Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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Halfway through. This should take us to the bittersweet end.

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:31 (one year ago) Permalink

SOILER

BOB is a cylon

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:33 (one year ago) Permalink

That you can only see if you're high on the drugs.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:33 (one year ago) Permalink

What are you talking about, there are no drugs in this season, just a couple of alcoholics

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Few can see him: the gifted... and the daaaaamn dude how much did you take?

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:41 (one year ago) Permalink

wow you guys are hilarious remind me to never write a post in 1 minute without thinking it through before a bunch of know it alls jump down my throat

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:44 (one year ago) Permalink

fuck me for writing a few sentences about a tv show at lunch time and not being consistent. what a horrible, stupid person i am

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:44 (one year ago) Permalink

Time for a new thread guys

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:46 (one year ago) Permalink

We did our best.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:46 (one year ago) Permalink

nobody called you horrible or stupid Adam, ppl are just goofin

anyway this show is awesome

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:48 (one year ago) Permalink

really wish there were some animated gifs from ep 8 that I could use as a screensaver or something

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 15:48 (one year ago) Permalink

I made this thread to get off that subject!

I love how much Briggs there was in the last episode. You can feel how much both lynch and frost really love the character. Charlotte Stewart, although she had v little to do in the original series, is part of Lynch's Eraserhead family along with the much-missed nance & coulson, and I remember Dana ashbrook saying in interviews that he always looked upon Stewart and Davis as surrogate parents; this all comes through v strongly in the chair scene. It's also interesting to think that the Briggses are very devout Catholics (this is emphasised again in the missing pieces although it's played somewhat for laughs which is a slight return to the s1 characterisation of garland as the pompous, oblivious parent) - their faith feels key to understanding garland's message, given just before he "died", and Betty's just accepting what she had to have known was a farewell & subsequently keeping the secret till the right time.

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 16:59 (one year ago) Permalink

huh I must've missed/forgotten the Catholic stuff

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:01 (one year ago) Permalink

I only know the denomination because the frost book makes a big point of it but their Christianity was in the first season & in the missing pieces he's reading aloud to Betty from the book of revelations at the dinner table(!)

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:11 (one year ago) Permalink

I didn't realize until embarrassingly recently that that was Charlotte Stewart in Eraserhead (which I've seen at least as many times as I've seen any of the Twin Peaks episodes she was in).

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:11 (one year ago) Permalink

he reads from the book of revelation. that's all i remember regarding him and religiosity.

xp. are we considering the frost book as canon? i wouldn't personally

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:19 (one year ago) Permalink

I think of Frost's book as another facet of the TP jewel. Its perspective (not to mention some of the pertinent details) doesn't quite jibe with that of the show but it's an intersting alternate take.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Which is basically Lynch's stated perspective on it, as well, iirc.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:27 (one year ago) Permalink

Lynch and frost are both like "canon schmanon" which is kinda my attitude too but I think we can get an idea of his conception of the character from the book

In general tho I feel like the log lady introductions and palmer family interview are more relevant than the book even though they can't logically exist in the world of the show

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:28 (one year ago) Permalink

thanks to the allure of the ridiculous amazon prime day, I have given in and will be reading the Secret History book this weekend

what have you people done to me

mh, Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:30 (one year ago) Permalink

I think of Frost's book as another facet of the TP jewel. Its perspective (not to mention some of the pertinent details) doesn't quite jibe with that of the show but it's an intersting alternate take.

Yeah this basically. All the books are like different approaches to the same story. Even with fwwm I remember reading that lynch told a member of the crew re discontinuity (hairstyles, locations, weather, you name it) "think of it as a parallel universe"

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:31 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd just got used to where the tp link was in my list of bookmarks, damn it!

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Thursday, 13 July 2017 17:42 (one year ago) Permalink

important erratum: in the previous thread where we were discussing that Crossroads film which seems like an important influence on the nuke sequence in episode 8, i said that the Terry Riley album that was very similar to his score to Crossroads was Persian Surgery Dervishes, but it's not, I meant to say Descending Moonshine Dervishes. I don't even own Persian Surgery Dervishes. As you were!

or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:15 (one year ago) Permalink

sorry mr. lynch pic.twitter.com/ZICATyxBwP

— Chris Person (@Papapishu) July 12, 2017

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Showtime says the show is averaging around 2 million viewers across all platforms.
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/07/twin-peaks-ratings-2017-season-4-game-of-thrones-1201853930/

Chris L, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:41 (one year ago) Permalink

is that good or bad

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:43 (one year ago) Permalink

I think that's very good in terms of the viewership of today.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:46 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm picturing Gordon yelling, "These are some good numbers, Tammy!"

mh, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:47 (one year ago) Permalink

it's not bad from what I know, but I also could not give less of a shit either way, can't imagine there'll be more episodes after this in any case

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:48 (one year ago) Permalink

don't really see this as competition with GoT which I would think has a totally different (and stupider) audience

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:49 (one year ago) Permalink

just gettin some ad homs in for laffs there

Οὖτις, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:49 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm picturing Gordon yelling, "These are some good numbers, Tammy!"

― mh, Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:47 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 13 July 2017 18:51 (one year ago) Permalink

Seems like Showtime is genuinely pleased, so good enough.

Chris L, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:02 (one year ago) Permalink

I mean on the off chance they greenlight On the Air: The Return.

Chris L, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:03 (one year ago) Permalink

oh yeah game of thrones that reminds me

sky atlantic is gonna simulcast it which means they're not gonna simulcast twin peaks any more, it's gonna be on at 3am instead of 2am :-(

(still gonna watch it then obv)

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:06 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm on the hook for a GoT viewing at my neighbors' sunday night which means I have to ask my Twin Peaks team to postpone to Monday night

I do not prefer this, needless to say

or at night (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:09 (one year ago) Permalink

I did not realize GoT was going to be airing at the same time as TP. That seems unnecessarily prickish of HBO.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:14 (one year ago) Permalink

Andy and Lucy are really reminiscent of something about the French clowning tradition. On the Air had a lot of the same feel to it, too. Can't put my finger on it--the way they're "funny" instead of actually being funny.

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:15 (one year ago) Permalink

shrug, nobody watches tp live anyway as documented above so whatever

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:16 (one year ago) Permalink

xp

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Was struck by how much they are literally clowns. Andy's paunch is part of the costume, but if you slapped the make up on them you wouldn't have to change their behavior one bit. xpost

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:16 (one year ago) Permalink

why would Showtime's competition be concerned anyway? GoT is a juggernaut, i doubt HBO's much concerned about what else happens to be airing at the time.

xpsss

circa1916, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:17 (one year ago) Permalink

I did not realize GoT was going to be airing at the same time as TP. That seems unnecessarily prickish of HBO.

pretty sure they're airing it at the same time as the last 6 seasons.

my plan is to watch GoT and then TP, in that order, on sunday nights. it's really hard to do the other way around.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:18 (one year ago) Permalink

What shows before TP Sundays on Showtime?

Dan I., Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:19 (one year ago) Permalink

the previous week's tp, by the look of it

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:27 (one year ago) Permalink

also looks like they're changing the time - starting in august it'll be on an hour earlier. 8pm there, 1am here

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:29 (one year ago) Permalink

TP is the first show in ages that I've made the effort to watch as its airing.

Dippin' Sauce on my Nice New Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:31 (one year ago) Permalink

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Johnny2.jpg

kinda haunted by this shot. happened so quickly i barely noticed the photo.

circa1916, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:34 (one year ago) Permalink

oops

http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Johnny2.jpg

circa1916, Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:34 (one year ago) Permalink

Andy and Lucy are really reminiscent of something about the French clowning tradition. On the Air had a lot of the same feel to it, too. Can't put my finger on it--the way they're "funny" instead of actually being funny.

― Dan I., Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:15 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was struck by how much they are literally clowns. Andy's paunch is part of the costume, but if you slapped the make up on them you wouldn't have to change their behavior one bit. xpost

― Dan I., Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:16 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is a great observation. I was trying to think of what was so weird and creepy about goaz's performance here, I think you nailed it. I normally love the a&l scenes in the return but where I think it loses something in this mode is when they go for tenderness. the way he like air-nuzzles her gives me the willies

blog haus aka the scene raver (wins), Thursday, 13 July 2017 19:35 (one year ago) Permalink

idk man he was cheating on his wife and gambling to the point where people were threatening his life?

by kind of an asshole i think i mean whatever cosmic depression he felt bc he was an empty shell def negatively affected the other people in his life

fundamentally mediocre human seems right on

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:23 (one year ago) Permalink

He was also involved in a criminal conspiracy let's not forget!

Also both tulpas experienced fugue states

scrüt (wins), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:27 (one year ago) Permalink

yeah fundamentally mediocre is otm

But in a way that only underscores the sweetness of that whole arc. Here's a guy who's contributed very little to the world, and actively been a burden for a lot of people, yet more or less everybody helps him out anyway. They feel a sense of responsibility for him, and even show considerable affection for him. Reminds me a bit of the Straight Story arc of "here's a guy who meets people, and everybody he meets is really nice and helpful." Very effective contrast to the sourness and brutality of what's happening at the same time in TP

Evan R, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:30 (one year ago) Permalink

Original Douglas Jones is also interesting because he too is Dale Cooper

scrüt (wins), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 19:31 (one year ago) Permalink

Let’s not forget the obvious dementia metaphor of Coop-as-Dougie. The protraction deliberately provokes a heightened sense of loss, and yes frustration / irritation that this apparently normal looking person is still not “himself”. We watch him like hawks, desperate for the slightest flicker of his old self.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:07 (one year ago) Permalink

spot on. That all hits really, really close to home

Evan R, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 20:12 (one year ago) Permalink

^^

yeah, i think that's really well put

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:24 (one year ago) Permalink

Yep, and again this is all upthread(s) - and not that there should be too much of a biographical emphasis but frost's dad was dying of Alzheimer's and lynch was practically non-verbal into his early 20s & an anxiety about language/communication is a constant feature of his work going back to the alphabet, so there are plenty of reasons they might be interested in exploring this story beyond "it's their idea of a good wheeze"

scrüt (wins), Tuesday, 6 February 2018 21:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Nobody else here probably cares about the giant's phonograph sound (i posted about it in either this or the other thread but was of course totally wrong), but someone figured it out (months ago, but I'd missed it until now): https://youtu.be/dMuzMU2u04o

It's the sound of Laura unlocking her diary from a FWWM missing pieces scene, around 13 secs into this clip.

check out the positioning of her hands as she retrieves the key, too...

Dan I., Sunday, 11 February 2018 22:34 (one year ago) Permalink

whoa, the hands!

akm, Sunday, 11 February 2018 23:20 (one year ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

The Return was a masterclass in amping up expectations, it takes about 17 episodes to progress Coop beyond the finale of S2 and his efforts to undo Laura's demise. Finale shot with Laura hearing Leland and then screaming confirmed that we can't have nice things, the purgatory continues

kolakube (Ross), Sunday, 4 March 2018 10:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Watching THE WRONG MAN and realized Lynch lifted this shot for the end of the new Twin Peaks 😳 pic.twitter.com/5UYlbJpjIj

— Nicky Smith (@MUGGER1992) March 8, 2018

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 March 2018 05:17 (one year ago) Permalink

We had to go to a wedding this weekend and we kept saying “wwiiiith this ring iiiii theeeee wed” to random people.

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 8 March 2018 05:21 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

TWIN PEAKS fans, I am proud to present “Damn Fine Coffee,” a record of the TWIN PEAKS fan theory presentation at @SplitScreensTV festival. If you love Lynch/Frost’s masterpiece, you will want to set aside time for this. Play it LOUD if you can. https://t.co/tNylW1xGul pic.twitter.com/yZbfXwZzmA

— MZS (@mattzollerseitz) June 10, 2018



Some of these are pretty fun

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Monday, 11 June 2018 22:21 (eleven months ago) Permalink

Also, the ppl who made the jack nance doc are trying to make a film about Catherine Coulson

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/historyofcool/i-know-catherine-the-log-lady

U. K. Le Garage (wins), Monday, 11 June 2018 22:23 (eleven months ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

I read someone describe Laura's scream at the end as "blowing out the flame of the demon", and it explains why I disagree with the ending being definitely interpreted as a failure or loss.

Dan I., Friday, 25 January 2019 04:07 (four months ago) Permalink

i miss this show

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 04:19 (four months ago) Permalink

My wife and I rewatched The Return for the first time again. We loved it the first time around and loved it even more this time, getting through it in less than a week. Would love to see it come back again, but I guess the chances are very slim.

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:17 (four months ago) Permalink

i miss this show

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, January 24, 2019 8:19 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Clay, Friday, 25 January 2019 09:56 (four months ago) Permalink

Yeah. I’ve seen a few people get excited about a possible new season based on some vague evasive response Lynch gave in some interview but I highly doubt we get any more tbh - the surviving cast & crew would be up for it, I think showtime would put up the money again, and even though it feels pretty complete I have faith that Lynch & Frost could cook up something, but reading the biography it’s pretty clear that working on the return took a pretty drastic toll on Lynch (not to mention his marriage). He was basically sick for the entire shoot, I just don’t see him taking on another project of this scale any time soon. It seems like he’ll keep directing if he can get funding from Netflix or whoever but something tells me his next thing will be a different beast altogether. Which is fine, I can be content with “only” sixteen and a half new hours of miraculous tv, but of course I’d love to experience something of this quality on a weekly basis again.

gray say nah to me (wins), Friday, 25 January 2019 12:21 (four months ago) Permalink

Also coincidentally as I was typing this the twin peaks theme came on the radio!

It made me think of the opening credits with the drone shots of the falls and the whirling red room and how they managed to completely change the way you experience such a familiar piece of music: no longer stately but vertiginous

gray say nah to me (wins), Friday, 25 January 2019 12:30 (four months ago) Permalink

miraculous is rly the word isnt it

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 12:56 (four months ago) Permalink

wins should write a book about this show

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 14:34 (four months ago) Permalink

i'm happy with Twin Peaks being left alone. that was the way to go out.

but yeah, i don't see any reason why guy couldn't get the dough from Netflix or similar for a new film or mini-series if he's got ideas. they're throwing money everywhere and a new Lynch project is guaranteed to get eyes.

circa1916, Friday, 25 January 2019 14:58 (four months ago) Permalink

i don't want or expect this show to get picked up again, it ends perfectly, i just miss the experience of regularly watching something this great, like being hypnotized and led into another world for an hour each week

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 15:10 (four months ago) Permalink

no kidding
it was heavenly

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 25 January 2019 15:17 (four months ago) Permalink

i get that impulse but i was also very skeptical that "the return" was going to be good before it came out and look what happened there

na (NA), Friday, 25 January 2019 15:25 (four months ago) Permalink

see you in 25 years

mh, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:38 (four months ago) Permalink

its not happening againg ;_;

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:40 (four months ago) Permalink

Hold on to hope, guys, maybe Frost will put out another couple of books.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:43 (four months ago) Permalink

Cosign what everyone said about the week-to-week viewing experience being so great. I don't need more of TP specifically but Lynch is all-time for me and whatever he gets done, if anything, I will watch.

re-watching the Return all in one concentrated go, it was interesting how straightforward it all felt! Like from week-to-week it was more baffling but when you're just rolling through it it all seems very coherent, even obvious - at least until the end.

Οὖτις, Friday, 25 January 2019 16:43 (four months ago) Permalink

Still haven't rewatched The Return since that week-to-week odyssey, but what you say is imo true for Lynch's work in general. The first time or two I'm reeling as I try to reconfigure my brain to Lynch's perspective and then everything just clicks on subsequent viewings.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:46 (four months ago) Permalink

well

its probably a lot to do with knowing second time around whether there even was a plotline, let alone knowing which aspects were and weren't sidelines to one

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 16:58 (four months ago) Permalink

Having read the McKenna bio Lynch co-authored, I highly doubt he'll even make another film. The script he has completed sounds fascinating (Antelope Don't Run No More), would love to see that - but there's one detail from the book I keep thinking of... Lynch waking up from a nap, not knowing where he was, tired & sick, calling his girlfriend "I'm so tired. Everyone here is younger than me."

flappy bird, Friday, 25 January 2019 17:04 (four months ago) Permalink

lynch otm

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:07 (four months ago) Permalink

the fact that i didn't enjoy the return has became a bit of a millstone around my neck whenever it comes up in conversation. everyone loved it apparently.

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:18 (four months ago) Permalink

for once I'm not trying to challop :c

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:18 (four months ago) Permalink

FWIW I wouldn't be inclined to quibble with someone who didn't dig a Lynch joint. It's like telling someone to smile. You feel it or you don't.

E Pluripubis Unum (Old Lunch), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:25 (four months ago) Permalink

iirc my first ilx post is literally "lynch fans are poseurs lying to themselves and god"

topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 25 January 2019 17:27 (four months ago) Permalink

wondering today if I could shove a fork in the electrical outlet here to restore what the parts of myself that seem to be lost

mh, Friday, 25 January 2019 18:25 (four months ago) Permalink

Also coincidentally as I was typing this the twin peaks theme came on the radio!

― gray say nah to me (wins), Friday, January 25, 2019 12:30 PM

I glanced at this and for a second thought there was going to be a new season made for radio.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 25 January 2019 19:47 (four months ago) Permalink

This is the water

gray say nah to me (wins), Friday, 25 January 2019 19:50 (four months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

This guy

The teen who egged the fascist is a twin peaks the return fan pic.twitter.com/g3Nrr1wTG7

— Drake Motel (@drakemotel) March 17, 2019

Alba, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 12:58 (two months ago) Permalink

:(

It has come to my attention that, despite indications otherwise, this is not an egg boy retweet. I am, of course, devastated, but I am also holding out hope that there are several Will Connollys wandering this earth, after they were split apart at the Black Lodge

— Drake Motel (@drakemotel) March 18, 2019

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:01 (two months ago) Permalink

We need a video of the egging set to that blunted beatz track

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 13:23 (two months ago) Permalink

“My name is David Lynch and this is my MasterClass.”

🎥 https://t.co/gRKNAoSazO#DavidLynch #TheArtLife pic.twitter.com/VpKJl6NUwL

— Twin Peaks ☡. (@ThatsOurWaldo) March 19, 2019

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:15 (two months ago) Permalink

module 17: the eye of the duck

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:18 (two months ago) Permalink

Egg boy not being a Twin Peaks: The Return fan is his milkshake duck moment for me. :(((

Alba, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 15:54 (two months ago) Permalink

jolene club remix (BradNelson)
Posted: 25 January 2019 at 14:34:44
wins should write a book about this show

This is likely to be the nicest thing anyone will say about me all year btw 🖤

(Look out for it in 2042)

A funny tinge happened on the way to the forum (wins), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 17:09 (two months ago) Permalink

Oh god the lynch masterclass is real I thought it was a joke

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:33 (two months ago) Permalink


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