THE IRISHMAN, A Martin Scorsese Picture with de Niro, Pacino, Pesci, Keitel

A 40-year gangster epic going into production in the next month. Pacino plays Jimmy Hoffa, Bobby Cannavale is Joey gallo, Ray Romano a Teamster lawyer. Produced and distributed by Netflix.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1302006/fullcredits?ref_=tt_ov_st_sm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Sheeran

finally, the scorsese/romano team-up we've been clamouring for all these years

Who is playing the irishman

noted irishman robert o'niro iirc

Cannavale a good choice

I'm not sure thats working for me

maybe look at dirty grandpa and educate yourself a bit before you continue embarrassing yourself online like this

lol

I hope Netflix finds away to block everyone who skipped SILENCE from watching this.

*a way, ugh

noted irishman robert o'niro iirc

lmao

robert the neary

de Niro is part Irish on his dad's side

who cares, but ilx's proud ignorance sure covers the waterfront

Good take on the Netflix funding:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2017/05/10/hollywood-was-right-to-say-no-to-martin-scorseses-the-irishman/#49ae5b1140c7

aye but the real sheehan was part swedish, where's our fuckin' irish swede in the lead role

Also, De Niro's character in Goodfellas was Irish, too.

cultural appropriation imo, #boycotttheirishman

Is this the one where the main gag is deniro playing a 10yo or whatever

not goin that young, but some CG a la Benjamin Button to reverse the aging early, it seems.

Look morbs far be it from me but the movie is called the fuckin irishman mon ta fuck like

script by Steve Zaillian, who i guess is newly hot from "The Night Of"

tbf i think the titular irishman here is irish in that uniquely american sense of 'had an ancestor who once grew a potato'

notallpaddies

Robert Anthony De Niro[4] was born on August 17, 1943, in the Greenwich Village area of Manhattan, New York, the son of painters Virginia Admiral and Robert De Niro Sr.[5] He is of Irish and Italian descent on his father's side,[6] while his mother had Dutch, English, French, and German ancestry.[7]

it's descent all the way down
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All due respect it's not called the Italian Irish Dutch English French German man now is it

^^^would watch

that'll be on the next Fall album

It's the role he was born several times to play

to be fair robert deniro is generally cast as italian american characters despite the fact that he's only a quarter italian so him playing an irishman is not a huge stretch

let's all just agree that ardal o'hanlon should be cast in the lead and move on with our lives

always suspected Scorcese had one more gangster film in him, one about the top-level guys that *really* run shit from the back of a grocery store in Casino - it would complete the tetralogy, going up the ladder from small-time hoods in Mean Streets to the "soldiers" in Goodfellas up through the higher-ranking mafioso in "Casino".

this could still totally suck of course, idk. skeptical about the CGI aging aspect.

would also say that sylvester stallone's jimmy hoffa movie "f.i.s.t." is the last word in union/mob epics

Scorsese keeps a-goin' til everyone spells his name right

lol sory

script by Steve Zaillian, who i guess is newly hot from "The Night Of"

You mean hot again? Certainly Scorsese has been hot for him for years.

the night of was good ...

for me to poop on

I think Zaillian only adapted Gangs of New York for MS?

Yeah, you're right.

Would love to see a Marty comedy about disorganized crime. Bits of The Departed are the funniest shit ever, as are bits of GoodFellas, but he hasn't done a comedy since After Hours, right?

i suppose some people describe that abominable last one w/ DiCaprio as a comedy, as a plea.

it's definitely funny

(also godawful)

Bits of The Departed are the funniest shit ever

"I'm the guy who does his fucking job, you must be the other guy" vs. the rat symbolizes obviousness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1dFYHNCpy4

Wolf ... Oh yeah, I guess that was funny (though classically speaking, more a tragedy than a comedy).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTaVxTmB5k4

haven't seen his cable Public Speaking w/ Fran Lebowitz

WoWS was non-stop lolz for me

but I thought Morbz was referring to Shutter Island hahah

WOWS completely a comedy

GoodFellas *is* a comedy, really.

When they found Sepe in the meat
truck, he was frozen so stiff it
took them two days to thaw him out
for the autopsy.
(pause)
Still, I never saw Jimmy so happy.
He was like a kid.

Hugo had a pretty heavy comedic streak... does anyone remember it winning 5 Oscars?

WoWS died when McConnahey left

What movies play in movie theaters is literally a zero sum game

― flappy bird, Friday, October 4, 2019

i've already said my piece on this elsewhere but if you think Marvel pix are squeezing out "cinema" you haven't been to the movies since idk 1975.

smdh that anyone has time to complain about marvel anything when roland emmerich's still around

Never mentioned art house cinema. I'm talking about stuff like this: https://www.flavorwire.com/492985/how-the-death-of-mid-budget-cinema-left-a-generation-of-iconic-filmmakers-mia

― flappy bird, Friday, October 4, 2019

kudos to the author in the sense that citing toback as a credible source (in the #metoo era, even!) and Exhibit A of what we've lost is kinda, uh, man maybe this MCU stuff isn't so bad after all.

The article is from 2014

what do you mean ‘exhibit A?’ the John Waters movie?

nah toback’s distinguished list of credits

and?

idk you asked

like without getting into a big handwringing qu’est-ce que le cinéma discussion the notion that Marvel Studios has somehow appropriated multiplex screens that were otherwise destined to uplift us with quality pictures is risible.

quel dommage the Two Girls and a Guyses of tomorrow will have to find an audience on Amazon Prime Video or Netflix Originals. And they will, bc as the article rightly notes they don’t require absurd budgets, and they don’t need big screens to tell their story.

What does get squeezed out is previous-gen tentpole fare, but I guess I’m okay living in a world without Wilder Hogs or Armageddon 3 or The Day After The Day After Tomorrow.

It may not be cinema - I mean, Scorsese has a point! - but it’s a step up from the alternative, and if you don’t believe that try sitting through Justice League. If you want cinema, there’s always Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse 😂

I don't agree, I miss an abundance of studio comedies and disaster movies and secret agents and book adaptations and more VARIETY... that's really what bothers me about Marvel and Disney's year round occupation of multiplexes, the alarming lack of variety. I go to the movies two, three times a week at least. I'm more invested in what plays than most because I go all the time. it's not like they flushed out all crap: stuff like Flight, Nocturnal Animals, Side Effects, even First Man and Ad Astra can't compete with these behemoths. it is a victory of market efficiency and the movie industry finally finding security in not only IPs but entire universes that can guarantee hits for decades. Maybe the bubble will burst just as did with disaster movies, zombies, and Bucket List ripoffs. I really don't think less of or judge fans of these movies, I reject snobbery and elitism. I do mourn the loss of variety in multiplexes because every movie benefits from seeing on a big screen in a room full of people. but that's just been my experience as a lifelong moviegoer.

totally agree every movie benefits from the movie palace treatment... but man has the transition to streaming shown how few movies deserve it.

still feel like the case against marvel is overblown - like in a sense their greatest crime is that at a time when it seemed like we’d seen the last shitty x-men movie (and to be clear even the “good” ones are turgid and ugly) Kevin Feige and John Favreau and RDJ came along and said “hey wait, I think it’s possible to make cape operas that lots of people will actually enjoy...” but even so there are only like 3 marvel movies a year and 52 weekends.

that said, fuck pretending to care about any Star Wars movie released after 1983

yeah I don't blame them, like I said the Marvel movies are generally well regarded and well received by fans. there are 3 Marvel movies a year that all play for at least 2 months, which is reasonable... but then you've got Disney. they are the real enemy because not only do they have year round remakes, they have yearly Star Wars now. so with Marvel and Disney playing in theaters 24/7 it drastically reduces space, and it got a lot worse in the past 2 years. the MCU started in 2008, but things didn't really change until The Force Awakens in 2015. looking back, that was the beginning of this situation.

Scorsese utterly otm and watching MCU stans trying to own him on film history etc has been great entertainment

Yea always a treat watching a legend go after low-hanging fruit

"Taco Bell isn't real Mexican food"

Scorsese utterly otm and watching MCU stans trying to own him on film history etc has been great entertainment

I thought it was pretty funny how many people were tweeting that Scorsese "only makes movies in one genre"

Well that's obv nonsense.

But the average MCU dork probably just knows Goodfellas and Casino

I mean didn’t Scorsese say that in a response to a question in an interview? It seemed like a perfectly honest (and on point) assessment. Much less of an Old Man Yelling thing in the way someone like Friedkin soapboxes about it.

STOP FEEDING THE MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE FROM THE TABLE FROM THE PLATE ON TOP OF IT.

So does Joe Pesci still do the funny voice

a strange development

https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/7/20903107/netflix-the-irishman-martin-scorsese-belasco-theater-screening-award-eligibility

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_wall_distribution

Adventures in modern four walling.

Love this idea of the Belasco, if it’s not $100/ticket.

...and per Deadline:

Tickets for The Irishman at the Belasco will be priced at $15, on sale next week.

I'm whipping through the source book, I Heard You Paint Houses, and it's a barnburner -- I can imagine Marty salivating over it on first read. Either Sheeran was a top-notch mick raconteur (as several of my family members of that generation were) or the author did a helluva job polishing the transcriptions.

It starts with the leadup to the Hoffa disappearance then goe into Sheeran's life chronologically. His WW2 experience (411 combat days, including Anzio and 2 other invasions) is dealt with relatively quickly but brutally -- Sheeran kinda persuasively makes the case that PTSD killed off his morality. I also am reminded of how I learned a number of these gang/labor names reading the papers in grade school...

I doubt they had the CG tech to film the scene where Sheeran gets his ass kicked boxing a kangaroo.

I want to see Robert DeNiro boxing a kangaroo

he missed his chance in the late '70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaE8gZUzwNA

(amazing how fast Elliott Gould's career went into the crapper)

marty says more things, sounds more like old man yelling at cloud. awaiting his further befuddlement in the face of demands for a thorough explanation of why he, Scorsese, an American cinema director of Italian descent, would cast an American actor of Italian descent in the title role when Liam Neeson was available.

still really looking forward to this.

Was going to say maybe Neeson was too tall but Sheeran was 6’4”

Sheeeran was Philly Irish, not Irish Irish

lol yeah casting scandals about a buncha white guys, v likely

icymi, DeNiro is part Irish

idk I hold out hope that some day they will find a jewish actor capable of playing Jesus

A hit, a very palpable hit.

De Niro is as Irish as he is Italian iirc

Almost as if we discussed that at the beginning of this thread. Morbs even insulted someone

The Frank Sheeran book, as Morbs said above, is a great read. I'm racing through it but that's not tough going at all. Excited to see how Scorsese approached this material. In my mind's eye I see Sheeran played by Holt McCallany rather DeNiro but, hey, nobody's complainin' here.

*rather than

De Niro is as Irish as he is Italian iirc

Yes, he's American.

uh guys this does not need to be re-litigated.

rogermex sees this film as necessary anti-union education

ffs

just havin' a little fun, rog

Lol from now on movie characters must be played by their real life counterparts

anyway the deNiro-Pesci dynamic should be different this time as Pesci is playing Russell Bufalino, ie Sheeran's "godfather." Also, Bufalino described as softspoken!

otoh Sheeran said Hoffa threw a tantrum twice a day to keep his temper in shape, so in Pacino's wheelhouse.

Pacino and Pesci screamed their lines on set and they dampened them in post

E Howard Hunt shows up in the book, Nixon AG John Mitchell even moreso. And a 2-page cameo by Joe Biden!

The Brandt book has many respectable skeptics re Sheeran's veracity, but for the movie, who cares?

Yes, "who cares?" indeed.

sez the JFK fan!

David Ferrie is in the book briefly but apaprently not the film; too bad, Pesci could've done a dual role.

AFI Silver has just announced a run starting November 15. Landmark E Street has the film on its Coming Soon page, but no start date.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j1T5xjwGJQ