the unstoppable local-biz-swallowing pseudo-monopoly that is AMAZON

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Which city will prostitute itself successfully and land HQ #2?

https://splinternews.com/greatest-city-on-earth-humiliates-self-1819657291

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:42 (one year ago) Permalink

The city of Cleveland is talking about trying to wrap their mouths around Amazon's dick. They've yet to meet a billionaire they won't do anything for. Although "robust public transportation" and "cycling infrastructure" seem to be dealbreakers for Amazon, and Cleveland is way too far behind on those to even make it remotely feasible.

Last month the local rag offered up this wet fart of an op-ed suggesting we tear down the regional airport on the lakefront (which we should) to give the site to Amazon (which we shouldn't). http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/09/note_to_cleveland_team_seeking.html

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:48 (one year ago) Permalink

why the "pseudo"

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:49 (one year ago) Permalink

well they haven't yet reached monopolistic perfection

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Just wait for AMAZON 2049

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:53 (one year ago) Permalink

in a sweet bit of schizo governance yesterday, Mayor de Blasio blasted their effect of the local economy in a community meeting, as almost simultaneously NYC released its "plan" to lure them here.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:53 (one year ago) Permalink

First, there was the Sears & Roebuck mail order catalog in every outhouse across the continent. Then came a Woolworth's on every main street everywhere. Later on, Walmart was the reigning monarch of retail, killing main streets everywhere. Now, it is Amazon.com. The great conveyor belt of consumer items has no loyalty and no conscience, but it delivers the goods.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 20 October 2017 19:54 (one year ago) Permalink

Walmart has a better climate change/GHG footprint policy afaik

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:57 (one year ago) Permalink

full disclosure I have never set foot inside a Walmart. I did just order a mandolin through Amazon. Does Walmart sell mandolins? I think the only things I buy through amazon are gift-related.

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 19:58 (one year ago) Permalink

do you mean the food slicer or the instrument?

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:01 (one year ago) Permalink

the instrument. unaware of any other product with that name.

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 October 2017 20:04 (one year ago) Permalink

oh i guess it's a mandoline my bad.

and walmart sells both!

-_- (jim in vancouver), Friday, 20 October 2017 20:05 (one year ago) Permalink

I assume that's a mandoline reference.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 October 2017 20:06 (one year ago) Permalink

xpost

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 October 2017 20:06 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

ICYMI Chicago officials, to lure Amazon, want to literally legalize .32 billion in wage theft https://t.co/GX0lWEjTbD

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) November 27, 2017

in a healthy society the 300 or so mayors would ban together with all other mayors and the federal govt and make the use of "incentives" to lure companies like Amazons–and the lobbying of corporations to and by city officials–illegal.

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) November 27, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:15 (one year ago) Permalink

The income tax thing is truly brazen, even for Amazon.

Simon H., Monday, 27 November 2017 16:23 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

“Our elaborate HQ2 PR exercise has reached some new, arbitrary round; continue to humiliate yourself so we can extract as much public resources out of your desperate city as possible” https://t.co/8QpvpIAwY5

— Adam H. Johnson (@adamjohnsonNYC) January 18, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 18 January 2018 21:54 (one year ago) Permalink

this was unsurprising but has some dispiriting details: https://newrepublic.com/article/146540/amazon-thriving-thanks-taxpayer-dollars

rob, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:11 (one year ago) Permalink

New Amazon brick and mortar store intriguing/disturbing/promising/alarming:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/21/technology/inside-amazon-go-a-store-of-the-future.html

You can't get in without the app on your phone, and once in there you basically shop at will, and (unless you are buying alcohol) it automatically charges you on the way out. No personal interactions at all. Definitely convenient. If you need to just run in and buy something you can literally run in and run out. I assume (if they don't do it already) that they will eventually start targeting specific ads and coupons based on your purchase history.

Does not portend good things for entry level jobs. I can also see Amazon licensing the technology out to other stores and basically profit off of the competition.

Anyway: intriguing/disturbing/promising/alarming.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:22 (one year ago) Permalink

They've opened some brick-and-mortar bookstores already. I've heard that they're totally uninviting, like airport bookstores.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:26 (one year ago) Permalink

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IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:32 (one year ago) Permalink

the store in the NYT piece is a grocery store, and I can see it taking off for sure, definitely more likely to succeed than a bookstore.

rob, Sunday, 21 January 2018 18:41 (one year ago) Permalink

The disturbing/alarming part here is very little different from what I find disturbing/alarming about online Amazon and phone apps in general, which is the degree to which they track you and compile data about you. These days I wouldn't be surprised if customer photos got appended to their files, too, since both mobile phones and many computers are equipped with cameras capable of doing that and app developers have zero scruples about your privacy. Every corporation you deal with is thirsty for data on you. Amazon is more sinister than the rest only because they are so powerful and control so many data streams.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:09 (one year ago) Permalink

not to mention the fact that so many things run on Amazon servers.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:11 (one year ago) Permalink

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/01/whole_foods_food_shortages_empty_shelves.html

fwiw there are claims that this is due to use of an ordering system that was implemented before Amazon took over, but it seems a little too coincidental that problems with it only came after Amazon took over.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:18 (one year ago) Permalink

They've opened some brick-and-mortar bookstores already. I've heard that they're totally uninviting, like airport bookstores.


I quite like the one here, it’s the only real book bookstore I ever go in anymore. I never buy anything though, but I like browsing. Which is just what they want me to do, I suppose.

Jeff, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:32 (one year ago) Permalink

Just to get back to it, the hook of the story I posted is that the Seattle grocery store is fully automated and virtually *staffless*.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Eventually, the remaining skeleton staff at retail stores will live in the bowels of the building, below ground level, only emerging at night, like ghosts to shuffle the aisles, restocking shelves under the eerie glow of dim fluorescent bulbs.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:48 (one year ago) Permalink

retail work is one of the most mind numbing, alienating, life-killing roles you can find yourself in so it's hard for me to see the downside in it being automated. no more jerk customers ruining your day, no more bosses telling you you aren't doing enough to push the super size cola. just program the robots to do that, let the teenagers stay at home and vape.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:53 (one year ago) Permalink

The disturbing/alarming part here is very little different from what I find disturbing/alarming about online Amazon and phone apps in general, which is the degree to which they track you and compile data about you. These days I wouldn't be surprised if customer photos got appended to their files, too, since both mobile phones and many computers are equipped with cameras capable of doing that and app developers have zero scruples about your privacy.

If I'm reading the NYT piece right, the only way this technology can work is if the cameras in the store use facial recognition to match customers with their apps/database while they grab stuff off the shelves. Since the article states there isn't a chip on each item, it has to be the cameras that track what you, individually, pick up. Maybe I'm missing something and I'm not an expert, but I don't see how else cameras + software but no product IDs could work

rob, Sunday, 21 January 2018 19:56 (one year ago) Permalink

not quite sure I buy that for this case, because one of Amazon's "innovations" has been not eliminating menial jobs but moving them out of eyesight of its customers.

"just program the robots to do that, let the teenagers stay at home and vape do menial piecework on mechanical turks."

rob, Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:01 (one year ago) Permalink

Automating drudgery is good! Proceeds flowing exclusively to the capitalist class is bad! Fully automated luxury communism is the solution.

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I bet there must be some way that identical twins, dressed identically, could mess that system up.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:02 (one year ago) Permalink

If I'm reading the NYT piece right, the only way this technology can work is if the cameras in the store use facial recognition to match customers with their apps/database while they grab stuff off the shelves. Since the article states there isn't a chip on each item, it has to be the cameras that track what you, individually, pick up. Maybe I'm missing something and I'm not an expert, but I don't see how else cameras + software but no product IDs could work

I mentor at a startup accelerator and a couple of years ago we had a startup proposing exactly this. Tracking people through the store (not usin facial recognition in this case) seeing when people rallied over certain items, working out whether people did or didn’t purchase and then throwing up pictures of items people didn’t purchase on digital ads as the people walked past screens.

Their safety and security appplications were less creepy and they eventually went down that route with the tech but is only a matter of time before yesterday you walk out of a clothing store and have the pants you didnt buy follow you den the street.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:08 (one year ago) Permalink

Haven't twins tried (unsuccessfully?) to fool Apple's face recognition?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:10 (one year ago) Permalink

They've tried successfully too, though only a small fraction of them, and only it they try to look just like each other. (google "twins fool iphone x")

Lee626, Sunday, 21 January 2018 20:19 (one year ago) Permalink

why can't they detect your phone? i can jump on a bus and watch myself be driven down a road on GPS. if im playing Pokemon Go at a stoplight and the car starts, the app immediately warns me about playing while driving. people even pay for stuff these days using their phone. they don't need to be super creepy, they can just detect phones.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:35 (one year ago) Permalink

not buying the "no product IDs" line. if that were true you could just steal all that shit and they would have no way of knowing

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:36 (one year ago) Permalink

they do detect your phone--I don't think you can get in the store without waving it at something. And sure maybe they're lying about the product IDs but then why else would they have hundreds of cameras watching everything? The push to make your face your most important form of ID has already started with the new iphone, unlocking yr Facebook account with a selfie, etc.

rob, Monday, 22 January 2018 15:46 (one year ago) Permalink

i don't think you should be able to unlock your phone until you've made a competent photogravure of a body part (doesn't matter whose)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Q: has there been a Black Mirror episode about this yet, and if so can anyone tell me how this particular innovation is predicted to destroy humanity in the near future, thx.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:07 (one year ago) Permalink

There was section in the article I linked to with the guy wrapping a product in a bag then trying to carry it out under his arm without getting billed, but he was billed. So it's got to be more than just cameras.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:10 (one year ago) Permalink

Q: has there been a Black Mirror episode about this yet, and if so can anyone tell me how this particular innovation is predicted to destroy humanity in the near future, thx.

Clearly a scenario where the computers won't let you leave until you've bought something, and those too poor to buy their way out get stuck in some warehouse doing menial indentured servant work until they can amass enough to get out. But they never can!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:11 (one year ago) Permalink

PICKS FROM OUR ALGORITHM

― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:32 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Legit lols, it can't take long for actual bookstores to come up with this

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:21 (one year ago) Permalink

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I'm not sure I get why this is so hard to believe. The camera registers you picking up the item and not putting it back, so you get charged. I mean just imagine a person followed you around the store and observed everything you did--concealing the product in a bag wouldn't do anything. Machine vision is pretty advanced

rob, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:25 (one year ago) Permalink

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IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:27 (one year ago) Permalink

I've noticed lately that Amazon has adopted Google's obnoxious 'we'll just go ahead and assume that you were actually searching for this other thing because the explicit search string you entered couldn't possibly be correct' thing. No, I can actually spell, thanks.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:28 (one year ago) Permalink

You scan your phone on the way in. So they know who's there shopping, and presumably the system follows you and observes your shopping behavior. You pick something up. The cameras detect that it has left the shelf. If it goes back onto the shelf, it assumes you were just looking at it. If it goes into your bag, it's yours now.

What is interesting about that is that the cameras aren't there just to make sure you don't steal things (that would be much easier to do with RFID). They're there to observe and analyze people's shopping behavior - information that is pretty much golden in retail-world. And because Amazon ALSO knows what records, books, and sexual lubricants you like, they can cross-reference to get ever-more granular market segmentation information.

I know many people find that creepy, but it's much less about embarrassing/exposing YOU particularly (haha, as if they give a shit about you specifically). More about detecting ways to make people in general spend money.

Did more suburban white female knitting enthusiasts aged 35-54 look at the carrots that were at waist height? Or the carrots that were at eye level? Do they have different carrot preferences if they are also into Christian dating sites?

And what about the frozen lasagna? Are 90s grunge fans more likely to buy frozen lasagna that is on an end cap, or on a longer aisle? Do people who buy organic toothpaste buy fair-trade coffee? Do people who like gluten-free beer also buy unscented fabric softener?

What's the optimal number of paper-towel rolls for a 42-year-old man whose last record purchase was Chicago XII and who plays golf?

godzillas in the mist (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 22 January 2018 16:30 (one year ago) Permalink

*this* is the thing they come together to do. https://t.co/1uNWiaMcIk

— Vinson Cunningham (@vcunningham) November 13, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:26 (five months ago) Permalink

Can't they just build a barge for them in the Hudson River. All of this makes no sense. Amazon needs NYC more than NYC needs them. But sure give them shitloads of money to fuck up the infrastructure.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:34 (five months ago) Permalink

The inflatable rat industry is going to be popping.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:36 (five months ago) Permalink

the most humiliating thing i read recently was how Andrew Cuomo said "i'll change my name to Amazon Cuomo if they come to NY."

omar little, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:37 (five months ago) Permalink

As a New Yorker, I am black. As a New Yorker, I am Jewish. As a New Yorker, I am an e-commerce monopolist.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:39 (five months ago) Permalink

Yeah, the councilpeople for Queens are already utilizing that stupid ass name because they didn't bother to go through the proper community review process.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:41 (five months ago) Permalink

Stupid ass Willie Wonka stunt.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:43 (five months ago) Permalink

The Atlantic weighs in.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:47 (five months ago) Permalink

looks like VA's deal is much better. 1/4 of the nominal dollar value is infrastructure spending, including on Metro. The per-job incentive is also half of what NY is offering. Obviously this is all very stupid though.

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 17:50 (five months ago) Permalink

New York taxpayers will be forced to literally subsidize a HELIPAD for Jeff Bezos https://t.co/WuOBIHHU7M pic.twitter.com/UiYdq5gdjf

— David Sirota (@davidsirota) November 13, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:40 (five months ago) Permalink

Bezos basically went from Kevin from The Office to Lex Luthor.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:48 (five months ago) Permalink

One last kicker

.@NYGovCuomo confirms that Amazon project will be approved through Empire State Development, which he controls, removing the need for a City Council vote to approve the zoning.

— Erin Durkin (@erinmdurkin) November 13, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:55 (five months ago) Permalink

Christ, what an asshole

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:56 (five months ago) Permalink

I voted for Nixon. Fuck Cuomo.

Yerac, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 18:56 (five months ago) Permalink

i voted for Nixon, and Howie Hawkins last week

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:11 (five months ago) Permalink

de blasio just now: "One of the biggest companies on earth next to the biggest public housing development in the United States — the synergy is going to be extraordinary."

— Eliza Relman (@eliza_relman) November 13, 2018

and so say all of us: tap into america

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:17 (five months ago) Permalink

I look fwd to BdB and his frenemy the Prince never being elected to anything ever again

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 November 2018 19:22 (five months ago) Permalink

Cuomo can’t respond to the genuine left critique: That cities should not offer incentives like this at all. In fact, he dismisses this as unrealistic:

Nothing in the Amazon transaction is new. The tax incentives we provide for single business transactions are usual and typical and have been operational for decades. They are long standing programs supported by both Democrats and Republicans in both the city and the state. Nor are tax incentive programs unique to New York. Every state offers incentives to attract businesses and we are in a constant competition with other states and nations to attract and keep good businesses. One could argue that in a perfect world no city or state would be legally allowed to offer incentives and there would be no competition for individuals or businesses. True. But this is not a perfect world. Our state is in an intense daily competition with other states and, indeed, other countries. Wisconsin lured Foxconn Technology with 13,000 jobs for a $3 billion incentive package. A locality in Texas lured Exxon Mobil with 400 jobs for a $1.2 billion subsidy. Louisiana attracted DXCTechnology and 2,000 jobs with a $115 million incentive. The list goes on.

Buddy, the fact that nothing in this “transaction” is new is the socialist critique. The fact that this is business as usual is the problem. The fact that both Democrats and Republicans support this is very fucking bad, not evidence that it’s good and fine. Also, a weird flex to bring up Wisconsin’s appalling Foxconn giveaway, which may cost the state as much as a million fucking dollars per job. But OK!

https://splinternews.com/everything-about-andrew-cuomos-big-defense-of-the-amazo-1830539740

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 November 2018 21:32 (five months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

the robot uprising has begun

Twenty-four employees at an Amazon warehouse in New Jersey were taken to hospital after a robot accidentally punctured a can of bear repellent.

The 255g can containing concentrated capsaicin, a compound in chilli peppers, was punctured by an automated machine after it fell off a shelf, according to local media.

The incident happened on Wednesday at a warehouse in Robbinsville, New Jersey, on the outskirts of Trenton.

Amazon said: “All of the impacted employees have been or are expected to be released from hospital within the next 24 hours. The safety of our employees is always our top priority and a full investigation is already under way.”

The employees were taken to hospital “as a precaution”, Amazon said earlier.

We're in 2009—it's time to take risks, (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 December 2018 15:30 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

EXCLUSIVE: Amazon is thinking of pulling out of New York HQ2 deal, because of strong opposition from local politicians. Northern Virginia could get some or all of the jobs slated for NYC. https://t.co/hn6ImP5toF

— Robert McCartney (@McCartneyWP) February 8, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:26 (two months ago) Permalink

Good.

Yerac, Friday, 8 February 2019 17:30 (two months ago) Permalink

of course it could just be a negotiating tactic/ruse

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:32 (two months ago) Permalink

fine by everyone i know in queens.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:37 (two months ago) Permalink

GOOD

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:46 (two months ago) Permalink

Northern Virginia makes much more sense anyway, they just wanted to go to New York for the glamor

Norm’s Superego (silby), Friday, 8 February 2019 17:53 (two months ago) Permalink

God, is this gonna fuck it up even worse for those of us in the DC orbit? Thanks a lot, Nerd York.

peace, man, Friday, 8 February 2019 18:15 (two months ago) Permalink

smells like victory

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 February 2019 18:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I would maybe consider letting amazon move in if the surrounding co-op boards in LIC and Astoria interviewed them first.

Yerac, Friday, 8 February 2019 22:24 (two months ago) Permalink

they really ought to move to toledo or buffalo or something.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 8 February 2019 22:26 (two months ago) Permalink

AMAZON CANCELS PLAN TO COME TO NEW YORK

"After much thought and deliberation, we’ve decided not to move forward with our plans to build a headquarters for Amazon in Long Island City, Queens" - Amazon spokeswoman Jodi Seth

— J. David Goodman (@jdavidgoodman) February 14, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 February 2019 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

almost certainly the best thing for the city

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 14 February 2019 17:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Union leaders castigate Amazon for its workplace practices and resistance to unionization, but have said they would be more open to supporting the deal if the company made changes.
“I think that what they need to do is have a dialogue with us,” said Stuart Appelbaum, an outspoken opponent and the president of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union. “If they’re receiving $3 billion in money, including from union members and workers, they shouldn’t then take that money and use it to fight their workers.”
George L. Miranda, the head of the Teamsters Local 210, said his union could get behind the deal if Amazon agreed to not actively resist unionization at its offices and warehouses in New York.
“Remain neutral. That’s all we’re asking,” said Mr. Miranda, whose union has rallied with opponents. “It would say that they want to be good, responsible corporate leaders here in New York City.”

versus
For Amazon, the commitment to build a new headquarters requires positive, collaborative relationships with state and local elected officials who will be supportive over the long-term. While polls show that 70% of New Yorkers support our plans and investment, a number of state and local politicians have made it clear that they oppose our presence and will not work with us to build the type of relationships that are required to go forward with the project we and many others envisioned in Long Island City.

disingenuous as fuck imo

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 14 February 2019 17:37 (two months ago) Permalink

As someone who owns land in Arlington, Virginia, I, um, approve?

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Amazon is not a hip new york company at all anyway, they are far more suited to being a stodgy Northern Virginia company

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

and yeah should make my childhood home more valuable, as if my parents weren't already completely comfortable in their retirement

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:28 (two months ago) Permalink

well acc to that statement they're not committing to building anything in N Va or anywhere else beyond what they already announced

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 14 February 2019 19:29 (two months ago) Permalink

Amazon is not a hip new york company at all anyway, they are far more suited to being a stodgy Northern Virginia company

― Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, February 14, 2019 2:28 PM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they sure are: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/31/amazon-defense-cloud-computing-pentagon-jeff-bezos

rob, Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:13 (two months ago) Permalink

indeed

Norm’s Superego (silby), Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:22 (two months ago) Permalink

Amazon will pay $0 in federal income taxes on $11.2 billion in profit. https://t.co/Kmfv6TMzJV

— FORTUNE (@FortuneMagazine) February 14, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:55 (two months ago) Permalink

He should be taxed for dick picks.

Yerac, Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:57 (two months ago) Permalink

Didn't a bunch of Amazon people buy real estate on HQ2 insider info?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 14 February 2019 21:13 (two months ago) Permalink

One factor that concerned Amazon executives was how activists in New York City broadened their attacks from the specifics of the deal to the company’s practices far beyond the five boroughs, on unions and working with ICE, per two people familiar with Amazon's decision.

— J. David Goodman (@jdavidgoodman) February 14, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 February 2019 23:04 (two months ago) Permalink

NJ's Gov Murphy and Newark officials heavily romancing Amazon for HQ2

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 February 2019 17:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Welp, there goes Newark's Ironbound if these jerks move in. Goodbye blue collar, hello blue agave turmeric smoothies!

Carly Jae Vespen (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 15 February 2019 17:43 (two months ago) Permalink

Never mind just the Ironbound; the whole area's so densely populated, rents are gonna spike across three counties.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 15 February 2019 17:56 (two months ago) Permalink

"Worst day for nyc since 9-11, except this time the terrorists were elected." David Lichtenstein of @LightstoneGroup on #AmazonHQ2

— Amir Korangy (@mrkorangy) February 15, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 February 2019 02:32 (two months ago) Permalink

gross.

Yerac, Friday, 1 March 2019 00:48 (one month ago) Permalink

last June, Seattle city council passed a head tax on businesses to fund solutions for the homeless crisis (caused in large part by economic imbalance from the city's third extended tech boom) [nb: WA has no income tax]

the newly-elected corporate-boosting mayor reacted to pressure from Amazon threatening to dump a downtown office space lease, by illegally colluding with councillors to cancel the tax days later

today: Amazon dumped that lease without ever moving in

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 1 March 2019 03:31 (one month ago) Permalink


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