Tony Kushner is writing a play about Trump and a WEST SIDE STORY remake for Spielberg

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And "a film about the politician and civil rights icon Barbara Jordan for Viola Davis"! Hope that gets made.

Beret McKesson (jaymc), Friday, 21 July 2017 05:38 (six years ago) link

i'd like to hear anyone attempt to do, or even evoke, Barbara Jordan's voice.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 July 2017 12:22 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

here we go

http://www.playbill.com/article/steven-spielberg-and-tony-kushner-west-side-story-remake-issues-casting-call

I'll be ready when they're casting the druggist.

Tombot for Officer Krupke

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 January 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

hard to say which one of these i’m least enthused about

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 January 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

At least we know from 1941 that Spielberg can shoot bravura dance/musical sequences. Other than that, hard to get too enthusiastic yet.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Friday, 26 January 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link

krup this

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Friday, 26 January 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link

Had no idea until reading this article that Kushner wrote the Fences screenplay.

... (Eazy), Friday, 26 January 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link

sigh

you're only supposed to remake shitty films

palace of swears reversed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 January 2018 15:52 (six years ago) link

I support a new film version of West Side Story. Brownface and implausibly-old teenagers aside, the reworking of “Somewhere” into a love duet is enough to make me not care for the movie.

Though really, West Side Story is best when produced by high schools.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Friday, 26 January 2018 16:04 (six years ago) link

Maybe it's not a remake, maybe its a soft reboot!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link

the 1961 West Side Story is a stuffed-and-mounted "shitty film" of a Broadway musical where the lead actors are dubbed by real singers. This isn't even a challops.

The screenplay of Fences is credited to August Wilson (it's 99% the play).

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link

It's not really a remake, it's a second film adaptation of a stage musical. No one called Scorsese's Age of Innocence a remake of the film adap from the '30s.

But yeah, musical theatre generally belongs on the stage. I suspect S.S. has a decent shot at making this sufficiently cinematic.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 January 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

will save my ticket money for jared kushner's west bank story

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 26 January 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

the choreography in the 61 movie is pretty great even tho i agree with you about the dubbing, but that was standard Hollywood practice at the time

don't bother filming stage shows is probably closer to the truth

palace of swears reversed (Noodle Vague), Friday, 26 January 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link

Well sure, Jerome Robbins did the choreography as on Broadway, but to a large degree it was the stage stuff done with a camera running.

from wiki on the Fences adap:

Playwright and screenwriter Tony Kushner came aboard to build on a draft written by Wilson before his death in 2005. However, Wilson is the only credited screenwriter for the film, while Kushner received a co-producer credit.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 January 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link

and yes, the Latinx will be played by Latinx. (Everyone knows about Natalie Wood, but George Chakiris won an Oscar, and he was Greek.)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 January 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

I hope Tony Kushner kept Doc's "You kids make this world lousy!" line.

http://thefilmexperience.net/blog/2018/11/28/rita-moreno-to-return-to-movie-musicals-for-real-this-time.html

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

On board. Is that Anybodys on the end there? <3

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

I've come round on this

Rory end to the lowenbrow (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

actually I might have ruined my productivity for the afternoon b/c I'm now very emotional about the character of Anybodys again.

don't mock my smock or i'll clean your clock (silby), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

that is NOT the High School for the Performing Arts next to them

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

I think Spielberg might be bored.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link

i think this could potentially be v good

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 June 2019 12:34 (four years ago) link

Potentially! It could also potentially be pretty terrible. On the plus side, at least it's not all motion capture (as far as we know).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 June 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Looking forward to the digital replacement of Tony.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Monday, 22 June 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

sounds like a bad date that will blow over

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 June 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

(yer about 2 days late on that joke too)

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 June 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

What joke?

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Monday, 22 June 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Pushed to December 2021. Plenty of time to replace Tony.

Get the point? Good, let's dance with nunchaku. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

Is it too late not to make it?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

Did they finish principal photography?

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

Filming took place in Harlem and other Manhattan locations and in Flatlands, Brooklyn, in New York City in July 2019. There were ten days of shooting in Paterson, New Jersey, where an outdoor set was built, in August 2019. Filming also took place in Newark and other parts of Essex County, New Jersey.[28][29] It wrapped on September 27, 2019.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Early word would make Morbs sing.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link

(And everyone seems in agreement that Elgort is the film's biggest liability.)

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 30 November 2021 18:11 (two years ago) link

Over the course of a long and often distinguished career, Spielberg has offered clues that he was willing and able to make a musical, from the breathless jitterbug sequence in “1941” to Kate Capshaw crooning “Anything Goes” (in Mandarin) with a kick-line of tap-dancing chorus girls in “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.” He’s finally gotten to apply his know-how to one of the great musicals of all time, and the dare has paid off. Contemporary filmmakers who embrace the genre but who hide their lack of expertise behind excessive editing and auto-tuning have just had a gauntlet thrown down.

https://www.thewrap.com/west-side-story-review-2021-steven-spielberg/

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 December 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link

Plenty of raves elsewhere, but the last sentence of this one is the first thing that's brought me into full-out geek-hyped mode.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link

Is it challops to say I'm not a fan of the original?

Regardless, I'm gonna watch this one.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

Nah, the original has its problems. First and foremost, the puzzling decision to do the lovely "Somewhere" as some sort of off-to-the-races speed ballad.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Thursday, 2 December 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link

so stoked for this. never saw the original movie, huge fan of the stage musical though

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 December 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

I groaned when I saw the 156 minute running time, but then I realized that's only 4 minutes longer than the original (which I like), which is downright restrained by contemporary remake/reboot/franchise standards.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 2 December 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

Speaking into a void on this topic in this location in this moment but I'm genuinely bummed at the box-office shrug on this one.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Saturday, 11 December 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

Somewhat in the context of my main writing outlet's year-end best movies list preface more or less putting a happy face about the whole "hey, we know you haven't heard of these titles, but hey, isn't it exciting that movies don't even have to pretend to be a popular art anymore?" posturing.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Saturday, 11 December 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

Is it a shrug yet?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 December 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link

Just getting ahead of it

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:01 (two years ago) link

My guess is it’ll do good streaming business.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

this seems to have sneaked out with not much publicity which my daughter tells me might be because Mr Baby Driver has been outed as a scumbag?

definitely want to see it tho

let's make lunch and listen to five finger death punch (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link

saw it last night with the opening night crowd, theatre was maybe a third full at most, kinda bummed

wanted the movie to last forever when Elgort was offscreen, was counting down the minutes until the end when he was on

Murgatroid, Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

West Side Story and Yojimbo are both stories of rival gangs whose generational stability is based on hand to hand combat in the streets of an insular, unchanging village. The tides of history undo all that, and in both stories, a firearm heralds the arrival of a grim new era.

— Matt Zoller Seitz (@mattzollerseitz) December 11, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:08 (two years ago) link

(Both came out in 1961!)

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:09 (two years ago) link

I groaned when I saw the 156 minute running time, but then I realized that's only 4 minutes longer than the original (which I like), which is downright restrained by contemporary remake/reboot/franchise standards.

― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, December 2, 2021 2:19 PM bookmarkflaglink

in fairness, also the standard running for any stage musical

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

dying to see this

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 11 December 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

Misread that as "DJing to see this."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 December 2021 20:27 (two years ago) link

Owen G in Variety pivots from why West Side Story underperformed to positing that the absolutely terrible House of Gucci was the only adult drama to not sue at the box office this year.

https://variety.com/2021/film/columns/west-side-story-steven-spielberg-underperforamance-1235131407/amp/

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 December 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

lol “not to die” not “not to sue”

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 December 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

It’s a depressing fact of our moviegoing moment that when it comes to prestige dramas pitched to adults, one title after another (“Belfast,” “Spencer,” “King Richard”)

And I fell asleep about here.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 December 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

Yeah, that essay was epic.

Was this expected to be a surefire hit? Seems less of a surefire hit on paper in 2021 then In the Heights, and that was no hit.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 December 2021 19:31 (two years ago) link

I honestly can't believe that movie studios are in any way expecting theatrical hits at this point in time. In an alternate universe where the pandemic fizzled out a few months ago, this is exactly the sort of thing I would have embraced as a 'back into the world!' aperitif, but it ain't happening in this world.

Rep. Cobra Commander (R-TX) (Old Lunch), Sunday, 12 December 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link

Sure, but there have been hits, just not to the level of Hi, Mom in China big.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/2021/?ref_=bo_yl_table_1

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Sunday, 12 December 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link

i am dying to see this, just the look of it from the trailer made me v excited

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 12 December 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link

I honestly can't believe that movie studios are in any way expecting theatrical hits at this point in time.

There are still hits, but they're exactly the kind of films you'd expect (Franchise stuff--Marvel/Fast & Furious--or would-be franchise stuff--Free Guy), and hit like hits did back in the '90s when a #1 film would sit at the top week after week.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:43 (two years ago) link

^^I only really know this because I'm Facebook friends with the manager of a local Edwards Cinema, and he posts A LOT about box office returns.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:45 (two years ago) link

I wonder if Christmas weekend will draw people out. (I know that’s the next time I’ll get to theaters, for a few things.)

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link

SELF-XP Point being that the audience for prestige fare is contributing less than ever to keeping the lights on at theatres.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 December 2021 23:49 (two years ago) link

It kinda makes me sad how many people talk about WSS as this kitschy thing. It's one of my favorite musicals. And doesn't flinch with its politics.

I am gonna try to take my folks

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 December 2021 01:16 (two years ago) link

WSS rules

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 13 December 2021 01:31 (two years ago) link

I have to eat my words a bit ... was not blown away by WSS '21 last night. But I will never walk away from a Spielberg movie without giving it the benefit of the doubt, so I'll try again soon.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Monday, 13 December 2021 16:09 (two years ago) link

I don't like the 1961 movie version much. It went way too far in its artificiality -- you need some unreality to make song & dance work, but it went so far that it didn't resemble the real world. It was a good choice for a musical to remake.

adam t. (abanana), Monday, 13 December 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link

I think the stage musical works better in that regard. Easier to be conceptual and doesn't seem so jarring as it does in a movie

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Monday, 13 December 2021 20:41 (two years ago) link

He has found his true audience: critics who want Old Hollywood to live again, zombie-like, and he's doing his best to make it do so.

— Richard Brody (@tnyfrontrow) December 15, 2021

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/review-steven-spielbergs-west-side-story-remake-is-worse-than-the-original

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link

oh is THAT what it is

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link

is this even true?

The original Tony, for instance, wants to avoid a fight because he has a job and wants a better future than the one that seems to await his layabout friends in the Jets. There’s no single awakening that led him to want out of gang life. His decisions seem to follow the complex yet inchoate impulses of his character. By contrast, the Tony of Spielberg’s film is a convict who has spent a year in Sing Sing because of a fight in which he nearly killed another young man. He avoids the Jets because he doesn’t want to jeopardize his parole. When Riff tries to persuade him to take part in the “rumble” with the Sharks anyway, Tony explains that he’d spent his time in prison examining himself ruefully and resolving to live differently. Whatever Spielberg and Kushner may have had in mind, what they deliver with this simplistic backstory is an endorsement of incarceration: the movie makes clear that Tony came out of prison a better person than he went in.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 16:57 (two years ago) link

I mean, basically it is. The last part is sheerly interpretive tho.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link

that's what I meant. It's a...novel interpretation.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

It's a reach, yes.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

woah hold up you mean spielberg isn't a prison abolitionist?

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Wednesday, 15 December 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

surprising no one i thought this was magnificent for the most part

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 December 2021 06:43 (two years ago) link

the richard brody review is profoundly stupid

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 December 2021 06:50 (two years ago) link

I'm not reading it all and it could be accidental but the first few paragraphs read like he thinks the first movie is the "original" West Side Story

let's make lunch and listen to five finger death punch (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 December 2021 08:06 (two years ago) link

I listened to In The Thick a LatinX podcast talk about the new version over the last couple of days. I think they concluded that it is still heavily white gaze and maybe Spielberg should have stepped aside and produced a LatinX directed version of the film if he needed to revive it.

Stevolende, Sunday, 19 December 2021 08:13 (two years ago) link

I thought the original West Side Story was whatever Shakespeare borrowed heavily from for Romeo & Juliet.
Presumably the musical itself was on Broadway before a film version happened.

I did also hear that the 60s film had all the Puerto Ricans with the same skintone failing to reflect the diversity of ancestry which is a big factor in PR culture.

Stevolende, Sunday, 19 December 2021 08:21 (two years ago) link

the most effective change is the robert moses/lincoln center setup imo (though this may be one of the things eric thinks is too smart for the material)

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 December 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

being anti-gentrification (and those gentrifying forces reinforcing racism) is def the most radical and clear theme in the spielberg version

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 December 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link

but let's be real this movie is mainly about sound and image, and it delivers on all those fronts, especially the "america" and "i feel pretty" sequences

my gf was telling me about a modernized wss revival where they cut "i feel pretty" to maintain a dour and dismal mood (i keep calling this version "i feel gritty"), and i think of this anytime i read someone wishing spielberg had brought the text into the present

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 19 December 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

I'll probably walk back the "smart" comments when I see it again, but yes, I kind of did find the real-world elements to be an intrusion on the basic primal power of the central romance and Bernstein's music. I get that they sort of ought to be there if you're going to remake the movie as a (now) period piece, and thank gawd they didn't make a present day version with gangs made up of, I guess, the only people who can afford to live in Manhattan?

Anyway, I'll see it again.

Max Hamburgers (Eric H.), Sunday, 19 December 2021 19:42 (two years ago) link

Elgort the least interesting thing. And his voice is heavily treated.

Otherwise.... magnificent

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Sunday, 19 December 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link

some of the changes effective - Rita Moreno as Doc's widow was a clever take, gave her a connection to the Sharks.

unfortunately, means my favorite bit of dialogue in the original musical was cut:

"You guys make this world lousy!"
"It's how we found it, Doc"

and adding backstory that Tony went to prison and specifying he almost killed a dude was a bit unnecessary.

but ultimately this was one of the most well-cast modern movie musicals I've seen. Faist's Riff was heartbreaking, and Rachel Zegler and Ariana DeBose were utter fire. I don't honestly think there were any castings I didn't like other than Elgort.

hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 December 2021 22:18 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

watching it again, I remember I don’t really like the original West Side Story

Dan S, Thursday, 17 February 2022 02:10 (two years ago) link

haven't seen Spielberg's version yet

Dan S, Thursday, 17 February 2022 02:12 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

I didn't love this remake at all but wow this sucks: https://www.billboard.com/culture/tv-film/rachel-zegler-oscars-invite-west-side-story-1235046314/

Roz, Monday, 21 March 2022 02:25 (two years ago) link


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