Bond #25: NO TIME TO DIE

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Because something will happen. But here's the story of the day:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/apple-amazon-join-race-james-bond-film-rights-1035539

The James Bond sweepstakes has taken an unexpected turn. While Warner Bros. remains in the lead to land film distribution rights to the megafranchise — whose deal with Sony expired after 2015’s Spectre — a couple of unlikely suitors have emerged that also are in hot pursuit: Apple and Amazon.

The tech giants are willing to spend in the same ballpark as Warners, if not much more, for the rights, sources tell The Hollywood Reporter. MGM has been looking for a deal for more than two years, and Sony, Universal and Fox also had been pursuing the property, with Warners and Sony the most aggressive.

But the emergence of Apple — which is considered such a viable competitor that Warners is now pressing MGM hard to close a deal — and Amazon shows that the digital giants consider Bond one of the last untapped brands (like a Marvel, Pixar or Lucasfilm) that could act as a game-changer in the content space. Apple’s and Amazon’s inclusion in the chase would indicate that more is on the table than film rights, including the future of the franchise if MGM will sell or license out for the right price.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 18:25 (two years ago) link

a game-changer in the content space

hhnnnnnnggggghhhhhhhh

Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 18:27 (two years ago) link

"Revaluated and IP-exploited, not stirred."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 18:28 (two years ago) link

psyched for the bond/transparent crossover possibilities if amazon gets the rights tho

Wesley Shackleton explained "look at that beast." (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 18:30 (two years ago) link

Everything is friggin' content and franchising now lol

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 21:41 (two years ago) link

A period take on Moonraker (the book) would be great, I think. I'd watch it anyway.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 22:47 (two years ago) link

All I want to know is what does this mean for my James Bond theme park

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 22:54 (two years ago) link

A period take on Moonraker (the book) would be great, I think. I'd watch it anyway.

Yeah I've long thought this. A 50s Bond TV series directly adapting the books, and basically portraying Bond as the monster he is. Anyway the book Moonraker has my favorite Fleming sequence, the extended club/dining/gambling bit near the front.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:04 (two years ago) link

gonna be a movie where Bond is mind-controlled using some kind of serum and does things like shoot Wimpy's employees and blow up politician's vehicles and then he manages to break free of the spell and realizes all the people he's killed and vows revenge against the mastermind, Spanish Flye

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:12 (two years ago) link

Xpost - Yes, amazing scene, and it's great spending all that time with M. I much prefer their relationship in the books - much less antagonistic and exposition-y.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:29 (two years ago) link

MGM's sole reason to exist is to sell the rights to Bond movies.. they should sell so they can put themselves out of their misery

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:31 (two years ago) link

xpost -- It's a great portrayal of a quietly nervous mindset about the future, on top of it being an entertainment.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:32 (two years ago) link

True! I only started reading the Bond books a couple years ago, and was very pleasantly surprised by how beautifully written and thoughtful they are (while still being totally weird, fun and lurid). .

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:42 (two years ago) link

i have been thinking about giving the books a go myself

maybe this year is my year...

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:45 (two years ago) link

MGM's sole reason to exist is to sell the rights to Bond movies.. they should sell so they can put themselves out of their misery

Steven Bach reckoned in Final Cut that owning Bond (and getting a distribution arm they ultimately couldn't use for a few years) was why MGM pounced on United Artists after Heaven's Gate crashed the company.

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:49 (two years ago) link

Xpost - They're really good! I'd try Casino Royale or Moonraker to start. Avoid Goldfinger - it's the only one where the movie is better. And has too much golf.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:52 (two years ago) link

noted :)

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 September 2017 23:54 (two years ago) link

Might as well start with Casino, yeah -- kick it off with the whole shebang. Live and Let Die is *really* fucked up, I'd almost say skip it -- when the racism is just one of the problems with it, well, there you go. (Similarly, Dr No is extremely hard going.) But Moonraker continues things from there well enough.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 September 2017 04:03 (two years ago) link

imo the man with the golden gun is more racist than live and let die, which is buoyed considerably by its blaxploitation vibe and in which the racist white sheriff is a long punchline. said racist white sheriff becomes a goofy but lovable racist sidekick in golden gun

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 04:09 (two years ago) link

oh fuck you're talking about the books, sorry lol

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 04:11 (two years ago) link

the books are super fucked up

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 7 September 2017 04:11 (two years ago) link

Yeah I was about to say, let's not confuse our mediums here.

I will say that whenever people complained about how they changed things from the books, not only was it in many cases for the better, but in one case -- The Spy Who Loved Me -- Fleming explicitly laid down a condition that if an adaptation was made the only thing that could be used was the title, nothing else. So they just remade You Only Live Twice and made Moore's best 70s Bond film as a result.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 September 2017 04:29 (two years ago) link

why the condition for just the one book?

Neanderthal, Thursday, 7 September 2017 04:33 (two years ago) link

Due to its poor critical reception at the time -- also it's a very atypical book in all compared to the rest: first person narration, the 'me' being a woman who Bond eventually rescues. He doesn't show up until more than half way through it, IIRC!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 September 2017 04:52 (two years ago) link

It's a fun book if you're interested in a peak at Fleming's weird ideas, and well-written as usual. But yeah, very skippable. The movie's fun - maybe the only 100% successful Moore movie - but I don't consider it an "improvement" as it's effectively a different story with the same title. Goldfinger, otoh, seems to have been written by someone who understood exactly what was wrong with the book and how to fix it.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:34 (two years ago) link

(peek, sorry)

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 7 September 2017 07:34 (two years ago) link

Goldfinger screenplay co-written by an interesting writer and critic called Paul Dehn, who also wrote the screenplay for the The Spy Who Came in From the Cold and a number of the Planet of the Apes movies(as well as the lyrics to the faux folk song 'O Willow Waly' that features in the film The Innocents). Dehn's long-term partner was James Bernard, who wrote the music for most of the classic Hammer horrors.

Gulley Jimson (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 7 September 2017 08:33 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Ugh.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:14 (one year ago) link

Cilliam Murphy is....

Bond

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 March 2018 02:31 (one year ago) link

I'm gonna call it and say Danny Boyle will make a Bond movie that'll be better than the last three.

omar little, Friday, 16 March 2018 02:32 (one year ago) link

yeah i am willing to roll the dice with Boyle.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 16 March 2018 02:50 (one year ago) link

Boyle I think is good with dynamic action, the problem with Mendes was while he made everything look like a painting, his compositions I thought were a bit too "big" if that makes sense and for all the movement within the frames everything seemed very inert in a lot of ways bc he went oversized. I can't put my finger on it precisely idk. He wanted to do elegant vv pretty action and it was just DOA. He was trying to achieve the same end result as Bird and McQuarrie did with MI 4 and 5 and it just didn't work. Boyle I trust to actually achieve something a bit more in keeping with what Martin Campbell did in Casino Royale.

omar little, Friday, 16 March 2018 03:04 (one year ago) link

I agree with what you said about Mendes, but obviously John Logan was a major problem as well. The villains in the last two Bonds were shite, the plots messy, tonally they were all over the place, a mix of the blunt killer Bond of CR and QOS with silly Q-teasing Bond, featuring the old Bond cars and the old Bond cliches and the old Moneypenny (sort of).

Logan's gone, thankfully. Not sure if Purvis & Wade are working with Boyle and Hodge or if we get the first Bond since Tomorrow Never Dies not co-written by the pair.

abcfsk, Friday, 16 March 2018 08:57 (one year ago) link

Yeah definitely can't take away from John Logan's influence, I think there's a balance the best Bonds achieve between serious business and casual humor that the last couple especially failed at. They were trying to be very impressive and they were also the most glaring examples of a perfectly decent franchise trying to Dark Knight things up a bit. Okay the Cumberbatch Star Trek was probably worse actually.

omar little, Friday, 16 March 2018 16:40 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Well, well

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-danny-boyle-exits-1202911993/

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 18:10 (one year ago) link

Time to stop making auteur wishlists for the Bond director gig.. The Broccolis will always want to ghost direct!

abcfsk, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:38 (one year ago) link

there goes their shot at making this at least quasi interesting

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:39 (one year ago) link

Thought the revive would be about the rumours that Idris Elba is lined up to play Bond.

the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:57 (one year ago) link

More interesting than the director is whether the script goes ahead without Purvis & Wade as planned

abcfsk, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 19:58 (one year ago) link

God, please

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 20:12 (one year ago) link

Danny Boyle would've made a fun Bond sure but I do still look forward to Ken Loach's take on the iconic spy

— Italian Alex Pareene (@pareene) August 22, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 18:58 (one year ago) link

Loach, Gareth Evans or Joanna Hogg, all fine by me

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:03 (one year ago) link

i know this never will happen and never would've happened but i would've liked to see a soderbergh bond

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:05 (one year ago) link

Don't know if Craig has any sway but as they worked on Logan Lucky together I wouldn't rule it out.

FWIW would love to see what Paul Verhoeven would do with it.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:13 (one year ago) link

james gunn’s available iirc

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:18 (one year ago) link

Albert Brooks

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:21 (one year ago) link

Brad Bird

omar little, Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:26 (one year ago) link

i was gonna say it's a little redundant but basically any m:i director not named jj abrams would've prob made a good bond film

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:35 (one year ago) link

Verhoeven doing a PG-13 action film would be a waste.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 19:42 (one year ago) link

imo you will not be disappointed!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:44 (one month ago) link

Connery's Bond in NSNA may have been older but he didn't look tired like Craig's Bond looks in this trailer.

It's been a while since I've seen NSNA but IIRC the entire plot is "lol, look how old and fat Bond is now, watch him get winded walking up stairs"

brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:48 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqqYoLRTgI8
It's revealed immediately afterwards to have been a training exercise, and M chews out Bond for being out of shape, but really?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecu77iLGLBs

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 21:59 (one month ago) link

After the initial bit at Shrublands, Bond's supposed lack of fitness is never mentioned again, and he spends the rest of the movie kicking ass as good as he did in From Russia With Love.

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:01 (one month ago) link

all the grace and vigor of Ernest Borgnine in The Wild Bunch

omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:03 (one month ago) link

yeah it's in the upper tiers of bond movies imo. the "lol vegetable shake???" stuff (to which Spectre, bafflingly, paid homage) is the weakest part of it. obv not the best connery bond but not the worst either.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:04 (one month ago) link

NSNA is a solid flick though, when i was a kid i had zero idea about the chronology of where it fell in terms of Bond movies let alone the particulars of the rights issues but it's not like Connery or any of the Bonds were ever *not* a bit worn.

omar little, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:06 (one month ago) link

connery is more engaged in nsna than he is in diamonds are forever

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:08 (one month ago) link

I'm in danger of drifting off the thread topic, but I like how the villain Largo's motive in NSNA is that he's a bored billionaire who thinks it'll be a big laugh. Almost like Elon Musk.

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:09 (one month ago) link

back on topic: the logo for Bond #25 looks like a 70s action movie, possibly starring Charles Bronson or George Peppard.

just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:10 (one month ago) link

i don’t like NSNA? - maybe bc I didnt see it until much later in life

idk

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:33 (one month ago) link

xpost yes! i like it too for tbat reason

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:34 (one month ago) link

also excited that we may get GUNFIGHTING IN THE SNOW - my fave

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 22:34 (one month ago) link

tbf Craig is now the second-oldest Broccoli Bond, and only two years younger than Never Say Never Again Connery

poss could have phrased this less distractingly by saying “ten years older than Connery was when he quit for the second time

insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 5 December 2019 00:47 (one month ago) link

imo you will not be disappointed

ha ha yes

hopefully now that he is free of Bond he can start cracking out a Benoit Blanc mystery every three years

if Rian Johnson has to quit his trilogy of Star Warses to meet this pace, oh well

insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 5 December 2019 18:06 (one month ago) link

Amazing there will have been 3 Star Wars films and 2 spin offs since the last Bond.

piscesx, Friday, 6 December 2019 14:35 (one month ago) link

that's one word for it, aye

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 6 December 2019 14:35 (one month ago) link

all the grace and vigor of Ernest Borgnine in The Wild Bunch

― omar little, Wednesday, December 4, 2019 5:03 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is such a Morbsian comment I had to check it twice!

regarding the trailer: stop ruining movies, andrew lloyd webber

wasdnuos (abanana), Sunday, 8 December 2019 00:23 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

hoping that craig dies at the end and lashana lynch is the new 007 tbh

^^^ her character is the only reason I might even bother seeing this movie.

― just another country (snoball), Wednesday, 4 December 2019 19:02 (one month ago)

I'm going to go further than this and say that I hope Craig's Bond dies in the gun barrel sequence. Like Bond fumbles getting his gun out and gets shot by person whose POV we've been seeing all these years. Then the pre-titles scene is Ralph Fiennes' M walking into a conference room like Alan Sugar on The Apprentice. He sits down, points at an unseen figure across the table, and says "I want you to be my business partner the next 007!". And then the camera cuts to another angle and it's revealed to be Lashana Lynch's character. BOOM! roll Maurice Binder inspired title sequence.

just another country (snoball), Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:13 (three weeks ago) link

Bond #25? No, time to die!

JoeStork, Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:17 (three weeks ago) link

This song reminds me of this spiritual i sang in choir called "Ain't Got Time to Die"

papa stank (Neanderthal), Saturday, 4 January 2020 18:55 (three weeks ago) link

Hm!

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-51112742

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:43 (one week ago) link

I'm going to go further than this and say that I hope Craig's Bond dies in the gun barrel sequence.

So... everything we've seen in the trailer would be part of the pre-credit sequence?

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:45 (one week ago) link

wait I just read Ned's link, what

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:46 (one week ago) link

I'm just going to assume, given that it's Billie Eilish, that entire song is about being too busy to kill yourself

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:48 (one week ago) link

I was kinda hoping for Michael Kiwanuka tbh

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:03 (one week ago) link

opening credits is just Rami Malek dancing to Bad Guy in a bunch of locations as Daniel Craig chases after him in the background

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:14 (one week ago) link

Best Bond yet.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:15 (one week ago) link

I don't have time to die
And that's ok
And here's why

papa stank (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:21 (one week ago) link

Should be noted that the actual score itself is by...

pic.twitter.com/6QseVK3iUL

— Hans Zimmer (@HansZimmer) January 14, 2020

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:25 (one week ago) link

thrilled that no sam mendes always means no thomas newman

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:34 (one week ago) link

Yeah Thomas Newman was a complete misfit

abcfsk, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 17:58 (one week ago) link

I was thinking through the last couple and it's dawned on me that the intense, brooding gravity given to family and legacy that Mendes seemed to revel in suffocated any hint of the playfulness that peeked through. The parodic goofiness of many of the Moore and latter era Connery films has been something the franchise has recoiled from, but it was an over-correction.

There's hardly anyone in Mendes's Bond movies who isn't a spy, master criminal, or family member of the above. Civilians appear fleetingly in crowd shots, if at all.

Fingers crossed that Fukunaga does better

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:31 (one week ago) link

Hopefully. Unfortunately Waltz' shitty Blofeld's still in it, as apparent in the trailer.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:43 (one week ago) link

I thought that character had potential, in that they kept hinting at him being not only ominous but truly weird, but the weird part of his torture chair hijinks ("I'm going to selectively destroy parts of Bond's brain!") fell short and it just seemed like normal villain torture, they gave the cat no real acknowledgment, and the entire "I believe we're meant to be impressed" thing about the museum room with the meteor fragment fell flat. Mendes seemed to get that the villains should be eccentric but was too *serious* to lean into it to the point of being dismissive.

Let Blofeld get mocked for being a weirdo obsessed with his daddy loving Bond more. Is the cat his best friend? Does he sit around admiring his rock in a room? He's out there killing entire classes of people through Spectre -- give him some shit for doing all that only to sit alone with a cat in the middle of the desert!

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:49 (one week ago) link

Dunno - I miss Telly Savalas

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 10:41 (one week ago) link

i saw the torture bit of spectre while channel-hopping over the holidays and it's still weird and hilarious to me that blofeld threatens to use a drill to destroy the part of bond's brain that recognises faces, then fuckin' does it, and it's never entirely clear whether bond spends the rest of the movie suffering complete face blindness or not

que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 10:44 (one week ago) link

at a minimum the rest of spectre takes place in bond's dreams during his post-op coma -- ideally he has not yet woken up for the entirety of the upcoming film and it ends with his death without ever waking up and everyone else too

mark s, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 11:55 (one week ago) link

There should have been a post-credits scene where Bond wakes up and he's actually Archer reviving from his coma

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 14:05 (one week ago) link

xp James' Ladder

may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:09 (one week ago) link

Actually, now that I think about it, that would be a cool concept for a film, the dying dream of a super-spy

may the force leave us alone (zchyrs), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:10 (one week ago) link

at long last the bond franchise is good thanks to me its arch-h8ter

mark s, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:13 (one week ago) link

Actually, now that I think about it, that would be a cool concept for a film, the dying dream of a super-spy

― may the force leave us alone (zchyrs),

An adaptation of Joe Haldeman's All My Sins Remembered would fit that bill iirc. (It's a shame that Haldeman's work hasn't been adapted widely.)

Miami weisse (WmC), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 16:55 (one week ago) link

There were a couple of excellent episodes of The Leftovers which had that kind of vibe.

Saw the new trailer at IMAX ahead of 1917 last night and it got me more stoked than I would have anticipated for this film. It came straight after one for the woeful looking Birds of Prey, mind you.

chap, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 17:09 (one week ago) link

Birds of Prey looks dope, too

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 19:58 (one week ago) link

hoping some of the smart decisions around this (craig bringing in pwb, billie eilish being tapped for the theme) really reflect the quality of the movie

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 20:11 (one week ago) link

Actually, now that I think about it, that would be a cool concept for a film, the dying dream of a super-spy

Change "super-spy" to "unstoppable criminal force of nature" and you've got Point Blank, the film that introduced the cockpunch to Hollywood.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 20:19 (one week ago) link

After seeing the Daniel Craig/Ana de Armas duo in Knives Out, I'm really hoping them give them some good dialogue!

babu frik fan account (mh), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 21:03 (one week ago) link


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