Police Line Do (Not) Cross: True Crime TV & Podcasts

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Instead of clogging up the book thread with my nonsense i thought i’d start a separate thread

A few to start

Manhunt: Unabomber - Discovery ID’s “event” series. Kinda mindhunter lite - nostalgic setting with big glasses, cornball dialogue & situations but the process aspect is done pretty well & i dont hate it?
Still feel very ambivalent/conflicted that the show hinges on his “genius” & “troubled background” and hits it SO hard when so little of the show is about the victims... who make up, what, 20 years of the story before the true hunt for irl Ted even began? I know you cant do both but god when can these families ever stop hearing about fuckface Ted’s brilliant mind

Heaven’s Gate podcast: Glynn Wallace’s new series about the Heaven’s Gate cult, from his unique perspective as a former cult member himself
Enjoying this for the understanding he brings, highly recommend

Dirty John - 6 episodes & done, crazy con man story & for a nice change ***told professionally***

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 October 2017 05:46 (two years ago) link

Accused podcast has a new season - a few eps in & it’s pretty interesting. I really enjoy their reporting, I hope this series runs for a long time, they do a+ work

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 October 2017 05:48 (two years ago) link

I’d really like the woman who reported on In The Dark to do another series

Have you listened to Trace? I really want to hear updates on the new evidence

I’m still listening to Hollywood and Crime - I wonder if they’ll address the new book that claims Leslie Dillon was the Black Dahlia Killer (I just listened to the Dillion ep a couple days ago)

Black Hands, the NZ podcast about the Bain Family Murders was pretty interesting - I didn’t have a real opinion on his guilt beforehand but now I do

just1n3, Thursday, 26 October 2017 06:28 (two years ago) link

theres a show on Maura murray's disappearance in new Hampshire on some tv channel rn that im watching, its ok

johnny crunch, Thursday, 26 October 2017 11:56 (two years ago) link

ooh i hadnt heard about that Black Hands/Bain Family Podcast ... gonna check that out

i havent heard Trace -is it good?

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 October 2017 15:45 (two years ago) link

Trace is good - but it’s very short and unresolved. It seems like they’ll come back with more eps when there’s new updates.

just1n3, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:00 (two years ago) link

I have circled back to Last Podhouse on the Left again - i didnt like it the first time but it’s ok this tome around. The comedy/tone is still very reddity but they do pretty decent research ... also they have a new 4-parter abt Robert Pickton & my curiosity got the better of me

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 October 2017 03:22 (two years ago) link

Bloody Murder. I know I've spammed it a bit, but it really is good! True crime with a comedy bent and lots of swearing and australianness.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 27 October 2017 03:26 (two years ago) link

They did Roger Rogerson a few weeks back, which was a popular one.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 27 October 2017 03:26 (two years ago) link

That was a good episode! Good fun aussies

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 October 2017 03:35 (two years ago) link

Theyre doing a Chopper special this week.... prob recording it as I type actually.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 27 October 2017 03:37 (two years ago) link

Uncle Chop Chop! good value

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 October 2017 03:50 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Really liking Cults so far - https://www.parcast.com/cults/

Never heard of the Ant Hills Kids and the crazy story about the Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God in Uganda

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 20 January 2018 04:03 (one year ago) link

ooh i have a few podcast recs

Atlanta Monster - almost like an oral history of the Atlanta Child Murders. so good. focuses a lot on the racial aspect of the case from people who grew up in Atlanta at the time, victims families, etc (race is, if anyone’s familar, a huge part, if not the whole part, of it)

Cold Case Files: pretty much the podcast of the show. All the classics from every episode.

Real Crime Profile - a former FBI profiler & a former Scotand Yard behavioural analyst talk about tv shows & current cases. they are right now doing a multi-episode deepdive into the Mindhunter netflix show - highly recommend if you were into Mindhunter. lots of great insights into real life profiling

and i just started bingeing the crap out of Hollywood & Crime (recommended upthread). Soooooo good.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 04:25 (one year ago) link

gonna subscribe to Cults - that sounds like my ACTUAL entire wheelhouse

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 04:26 (one year ago) link

One more that I think I mentioned on the other thread... FBI Retired Case File Review - http://jerriwilliams.com/hello/podcast-2/
Retired FBI special agent (turned crime fiction author) interviews other retired FBI agents about their biggest cases.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:12 (one year ago) link

(subscribed fo Cold Case Files and Real Crime Profile immediately)

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:18 (one year ago) link

Real Crime is good...Jim can be a bit overbearing at times but Laura balances him out

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 January 2018 23:54 (one year ago) link

not to harp on but Hollywood & Crime is so well put-together, i’m really loving it

the amount of work they have put in on the Black Dahlia season alone, to bring in the related cases & reconcile all the different theories, my hat is well and truly off.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 January 2018 06:07 (one year ago) link

on the tv front-

i missed the first ep of the new Gianni Versace series, have it dvr’d. dont have high hopes but the OJ series was so much better than i expected so maybe it’ll surprise me

Jodi Arrias three-parter on Discovery ID- watched first ep & as always i fkng hate the production. ominous narration, corny reenactment & talking heads that say shit like SHE WAS A BLONDE BOMBSHELL. u_u

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 21 January 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

Another take on the In Cold Blood story.


nickn, Monday, 22 January 2018 19:52 (one year ago) link

Jeez,I never heard of this one before:
UPDATE Jan. 21 2018, 12:10 p.m. PT: Sources familiar with the investigation tell Crime Watch Daily with Chris Hansen cadaver dogs may be used at every known residence of the Turpin family.

Sheriff’s Department Also in Discussions to DNA Test All 13 Children to Determine Relation

dow, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:39 (one year ago) link

yeah it’s awful. i think it could take a while before we know anything like the full story, but the fragments that are known are horrifying. i saw some other stories that suggest things were more “normal” 6 years ago, and that something may have triggered the current conditions. whatever the case, those poor fkn kids.

anyhoo not quite the thread for it? idk if there’s a general “terrible news stories” thread

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 03:02 (one year ago) link

Sorry, I meant I'd never heard of Crime Watch Daily with Chris Hanson, which I thought might fit this thread.

dow, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 03:27 (one year ago) link

oh! i missed that. yeah i didn’t know he had another show!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 03:33 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Curtis Flowers has been tried six times for the same crime. For 21 years, Flowers has maintained his innocence. He's won appeal after appeal, but every time, the prosecutor just tries the case again. What does the evidence reveal? And how can the justice system ignore the prosecutor's record and keep Flowers on death row?

New season of In the Dark officially announced

just1n3, Thursday, 26 April 2018 07:30 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Folks, when you have finished whatever it is you're watching/listening to now, go directly to Evil Genius on Netflix. It's a four-parter on the Erie, PA bank robbery by the guy with the neck bomb that went off. You know the story. I didn't know the back story and HFS the real world is far more messed up than you think.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 May 2018 21:52 (one year ago) link

perfect timing Elvis!

starting this now. I know a little of it from The Dollop episode, that’s the first I ever heard about it, but I’m interested to learn more.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 May 2018 22:37 (one year ago) link

There was a Wired story from 2010 that I vaguely remembered reading back then, but I'd just go direct to the series.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 May 2018 23:15 (one year ago) link

ok i’m done


Marjorie is a PIECE of fucking WORK, my god. What a hideous woman.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 03:08 (one year ago) link

We just watched this last week. I'd never heard of it before! And yeah that woman is genuinely disturbed. Mind you by the end I felt like dungarees guy was just as complicit... but we'll never really know.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 09:09 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah Rothstein def seemed like he was just as awful.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:16 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Anyone have any thoughts about the push for an appeal for Scott Peterson? I don't know if this is the right thread for it. Some true crime fans I know are convinced he's innocent, for some reason.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 23:01 (one year ago) link

fucked if I know why

i havent read anything in the affirmative so far that has convinced me it’s not him.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 August 2018 02:21 (one year ago) link

everyone is innocent iirc

President Keyes, Thursday, 9 August 2018 13:44 (one year ago) link

Not a podcast, but in the theme of this thread I have a personal interest in the Michael Gargiulo trial that may start in a few weeks, given that his first alleged victim was a high school classmate of mine. Her murder happened 25 years ago this month, in the summer after our class's graduation. She was supposed to attend the college I headed to as well.


This lady here has been covering it, and I appreciate that since otherwise I would have no idea what was going on or why it's been a decade since his arrest.

(As it happens, the case of my high school classmate won't appear in this trial, but still...)

fajita seas, Friday, 10 August 2018 01:00 (one year ago) link

highly recommend Teacher’s Pet podcast. Australian joint about a 30+ years old cold case of a missing woman presumed murdered by her ex Rugby player husband, a PE teacher who was boning the 16 year old student he also hired as a babysitter. 2 eps in and I am hooked

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 August 2018 05:06 (one year ago) link

Fucking hell

Teacher’s Pet got me hooked like nothing else.
I sat on my couch all day catching up on the series - never donw that before.
So many layers!! Highly recommend.

the endless recapping & dragging it out gets a bit exhausting but the investigative journalism is pretty good. lot less tailchasing than a lot of stories, but he has a lot of cooperation from a lot of different groups which def helps push the story along, and the publicity has been insane

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 August 2018 05:15 (one year ago) link

just started listening. holy shit.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 17 August 2018 23:03 (one year ago) link


i kinda want to listen to it again

have been talking with a friend back home aboutthe way friends & even the family remained so inanely *passive* after her disappearance, and how recognizably Australian that behavior is, and that it is actually much more passive-agressive than it seems on the surface of it.

the slang is glorious too - crime scene investigator says he was “spewin” about an outcome & i nearly died laughing

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 August 2018 00:12 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

In the end, I liked Teacher's Pet but the last few episodes dragged on quite a bit with repetition. I'm still trying to reconcile that I'm actually sharing the planet with some of these horrible people.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 September 2018 06:46 (one year ago) link

New fave: Forensic Transmissions. 911 calls, confessions to the police, interrogations, trials - all presented straight up without interruption.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 2 September 2018 06:53 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Binged Dr Death this week... holy crap, that was a ride and a half. Feels like an impostor story at first but it's WAY weirder.

I will say I'm not a huge fan of Wondery's tendency to overproduce their shows, with occasional dramatic re-enactments and such, it can veer into radio play territory which I don't always love.

But I can overlook it when the reporting and the story is that good. Warning, if you are grossed out by medical procedures this will give you the fuckin PHEAR jesus christ.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 November 2018 05:58 (eleven months ago) link

It deeply disturbed me! As if I don’t already completely mistrust the medical system in this country. Jesus.

I agree with you about the over production. Couldn’t get into the wonderland season or the Manson one at all.

just1n3, Sunday, 18 November 2018 06:08 (eleven months ago) link

The one thing that I loved about Dr Death was that the focus was this hideously grotesque awful doctor, but he was brought to justice by two AWESOME doctors who actually gave a shit. It was a great contrast.

But yeah, I've noped out of two Wondery shows within the first 5 minutes based on re-enactments alone.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 18 November 2018 06:24 (eleven months ago) link

i agree 100%. dr death is a great story but i'd like it better if it was not wondery. just listened to their aaron hernandez podcast, same.

forensic plumber (harbl), Sunday, 18 November 2018 21:35 (eleven months ago) link


Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 November 2018 00:25 (eleven months ago) link

Just started listening to the Bear Brook podcast by NHPR - bodies found in 2 barrels in a New Hampshire forest 15 years apart, all within 300 feet of each other. Really good, solid reporting & not too many gimmicks. I’m only 2 eps in & i’m hooked.

have also subscribed to 2 more that sounded interesting
-Death in Ice Valley by BBC World Service about a Norwegian coldcase
-Breakdown by the Atlanta Constitution Journal about the murder trial of an Atlanta businessman

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 06:04 (eleven months ago) link

Bear Brook is a remarkable story.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 06:10 (eleven months ago) link

Isn’t it just!? The way it intersects so many people’s lives, and time periods.

It makes me so sad that the orginal bodies haven’t been identified - that memorial service really got to me.

Also, of all the things, one I can’t stop thinking about is the whole idea of him killing one tiny daughter & keeping another alive. Like, he’s already clearly a fkn monster obv but that detail just fucks me up.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 06:52 (eleven months ago) link

Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet or if it’s technically considered true crime, but I’ve been enjoying The Dream, about MLMs/pyramid schemes.

MrDasher, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:47 (eleven months ago) link

i have been meaning to check that out

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 17:14 (eleven months ago) link

Oooh we just started the dream last night - only got through one episode but I’m hooked already.

just1n3, Thursday, 6 December 2018 05:52 (eleven months ago) link

I'm liking The Dream a lot. Related: The Grift podcast http://thegriftpodcast.com

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 6 December 2018 06:40 (eleven months ago) link

i am in love with the dream, just my favorite kind of stories

forensic plumber (harbl), Saturday, 8 December 2018 01:06 (eleven months ago) link

i have subscribed so i can live the dream w all yall

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 December 2018 07:15 (eleven months ago) link

Loving the Dream so far. on ep 2 - man this whole town & her family sounds exactly like my hometown, every stay at home mum selling tupperware or throwing jewellery parties or cookware or clothing parties. my mum never did because she worked & thought it was “tacky”, but my sister quite a few girls i went to high school with were all up in that life.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 December 2018 02:39 (eleven months ago) link

When they were talking about the language used to convince ppl they can be sellers/recruiters too, it reminded of this Facebook msg I got back in 2015 from an old friend I hadn’t spoken with in years:

“Hi Jussie! How are you? You look like your enjoying life and your dog is just gorgeous!! I'm contacting you because I've recently started a new business which is pretty exciting. I thought of you because you're always so positive and motivated! It may or may not be for you personally but you may know others that are looking for a new opportunity or just want a bit of extra cash. If you would like to know more, let me know and I'll send you through a 6 minute video that explains a bit more about the business. IN the meantime, enjoy the warm weather - we're freezing our butts off here!!! Speak soon! Emily x“

Now, we used to waitress together for a couple of years and were quite close, so the idea that she would truly believe for even a minute that I’m “positive and motivated” (two adjectives I’ve never heard used to describe me) is hilarious but also ridiculous and immediately clued me in that this was an MLM (she was involved with that aloe product company).

just1n3, Sunday, 9 December 2018 22:49 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

Up and Vanished S2 is amazing

calumy (rip van wanko), Friday, 15 February 2019 15:59 (eight months ago) link

hippies are so awful it's like trying to solve a crime witnessed only by toddlers

calumy (rip van wanko), Friday, 15 February 2019 16:48 (eight months ago) link

Who the Hell is Hamish? podcast looks promising

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Friday, 15 February 2019 19:41 (eight months ago) link

New wondery podcast Over My Dead Body is pretty good.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 February 2019 20:14 (eight months ago) link

Obv this way more than true crime but Lorena docuseries in Amazon Prime is a must-watch.

and in case you are wondering yes ~he~ is still a walking piece of human garbage & he will make you want to throw your tv out the window

but Lorena herself is v inspiring

and I cried through the whole 3rd episode

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 17 February 2019 20:43 (eight months ago) link

I am addicted to Yeardley Smith’s “Small Town Dicks”.

Quite possibly my platonic ideal of a true crime show.
Most of the details are relayed by the IRL small-town law enforcement who worked the crime, perhaps one of the two detectives Dan & Dave or their colleagues, interspersed with querying or clarifying questions from Yeardley or Zibby.

At times, it’s fuuuuucking brutal; like if Forensic Files was a podcast. These guys will spare no detail, & lay it all out in that very matter of fact way.

One thing I love is they occasionally talk to other involved people, like a victim’s mother, or the dispatcher . It’s usually really good & adds a lot of context to a case.

I dunno if it’s for everyone: but it’s DEF for me.

It’s SO rare that hosts are willing to take a backseat & let the stories be told to them. It’s impressive.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 24 February 2019 23:38 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

I unsubscribed from Sword & Scale years ago - had no idea the host was such a horrible person but am not surprised.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 July 2019 21:37 (four months ago) link

yeah Sword & Scale turned me off years ago. Host is a grade-A douchebag.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 12 July 2019 04:35 (four months ago) link

Oh my bf has said a loootttt about Boudet, he is Not a Popular Man among the indie TC pod community.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 12 July 2019 04:52 (four months ago) link

"I Love You, Now Die" is extremely compelling

Number None, Friday, 12 July 2019 06:30 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Darknet Diaries has hit a streak of terrific episodes this year, but this one on the financial trader who dug the bunkers underneath his house in Bethesda is outstanding. I had no idea this was the same guy who set fire to hard drives at hacker cons.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 3 August 2019 20:53 (three months ago) link

Crimetown season two is outstanding

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 5 August 2019 01:35 (three months ago) link


watched pt one of the hbo show, its not great just read the wiki if youre interested

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 20:10 (three months ago) link

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