can i really be the only person watching LA REINA DEL SUR?

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it is trashy and i like it

on the run from mexcio (where her gangster bf was murdered) teresa mendoza is apparently set to become the most powerful drug trafficker in southern spain (at the moment she works in a crappy bar tho)

she is good at ugly-crying, and generally has plenty of reasons to

(season 1 is on netflix uk: season 2 is being made to be shown next year)

mark s, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 20:16 (two years ago) link

ok, I thought I was going crazy after reading the title and synopsis, but no: it's already been remade as an american show and is currently airing right now!

it sounds pretty cool, I have no doubt the original is probably better

mh, Wednesday, 12 July 2017 20:53 (two years ago) link

except in flashbacks she's worn the same jeans and black halter-neck top combo for most of all six eps so far

haha just as i wrote this her current nemesis (female) commented on the same thing

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:18 (two years ago) link

she isn't actually in mainland spain yet, she's in mellila (which is a an autonomous spanish city on the north african coast that i only just heard of (and looked up) now

http://www.worldatlas.com/img/locator/city/014/68906-melilla-locator-map.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:23 (two years ago) link

huh, I kind of want to watch to check that out

for some reason I was researching if there's a cool over land route you can take with public transportation along the north African coast and it turns out if you want to go from Algeria to Morocco, you have to go through another country, like Spain or a neighboring island. The border situation is that contentious

mh, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:26 (two years ago) link

she is proud and spunky

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 20:44 (two years ago) link

her best friend is called fatima and her nemesis (female) is -- somewhat unexpectedly -- called sheila

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:01 (two years ago) link

Voy a cantar un corrido, escuchen muy bien mis compas
Para la reina del sur, traficante muy famosa
Nacida alla en Sinaloa, la Tia Teresa Mendoza
El guero le dijo a tere te dejo mi celular
Cuando lo escuches prietita, no trates de contestar
Es porque ya me torcieron y tu tendras que escapar
El guero Davila era, piloto muy arriesgado
Al cartel de Cuidad Juarez, les hizo muchos mandados
En una avioneta cesna en la sierra lo mataron
Dijo Epifanio Vargas, Teresa vas a escapar
Tengo un amigo en Espaa, alla te puede esperar
Me debe muchos favores y te tendra que ayudar
Cuando llego a Melilla luego le cambio la suerte
Con Don Santiago Fisterra, juntaron bastante gente
Comprando y vendiendo droga para los dos continentes
Manolo Cespedes dijo Teresa es muy arriesgada
Le vende la droga a Francia, Africa, y tambien a Italia
Hasta los rusos le compran es una tia muy pesada
(Supo aprender el acento que se usa por todo Espaa
Demostro su Jerarquia como la mas noble dama
A muchos los sorprendio Teresa la mexicana)
(A veces de piel vestia de su tierra
Se acordaba con bota de cocodrilo
Y avestruz la chamarra
Usaba cinto piteado
Tequila cuando brindaba)
Era la reina del sur
Alla en su tierra natal
Teresa la mexicana, del otro lado del mar
Una mujer muy valiente, que no la van a olvidar
Un dia desaparecio, Teresa la mexicana
Dicen que que esta en la prision, otros que vive en Italia
En California o Miami, de la union Americana

^^^the lyrics to the theme tune, performed by los tigres del norte

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:11 (two years ago) link

i like the way everyone calls her "mexicana"

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:25 (two years ago) link

Is it all Spain-based Spanish speakers other than her?

mh, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:27 (two years ago) link

character-wise there's also mexicans and americans (but they're now mostly out of the story except in flashbacks) and mainland spanish and north-african spanish speakers -- so yes, she's unusual in being (currently)* the only mexican surrounded by spaniards… i assume there's an accent difference that's really obvious to hispanic speakers, i can't hear it but my spanish is literally non-existent

*there's another 60-odd episodes to come!

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 21:54 (two years ago) link

it sounds pretty cool, I have no doubt the original is probably better

Both the original book and Telemundo telenovela are fantastic. Haven't seen any of the new series, but the earlier versions are well worth your time.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:32 (two years ago) link

this is the one i'm watching --> Telemundo telenovela

(new season of same not out till next year i don't think)

mark s, Thursday, 13 July 2017 22:41 (two years ago) link

run teresa run!

aside from being a bit muddling -- lots fo lashbacks and recaps -- LRDS has no unexciting moments so far (tho some of the catfights are a bit kitschy)

mark s, Friday, 14 July 2017 22:43 (two years ago) link

i mean flashbacks

mark s, Friday, 14 July 2017 23:01 (two years ago) link

so (as many know but perhaps not non-mexican speaking ILX):

kate del castillo, the actress who plays teresa mendoza la reina del sur, was who putting sean penn in the same room as EL CHAPO, hence semi-responsible for EC's subsequent capture

inadvertently: she seems to approve of what she sees as EC's robin-hood-like ways (penn she now rather despises, she says his rolling stone piece is full of fibs abt her)

el chapo apparently took to kate del castillo
(a) bcz she tweeted something approving (see above) and
(b) bcz he greatly enjoyed la reina del sur (the correct response) and
(c) felt he could trust the character KdC was playing, hence the actress too (flawed critical praxis IMO, will never commission a TV column from him)

mark s, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:05 (two years ago) link

meanwhile lRdS itself is currently exploring the ethics (and otherwise) of people-trafficking and generally looking more closely at the dynamics of migrancy in the med than a great deal of much fancier TV

mark s, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:07 (two years ago) link

putting s/b put

mark s, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:08 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

been compulsively watching this with my niece for a few weeks and it's at once amazing and sometimes silly. thx for rec! have abt 10 more eps to go and shit is getting really real. and i keep falling in love. first it was Soraya, then Veronica. (so many great characters, too - Batman, Pote, Oleg, Fati)

freedom is not having to measure life with a ruler (outdoor_miner), Friday, 18 August 2017 15:14 (two years ago) link

I liked the sound of this and thought I was downloading a torrent of it. Boo! It turned out to be the poxy American remake. Another series that doesn't get mentioned on here is Gomorrah, which is an ultra-violent trashy crime series, with a cast of some impeccably dressed thugs amongst the ruin pron of the crumbling housing projects in Naples. And the death count is ridiculously high - between S1 and s2 more than half the cast are already in the ground. It is good fun though.

calzino, Friday, 18 August 2017 19:52 (two years ago) link

episode 19 plot summary: "teresa loses again"

mark s, Sunday, 20 August 2017 15:54 (two years ago) link

her boyfs are all gorgeous, also dicks

mark s, Sunday, 20 August 2017 15:55 (two years ago) link

some eps set in a women's prison: assuming dickish and/or dead boys not an issue for a while

mark s, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:01 (two years ago) link

"Lieut.O'Farrell is pure oligarchy, honey"

(also not a lieut., i didn't get that bit)

mark s, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:13 (two years ago) link

it is more o/g cell block h than orange is the new, that's for sure

mark s, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 18:17 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHnemDkHvgA

mark s, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:12 (two years ago) link

actually a better version, fond as i am etc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng-eYklcmEM

mark s, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 18:13 (two years ago) link

paty: "where i walk the grass stops growing"

(self-hate rather than threat)

mark s, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:10 (two years ago) link

I wish someone would upload an English subtitles rip of this in t0rrentland, it sounds awesome.

calzino, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 19:35 (two years ago) link

tbh the subtitles on netflix are intermittent AND wayward

lol, there's more time displacement in this soap than in inland empire

mark s, Thursday, 24 August 2017 18:41 (two years ago) link

i predict paty too will die :{

mark s, Thursday, 24 August 2017 19:34 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

we regret to inform you i am back on my* bullshit

*actually kate del castillo's obv

mark s, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 16:14 (two years ago) link

lol she just had her michael corleone MASS-REVENGE moment: "la mexicana says HI"

mark s, Tuesday, 24 October 2017 17:06 (two years ago) link

^^^this ended p badly (tho we are not yet half way thru the 63 eps of the first series)

mark s, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:31 (two years ago) link

love the way the only person who actually gets the depth of her UNSPOKEN SOULFULNESS is the top russian gangster

mark s, Friday, 27 October 2017 18:33 (two years ago) link

the full name of this character -- usually referred too as pote or el pote -- is POTEMKINE GALVEZ

mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:40 (two years ago) link

"if blood has to rain from the sky, we will open our umbrellas"

mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:50 (two years ago) link

"it's the beginning of the end for teresa mendoza"

we are on ep 38 of 63, so i guess "… but perhaps the end of the beginning" applies here

mark s, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 22:21 (two years ago) link

pati getting very meta in her jealousy: "what shall we call this telenovella? love in the time of narcotraffic?"

(wd watch, obviously) (am watching)

mark s, Saturday, 11 November 2017 17:08 (two years ago) link

"you're as mad as a goat, tesa!"

oleg pleased that teresa is happy (for once) but also worried

mark s, Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:31 (two years ago) link

lots of TV crime dramas and policiers are about migrancy peripherally -- its "problems" as significant plot-driving element etc -- but i've never watched one that centres it the way lRdS does

mark s, Sunday, 12 November 2017 17:46 (two years ago) link

lol at me being taken aback when the chief russian gangster turns out to have beef with communists -- i'm like "i like him, how can he be a czarist?"

he is in fact a murderous drug smuggler albeit one who likes and more importantly understands teresa mendoza (also a gangster)

mark s, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 17:30 (one year ago) link

every three or four eps someone is sure to say "it's the beginning of the end for teresa mendoza"

s1 still has 18 eps to go

mark s, Thursday, 16 November 2017 18:47 (one year ago) link

"my aztec version of the count of monte cristo"

paty is drunk and sad at a party

mark s, Wednesday, 22 November 2017 18:28 (one year ago) link

"gentlemen, the end of teresa mendoza has started"

mark s, Monday, 27 November 2017 20:05 (one year ago) link

lol ambushed by unexpected disappointment every time oleg* disses soviet socialism

*why, bcz he is a GANGSTER

mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:00 (one year ago) link

repeat plot point: that a character is desperately in lust w/someone merely bcz they resemble teresa mendoza physically

mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:14 (one year ago) link

"you're a victim of cocaine!"
"i'm a victim of YOU and your LIES!"

mark s, Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:38 (one year ago) link

"i had to pretend i was in love with you but i fell into my own trap!"

from now on all all scenes of angrily recrimination between loves must take place in a sportscar being driven at high wild speed along a cliff-top road by someone coked out of her head and weeping uncontrollably

mark s, Thursday, 7 December 2017 16:45 (one year ago) link

nope, in the UK, sorry

mark s, Monday, 14 October 2019 09:34 (four weeks ago) link

“there are many coincidences between us”
“is that good or bad?”
teresa shrugs
“weird”

both learning fast that you can’t trust how things pan out (particularly since she doesn’t realise how deep she is in the labyrinth of crookedness around her) and also breaking the mark s heuristic.

Fizzles, Monday, 14 October 2019 19:29 (four weeks ago) link

franklin anderson of the FBI with his business card that identifies him as Cheef Detective is now dead.

Fizzles, Monday, 14 October 2019 20:01 (four weeks ago) link

i’d love to screencap so many scenes in this. teresa sitting opposite a pimp with a lurid purple shirt and a bright yellow globe lamp on the table to take one example just now. the clothes generally are perfect.

then she goes out and gets trashed drinking tequila from a bottle while crying by a fountain.

in fact all the opening scenes in melilla are great. the interior furnishings beat anything you get elsewhere.

oh god it’s just got on to epifanio’s extremely unlikely political career.

some amazing continuity where epifanio and his sister in law are having a conversation at his ranch and it cuts to teresa getting arrested by the most lenient cop in the world before she gets a flight to and lands in madrid at which point it cuts back to continue the conversation at the ranch.

she needs to stop falling for drug movers tho.

Fizzles, Monday, 14 October 2019 20:56 (four weeks ago) link

or smugglers as they’re sometimes called.

Fizzles, Monday, 14 October 2019 21:04 (four weeks ago) link

don't hold your breath (for 60 episodes or more)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:20 (four weeks ago) link

the goth stepsister of the kidnapped daughter, the raging bereaved gangster-gran who trains bulls for bullfighting

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:52 (four weeks ago) link

don't hold your breath (for 60 episodes or more)


well i guess if they will all be so good looking. who knew.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:55 (four weeks ago) link

the two norteamericano drugs cops back in washington, complaining about "bitches" (with the capitol as a handy backdrop)

teresa flying off to moscow: is she going to find POTE :D ?

(can you even fly to moscow from morroco? teresa mendoza can)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:07 (four weeks ago) link

i like the moments when sofia and lupo like each other a bit for a moment, i guess it's classic stockholm syndrome but such strong characters butting heads whatcha gnna do?

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:08 (four weeks ago) link

ok you can fly from morocco to moscow, and she did

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:11 (four weeks ago) link

even on brief acquaintance i can see norteamericano drugs cops are going to be an entire sub genre to themselves in this.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:16 (four weeks ago) link

correct

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:17 (four weeks ago) link

ok i lolled at this absurd and marvellous moscow location but i'm not going to spoiler it sorry

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 20:26 (four weeks ago) link

pancho villa klaxon

(mention not appearance)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:00 (four weeks ago) link

no wait it is a kind of appearance omg (still no spoilers)

mark s, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 21:02 (four weeks ago) link

I found what I assume is half the first epi of S2 on YouTube. Picked up as bril as it left off. I can not wait til u.s. netflix hooks us up. Seriously best show ever

one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 03:31 (four weeks ago) link

fabergé eggs klaxon (when in moscow i guess)

mark s, Friday, 18 October 2019 19:39 (three weeks ago) link

oleg is a different actor now, blander imo :(

(also i realised i was getting pote and oleg muddled upthread, bcz potemkine is a russian name)

mark s, Friday, 18 October 2019 20:06 (three weeks ago) link

e8 was a bit of an emo trudge but e9 has picked up some speed

weirdly this is reminding a bit of buffy s7: super-tough 2nd-gen young women en masse (ok there's three of them, teresa's daughter, the goth and her sister)

mark s, Friday, 18 October 2019 21:07 (three weeks ago) link

oh, i was wondering waht up, but didn't wanna spoiler any more than i already. . .that's too bad abt Oleg, my second fave Russian on the show (after Dima). i recall S1 had a episode or two that were lackluster, then it would get back to the goods. too bad the intro. has changed, imo. watching the band play was one of me and niece's fave parts - the facial expression of the bassist literally made us lol every time.

one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Friday, 18 October 2019 22:33 (three weeks ago) link

sara vidorreta as rocio aljarafe: best goth in a telenovella?

https://i.imgur.com/1xWUt9w.png

the non-goth is her sister paloma (agata clares)

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:47 (three weeks ago) link

also lol at the jules verne-ish turn teresa's and oleg's adventures just took :D :D :D

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 18:49 (three weeks ago) link

and the swell of some russian-sounding choral music when they hurtle from one absurd scrape to another

mark s, Saturday, 19 October 2019 19:21 (three weeks ago) link

"i don't remember you, you're nobody"
"we're the dogs who will feast on your bones"

mark s, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:03 (three weeks ago) link

educational as well as exciting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_crucifixion_legend

mark s, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:08 (three weeks ago) link

the production values and qualoty of film stock have skyrocketed, and it's now set in "the entire world": yet if anything the ambition is even pulpier :)

mark s, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:28 (three weeks ago) link

viz: so far this ep had a v violent middle east scene war scene and a selling drugs in a rave scene and we're less than ten minutes in

mark s, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:33 (three weeks ago) link

i like sofia's watchful patience (so do the scriptwriters and directors, mind you)

mark s, Sunday, 20 October 2019 19:03 (three weeks ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/uPw99oT.jpg

Well, I can't spell jefe.

mick signals, Thursday, 24 October 2019 00:17 (two weeks ago) link

ROMA HOUSE INVASION

juanita does terrific "hold me back! why i oughta… !" (opinion: she oughta)

mark s, Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:11 (two weeks ago) link

the war between prisoner sofia and gaoler morgana is hilarious

mark s, Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:29 (two weeks ago) link

i've been a bit ambivalent abt the WAY higher production values but now and then (roughly once every other ep) when they frame one of the nuttier scenes it's kind of magnificent

this roma funeral by torchlight with all the grieving is a case in point, it's like something out of peter greenaway ffs

mark s, Thursday, 24 October 2019 19:37 (two weeks ago) link

multiple tables turned and yet things don't get better!

mark s, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:21 (two weeks ago) link

(s2e16, for those keeping count or looking forward)

mark s, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:22 (two weeks ago) link

i just watched S1E1 again with a friend to get them on board. i think they were slightly bamboozled. i enjoyed as much if not more the second time around.

on ep10 otherwise. have had a pause due to work and life stuff but aiming to sort my priorities out.

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:33 (two weeks ago) link

i really like S1 production values. watching the earlier day of the dead parade when she’s on the run some of the shots are just stunning in a v mundane way.

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:34 (two weeks ago) link

yes i haven't been able to coax my main TV-watching buddies into co-bingeing :{

mark s, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:38 (two weeks ago) link

mundane way is bad words for what i meant which is that the quite cheap and lurid tv values give it a immediacy and realism.

i *should* know what it’s shot in to give it that effect, but i don’t.

ok i just checked “lensed entirely in digital format” it says here.

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:48 (two weeks ago) link

s2 has a lush HD feel to it, so that the posh locations feel insanely stately and the poorer ones feel art-photographer grungy -- but lunatic nonsense hurtes through both, with not much more than a doorway bead curtain between them, so the immeciacy has become an urgency and the realism is semi-magic

(if it slows down a bit too much sometimes it always picks up speed again, with added wtf acute-angle turns)

mark s, Thursday, 24 October 2019 20:54 (two weeks ago) link

yikes this took a dark turn (e20) :0 :0 :0

mark s, Monday, 28 October 2019 20:45 (two weeks ago) link

oh this telenovela is so good at layering the badness of the ppl involved, and getting you to like and even love the "less bad" ones

mark s, Monday, 28 October 2019 20:54 (two weeks ago) link

things really not going epifanio's way

mark s, Monday, 28 October 2019 21:22 (two weeks ago) link

I LOVE THIS SHOW SO MUCH

mark s, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:17 (one week ago) link

oh that's good to hear
xpost
hopefully that goes for Ratta, too.

i think Dris Larbi is my favorite character name of all-time

one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 21:51 (one week ago) link

wait who is ratta? dris was great

mark s, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:16 (one week ago) link

Ratta is Epifanio's lunatic son

one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:30 (one week ago) link

gotcha!

ramiro is very much not my favourite character but i do like actor salvador zerboni's commitment to seeming to be on ALL the drugs ALL the time

― mark s, Sunday, December 10, 2017 10:20 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

ALL THE DRUGS

https://www.telemundo.com/sites/nbcutelemundo/files/styles/promotional_content_4_3/public/sites/nbcutelemundo/files/images/gallery/2014/02/19/reina_rataseductora01_130514439041_2_0.jpg

― mark s, Sunday, December 10, 2017 11:03 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

mark s, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 22:39 (one week ago) link

because greasing your millstones is what

gotcha!

_ramiro is very much not my favourite character but i do like actor salvador zerboni's commitment to seeming to be on ALL the drugs ALL the time

― mark s, Sunday, December 10, 2017 10:20 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

ALL THE DRUGS

🖼

― mark s, Sunday, December 10, 2017 11:03 PM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink_


there’s an amazing moment in S1 where, on his way yet again to kill teresa, he pauses to check his gum and wipe his nose in the car wingmirror. it’s these sorts of details where LRDS really gets you.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 November 2019 23:01 (one week ago) link

oh teresa why are you always horny for the worst (also prettiest) people

mark s, Thursday, 7 November 2019 21:03 (six days ago) link


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