wheel etc

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:14 (seven months ago) Permalink

i think we need more posters

Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:18 (seven months ago) Permalink

is advertising in the budget?

Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

21 imo

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2017 00:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

1

Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

11

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUFSB2plwzM

Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

Don't Cry vs November Rain has new answers

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:34 (seven months ago) Permalink

so that was not a useful lead for finding out who you want iced

Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:38 (seven months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3DllvVSsLc

how's life, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:47 (seven months ago) Permalink

Guys. I was going to wait but

I found the perfect venue for this year's ILX reunion

http://www.311cruise.com/

Treeship, Monday, 30 October 2017 00:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

So wait... we're complaining because there are less dickheads needing/getting flagged/banhammered because theres less of us now, and this is a problem why exactly?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 30 October 2017 02:09 (seven months ago) Permalink

I think that brings up a good point - we might dislike certain posters more than we ever would have in, say, peak noize dude era, because there are less of us, and so the, uh, noize floor is more noticeable

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 October 2017 02:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

39, because I just rewatched the 39 Steps

bernard snowy, Monday, 30 October 2017 02:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

i support bernard snowy's proposal, seems sound.

if it's true that there are fewer of us, that makes us more vulnerable to assholes hanging around forever, never to reach 51 but able to really derail every thread at their whim. i always thought 51 was kind of shockingly high but i guess people used to do a lot more lol-SBing and you had to compensate for that.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 30 October 2017 02:55 (seven months ago) Permalink

btw at first glance I assumed this was a thread about flagging anyone who posted some lifestyle article about how age 31 is "the new 51"

Doctor Casino, Monday, 30 October 2017 02:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

would support that flag policy btw

Doctor Casino, Monday, 30 October 2017 02:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

why are we proposing a solution to a problem we do not have, is the question

k3vin k., Monday, 30 October 2017 02:57 (seven months ago) Permalink

^^^^^

brimstead, Monday, 30 October 2017 03:05 (seven months ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6U-TGahwvs

brimstead, Monday, 30 October 2017 03:05 (seven months ago) Permalink

why are we proposing a solution to a problem we do not have, is the question

― k3vin k., Monday, 30 October 2017 02:57 (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There aren't any fp's. Try to keep up.

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Monday, 30 October 2017 03:42 (seven months ago) Permalink

I just flag the really bad posts with each of my 27 sock accounts

mh, Monday, 30 October 2017 04:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

I suspect this poll was prompted by a particular poster who may have been 51'ed under a different username, but came back and is still a frequent irritant. My sense is that if any poster rises to the level of unacceptability requiring ejection, ILX will muster the necessary 51 FPs.

I personally doubt that there have been many posters who accumulated more than 31 active FPs who did not also pass the 51 threshold soon afterwards, but that is merely a guess on my part. Picking the 'right' number is not a science, but a fairly inexact heuristic. I'm fine with any number, as long as it is high enough that it cannot be driven by relatively small cabal. 51 has been adequately functional so far, imo.

I also note that 51 has deeply entered ILX lore. Changing it would render that lore illegible.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 30 October 2017 05:19 (seven months ago) Permalink

No, I was using it to describe content and posting styles that resemble behavior of someone on the Autism Spectrum. No like/dislike involved. Just descriptive.

the spectrum is broad (that's why the term "spectrum" was brought into use) & calling things "autistic" is reductive, dismissive, and offensive, and I hope you'll reconsider your position on using it in this way.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

it's like walking up to a buffet table and saying "this looks like some food for diabetics!"

― mh, Thursday, 2 November 2017 19:20 (three hours ago) Permalink

is it bad that this makes me lol

flopson, Thursday, 2 November 2017 22:56 (seven months ago) Permalink

I read a couple of other sites where people have weighed in revealing some of our ‘funny’ ex-members as real-life abusers

Is this just going to pass by uncommented on, then?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:10 (seven months ago) Permalink

^^^^^ otm

sarahell, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

one of them has been brought up here in the past, not much point in relitigating

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

they're permabanned, and the accusation was exactly zero surprise

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:22 (seven months ago) Permalink

relevant search terms?

sarahell, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:23 (seven months ago) Permalink

What kind of abuse are we talkin about here

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:26 (seven months ago) Permalink

I'd like to know that. Stop the shady stuff.

Also we can give Sarahell a break now; she apologized and explained, that's that imho.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 2 November 2017 23:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

I looked for the link again recently but couldn’t find it, basically someone on m3tafilter mentioned in reference to DP that she dated him and he was an abusive pos

mh, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:17 (seven months ago) Permalink

Rhymes with Pom Dassatino?

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:20 (seven months ago) Permalink

IchLugeMullets

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:21 (seven months ago) Permalink

yes, in case it wasn’t obvious

mh, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:25 (seven months ago) Permalink

Well theres another D(J)P around here, didnt want him inadvertently sullied

Οὖτις, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

DJP is most certainly not an ex-poster

mh, Friday, 3 November 2017 00:53 (seven months ago) Permalink

This is fine

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Friday, 3 November 2017 00:58 (seven months ago) Permalink

I sometimes get my flappy birds, flopsons and frogbs confused, one of them is a YMO stan.

present

frogbs, Friday, 3 November 2017 15:44 (seven months ago) Permalink

I am not gonna lie, the first thought that crossed my mind when I read mh's post was "shit, if I ever leave then Domcrimes are gonna follow me around like an albatross"

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 3 November 2017 15:50 (seven months ago) Permalink

your crimes are fun and music/liquor/pun related, completely different ballgame

mh, Friday, 3 November 2017 15:52 (seven months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 4 November 2017 00:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

that's the joke

you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 4 November 2017 01:40 (seven months ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 5 November 2017 00:01 (seven months ago) Permalink

that's kismet, or something

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 November 2017 00:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

31 got 31'd

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 November 2017 00:02 (seven months ago) Permalink

Righteous

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 November 2017 00:48 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

seriously 51 is not working

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:24 (seven months ago) Permalink

it’s working fine. start a “ban poster” thread if you need to

El Tomboto, Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:35 (seven months ago) Permalink

can't - writer's block :(

gimme the beet poison, free my soul (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

Who is DC trying to ban?

calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:36 (seven months ago) Permalink

prob JB

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

Not trying for a ban so much as praying for one.

The buttermilk of Beelzebub (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

don’t have to write, just copy/paste a list of links to really shit posts and put them in an admin request thread

don’t have to write an essay of justification

mh, Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:41 (seven months ago) Permalink

Who’s JB?

calstars, Saturday, 25 November 2017 20:46 (seven months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

??

k3vin k., Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:35 (six months ago) Permalink

Maybe ILM is exploding again. The rest of ILX seems to be pretty tolerable atm. Surely one could cavil at a few posts, but no conflagrations in sight.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:50 (six months ago) Permalink

Think it's because Ronan criticised cat ppl then overtalked the thread where are the mods ffs

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:52 (six months ago) Permalink

cat people ain't got no reason to live

randy newman has much to answer for

mh, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:57 (six months ago) Permalink

oh. I've been trying to stay away from the sexual politics threads lately, both for my own sanity and for the greater comfort of the participants.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:58 (six months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

As I was saying...

Google Atheist (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 1 March 2018 23:34 (three months ago) Permalink

If ILX has become an intolerable hellhole recently due to insufficient banning, it has escaped my notice.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 2 March 2018 00:08 (three months ago) Permalink

Well a poster corrected someone’s spelling in a thread about a personal tragedy that befell them so

treeship 2, Friday, 2 March 2018 00:10 (three months ago) Permalink

Not more hellholish than it used to be/ The numbers have changed tho.

Google Atheist (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 2 March 2018 00:14 (three months ago) Permalink

wtf xp

omar little, Friday, 2 March 2018 00:15 (three months ago) Permalink

not really sure where else to post this without feeling awkward, but: our house on lawton street caught fire last week. my roommate's room, our kitchen and living room were totally wiped out, ditto the upstairs kitchen and living room, and every bedroom in the house got at least some measure of smoke and water damage. everybody has had to move out and is in the process of extracting and trying to clean/save anything not blatantly soaked and sooted to the bone. this has not really been very fun in a lightless house with face masks and headlamps. the worst thing of all is that our cat passed away of smoke inhalation, which i really don't even want to talk about. we're hoping it was quick and relatively painless.

i say all this as a preamble to, there is a gofundme for all us housemates (save Shuj4 H41d3r who lived downstairs of me - if you follow him on twitter you know he got his act together sooner to set up a fundraiser [plus had separate additional expenses to deal with] and has also shared this one). i hardly would ask any of y'all internet cats here to donate but please consider sharing, and more in the spirit of ILX, coming out to the bar-room fundraisers this friday! happy hour at marcos (broadway & malcolm x) from 2 to 8 followed by band showcase at The Gateway from 8:00 on. come have a drink, bring your friends, spread the word! i will be the frequently unshaven man wearing stupid hipster aviator glasses.

― Doctor Casino, Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:46 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jeezus Doc, what a bummer. hope things go well, fast!

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:50 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sorry about your losses. Someone on your page should probably spell Rafael Espinal's name correctly.

― Moo Vaughn, Thursday, March 1, 2018 11:51 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 March 2018 00:26 (three months ago) Permalink

^^ gets it

Google Atheist (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 2 March 2018 00:42 (three months ago) Permalink

that's a heartbreaking story. stay strong Dr. C!

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 2 March 2018 00:44 (three months ago) Permalink

best wishes to you Dr Casino!

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Friday, 2 March 2018 00:45 (three months ago) Permalink

Thoughts Dr c

If, which is I think unlikely, you're casually checking out fp threads

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Friday, 2 March 2018 00:46 (three months ago) Permalink


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