Creeps, perms, synths & Robert Stack: the Unsolved Mysteries thread

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OG seasons on Amazon Prime & I have been binging the fuck out of season 1... geeked out with some ilxors on ig & fb & figured we needed a dedicated thread

I had only ever watched a few eps, but god this shit is addicting. And well-made: good documentary feel & the re-enactments are not distractingly awful like most re-enactment shows

On camera interviews with irl perps & victim families my favorite thing. Disappearances & murders are my jam. Least favorites: ghosts, treasure, alien abductions, lost inheritances, memorabilia :/

Tell me your favorites!!

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link

Dottie Caylor got me hooked - her husband Jule's on camera was insane. He was so bored & arrogant & dismissive, even of HER

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/unsolvedmysteries/images/7/73/Jule_Caylor.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170415052642

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

and i cannot stop thinking about poor sad lonely Gail from Maine who faked her own disappearance & commited suicide in a Mobile AL hotel room

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/unsolvedmysteries/images/3/38/Gail_DeLano.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170122012853

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:20 (seven years ago) link

and I just watched this one

this one is a whole ball of wtf

https://unsolved.com/gallery/michael-rosenblum/

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:41 (seven years ago) link

Dottie Caylor for sure.

Also:

Kathy Bonderson
The boys on the tracks
Gail Patrick (a suicide whose story is told with poignancy)
Kurt McFall (Satanic panic!)
Crystal Spencer (one of the most WTF cases)
Beverly McGowan and Elaine Parent (holy fuck -- only in Florida)

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:44 (seven years ago) link

and i cannot stop thinking about poor sad lonely Gail from Maine who faked her own disappearance & commited suicide in a Mobile AL hotel room

aw I missed that you had liked the case too

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:45 (seven years ago) link

that Kurt McFall case is so intriguing. his father seems like he is in such abject denial; and there's def a gay story btw kurt & the older guy

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:49 (seven years ago) link

My theory: the frumpy paganist (who died of AIDS, by the way) made a move, Kurt drove away to the peak, slipped and fell.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 July 2017 18:50 (seven years ago) link

i found Jule's Facebook page, he seems to be a boring old Facebook meme guy albeit with a lefty slant.

nomar, Sunday, 30 July 2017 19:11 (seven years ago) link

utah libertarian! he ran for office iirc

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link

xpist wow that reddit thread is a good read. it def feels much more like a slipped & fell than a murder

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 19:24 (seven years ago) link

I just saw the Michaela Garecht abduction in Hayward - sitcomsonline theory is that it may have been creep of creeps Loren Herzog of the Speedfreak Killers

part of me takes it with a grain of salt bcz Wesley Shermantine rivals only Henry Lee Lucas in the race to be the most notorious pathological liar & he's the one who said it was Herzog

but the composite sketch made my blood run cold, the eyes & facial structure look v similar to herzog even later in life

he would have been 18 at the time D:

they dont have any confirmed victims younger thsn teenage, but there's a lot of unconfirmed remains tied to those creeps so who knows

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 19:50 (seven years ago) link

i never knew how much i suuuuuuuuuuuper dont care about psychics until this show

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:07 (seven years ago) link

This was on Unsolved Mysteries. It was something I'd referred to on the Stephen King thread, the really brutal murder of my middle school librarian (the nicest lady on the planet iirc) and her husband, just before the beginning of the next school year.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Raymond_and_Ruth_Ann_Ritter

nomar, Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:09 (seven years ago) link

I thought the dude was on the lam for a year but it was 3 years, jeez. When you're that age, killers on the run really become these terrifying phantoms. My wife talks about growing up in the San Fernando valley during the time the night stalker was operating. It was horrifying for her.

nomar, Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:11 (seven years ago) link

the theme song is one of the most underrated tv songs OF ALL TIME imo. it really sets the tone and ensures that you're re-pumped with each new episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnOeIFx3ML8

Karl Malone, Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:17 (seven years ago) link

it's post-john carpenter but pre-goldeneye 64

Karl Malone, Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

i like the outro music too

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:18 (seven years ago) link

arrested on-camera outfit of choice: head to toe acid wash

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:24 (seven years ago) link

i love the reunited family episodes

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 20:45 (seven years ago) link

awesome thread

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 30 July 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link

i grew up watching this

Week of Wonders (Ross), Sunday, 30 July 2017 21:05 (seven years ago) link

like Veg said, the show has good production value and is well-acted and written as far as these things go.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 30 July 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

The producers really had a feel for that tense and gloomy atmosphere

nomar, Sunday, 30 July 2017 21:20 (seven years ago) link

and the best storytellers are often the family & investigators, because they've relived it every day

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 30 July 2017 22:02 (seven years ago) link

nomar: I remember reading an article about the Ritters in Sassy.

tokyo rosemary, Sunday, 30 July 2017 23:50 (seven years ago) link

Can we discuss how effective Robert Stack is? At one point he breaks the fourth wall and addresses poor, probably dead Patricia Meehan: "Patricia, you're not in trouble. Your family misses you. Come home." And his lack of affect is devastating.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 July 2017 00:46 (seven years ago) link

rosemary, no kidding, i've gotta find that somewhere.

nomar, Monday, 31 July 2017 01:03 (seven years ago) link

Yeah when they did tbe update on poor Gail he gave very heartfelt condolences to the family to camera

I love Robert Stack - he brings the right level of professional gravitas. It may as well BE elliott ness hosting; that's the seriousness he brings

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 July 2017 02:15 (seven years ago) link

i dunno how he doesn't go OKAY LOOK FUCK THESE IDIOTS with the stupid psychic segments

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 July 2017 02:16 (seven years ago) link

I have noticed in S1 that Stack looks even more handsome when he wears dark colored suits

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 July 2017 03:34 (seven years ago) link

He brings a disturbing blend of (affectlessness and inner turmoil breaking through/pulled back into the white eyes, for a while) to Douglas Sirk's Written On The Wind and Tarnished Angels, teamed with Rock Hudson and Dorothy Malone in both.

dow, Monday, 31 July 2017 04:25 (seven years ago) link

So disturbia he still messes up my punctuation, but I'll prob try this show, thanks. What do yall think of John Walsh and America's Most Wanted? I've rarely seen it.

dow, Monday, 31 July 2017 04:28 (seven years ago) link

Matter of fact I think the only way I've seen it is as clips in the Mia Zapata/Gits documentary (DVD is amazing).

dow, Monday, 31 July 2017 04:30 (seven years ago) link

Walsh channelling his personal tragedy into the show is prob the most interesting aspect for me. Hard for me to view it on the same level as Unsolved Mysteries tho.

plus AMW is hard to watch a lot of; it's depressingly un-varied, unlike unsolved mysteries

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 31 July 2017 04:33 (seven years ago) link

america's most wanted is strictly on the escaped criminals tip, Walsh's backstory makes him a more intense figure and justifiably so. Stack brings this Rod Serling like quality to his hosting.

nomar, Monday, 31 July 2017 05:40 (seven years ago) link

man this show scared the hell out of me as a kid, just hearing the theme still gives me the cold chills. would prob love it now.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 31 July 2017 06:39 (seven years ago) link

I was absolutely loved this as a kid, and was terrified of it at the same time. And I admit, I loved when "The Unexplained" flashed up on screen - I just ate that stuff up. A paranormal-exclusive variant, Sightings, was a weekly tune-in as well.

One case that really stuck in my head for a long time was the man who jumped onto a plane just as it was taking off, held on for several minutes, then fell to his death. He was eventually identified years later - horribly tragic stuff.

Duane Barry, Monday, 31 July 2017 11:29 (seven years ago) link

A Season 1 episode!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 July 2017 11:38 (seven years ago) link

I always liked the reunited family updates.

tokyo rosemary, Monday, 31 July 2017 16:54 (seven years ago) link

i dunno how he doesn't go OKAY LOOK FUCK THESE IDIOTS with the stupid psychic segments

― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, July 30, 2017 1

He does in a Season Five segment set in a haunted northern California hotel. Stack, stopping himself from blowing a raspberry, says, 'Now, we and the crew have been here awhile, and we've seen no evidence of ghosts. However..."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 02:39 (seven years ago) link

Fabulous 90-minute interview w/Robert Stack shot in 1999. His memory is crisp and he doesn't take himself the least bit seriously. Here he tells a story of how Ava Gardner conspired to rob him of the Academy Award in 1957. "She wasn't the most avuncular person..."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 02:57 (seven years ago) link

oooooh thx Alfred :D

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 04:09 (seven years ago) link

boy what a great interview, i could listen to him talk forever.

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 August 2017 16:45 (seven years ago) link

Veg, have you gotten to Wanda Jean Mays yet? Yeesh.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2017 01:24 (seven years ago) link

What season is she? I have only just now finished s1

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 August 2017 01:35 (seven years ago) link

She's the nurse who disappeared w/out a trace on her way to a bus stop. Then in the late '80s these mysterious notes appeared in shopping malls ostensibly written by the killer in broken English.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 August 2017 01:37 (seven years ago) link

Oh and here’s the Salem News investigative story about Lena https://www.thesalemnewsonline.com/news/article_5c50244a-da37-11e5-9200-33fc9d2ba192.html

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 July 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

Literally just finished Lena episode one minute ago

Fucccccck
God dammit

gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

Brandi and robin are heroic

gnarled and turbid sinuses (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 4 July 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link

completely

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 4 July 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just watched all of these. Some of the policework seems a little lackadaisical to say the least. In the first one where he speculates whether the guy could have jumped that far from the roof, idk maybe try and work it out, it's not that hard. And did they examine debris in the room to see if it was caused by him falling through or not? Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, would be nice to know. Seems even worse in the case of Lena: two missing person cases, one if not both of them probably murder with a prime suspect and they seemingly don't bother to forensically examine either of her properties? And what's all the stuff about people "lawyering up"? Can they not be interviewed anyway - is it a crime to refuse to cooperate in a murder investigation?

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 12:37 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

🚨season 2 now up on Netfllix🚨

😃

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 October 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

:D

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

there’s an episode about ghost sightings from the 2011 tsunami in japan & man, it is so haunting & sad

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 October 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

oh man i have read about that case
too sad

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link

welp i finished the whole season LOL

ama?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 01:22 (three years ago) link

are there still idiot cops

neith moon (ledge), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link

yes!

will watch

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link

the norwegian investigator dude in the oslo hotel suicide episode has to be a cousin of lars ulrich's, there's no way he's not

the burrito that defined a generation, Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link

first one, sad story but not much mystery.

neith moon (ledge), Friday, 23 October 2020 09:01 (three years ago) link

second one, lot of reaching going on here.

neith moon (ledge), Saturday, 24 October 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

watching the original series, a little way into s2

in the roswell incident section, the group of folks who allegedly found the alien bodies -- a soil scientist and a team fresh from a local archeological dig -- are mostly kitted out with pith helmets, a detail that seems to be pure goofy invention (they say these ppl have never been tracked down identified or interviewed)

mark s, Monday, 7 December 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

also i watched an eye-rollingly boring section on the wooden crucified jesus in a philadelphia church that may or may have closed its eyes (it as not declared an official miracle)

mark s, Monday, 7 December 2020 17:41 (three years ago) link

reminds me of the icon that is supposedly hanging on the wall of a church somewhere without any actual physical means of support. of course you can't actually look behind it.

ledge, Monday, 7 December 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

the truth is back there

mark s, Monday, 7 December 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

actor playing rudolf hess wearing immense stick-on black bushy eyebrows

mark s, Monday, 7 December 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

My intro to the dude.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 December 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

i guess the story is abt doubles so maybe this is realism and the guy pretending to be rudolf hess also wore fake eyebrows

mark s, Monday, 7 December 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

section on crop circles lol

mark s, Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

"circle investigator/dowser" uh-huh

mark s, Sunday, 13 December 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

(i was interrupted watching this bit yesterday)

mark s, Sunday, 13 December 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

"you just can't believe it"

you're a dowser!!

mark s, Sunday, 13 December 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

strand on reincarnation:

"i don't buy the reincarnation but she has some kind of power, some power of knowing what happened in the past. i don't know what the power would be but she has it"

mark s, Monday, 14 December 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link

"under ordinary circumstances we would not film a recreation of the murder of a united states senator"

mark s, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

ok so this lady's "supernatural power" is sticking gold foil to her face

mark s, Saturday, 30 January 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link

who am i to scoff

mark s, Saturday, 30 January 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link

"here we have something which is a medical marvel"

mark s, Saturday, 30 January 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link

watching a segment on amelia earhart: typed "was amelia earhart — " into google for an update on whether or not a body was ever found at which point google offered me two completed questions

i: "was amelia earhart a lesbian?"
ii: "was amelia earhart eaten by crabs?"

unsolved mysteries answers neither of these qeries

mark s, Sunday, 7 February 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

john wilkes booth yet lives

mark s, Sunday, 23 April 2023 19:29 (one year ago) link

the actor playing the corpse has a very fake mustache

mark s, Sunday, 23 April 2023 19:33 (one year ago) link

Just watched that one a couple of weeks ago, ha

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 24 April 2023 04:42 (one year ago) link

alamo edn, but it's abt buried treasure in an old well and whether or not davey crockett (= king of the wild frontier) surrendered

mark s, Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:09 (one year ago) link

update: there was no buried treasure

mark s, Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link

The Mary Ellen Perez case gets me: single mom in Carter-era America goes to bar in Louisiana, gets kidnapped by man + wife who both come on to her, probably kill her.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

*Mary Ann Perez

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 6 May 2023 17:35 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

the real unsolved mystery is why would mothman move to chicago in the first place

mark s, Friday, 16 August 2024 18:31 (one month ago) link

most interesting aspect of this ep was that it was very much promoting a think-i-too-saw-mothman support group

questions not answered: was spring-heeled jack a mothman?

evidence:
— red eyes ✅
— powerful ability to move vertically ✅
— everyone sighting SHJ just ludicrously and unreasonably frightened ✅

mark s, Friday, 16 August 2024 18:40 (one month ago) link

mothman is such a least-effort-possible mystery

mark s, Friday, 16 August 2024 18:47 (one month ago) link

my god, the Charles Holden story in Season Seven. Guy goes to Hardees for a late snack, picks up a hitchhiker who threatens him with a nife, gets away from the hitchhiker but doesn't go home for fear of leading the hitchhiker there. About a half hour later he eventually drives home and to his astonishment spots the hitchhiker walking to his house where Holden's old mom lives -- pure coincidence. Stabs her to death.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2024 20:34 (one month ago) link

holy shit

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 17 August 2024 20:38 (one month ago) link

*knife

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 17 August 2024 20:44 (one month ago) link

one month passes...

I am in a house with 'Samsung TV'. I don't quite understand why it would happen, but if you've bought a newish Samsung TV you get a bunch of channels playing one show non-stop. https://www.samsung.com/au/tvs/smart-tv/samsung-tv-plus/all-channels/

There's an Unsolved Mysteries channel. Got into a guy who found his 'Bigger Brother' a few decades later and it was quite heartwarming. And the whole time there's Robert Stack in a scary house and a trenchcoat.

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/John_Novotny

Bellend Sebastian (S-), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 14:24 (three days ago) link

ok Mr Samsung

brimstead, Tuesday, 1 October 2024 15:06 (three days ago) link

i love that story

the long-lost (xyz) stories always get me

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 17:15 (three days ago) link

kind of hate the ghost ones the most because it is such a poor use of robert stack, and i can go either way in buried treasure

but any of the rest of the real idk human stories, almost always good/great/devastating

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 October 2024 17:17 (three days ago) link


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