Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

I'm rewatching everything, and noticing lots of stuff. When the insurance man (played by Mr Pitt from Seinfeld!) is talking to Bobby and Shelly about Leo's care he says to think about childproofing the outlets. Which is presumably coincidental, but interesting given what happens in the new series. Are there parrallel's between Leo's catatonia and Dougie's amnesia?

When the insurance man (played by Mr Pitt from Seinfeld!)

Whoa I've watched both religiously and I *never* noticed that was him!

You noticed him in Inland Empire though right?

Def yeah

I'm probably dumb about film stuff, but how exactly would you go about re-filming digital effects? Like projecting the footage and filming it with a camera?

That's what it sounds like!

Reminds me of reproducing photos you lacked the negative for back in photography class, using a medium or large format camera mounted above a surface with the original mounted

Or bouncing something to analog tape when you're trying to combine digital audio files that have different sample rates. Or re-amping digital recordings to record them in a real space.

And this is probably super old news, but before the 'It's happening again' scene, Cooper chews gum given to him by the log lady, who talks about gum in one of the intros. Only mentioning because in the 90s I remember the quote "that gum you like..." being considered to be a reference to gumshoe, or some such. This seems a more likely reference.

But dear god, Maddy's murder shocks me every time.

Pretty sure the newly-shot effects footage would just replace the old effects footage in the digital composition. I don't think you'd project the original unless you were using it as reference while you were creating the new effect. If you wanted to blend the two together you'd still probably do that in software.

here's an ILX exclusive (clusive, clusive...) recently recorded the final Lodgers ep with guests Dennis Lim and Tom McCarthy (the novelist, not the director lol). should be up next weekend

Do you "shoot" digital effects footage though? idgi

oh! that's great, Simon. Really looking forward to that!

had not previously noticed that sarah palmer spends her days sitting directly in the maw of a terrifying face

https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/sarahp.jpg

(covered upthread prob, i just got excited a second)

wait what do you mean, where's the face?

the mirrors are eyes and a nose; the couch is a mouth

oh god

that's judy, this is canon

i think she is, basically

sure is a mystery, huh

http://www.wfuv.org/sites/default/files/news/photos/1849293183_2b383d0c1b_o.jpg

all 4 parts of these are up now

An episodic treatment of the episodic televisual-cinematic whatsit Twin Peaks: The Return, and a year-in-review, for @reverse_shot.
Pt 1: (https://t.co/UFWTGWMH4j)
Pt 2: (https://t.co/0DBSHnp85t)
Pt 3: (https://t.co/Vf0MUuqk1S)
Pt 4: (https://t.co/EnYT1mWDkE)

— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) February 1, 2018

nice thabks

thabsyou vebly much

Yeah, I enjoyed reading through those that. Is the series over? I was hopeful there would be a part 5 tomorrow

found a weird new porn site pic.twitter.com/3BIoKDk4iS

— adam (@burgerkrang) February 6, 2018

Not sure if it's exactly what y'all were inferring but I think I could get behind the notion of the Palmer house as an incarnation of Judy. It's certainly been framed throughout the series as a corrupted/corrupting space.

the pinkerton essays are great (there's some needless star war hate but even that was enjoyable to sift through)

TBF, I don't know how one would even talk about The Return without spending at least a little time ruminating on The Last Jedi.

idk if that's necessarily true

I'm glad you were here to say it politely brad

I'm willing to hear arguments to the contra...

Okay, okay, I'll curb the japery before I'm too entrenched.

Now that this has been over for a while, have people itt softened on the Dougie scenes? So many people hated that arc, most because it went on for so long, but I love the drip drop of details we get about the real Dougie's past—how this empty vessel existed for decades and somehow carved out a fulfilling life for himself.

I never had any beef with Dougie. Some of the frustration seems to have stemmed from an expectation that The Return would to some extent be TP-by-numbers, which was never gonna happen.

i didn't like it at the time and i like it even less now. i think that applies to just about everything in the show but esp to the dougie arc.

There did seem to be something cruel about the show's use of its limited run time with the Dougie plot, and I'm still not sure how much of that was deliberately a joke at the expense of impatient viewers (like the slow waiter visiting Cooper in S2E1, only spread across hours) or whether Lynch just genuinely loved the character and spending time in that Vegas world. Probably a bit of both, I guess, but in hindsight it seems way more like the latter to me.

I mean plenty of posters in the two threads were posting about what they found rich about the vegas plotline (beyond it being just a single conceptual gag) for literally the entirety of its run

The slow waiter is a good analogy in that it obviously is partly a joke on impatient viewers, but it's also tense and sad and lovely and joyous (señor droolcup is a fucking angel! just like DougieCooper). People always talk about "trolling" with that scene but I don't think the point of it is the people who feel they're being shut out, except that it wants those people to fix their hearts

Lynch just genuinely loved the character and spending time in that Vegas world

it's really only this

i think

I can understand why someone might not be on board with Dougie or five minutes of uninterrupted sweeping or the extended scenes of dawdling that bookend the second season but it's part of what Lynch does. He likes to let things breathe. This isn't one of those MTV videos or a trailer for a Jason Statham movie, man.

david lynch's the transporter would probably just be the straight story 2

a co-worker who i think is a TP fan not a lynch fan (hasn't seen fwwm which i obv recommended she do as soon as set and setting permits) said something to me like "i need to see the new one because i need to know what happens to coop" and for all the allegedly hostile choices the return makes i was totally confident in saying "you will find out what happens to coop"

I'll go out on a limb and say I'm not a fan of the sweeping scene. I didn't really see what purpose it had, other than as reductive shorthand for "damn this series is slow."

But I think the frustration stems mostly from the sense (imagined, mostly) that those long scenes come at the expense of something we aren't seen—"why are we seeing this instead of Coop/Audrey, etc," as if there was only so much screen time to go around. That may have been the case for FWWM, where a lot of good stuff involving characters we love had to be cut in order to make the film stand on its own, but he pretty clearly fit everything he wanted to in The Return. They even extended the series' episode account iirc

Its purpose is ultimately the same as all of the other roadhouse musical interludes

I need to rewatch because I've forgotten a bunch of scenes of weird dark things and the thing I've most thought about in the last month is Dougie!

I visualize the essence of Cooper's as this swirling cosmic force that can influence Dougie's body, but only barely. So you have this tabula rasa character being pushed around on the chess board by a player that subtly moves him, who can see the entire playing surface. He's completely oblivious as to who is a knight, rook, etc. but the cosmic player knows. Eventually it's time for that particular game to end and he ends up getting that jolt of electricity as Cooper moves from the chess master role into his body.

Did Cooper really have that much control over Dougie's body, though? It seemed like it was mostly the lodge pulling the levers

Its purpose is ultimately the same as all of the other roadhouse musical interludes

make me wonder why twin peaks now sounds like being in an urban outfitters?

I can understand why someone might not be on board with Dougie or five minutes of uninterrupted sweeping

They're not the same thing. The sweeping is fine.

lol you may be the only viewer who was like "man Dougie doesn't move me at all but now this sweeping scene.... that's the good stuff"

Periodic reminder that it is cooper's body, not Dougie's, that cooper may or may not have the barest control over