Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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Halfway through. This should take us to the bittersweet end.

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:31 (two years ago) link

SOILER

BOB is a cylon

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:33 (two years ago) link

That you can only see if you're high on the drugs.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:33 (two years ago) link

What are you talking about, there are no drugs in this season, just a couple of alcoholics

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:38 (two years ago) link

Few can see him: the gifted... and the daaaaamn dude how much did you take?

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:41 (two years ago) link

wow you guys are hilarious remind me to never write a post in 1 minute without thinking it through before a bunch of know it alls jump down my throat

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:44 (two years ago) link

fuck me for writing a few sentences about a tv show at lunch time and not being consistent. what a horrible, stupid person i am

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:44 (two years ago) link

Time for a new thread guys

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:46 (two years ago) link

We did our best.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:46 (two years ago) link

nobody called you horrible or stupid Adam, ppl are just goofin

anyway this show is awesome

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:48 (two years ago) link

really wish there were some animated gifs from ep 8 that I could use as a screensaver or something

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:48 (two years ago) link

I made this thread to get off that subject!

I love how much Briggs there was in the last episode. You can feel how much both lynch and frost really love the character. Charlotte Stewart, although she had v little to do in the original series, is part of Lynch's Eraserhead family along with the much-missed nance & coulson, and I remember Dana ashbrook saying in interviews that he always looked upon Stewart and Davis as surrogate parents; this all comes through v strongly in the chair scene. It's also interesting to think that the Briggses are very devout Catholics (this is emphasised again in the missing pieces although it's played somewhat for laughs which is a slight return to the s1 characterisation of garland as the pompous, oblivious parent) - their faith feels key to understanding garland's message, given just before he "died", and Betty's just accepting what she had to have known was a farewell & subsequently keeping the secret till the right time.

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 16:59 (two years ago) link

huh I must've missed/forgotten the Catholic stuff

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:01 (two years ago) link

I only know the denomination because the frost book makes a big point of it but their Christianity was in the first season & in the missing pieces he's reading aloud to Betty from the book of revelations at the dinner table(!)

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:11 (two years ago) link

I didn't realize until embarrassingly recently that that was Charlotte Stewart in Eraserhead (which I've seen at least as many times as I've seen any of the Twin Peaks episodes she was in).

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:11 (two years ago) link

he reads from the book of revelation. that's all i remember regarding him and religiosity.

xp. are we considering the frost book as canon? i wouldn't personally

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:19 (two years ago) link

I think of Frost's book as another facet of the TP jewel. Its perspective (not to mention some of the pertinent details) doesn't quite jibe with that of the show but it's an intersting alternate take.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:27 (two years ago) link

Which is basically Lynch's stated perspective on it, as well, iirc.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:27 (two years ago) link

Lynch and frost are both like "canon schmanon" which is kinda my attitude too but I think we can get an idea of his conception of the character from the book

In general tho I feel like the log lady introductions and palmer family interview are more relevant than the book even though they can't logically exist in the world of the show

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:28 (two years ago) link

thanks to the allure of the ridiculous amazon prime day, I have given in and will be reading the Secret History book this weekend

what have you people done to me

mh, Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:30 (two years ago) link

I think of Frost's book as another facet of the TP jewel. Its perspective (not to mention some of the pertinent details) doesn't quite jibe with that of the show but it's an intersting alternate take.

Yeah this basically. All the books are like different approaches to the same story. Even with fwwm I remember reading that lynch told a member of the crew re discontinuity (hairstyles, locations, weather, you name it) "think of it as a parallel universe"

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:31 (two years ago) link

I'd just got used to where the tp link was in my list of bookmarks, damn it!

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:42 (two years ago) link

important erratum: in the previous thread where we were discussing that Crossroads film which seems like an important influence on the nuke sequence in episode 8, i said that the Terry Riley album that was very similar to his score to Crossroads was Persian Surgery Dervishes, but it's not, I meant to say Descending Moonshine Dervishes. I don't even own Persian Surgery Dervishes. As you were!

or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:15 (two years ago) link

sorry mr. lynch pic.twitter.com/ZICATyxBwP

— Chris Person (@Papapishu) July 12, 2017

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:19 (two years ago) link

Showtime says the show is averaging around 2 million viewers across all platforms.
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/07/twin-peaks-ratings-2017-season-4-game-of-thrones-1201853930/

Chris L, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:41 (two years ago) link

is that good or bad

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:43 (two years ago) link

I think that's very good in terms of the viewership of today.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:46 (two years ago) link

I'm picturing Gordon yelling, "These are some good numbers, Tammy!"

mh, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:47 (two years ago) link

it's not bad from what I know, but I also could not give less of a shit either way, can't imagine there'll be more episodes after this in any case

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:48 (two years ago) link

don't really see this as competition with GoT which I would think has a totally different (and stupider) audience

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:49 (two years ago) link

just gettin some ad homs in for laffs there

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:49 (two years ago) link

I'm picturing Gordon yelling, "These are some good numbers, Tammy!"

― mh, Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:47 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:51 (two years ago) link

Seems like Showtime is genuinely pleased, so good enough.

Chris L, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:02 (two years ago) link

I mean on the off chance they greenlight On the Air: The Return.

Chris L, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:03 (two years ago) link

oh yeah game of thrones that reminds me

sky atlantic is gonna simulcast it which means they're not gonna simulcast twin peaks any more, it's gonna be on at 3am instead of 2am :-(

(still gonna watch it then obv)

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:06 (two years ago) link

I'm on the hook for a GoT viewing at my neighbors' sunday night which means I have to ask my Twin Peaks team to postpone to Monday night

I do not prefer this, needless to say

or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:09 (two years ago) link

I did not realize GoT was going to be airing at the same time as TP. That seems unnecessarily prickish of HBO.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:14 (two years ago) link

Andy and Lucy are really reminiscent of something about the French clowning tradition. On the Air had a lot of the same feel to it, too. Can't put my finger on it--the way they're "funny" instead of actually being funny.

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:15 (two years ago) link

shrug, nobody watches tp live anyway as documented above so whatever

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:16 (two years ago) link

xp

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:16 (two years ago) link

Was struck by how much they are literally clowns. Andy's paunch is part of the costume, but if you slapped the make up on them you wouldn't have to change their behavior one bit. xpost

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:16 (two years ago) link

why would Showtime's competition be concerned anyway? GoT is a juggernaut, i doubt HBO's much concerned about what else happens to be airing at the time.

xpsss

circa1916, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:17 (two years ago) link

I did not realize GoT was going to be airing at the same time as TP. That seems unnecessarily prickish of HBO.

pretty sure they're airing it at the same time as the last 6 seasons.

my plan is to watch GoT and then TP, in that order, on sunday nights. it's really hard to do the other way around.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:18 (two years ago) link

What shows before TP Sundays on Showtime?

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:19 (two years ago) link

the previous week's tp, by the look of it

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:27 (two years ago) link

also looks like they're changing the time - starting in august it'll be on an hour earlier. 8pm there, 1am here

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:29 (two years ago) link

TP is the first show in ages that I've made the effort to watch as its airing.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:31 (two years ago) link

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Johnny2.jpg

kinda haunted by this shot. happened so quickly i barely noticed the photo.

circa1916, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:34 (two years ago) link

oops

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Johnny2.jpg

circa1916, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:34 (two years ago) link

Andy and Lucy are really reminiscent of something about the French clowning tradition. On the Air had a lot of the same feel to it, too. Can't put my finger on it--the way they're "funny" instead of actually being funny.

― Dan I., Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:15 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was struck by how much they are literally clowns. Andy's paunch is part of the costume, but if you slapped the make up on them you wouldn't have to change their behavior one bit. xpost

― Dan I., Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:16 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is a great observation. I was trying to think of what was so weird and creepy about goaz's performance here, I think you nailed it. I normally love the a&l scenes in the return but where I think it loses something in this mode is when they go for tenderness. the way he like air-nuzzles her gives me the willies

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:35 (two years ago) link

i get that impulse but i was also very skeptical that "the return" was going to be good before it came out and look what happened there

na (NA), Friday, 25 January 2019 15:25 (seven months ago) link

see you in 25 years

mh, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:38 (seven months ago) link

its not happening againg ;_;

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:40 (seven months ago) link

Hold on to hope, guys, maybe Frost will put out another couple of books.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:43 (seven months ago) link

Cosign what everyone said about the week-to-week viewing experience being so great. I don't need more of TP specifically but Lynch is all-time for me and whatever he gets done, if anything, I will watch.

re-watching the Return all in one concentrated go, it was interesting how straightforward it all felt! Like from week-to-week it was more baffling but when you're just rolling through it it all seems very coherent, even obvious - at least until the end.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:43 (seven months ago) link

Still haven't rewatched The Return since that week-to-week odyssey, but what you say is imo true for Lynch's work in general. The first time or two I'm reeling as I try to reconfigure my brain to Lynch's perspective and then everything just clicks on subsequent viewings.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:46 (seven months ago) link

well

its probably a lot to do with knowing second time around whether there even was a plotline, let alone knowing which aspects were and weren't sidelines to one

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:58 (seven months ago) link

Having read the McKenna bio Lynch co-authored, I highly doubt he'll even make another film. The script he has completed sounds fascinating (Antelope Don't Run No More), would love to see that - but there's one detail from the book I keep thinking of... Lynch waking up from a nap, not knowing where he was, tired & sick, calling his girlfriend "I'm so tired. Everyone here is younger than me."

flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:04 (seven months ago) link

lynch otm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:07 (seven months ago) link

the fact that i didn't enjoy the return has became a bit of a millstone around my neck whenever it comes up in conversation. everyone loved it apparently.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:18 (seven months ago) link

for once I'm not trying to challop :c

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:18 (seven months ago) link

FWIW I wouldn't be inclined to quibble with someone who didn't dig a Lynch joint. It's like telling someone to smile. You feel it or you don't.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:25 (seven months ago) link

iirc my first ilx post is literally "lynch fans are poseurs lying to themselves and god"

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:27 (seven months ago) link

wondering today if I could shove a fork in the electrical outlet here to restore what the parts of myself that seem to be lost

mh, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:25 (seven months ago) link

Also coincidentally as I was typing this the twin peaks theme came on the radio!

― gray say nah to me (wins), Friday, January 25, 2019 12:30 PM

I glanced at this and for a second thought there was going to be a new season made for radio.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 January 2019 19:47 (seven months ago) link

This is the water

gray say nah to me (wins), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:50 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

This guy

The teen who egged the fascist is a twin peaks the return fan pic.twitter.com/g3Nrr1wTG7

— Drake Motel (@drakemotel) March 17, 2019

Alba, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:58 (five months ago) link

:(

It has come to my attention that, despite indications otherwise, this is not an egg boy retweet. I am, of course, devastated, but I am also holding out hope that there are several Will Connollys wandering this earth, after they were split apart at the Black Lodge

— Drake Motel (@drakemotel) March 18, 2019

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:01 (five months ago) link

We need a video of the egging set to that blunted beatz track

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:23 (five months ago) link

“My name is David Lynch and this is my MasterClass.”

🎥 https://t.co/gRKNAoSazO#DavidLynch #TheArtLife pic.twitter.com/VpKJl6NUwL

— Twin Peaks ☡. (@ThatsOurWaldo) March 19, 2019

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:15 (five months ago) link

module 17: the eye of the duck

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:18 (five months ago) link

Egg boy not being a Twin Peaks: The Return fan is his milkshake duck moment for me. :(((

Alba, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:54 (five months ago) link

jolene club remix (BradNelson)
Posted: 25 January 2019 at 14:34:44
wins should write a book about this show

This is likely to be the nicest thing anyone will say about me all year btw 🖤

(Look out for it in 2042)

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:09 (five months ago) link

Oh god the lynch masterclass is real I thought it was a joke

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:33 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

i'm slowly doing a full re-watch as well as checking out Bluray extras for the first time, and some YouTube theory type videos. Bit of fun. These were interesting...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CEB7qoqMAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfLPkZZKEeY

That all probably goes totally against whatever I thought on first viewing, which is all jumbled/half forgotten at this point. Very interesting to think about.

maffew12, Thursday, 4 July 2019 01:28 (two months ago) link

First one better than the second

the salacious inaudible (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 4 July 2019 15:43 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

It is, apparently, two fucking years since the final episode

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 3 September 2019 22:57 (one week ago) link

jesus

after reuploading/republishing the pod I've been itching to do a full rewatch. Caught a screening of 1/2/8 at the Lightbox a few weeks back which was dope

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 September 2019 02:53 (one week ago) link

The Diane podcast has stared going over s3 again, episode by episode. I haven't rewatched it recently, but it's so nice to be thrown back into that world

https://diane.libsyn.com/twin-peaks-episode-30-my-log-has-a-message-for-you

Alba, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 07:09 (one week ago) link

I'd sort of like to do a 5-year anniversary thing if I get the sense we could coax a cool guest or two, but that's all I'm ready to think about doing lol

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 September 2019 07:21 (one week ago) link

Unboxing video of that new ltd ed box or gtfo

(Unboxing vids do kinda have the feel of something Lynch would do)

YouGov to see it (wins), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 09:50 (one week ago) link

jesus

after reuploading/republishing the pod I've been itching to do a full rewatch. Caught a screening of 1/2/8 at the Lightbox a few weeks back which was dope


It’s lowkey criminal that a dcp of the entire thing exists that is specially mixed by dl for the cinema and afaik it has only been exhibited once ever

YouGov to see it (wins), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 09:53 (one week ago) link

What's different about that version? What would you like to see done with it? How could it even be released? Longest ever iTunes store movie?

I hope I can find the few extras from the new Blu-ray online sometime. I'm not buying all of it again!

maffew12, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 16:52 (one week ago) link

My understanding is, just as I said in my post: Lynch has remixed the sound for cinemas

What I’d like to see done with it I thought was also clear: I’d like for it to be exhibited more than once ever. I (and others too, I reckon) would be up for seeing it in a theatre, without having to travel to New York/January 2018 to do so

YouGov to see it (wins), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:02 (one week ago) link

there could be a weird motel you walk into that leads you into New York, January 2018

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 18:51 (one week ago) link

sorry, this was quite a poor effort on my part. I even had to Google "dcp". Best of luck in your endeavor to bankrupt movie houses

maffew12, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 21:32 (one week ago) link

I think wins wants it to be available in cinemas, meaning he'd be paying to see it live?

(dcp meaning the digital release that is sent directly to theaters in place of film reels in the current time)

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 22:15 (one week ago) link

I'll see you at the curtain call

maffew12, Wednesday, 4 September 2019 22:20 (one week ago) link

The moma screening was free! Also, split across several nights. Here in the uk there’s a pretty expensive 3-day festival for fans of this series and it always sells out insanely quickly, I might be wrong but I reckon if a movie house put this on as a special event at an appropriate price it wouldn’t lead to bankruptcy

I was being (lowkey) hyperbolic when I said “lowkey criminal” I don’t think anyone should be arrested for not screening this every weekend until they go bust, I was just trying to say it would be cool to see it

YouGov to see it (wins), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 22:44 (one week ago) link

I demand it be screened every weekend

untuned mass damper (mh), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 23:28 (one week ago) link

imo screening two episodes a week would be an excellent way for an arthouse cinema to show this

quelle sprocket damage (sic), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 23:46 (one week ago) link

dougy jones was made for imax

Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 4 September 2019 23:53 (one week ago) link

9 eps per day over one weekend or bust

Simon H., Wednesday, 4 September 2019 23:57 (one week ago) link

when I first saw it I had to watch each episode twice in a row, there was so much to take in

Dan S, Thursday, 5 September 2019 00:09 (one week ago) link

I capped off summer 2017 weekends watching this with the girl I would later get engaged to that fall at Salish Lodge (aka the real Great Northern).

Chris L, Thursday, 5 September 2019 00:49 (one week ago) link

:)

always wanted to visit Snoqualmie

Dan S, Thursday, 5 September 2019 00:53 (one week ago) link

it makes me happy that that happened to you, Chris L!

Dan S, Thursday, 5 September 2019 01:15 (one week ago) link

Thank you, Dan! I certainly could have never imagined it.

Chris L, Thursday, 5 September 2019 01:52 (one week ago) link

sorry, this was quite a poor effort on my part. I even had to Google "dcp". Best of luck in your endeavor to bankrupt movie houses

― maffew12, Wednesday, September 4, 2019 5:32 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah because they're doing great showing Siodmak noirs and Visconti melodramas. there are usually like 10 people at the revival series I go to. whenever they're anything DL related, they clean up. tons of people. they could show the entire S3 in installments over a month and make more than they ever would with Chinatown or whatever A24 has out now.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:05 (five days ago) link

still, i for one welcome any and all support in my continuing endeavor to bankrupt movie houses

I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 18:12 (five days ago) link


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