the unstoppable local-biz-swallowing pseudo-monopoly that is AMAZON

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Which city will prostitute itself successfully and land HQ #2?

https://splinternews.com/greatest-city-on-earth-humiliates-self-1819657291

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:42 (one year ago) Permalink

The city of Cleveland is talking about trying to wrap their mouths around Amazon's dick. They've yet to meet a billionaire they won't do anything for. Although "robust public transportation" and "cycling infrastructure" seem to be dealbreakers for Amazon, and Cleveland is way too far behind on those to even make it remotely feasible.

Last month the local rag offered up this wet fart of an op-ed suggesting we tear down the regional airport on the lakefront (which we should) to give the site to Amazon (which we shouldn't). http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/09/note_to_cleveland_team_seeking.html

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:48 (one year ago) Permalink

why the "pseudo"

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:49 (one year ago) Permalink

well they haven't yet reached monopolistic perfection

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Just wait for AMAZON 2049

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:53 (one year ago) Permalink

in a sweet bit of schizo governance yesterday, Mayor de Blasio blasted their effect of the local economy in a community meeting, as almost simultaneously NYC released its "plan" to lure them here.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:53 (one year ago) Permalink

First, there was the Sears & Roebuck mail order catalog in every outhouse across the continent. Then came a Woolworth's on every main street everywhere. Later on, Walmart was the reigning monarch of retail, killing main streets everywhere. Now, it is Amazon.com. The great conveyor belt of consumer items has no loyalty and no conscience, but it delivers the goods.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:54 (one year ago) Permalink

Walmart has a better climate change/GHG footprint policy afaik

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:57 (one year ago) Permalink

full disclosure I have never set foot inside a Walmart. I did just order a mandolin through Amazon. Does Walmart sell mandolins? I think the only things I buy through amazon are gift-related.

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:58 (one year ago) Permalink

do you mean the food slicer or the instrument?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:01 (one year ago) Permalink

the instrument. unaware of any other product with that name.

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 20:04 (one year ago) Permalink

oh i guess it's a mandoline my bad.

and walmart sells both!

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:05 (one year ago) Permalink

I assume that's a mandoline reference.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 October 2017 20:06 (one year ago) Permalink

xpost

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 October 2017 20:06 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

ICYMI Chicago officials, to lure Amazon, want to literally legalize .32 billion in wage theft https://t.co/GX0lWEjTbD

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) November 27, 2017

in a healthy society the 300 or so mayors would ban together with all other mayors and the federal govt and make the use of "incentives" to lure companies like Amazons–and the lobbying of corporations to and by city officials–illegal.

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) November 27, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:15 (one year ago) Permalink

The income tax thing is truly brazen, even for Amazon.

Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 16:23 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

“Our elaborate HQ2 PR exercise has reached some new, arbitrary round; continue to humiliate yourself so we can extract as much public resources out of your desperate city as possible” https://t.co/8QpvpIAwY5

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) January 18, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2018 21:54 (ten months ago) Permalink

this was unsurprising but has some dispiriting details: https://newrepublic.com/article/146540/amazon-thriving-thanks-taxpayer-dollars

rob, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:11 (ten months ago) Permalink

New Amazon brick and mortar store intriguing/disturbing/promising/alarming:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/21/technology/inside-amazon-go-a-store-of-the-future.html

You can't get in without the app on your phone, and once in there you basically shop at will, and (unless you are buying alcohol) it automatically charges you on the way out. No personal interactions at all. Definitely convenient. If you need to just run in and buy something you can literally run in and run out. I assume (if they don't do it already) that they will eventually start targeting specific ads and coupons based on your purchase history.

Does not portend good things for entry level jobs. I can also see Amazon licensing the technology out to other stores and basically profit off of the competition.

Anyway: intriguing/disturbing/promising/alarming.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:22 (ten months ago) Permalink

They've opened some brick-and-mortar bookstores already. I've heard that they're totally uninviting, like airport bookstores.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:26 (ten months ago) Permalink

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IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:32 (ten months ago) Permalink

the store in the NYT piece is a grocery store, and I can see it taking off for sure, definitely more likely to succeed than a bookstore.

rob, Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:41 (ten months ago) Permalink

The disturbing/alarming part here is very little different from what I find disturbing/alarming about online Amazon and phone apps in general, which is the degree to which they track you and compile data about you. These days I wouldn't be surprised if customer photos got appended to their files, too, since both mobile phones and many computers are equipped with cameras capable of doing that and app developers have zero scruples about your privacy. Every corporation you deal with is thirsty for data on you. Amazon is more sinister than the rest only because they are so powerful and control so many data streams.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:09 (ten months ago) Permalink

not to mention the fact that so many things run on Amazon servers.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:11 (ten months ago) Permalink

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/01/whole_foods_food_shortages_empty_shelves.html

fwiw there are claims that this is due to use of an ordering system that was implemented before Amazon took over, but it seems a little too coincidental that problems with it only came after Amazon took over.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:18 (ten months ago) Permalink

They've opened some brick-and-mortar bookstores already. I've heard that they're totally uninviting, like airport bookstores.


I quite like the one here, it’s the only real book bookstore I ever go in anymore. I never buy anything though, but I like browsing. Which is just what they want me to do, I suppose.

Jeff, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:32 (ten months ago) Permalink

Just to get back to it, the hook of the story I posted is that the Seattle grocery store is fully automated and virtually *staffless*.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:39 (ten months ago) Permalink

Eventually, the remaining skeleton staff at retail stores will live in the bowels of the building, below ground level, only emerging at night, like ghosts to shuffle the aisles, restocking shelves under the eerie glow of dim fluorescent bulbs.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:48 (ten months ago) Permalink

retail work is one of the most mind numbing, alienating, life-killing roles you can find yourself in so it's hard for me to see the downside in it being automated. no more jerk customers ruining your day, no more bosses telling you you aren't doing enough to push the super size cola. just program the robots to do that, let the teenagers stay at home and vape.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:53 (ten months ago) Permalink

The disturbing/alarming part here is very little different from what I find disturbing/alarming about online Amazon and phone apps in general, which is the degree to which they track you and compile data about you. These days I wouldn't be surprised if customer photos got appended to their files, too, since both mobile phones and many computers are equipped with cameras capable of doing that and app developers have zero scruples about your privacy.

If I'm reading the NYT piece right, the only way this technology can work is if the cameras in the store use facial recognition to match customers with their apps/database while they grab stuff off the shelves. Since the article states there isn't a chip on each item, it has to be the cameras that track what you, individually, pick up. Maybe I'm missing something and I'm not an expert, but I don't see how else cameras + software but no product IDs could work

rob, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:56 (ten months ago) Permalink

not quite sure I buy that for this case, because one of Amazon's "innovations" has been not eliminating menial jobs but moving them out of eyesight of its customers.

"just program the robots to do that, let the teenagers stay at home and vape do menial piecework on mechanical turks."

rob, Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:01 (ten months ago) Permalink

Automating drudgery is good! Proceeds flowing exclusively to the capitalist class is bad! Fully automated luxury communism is the solution.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:01 (ten months ago) Permalink

I bet there must be some way that identical twins, dressed identically, could mess that system up.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:02 (ten months ago) Permalink

If I'm reading the NYT piece right, the only way this technology can work is if the cameras in the store use facial recognition to match customers with their apps/database while they grab stuff off the shelves. Since the article states there isn't a chip on each item, it has to be the cameras that track what you, individually, pick up. Maybe I'm missing something and I'm not an expert, but I don't see how else cameras + software but no product IDs could work

I mentor at a startup accelerator and a couple of years ago we had a startup proposing exactly this. Tracking people through the store (not usin facial recognition in this case) seeing when people rallied over certain items, working out whether people did or didn’t purchase and then throwing up pictures of items people didn’t purchase on digital ads as the people walked past screens.

Their safety and security appplications were less creepy and they eventually went down that route with the tech but is only a matter of time before yesterday you walk out of a clothing store and have the pants you didnt buy follow you den the street.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

Haven't twins tried (unsuccessfully?) to fool Apple's face recognition?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

They've tried successfully too, though only a small fraction of them, and only it they try to look just like each other. (google "twins fool iphone x")

Lee626, Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:19 (ten months ago) Permalink

why can't they detect your phone? i can jump on a bus and watch myself be driven down a road on GPS. if im playing Pokemon Go at a stoplight and the car starts, the app immediately warns me about playing while driving. people even pay for stuff these days using their phone. they don't need to be super creepy, they can just detect phones.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:35 (ten months ago) Permalink

not buying the "no product IDs" line. if that were true you could just steal all that shit and they would have no way of knowing

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:36 (ten months ago) Permalink

they do detect your phone--I don't think you can get in the store without waving it at something. And sure maybe they're lying about the product IDs but then why else would they have hundreds of cameras watching everything? The push to make your face your most important form of ID has already started with the new iphone, unlocking yr Facebook account with a selfie, etc.

rob, Monday, 22 January 2018 15:46 (ten months ago) Permalink

i don't think you should be able to unlock your phone until you've made a competent photogravure of a body part (doesn't matter whose)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:48 (ten months ago) Permalink

Q: has there been a Black Mirror episode about this yet, and if so can anyone tell me how this particular innovation is predicted to destroy humanity in the near future, thx.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:07 (ten months ago) Permalink

There was section in the article I linked to with the guy wrapping a product in a bag then trying to carry it out under his arm without getting billed, but he was billed. So it's got to be more than just cameras.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:10 (ten months ago) Permalink

Q: has there been a Black Mirror episode about this yet, and if so can anyone tell me how this particular innovation is predicted to destroy humanity in the near future, thx.

Clearly a scenario where the computers won't let you leave until you've bought something, and those too poor to buy their way out get stuck in some warehouse doing menial indentured servant work until they can amass enough to get out. But they never can!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:11 (ten months ago) Permalink

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― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:32 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Legit lols, it can't take long for actual bookstores to come up with this

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:21 (ten months ago) Permalink

xp
I'm not sure I get why this is so hard to believe. The camera registers you picking up the item and not putting it back, so you get charged. I mean just imagine a person followed you around the store and observed everything you did--concealing the product in a bag wouldn't do anything. Machine vision is pretty advanced

rob, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:25 (ten months ago) Permalink

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IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:27 (ten months ago) Permalink

I've noticed lately that Amazon has adopted Google's obnoxious 'we'll just go ahead and assume that you were actually searching for this other thing because the explicit search string you entered couldn't possibly be correct' thing. No, I can actually spell, thanks.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:28 (ten months ago) Permalink

You scan your phone on the way in. So they know who's there shopping, and presumably the system follows you and observes your shopping behavior. You pick something up. The cameras detect that it has left the shelf. If it goes back onto the shelf, it assumes you were just looking at it. If it goes into your bag, it's yours now.

What is interesting about that is that the cameras aren't there just to make sure you don't steal things (that would be much easier to do with RFID). They're there to observe and analyze people's shopping behavior - information that is pretty much golden in retail-world. And because Amazon ALSO knows what records, books, and sexual lubricants you like, they can cross-reference to get ever-more granular market segmentation information.

I know many people find that creepy, but it's much less about embarrassing/exposing YOU particularly (haha, as if they give a shit about you specifically). More about detecting ways to make people in general spend money.

Did more suburban white female knitting enthusiasts aged 35-54 look at the carrots that were at waist height? Or the carrots that were at eye level? Do they have different carrot preferences if they are also into Christian dating sites?

And what about the frozen lasagna? Are 90s grunge fans more likely to buy frozen lasagna that is on an end cap, or on a longer aisle? Do people who buy organic toothpaste buy fair-trade coffee? Do people who like gluten-free beer also buy unscented fabric softener?

What's the optimal number of paper-towel rolls for a 42-year-old man whose last record purchase was Chicago XII and who plays golf?

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:30 (ten months ago) Permalink

lol

DJI, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:33 (nine months ago) Permalink

just a li'l device that sits in your house, listens to everything you say at the behest of the world's richest man, and giggles to itself from time to time, nbd

War, Famine, Pestilence, Death, Umami (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:46 (nine months ago) Permalink

picturing an Echo jammed in the toilet, burbling laughter endlessly, in an abandoned neighborhood

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

wot if etc etc

Simon H., Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:47 (nine months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Amazon's latest workplace innovation

At the beating heart of Amazon’s unstoppable ecommerce expansion is a very basic promise: jobs.

When a Fulfillment Center opens, the expectation is that anywhere from 1,000 to 2,200 positions will become available overnight, each providing 40 hours of work week at a minimum. In reality, the labor hours Amazon needs to power its brutally efficient supply chain appear to be far fewer. To reduce overhead but continue to sop up performance-based incentives from the local governments it operates in, Amazon has become increasingly reliant on a work scheduling scheme that often coerces workers into leaving their shifts early or turns them away at the door without notice.

I spoke to 13 of the company’s current and former warehouse workers based in nearly as many states, all of whom were granted anonymity for fear of retaliation. According to their testimonies, the sign that Amazon’s expanding empire may not have the labor needs to support the employment numbers it dangles in front of local politicians is an innocuous sounding acronym: VTO.

https://gizmodo.com/on-amazon-s-time-1826570882

Simon H., Wednesday, 13 June 2018 17:37 (six months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Hamilton Nolan has some thoughts on how to celebrate #PrimeDay:

Fill your WolfWarriorX Military Tactical Assault Backpack with Military Surplus MREs and Purified Drinking Water. Now you’re ready to march. These KARKEIN Military Tactical Boots Army Combat Jungle Boots are suitable for both men and women. Lace em up, gather all your union friends, and march your ass down to Washington, DC. Your destination is Jeff Bezos’ house, at 2320 and 2330 S Street NW. You can’t miss it—it’s the biggest fucking house in town.

Who would Amazon’s boss be more thrilled to see on #PrimeDay than a cadre of his own employees? Probably nobody. When you’re sure he’s home, use this Neiko 02845A Electric Demolition Jack Hammer to systematically tear the pavement around his house into large, jagged chunks. Pile the concrete chunks into a barrier encircling his entire block, interspersed with crude checkpoints made by wrapping Hitachi 115445 Folding Sawhorses with ample amounts of Fence America Razor Wire. Stud barrier with LEPOWER Solar Flood Lights and Kaya Bamboo Torches. Then put up your Coleman Instant Cabin tent and get some shut eye! While playing The Internationale on repeat through several dozen evenly spaced Pyle 1600W Heavy Duty Speakers.

https://splinternews.com/the-only-amazon-prime-day-guide-you-need-1827624247

Simon H., Monday, 16 July 2018 17:10 (five months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

had to laugh when I saw they were funding mike leigh's peterloo film

ogmor, Tuesday, 25 September 2018 09:10 (two months ago) Permalink

Can't watch it, just read the article. As they say: "Gizmodo has opted to not publish the video itself in order to maintain source anonymity."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 17:54 (two months ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

fun

Despite an uprising of Amazon employees over the use of the company's AI facial recognition program ("Rekognition") in law enforcement, the company is actively courting US Immigration and Customs Enforcement in the hopes that it will use the wildly inaccurate technology.

Thanks to work by McKinsney, ICE and Amazon's sales team met over the summer to discuss how Amazon's facial recognition could help the agency, which has cemented its reputation for performative xenophobic cruelty with a program of stealing babies from immigrant parents, dooming thousands of babies and children to never see their parents again.

ICE could use facial recognition as part of its illegal surveillance of medical facilities and houses of worship.

https://boingboing.net/2018/10/23/oppenheimers-ai.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 16:03 (one month ago) Permalink

oh good:

Democrats rank Amazon as the institution they have the most confidence in https://t.co/OVGAajPsWD

— Matt Bruenig (@MattBruenig) October 24, 2018

rob, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 16:54 (one month ago) Permalink

ah being discussed elsewhere I see

rob, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 16:57 (one month ago) Permalink

Colleges and Universities at 2 seriously

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:10 (one month ago) Permalink

most likely people thought "well I usually get my packages on time so I guess I trust Amazon"

the dutiful and the banned (rip van wanko), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:12 (one month ago) Permalink

what does "having confidence in" mean for a company like amazon anyway? I mean, they are very reliable, doesn't mean they aren't shitty in ways that don't affect customers

on the other hand google and facebook can sometimes be deceitful in a way that actually does affect their end users, so I'm not surprised they are lower (though google at #4 is higher that I would have thought)

silverfish, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:32 (one month ago) Permalink

Amazon’s algorithmic pricing and self-serving search results are pretty untrustworthy from a user perspective

rob, Wednesday, 24 October 2018 18:37 (one month ago) Permalink

wtf, Amazon is now considered "an institution"?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 October 2018 00:33 (one month ago) Permalink

as of 2016 they controlled 31% of the global market in cloud computing infrastructure, and when they have problems it immediately creates many problems for many people. https://gizmodo.com/how-one-little-amazon-error-can-destroy-the-internet-1792828399

so yeah, i guess they are, now. whoooops!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 October 2018 00:51 (one month ago) Permalink

We gotta fuck this shit up. https://t.co/BUZzgbrCMj

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) November 6, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 17:47 (one month ago) Permalink

man I would've bet a lot of money on Boston

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:13 (one month ago) Permalink

glad I didn't!

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:13 (one month ago) Permalink

DC area is so obvious in retrospect, I feel dumb for not realizing that earlier

rob, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:21 (one month ago) Permalink

pretty happy it isn't boston

ciderpress, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Arlington is my hometown and already has been through cycles of gentrification/development/displacement in my lifetime but efforts for denser development and affordable housing have been playing out with some success in the last 10 years so maybe it won't be an immediate disaster for housing affordability and the latinx communities living there and in Alexandria and Falls Church

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 18:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Silby, Arlington has been pretty good about affordable housing, diversity,
density, and transit. I wish those things weren't luxury goods, but we do what we can here.

Crystal City has loads of vacant space; it would be cool to see it used rather than watch it crumble.

Glasnostradamus (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 6 November 2018 19:46 (one month ago) Permalink

this is weird: Booksellers Protest Amazon Site’s Move to Drop Stores From Certain Countries

On Saturday night, in response to a query from a reporter, AbeBooks issued a statement saying it was dropping the countries because “our third-party payment service provider is closing at the end of the year.” It added that, “We regret that we cannot continue to serve all sellers.”

Asked how many booksellers and countries were affected, Richard Davies, an AbeBooks spokesman, said, “I am not adding anything else to that statement.”

Mr. Brown, one of the dealers organizing the protests, said that for many of the booksellers, AbeBooks’ actions underlined both Amazon’s power and its refusal to be accountable for it.

“The biggest e-commerce giant in the world apparently finds it too complicated to do business in Prague,” he said. “You have to wonder who’s next. We’re all vulnerable to Amazon’s capricious actions.”


The complete lack of information makes it hard to understand what’s going on here. It’s not clear whether they are withdrawing from specific markets or cannot service specific sellers. I don’t really understand how a change in payment provider or system would affect specific countries. I guess it’s possible that some seller systems may not report in a way compatible with the new software or platform. But they also seem to be citing unspecified complexities and expenses associated with named markets.

The complete lack of notice and public comms from Abebooks are both very poor.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 21:18 (one month ago) Permalink

r.i.p. jokes pic.twitter.com/aYgsPE5xN1

— Miriam Bale (@mimbale) November 13, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 15:18 (one month ago) Permalink

idk what that was but: i hate amazon

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 15:46 (one month ago) Permalink

amazon more like amazin(g)

ciderpress, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 16:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh she deleted it for some reason, anyway someone listed a variety of "joke" demands for Amazon (e.g. keep worker fatalities under 40/year), then in a followup about an hour later it was announced that NY was paying out some ungodly sum to Amazon for the privilege (unclear if it was a literal payout or just tax incentives)

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 16:23 (one month ago) Permalink

Might actually make sense to incentivize the Crystal City site, that office space has been emptying iirc

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 16:33 (one month ago) Permalink

*this* is the thing they come together to do. https://t.co/1uNWiaMcIk

— Vinson Cunningham (@vcunningham) November 13, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:26 (one month ago) Permalink

Can't they just build a barge for them in the Hudson River. All of this makes no sense. Amazon needs NYC more than NYC needs them. But sure give them shitloads of money to fuck up the infrastructure.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:34 (one month ago) Permalink

The inflatable rat industry is going to be popping.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:36 (one month ago) Permalink

the most humiliating thing i read recently was how Andrew Cuomo said "i'll change my name to Amazon Cuomo if they come to NY."

omar little, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:37 (one month ago) Permalink

As a New Yorker, I am black. As a New Yorker, I am Jewish. As a New Yorker, I am an e-commerce monopolist.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah, the councilpeople for Queens are already utilizing that stupid ass name because they didn't bother to go through the proper community review process.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Stupid ass Willie Wonka stunt.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:43 (one month ago) Permalink

The Atlantic weighs in.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:47 (one month ago) Permalink

looks like VA's deal is much better. 1/4 of the nominal dollar value is infrastructure spending, including on Metro. The per-job incentive is also half of what NY is offering. Obviously this is all very stupid though.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:50 (one month ago) Permalink

New York taxpayers will be forced to literally subsidize a HELIPAD for Jeff Bezos https://t.co/WuOBIHHU7M pic.twitter.com/UiYdq5gdjf

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) November 13, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:40 (one month ago) Permalink

Bezos basically went from Kevin from The Office to Lex Luthor.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:48 (one month ago) Permalink

One last kicker

.@NYGovCuomo confirms that Amazon project will be approved through Empire State Development, which he controls, removing the need for a City Council vote to approve the zoning.

— Erin Durkin (@erinmdurkin) November 13, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Christ, what an asshole

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:56 (one month ago) Permalink

I voted for Nixon. Fuck Cuomo.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:56 (one month ago) Permalink

i voted for Nixon, and Howie Hawkins last week

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:11 (one month ago) Permalink

de blasio just now: "One of the biggest companies on earth next to the biggest public housing development in the United States — the synergy is going to be extraordinary."

— Eliza Relman (@eliza_relman) November 13, 2018

and so say all of us: tap into america

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:17 (one month ago) Permalink

I look fwd to BdB and his frenemy the Prince never being elected to anything ever again

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Cuomo can’t respond to the genuine left critique: That cities should not offer incentives like this at all. In fact, he dismisses this as unrealistic:

Nothing in the Amazon transaction is new. The tax incentives we provide for single business transactions are usual and typical and have been operational for decades. They are long standing programs supported by both Democrats and Republicans in both the city and the state. Nor are tax incentive programs unique to New York. Every state offers incentives to attract businesses and we are in a constant competition with other states and nations to attract and keep good businesses. One could argue that in a perfect world no city or state would be legally allowed to offer incentives and there would be no competition for individuals or businesses. True. But this is not a perfect world. Our state is in an intense daily competition with other states and, indeed, other countries. Wisconsin lured Foxconn Technology with 13,000 jobs for a $3 billion incentive package. A locality in Texas lured Exxon Mobil with 400 jobs for a $1.2 billion subsidy. Louisiana attracted DXCTechnology and 2,000 jobs with a $115 million incentive. The list goes on.

Buddy, the fact that nothing in this “transaction” is new is the socialist critique. The fact that this is business as usual is the problem. The fact that both Democrats and Republicans support this is very fucking bad, not evidence that it’s good and fine. Also, a weird flex to bring up Wisconsin’s appalling Foxconn giveaway, which may cost the state as much as a million fucking dollars per job. But OK!

https://splinternews.com/everything-about-andrew-cuomos-big-defense-of-the-amazo-1830539740

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 November 2018 21:32 (four weeks ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

the robot uprising has begun

Twenty-four employees at an Amazon warehouse in New Jersey were taken to hospital after a robot accidentally punctured a can of bear repellent.

The 255g can containing concentrated capsaicin, a compound in chilli peppers, was punctured by an automated machine after it fell off a shelf, according to local media.

The incident happened on Wednesday at a warehouse in Robbinsville, New Jersey, on the outskirts of Trenton.

Amazon said: “All of the impacted employees have been or are expected to be released from hospital within the next 24 hours. The safety of our employees is always our top priority and a full investigation is already under way.”

The employees were taken to hospital “as a precaution”, Amazon said earlier.

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:30 (one week ago) Permalink


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