Trump, October 2017: Apologize for untruth, u bum

how much worse could it get jk a lot worse

yeah don't answer

I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man...

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 1, 2017

...Save your energy Rex, we'll do what has to be done!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 1, 2017

Honestly I shrug at that one.

I though Rick was department of energy. You're barking up the wrong tree, Trump! Sad!

Anyway, this is truly insane. So does this mean Rex was seeing North Korea on the sly? And Trump found out and ... is now undermining the effort?

I remember when I used to assume, as a vague background sort of thing, that I would live to see the age of 50. It's nice being free of the anxiety of wondering who will care for me in my old age.

That news was reported yesterday -- IIRC Tillerson himself said that contacts had been made and were ongoing. Two to one says Trump didn't know and is trying to claw back, yes.

Presumably he only heard about it today because he spent the entirety of the last two days demanding updated lists of people who said he was doing great in Puerto Rico, and/or of people in various situations and locales following his orders to stand up for the national anthem.

I mean the other explanation is equally obvious and likely -- braggadacio aside Trump said "Yeah yeah, talk to them," the news goes public and he realizes it looks like he caved.

the news yesterday that tillerson and the state department had back channel talks with north korea was seriously the only piece of even moderately good news with this administration last week, good job Donald blowing that to pieces this morning

Don't worry! Ron Johnson tells high school students that food, shelter, and health care aren't rights.

https://www.facebook.com/wisn12/videos/10159493605030284/

I can't imagine what Tillerson must be thinking, probably hoping for a Trump stroke like many of us.

Is anyone in the white house advising Trump to pursue this "Madman diplomacy" route or is he actually acting unilaterally? What the fuck is going on?

Is anyone in the white house advising Trump to pursue this " Madman diplomacy" route or is he actually acting unilaterally?

I'm trying to keep count and I believe he's doing 12D chess by now.

If McMaster or Kelley or someone sternly told him to knock it off before he got us all killed, would he just fired them? Has anyone tried something like this or are they all just cowed by his vindictiveness?

I doubt they're particularly cowed by him but i also doubt they can control him, "they can only hope to contain him."

And as history has proven again and again, containment always wins out in the end!

I have to say, the crossed arms and disappointed facial expressions are not impressive.

Being nice to Rocket Man hasn't worked in 25 years, why would it work now? Clinton failed, Bush failed, and Obama failed. I won't fail.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 1, 2017

Kim Jong Un is 33 years old

IT came up a couple of months back that trump was probably confusing 3 generations of NK leadership, didn't it?

oh my fucking god

Well, Castro and Noriega and Qaddafi and Saddam were there for basically ever, tbf. Also Mao and Stalin. So it's an understandable confusion.

I won't fail.

To quote a favorite trumpism, we'll see.

please, please die soon

I doubt he will give us that favour. Someone has to push him...

lol remember when the vmas introduced post-9/11 giuliani with this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU1stt0okdM

Where has that goof been for the last few months, anyway. (Not that I want him to flap his lips even more.)

he's been dead almost fourteen years, I'm told

https://www.axios.com/inside-trumps-crazy-train-2491643924.html

🤔

The Democrats should maybe take a harder stance against Trump's push toward nuclear war. Is there any reasonable excuse why absolutely all of them aren't publicly pro-impeachment now?

An excellent Twitter thread.

1/ If you pause for a moment and consider Trump’s self-inflicted wounds, the incompetence is truly stunning. There’s no 3D chess.

— Isaac Saul (@Ike_Saul) September 27, 2017

all the Kims look alike to Yam since he looked at the eclipse

Look Out Kim Deal!

Snopes and State Dept say Marketwatch story I posted last week about evacuee reimbursement in PR is false:

http://www.snopes.com/is-the-trump-administration-puerto-rico-evacuees/

Don't worry! Ron Johnson tells high school students that food, shelter, and health care aren't rights.

I grudgingly like it about that guy that, unlike most of his co-partisans, he sometimes just drops the veil and tells people what his actual vision for the country is.

food may not be a right and shelter may not be either, but gun ownership is a sacred right iirc.

Which, of course, people should use to keep the government from coming in and taking these other things they don't actually have.

My warmest condolences and sympathies to the victims and families of the terrible Las Vegas shooting. God bless you!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 2, 2017

The presidential version of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ in case of tragedy. Suprised he didn't end it with 'Sad!'

Reads like a particularly insincere condolence card, a poor response even by his own abysmal standards

... warmest?

That had me poking an eye out, too.

That is a truly bizarre statement. Condolences and sympathies aren't warm, they're deep.

xp

I wonder how hard it is for him to not refer to the victims of tragedies as 'losers'.

don't give him any ideas

The Democrats should maybe take a harder stance against Trump's push toward nuclear war. Is there any reasonable excuse why absolutely all of them aren't publicly pro-impeachment now?

― Nerdstrom Poindexter

does it matter if they're pro-impeachment or not? the republicans aren't going to favor his removal from office, ever. elections aren't for another year. don't they do enough empty gum-flapping as it is?

Must be smart with these old white gunmen.

"Warmest condolences" is such a weird phrase. I googled it, taking away search results from this week, and the phrase mostly just appears in articles about how to write condolence cards. I haven't seen an example of it used in situ.

https://healingtheheartpetloss.com/pages/tips-for-writing-condolence-message
http://metro.co.uk/2017/01/24/what-do-you-say-when-someone-dies-sympathy-messages-to-say-or-write-6400772/

I'm already in a FB fight with my stupid old white woman aunt over this morning's awful news. (This is a person who has spent months condemning the removal of Confederate statues and NFL protests, but attributes last night's tragedy to "you can't control crazy" and "I LOVE this country and its freedom.") Her first post this morning?

I have been watching the news. But tell me, has the President been blamed on FB yet?

My reply: At least you're thinking of the real victim here, Donald Trump.

there was that tweet about about trump officials all looking like scene stealers from a coen bros movie and clovis is their king afaict

Request for the November thread not to actually have that fuckhead’s name in it

i assume you mean clovis not trump
too many fuckheads to count here

“Too many fuckheads to count” it is.

an internet wag just called papa trump's covfefe boy
there is no god

hard agree on no trump in the Nov thread title

I'm okay with that, we completed Trump Year One which I think began with the morning-after thread? anyway it qualifies for symmetry.

What about “Jive Turkeys Pardoned by Thankgiving: U.S. Politics - November 2017”

i keep making the same mistake, but Trump Year One doesn't conclude til January 2018

although i guess maybe the shock of his victory should mark the point when things got fucking dismal

Trump Ground Zero.

I remember the sense one year ago of, "well at least I won't have to see any of these fucking faces again once he loses" being replaced by a sense of doom and depression and "we are the dumbest and worst country on the planet."

I’m going to take half of Chloe’s candy tonight & give it to some kid who sat at home. It’s never to early to teach her about socialism. pic.twitter.com/3ie9C0jv2G

— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) October 31, 2017

did it occur to him that the "kid who sat at home" maybe was unable to participate due to illness or some other debilitating condition?

Yes. I hate these people.

Irving Kristol's son weighs in

Why not give half a thought to the less fortunate? It’s never too late for adults to learn not to be smug about being born on third base. https://t.co/Gex9ae9APH

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) October 31, 2017

it's never to early

someone on twitternets retorted 'then you're teaching the kid who got the other half a lesson about inherited wealth'

The Romanovs might have been harshly treated but, come the revolution, the Trumps will deserve everything they get.

re: thread title, no Txxxp is fine but please make it searchable by using "US Politics Nov 2017" or some such

not sure on what secret service status is for the kids of ex-presidents but if i ever see this guy irl i'm going to roll the dice and literally piss in his face

second thought regarding trump, jr.'s tweet. it's not strange that he can't figure out that when his daughter opens a shopping bag, holds it out and asks people to put candy in it, she is getting an unearned gift, not engaging in productive work.

Catching up after being away...

Ned:

the legal firm of Breenpugh, which sounds vaguely obscene

I moved on her like a bitch and grabbed her by the breenpugh

lagoon:

the thing u have to understand is that the campaign was primarily staffed by bad hombres

Well, what can you do? Real Americans won't take these dirty, dangerous jobs.

But slightly more seriously Treeship:

i'm not seeing how we go from this indictment to anything that could lead to Trump being impeached

Well, I dunno - I don't think that's Mueller's goal (and is above his pay grade anyway). Damage, yes; impeachment, no. In my view.

My fantasy-world hope is that Mueller knows Trump is currently ascendant, but also that he won't be always. Mueller (like a lot of DC doodz) wants to be seen as having been on the right side of history in future.

It is therefore good positioning to come out with indictments of a trickle of minor players. Doesn't seriously harm the king slug, but provides a sense of embattlement and of sleaze; of something that could unravel if you pulled the right thread.

Even if nothing impeachment-friendly materializes, anyone associated with the effort has the right kind of cred (I worked to take down the Orange Menace).

I'm opposed to dropping his name from the thread title while it's still Year One

It's kind of impossible to believe it's been almost a year since the night I experienced more horrified dread than I thought imaginable (and I've had some godawful experiences, but that was some real 'the bottom has dropped out and everything you know is a lie and your favorite food will forevermore taste like farts'-level dread). I guess I feel sorta hopeful that we're not all just ashes at this point. Which is not to say I don't thoroughly expect to have that experience, just that it's kind of a cool gift that we got more time to take in a little more life before it becomes just a theoretical concept.

I scheduled Wednesday-Friday off work for that week because I wanted to recuperate after such a long and awful campaign cycle and contemplate the next four years of slow but steady progress.

I ended up spending most of those three days in bed, sleeping when I could, avoiding all news coverage, and basically thinking the nation would totally collapse before 2020. Still might happen, but I've been collecting records again as a joyful diversion tactic (I've bought 700 records in the last 12 months).

it definitely felt worse knowing that there were so many people reveling in others' misery, especially given the outcome essentially sealed the fate of fact-based argument for good. was pretty much anticipating every argument with a Trump supporter to contain some form of "where'd you get that, the same news sources that said Hillary had a 99.999999% chance to win?", and so far I was absolutely right.

I remember the next day at work being fairly somber. Most people wouldn't talk about their political affiliations (especially not during this cycle) but on that day you could tell. so many people looked like they hadn't slept all night. even the people who I knew voted for him didn't look happy - there was this visible guilt on their faces which I'm totally not imagining. a lot of, "well, I didn't expect him to actually WIN!". most confusing were a few people who were like, "yeah, I found out this morning"...like, how could you not stay up for this??

that said, the longer this goes, the more it looks like we're heading into a situation where practically everyone in the country wishes that Hillary had won instead. so, that's nice.

because I’ve spotted enough election night heartbreaks in the past to know when it’s a good time to have a couple drinks and go to bed early?

seriously, I think I was asleep by 10:30pm central time for the election night

Oh, you should've tried that other thing where your heart throws itself against your ribcage like a frenzied beast and you lie in bed probably having only having a severe panic attack but mostly certain you're going to go into cardiac arrest and expire before the sun rises, it was a real treat.

It was a bad night for sure. Where I feared a multitude of evil this first year, most of the evil plans are halted or grinding down. This is good. Bad is being bludgeoned to death every single day with the shiny, proud and loud stupidity of Trump and his goons. The profound dumbness of it all might even be worse than the evil. There's a chimp in the white house, what will he do today etc.

Yeah, I kind of assumed Trump would be an ineffectual dipshit as president. I was and remain more concerned about the attendant effects of his being president. How many people were comfortable vocally defending Nazis this time last year compared to today? How many public schools are going to be left standing in four years? How many antisocial boundaries are people going to push against until they break because they keep seeing the POTUS getting away with it? There's plenty to be optimistic about, for sure, but this ride is still pretty far from over.

oh fer fuck's sake

not using his name = typical lib empty move

he's also actually ensuring many deaths by executive order re the environment, so there is a limit to his incompetence

U lot have ten minutes to construct a new thread title or I'm doing it

the MAGAs and the Papas

god forbid we should suffer a lack of seeing donald fucking trump's name dominate every space of every minute of our lives

'US Politics November 2017: Papa's gonna buy you a mockingbird' imo

Trump, Trumptember Trumpy017: TRUMP TRUUUUMMMPPP

there you go

Let's sort this before Old Lunch wakes up or it will actually be that

You rang?

noooooo

It's getting hard for me to keep coming up with new material, but he's eating a burrito now, so I guess the Muse will soon visit.

— Donald Trump's Butt (@DonaldTrumpButt) April 29, 2011

I’m with GPTH

US Politics November 2017

"Trumpy. You can do magic."

"It's called 'evil', kid."

Only an ILE moderator can change the course of history now

i double-checked and the "year one" thread was November 2016. we've done our duty. think it makes sense to either close this grim naming tradition now, or ride it all the way to january 2021.

Trump Year One: The Threads