THE IRISHMAN, A Martin Scorsese Picture with de Niro, Pacino, Pesci, Keitel

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A 40-year gangster epic going into production in the next month. Pacino plays Jimmy Hoffa, Bobby Cannavale is Joey gallo, Ray Romano a Teamster lawyer. Produced and distributed by Netflix.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1302006/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sheeran

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:28 (two years ago) link

finally, the scorsese/romano team-up we've been clamouring for all these years

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:33 (two years ago) link

Who is playing the irishman

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:40 (two years ago) link

noted irishman robert o'niro iirc

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:41 (two years ago) link

Cannavale a good choice

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:43 (two years ago) link

I'm not sure thats working for me

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:44 (two years ago) link

maybe look at dirty grandpa and educate yourself a bit before you continue embarrassing yourself online like this

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:46 (two years ago) link

lol

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:47 (two years ago) link

I hope Netflix finds away to block everyone who skipped SILENCE from watching this.

Chris L, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:51 (two years ago) link

*a way, ugh

Chris L, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:51 (two years ago) link

noted irishman robert o'niro iirc

lmao

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:53 (two years ago) link

robert the neary

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:53 (two years ago) link

de Niro is part Irish on his dad's side

who cares, but ilx's proud ignorance sure covers the waterfront

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:55 (two years ago) link

aye but the real sheehan was part swedish, where's our fuckin' irish swede in the lead role

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:58 (two years ago) link

Also, De Niro's character in Goodfellas was Irish, too.

cultural appropriation imo, #boycotttheirishman

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 15:59 (two years ago) link

Is this the one where the main gag is deniro playing a 10yo or whatever

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:01 (two years ago) link

not goin that young, but some CG a la Benjamin Button to reverse the aging early, it seems.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:03 (two years ago) link

Look morbs far be it from me but the movie is called the fuckin irishman mon ta fuck like

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:07 (two years ago) link

script by Steve Zaillian, who i guess is newly hot from "The Night Of"

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:10 (two years ago) link

tbf i think the titular irishman here is irish in that uniquely american sense of 'had an ancestor who once grew a potato'

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:19 (two years ago) link

notallpaddies

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:22 (two years ago) link

Robert Anthony De Niro[4] was born on August 17, 1943, in the Greenwich Village area of Manhattan, New York, the son of painters Virginia Admiral and Robert De Niro Sr.[5] He is of Irish and Italian descent on his father's side,[6] while his mother had Dutch, English, French, and German ancestry.[7]

nomar, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:23 (two years ago) link

All due respect it's not called the Italian Irish Dutch English French German man now is it

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:25 (two years ago) link

^^^would watch

mark s, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:26 (two years ago) link

that'll be on the next Fall album

imago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:28 (two years ago) link

It's the role he was born several times to play

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:28 (two years ago) link

to be fair robert deniro is generally cast as italian american characters despite the fact that he's only a quarter italian so him playing an irishman is not a huge stretch

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:34 (two years ago) link

let's all just agree that ardal o'hanlon should be cast in the lead and move on with our lives

for sale: clown shoes, never worn (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:35 (two years ago) link

always suspected Scorcese had one more gangster film in him, one about the top-level guys that *really* run shit from the back of a grocery store in Casino - it would complete the tetralogy, going up the ladder from small-time hoods in Mean Streets to the "soldiers" in Goodfellas up through the higher-ranking mafioso in "Casino".

this could still totally suck of course, idk. skeptical about the CGI aging aspect.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:39 (two years ago) link

would also say that sylvester stallone's jimmy hoffa movie "f.i.s.t." is the last word in union/mob epics

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:39 (two years ago) link

Scorsese keeps a-goin' til everyone spells his name right

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:41 (two years ago) link

lol sory

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:43 (two years ago) link

script by Steve Zaillian, who i guess is newly hot from "The Night Of"

You mean hot again? Certainly Scorsese has been hot for him for years.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:44 (two years ago) link

the night of was good ...

for me to poop on

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:45 (two years ago) link

I think Zaillian only adapted Gangs of New York for MS?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:48 (two years ago) link

Yeah, you're right.

Would love to see a Marty comedy about disorganized crime. Bits of The Departed are the funniest shit ever, as are bits of GoodFellas, but he hasn't done a comedy since After Hours, right?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:49 (two years ago) link

i suppose some people describe that abominable last one w/ DiCaprio as a comedy, as a plea.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:51 (two years ago) link

it's definitely funny

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:51 (two years ago) link

(also godawful)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:52 (two years ago) link

Bits of The Departed are the funniest shit ever

"I'm the guy who does his fucking job, you must be the other guy" vs. the rat symbolizes obviousness

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:52 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dFYHNCpy4

Wolf ... Oh yeah, I guess that was funny (though classically speaking, more a tragedy than a comedy).

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:53 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTaVxTmB5k4

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:55 (two years ago) link

haven't seen his cable Public Speaking w/ Fran Lebowitz

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:55 (two years ago) link

WoWS was non-stop lolz for me

but I thought Morbz was referring to Shutter Island hahah

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:55 (two years ago) link

WOWS completely a comedy

jk rowling obituary thread (darraghmac), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:55 (two years ago) link

GoodFellas *is* a comedy, really.

When they found Sepe in the meat
truck, he was frozen so stiff it
took them two days to thaw him out
for the autopsy.
(pause)
Still, I never saw Jimmy so happy.
He was like a kid.

nomar, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:56 (two years ago) link

Hugo had a pretty heavy comedic streak... does anyone remember it winning 5 Oscars?

WoWS died when McConnahey left

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 16:57 (two years ago) link

What movies play in movie theaters is literally a zero sum game

― flappy bird, Friday, October 4, 2019

i've already said my piece on this elsewhere but if you think Marvel pix are squeezing out "cinema" you haven't been to the movies since idk 1975.

smdh that anyone has time to complain about marvel anything when roland emmerich's still around

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 18:13 (two weeks ago) link

Never mentioned art house cinema. I'm talking about stuff like this: https://www.flavorwire.com/492985/how-the-death-of-mid-budget-cinema-left-a-generation-of-iconic-filmmakers-mia

― flappy bird, Friday, October 4, 2019

kudos to the author in the sense that citing toback as a credible source (in the #metoo era, even!) and Exhibit A of what we've lost is kinda, uh, man maybe this MCU stuff isn't so bad after all.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 18:19 (two weeks ago) link

The article is from 2014

flappy bird, Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:15 (two weeks ago) link

what do you mean ‘exhibit A?’ the John Waters movie?

flappy bird, Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:17 (two weeks ago) link

nah toback’s distinguished list of credits

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:42 (two weeks ago) link

and?

flappy bird, Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:52 (two weeks ago) link

idk you asked

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 22:41 (two weeks ago) link

like without getting into a big handwringing qu’est-ce que le cinéma discussion the notion that Marvel Studios has somehow appropriated multiplex screens that were otherwise destined to uplift us with quality pictures is risible.

quel dommage the Two Girls and a Guyses of tomorrow will have to find an audience on Amazon Prime Video or Netflix Originals. And they will, bc as the article rightly notes they don’t require absurd budgets, and they don’t need big screens to tell their story.

What does get squeezed out is previous-gen tentpole fare, but I guess I’m okay living in a world without Wilder Hogs or Armageddon 3 or The Day After The Day After Tomorrow.

It may not be cinema - I mean, Scorsese has a point! - but it’s a step up from the alternative, and if you don’t believe that try sitting through Justice League. If you want cinema, there’s always Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse 😂

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 22:57 (two weeks ago) link

I don't agree, I miss an abundance of studio comedies and disaster movies and secret agents and book adaptations and more VARIETY... that's really what bothers me about Marvel and Disney's year round occupation of multiplexes, the alarming lack of variety. I go to the movies two, three times a week at least. I'm more invested in what plays than most because I go all the time. it's not like they flushed out all crap: stuff like Flight, Nocturnal Animals, Side Effects, even First Man and Ad Astra can't compete with these behemoths. it is a victory of market efficiency and the movie industry finally finding security in not only IPs but entire universes that can guarantee hits for decades. Maybe the bubble will burst just as did with disaster movies, zombies, and Bucket List ripoffs. I really don't think less of or judge fans of these movies, I reject snobbery and elitism. I do mourn the loss of variety in multiplexes because every movie benefits from seeing on a big screen in a room full of people. but that's just been my experience as a lifelong moviegoer.

flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:10 (two weeks ago) link

totally agree every movie benefits from the movie palace treatment... but man has the transition to streaming shown how few movies deserve it.

still feel like the case against marvel is overblown - like in a sense their greatest crime is that at a time when it seemed like we’d seen the last shitty x-men movie (and to be clear even the “good” ones are turgid and ugly) Kevin Feige and John Favreau and RDJ came along and said “hey wait, I think it’s possible to make cape operas that lots of people will actually enjoy...” but even so there are only like 3 marvel movies a year and 52 weekends.

that said, fuck pretending to care about any Star Wars movie released after 1983

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:17 (two weeks ago) link

yeah I don't blame them, like I said the Marvel movies are generally well regarded and well received by fans. there are 3 Marvel movies a year that all play for at least 2 months, which is reasonable... but then you've got Disney. they are the real enemy because not only do they have year round remakes, they have yearly Star Wars now. so with Marvel and Disney playing in theaters 24/7 it drastically reduces space, and it got a lot worse in the past 2 years. the MCU started in 2008, but things didn't really change until The Force Awakens in 2015. looking back, that was the beginning of this situation.

flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:24 (two weeks ago) link

Scorsese utterly otm and watching MCU stans trying to own him on film history etc has been great entertainment

Simon H., Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:25 (two weeks ago) link

Yea always a treat watching a legend go after low-hanging fruit

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:27 (two weeks ago) link

"Taco Bell isn't real Mexican food"

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:29 (two weeks ago) link

Scorsese utterly otm and watching MCU stans trying to own him on film history etc has been great entertainment


seems crazy that anyone would even try. I mean I guess I could see žižek going for it but uh...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:31 (two weeks ago) link

I thought it was pretty funny how many people were tweeting that Scorsese "only makes movies in one genre"

flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:35 (two weeks ago) link

Well that's obv nonsense.

But the average MCU dork probably just knows Goodfellas and Casino

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:35 (two weeks ago) link

I mean didn’t Scorsese say that in a response to a question in an interview? It seemed like a perfectly honest (and on point) assessment. Much less of an Old Man Yelling thing in the way someone like Friedkin soapboxes about it.

circa1916, Sunday, 6 October 2019 01:23 (two weeks ago) link

STOP FEEDING THE MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE FROM THE TABLE FROM THE PLATE ON TOP OF IT.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 October 2019 19:20 (two weeks ago) link

So does Joe Pesci still do the funny voice

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 October 2019 19:25 (two weeks ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_wall_distribution

Adventures in modern four walling.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 09:56 (one week ago) link

Love this idea of the Belasco, if it’s not $100/ticket.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:54 (one week ago) link

...and per Deadline:

Tickets for The Irishman at the Belasco will be priced at $15, on sale next week.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:56 (one week ago) link

I'm whipping through the source book, I Heard You Paint Houses, and it's a barnburner -- I can imagine Marty salivating over it on first read. Either Sheeran was a top-notch mick raconteur (as several of my family members of that generation were) or the author did a helluva job polishing the transcriptions.

It starts with the leadup to the Hoffa disappearance then goe into Sheeran's life chronologically. His WW2 experience (411 combat days, including Anzio and 2 other invasions) is dealt with relatively quickly but brutally -- Sheeran kinda persuasively makes the case that PTSD killed off his morality. I also am reminded of how I learned a number of these gang/labor names reading the papers in grade school...

I doubt they had the CG tech to film the scene where Sheeran gets his ass kicked boxing a kangaroo.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:21 (one week ago) link

I want to see Robert DeNiro boxing a kangaroo

flappy bird, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:41 (one week ago) link

he missed his chance in the late '70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaE8gZUzwNA

(amazing how fast Elliott Gould's career went into the crapper)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:51 (one week ago) link

marty says more things, sounds more like old man yelling at cloud. awaiting his further befuddlement in the face of demands for a thorough explanation of why he, Scorsese, an American cinema director of Italian descent, would cast an American actor of Italian descent in the title role when Liam Neeson was available.

still really looking forward to this.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 22:42 (one week ago) link

Was going to say maybe Neeson was too tall but Sheeran was 6’4”

omar little, Sunday, 13 October 2019 22:53 (one week ago) link

Sheeeran was Philly Irish, not Irish Irish

lol yeah casting scandals about a buncha white guys, v likely

icymi, DeNiro is part Irish

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 October 2019 01:54 (six days ago) link

idk I hold out hope that some day they will find a jewish actor capable of playing Jesus

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 October 2019 03:22 (six days ago) link

A hit, a very palpable hit.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 14 October 2019 03:47 (six days ago) link

De Niro is as Irish as he is Italian iirc

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 14 October 2019 06:22 (six days ago) link

Almost as if we discussed that at the beginning of this thread. Morbs even insulted someone

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 October 2019 06:29 (six days ago) link

The Frank Sheeran book, as Morbs said above, is a great read. I'm racing through it but that's not tough going at all. Excited to see how Scorsese approached this material. In my mind's eye I see Sheeran played by Holt McCallany rather DeNiro but, hey, nobody's complainin' here.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 14 October 2019 10:24 (six days ago) link

*rather than

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 14 October 2019 10:24 (six days ago) link

De Niro is as Irish as he is Italian iirc

Yes, he's American.

Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2019 10:29 (six days ago) link

uh guys this does not need to be re-litigated.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 October 2019 12:11 (six days ago) link

rogermex sees this film as necessary anti-union education

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 October 2019 14:04 (six days ago) link

ffs

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 October 2019 14:41 (six days ago) link

just havin' a little fun, rog

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 October 2019 14:59 (six days ago) link

Lol from now on movie characters must be played by their real life counterparts

plax (ico), Monday, 14 October 2019 15:09 (six days ago) link

anyway the deNiro-Pesci dynamic should be different this time as Pesci is playing Russell Bufalino, ie Sheeran's "godfather." Also, Bufalino described as softspoken!

otoh Sheeran said Hoffa threw a tantrum twice a day to keep his temper in shape, so in Pacino's wheelhouse.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:47 (five days ago) link

Pacino and Pesci screamed their lines on set and they dampened them in post

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:01 (five days ago) link

E Howard Hunt shows up in the book, Nixon AG John Mitchell even moreso. And a 2-page cameo by Joe Biden!

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:59 (two days ago) link

The Brandt book has many respectable skeptics re Sheeran's veracity, but for the movie, who cares?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:55 (two days ago) link

Yes, "who cares?" indeed.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:56 (two days ago) link

sez the JFK fan!

David Ferrie is in the book briefly but apaprently not the film; too bad, Pesci could've done a dual role.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:49 (two days ago) link

AFI Silver has just announced a run starting November 15. Landmark E Street has the film on its Coming Soon page, but no start date.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:25 (yesterday) link


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