Let's all laugh at the Universal Dark Universe

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They keep muttering about this thing, and that Mummy reboot is supposed to kick it off, there are other movies already in the works. And now!

http://io9.gizmodo.com/universal-adds-phantom-of-the-opera-and-hunchback-of-no-1795853130

Alex Kurtzman, writer-director behind The Mummy, recently revealed to Fandom that “We know we’re going to do Frankenstein, Bride of Frankenstein, Dracula, Creature from the Black Lagoon, Phantom of the Opera, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Invisible Man.”

Avengers assemble! No wait...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:17 (three years ago) link

isn't there a thread already or was that just for nu-mummy...

scott seward, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:22 (three years ago) link

Yeah I thought there was, but my searching didn't turn it up.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:25 (three years ago) link

All I can think of is that this has been at Universal Orlando since it opened in 1990 and has barely changed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal%27s_Horror_Make-Up_Show

Sutcliffe Juugin' (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:27 (three years ago) link

otm

he's also fouled up with NON-FAT (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 18:38 (three years ago) link

Looking forward to the 2024 slate of Renfield vs. Igor, Mohel of Frankenstein, and Abbott & Costello Meet the Scorpion King.

Now that's dark!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 19:10 (three years ago) link

How can you improve on creature from the black lagoon

Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 22:37 (three years ago) link

CGI, duh.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 22:56 (three years ago) link

Also, not dark enough.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 22:57 (three years ago) link

On the plus side: original already 3D!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 22:57 (three years ago) link

Time to add another D.

Ha, the website gives me strong 90s movie website vibes, all the way down to seeming to be made for 800x600 resolution.
The video under "Monsters legacy" that just consists of short clips from various old Universal horror movies is really good though, making them all look supremely entertaining. Shame they've dubbed in some super-corny epic music. I've hardly seen any of those old movies, but now I'd rather like to.

So, am I understanding it right that they're making new movies of various old horror characters, and then adding on some damned plot arc that ties the movies together? So we'll get Frankenstein drowning a girl in the black lagoon while the Phantom of the Opera plays "Come Sail Away"? Gosh.
Hope Robin Hood and Zorro will get to duel at some point.

Rimsky-Koskenkorva (Øystein), Tuesday, 6 June 2017 23:28 (three years ago) link

I just hope that this venture is enough of a failure that they don't dip any deeper into the post-classic monster era than Creature. No one needs The Mole People: Tokyo Drift or Monster on the Online Campus.

So, am I understanding it right that they're making new movies of various old horror characters, and then adding on some damned plot arc that ties the movies together?

That's my understanding. But it's also my understanding that they already kinda attempted this with Van Helsing (not to mention a slew of increasingly-unsuccessful crossover sequels back in the day). And then there's the thing where they've already put out a couple of remakes in recent years but no seriously this is the one where everything starts coming together.

That Kong Island thing looked to be the start of a monster series too. Was that the post credits scene I was the only one in my screening to hang around for or was it before?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 6 June 2017 23:57 (three years ago) link

If they had the imagination to update these as horrifying metaphorical ways to explore decaying infrastructure and police racism and despair deaths and random terror that plague our society, this could all be awesome, but that's not what they're going to do

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 00:04 (three years ago) link

and it's not like it would take a lot of imagination to do that for all of these!

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 00:10 (three years ago) link

yes turn movies into the news what a great idea it will take no imagination at all

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 00:16 (three years ago) link

what did I do to your breakfast cereal now?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 00:19 (three years ago) link

Yes, Stevolende, King Kong vs. Godzilla is go. We do indeed have competing monsterverses.

Prince & the Yearbook Committee - '2cool2B4gotten' b/w 'LYLAS' (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 01:46 (three years ago) link

the Kong Godzilla thing is weird considering the extreme variation in tone between the two new movies

Number None, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 06:18 (three years ago) link

otm it's like alien vs dangermouse

K-hole MacLachlan (wins), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 06:27 (three years ago) link

irl there are different tones guys idkwtsty

D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 07:34 (three years ago) link

v true and it's refreshing to see a King Kong vs Godzilla movie that reflects that reality

K-hole MacLachlan (wins), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 08:04 (three years ago) link

alien vs dangermouse

would watch tbf

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 08:25 (three years ago) link

But it's also my understanding that they already kinda attempted this with Van Helsing (not to mention a slew of increasingly-unsuccessful crossover sequels back in the day).

they did it with dracula untold a couple of years ago and then when it tanked they were like 'lol j/k next one's the real start of the shared universe, for realsies this time honest'

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 08:29 (three years ago) link

If they had the imagination to update these as horrifying metaphorical ways to explore decaying infrastructure and police racism and despair deaths and random terror that plague our society, this could all be awesome, but that's not what they're going to do

can we start a petition to put tombot in charge of these pls

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 08:30 (three years ago) link

Never said I wasn't on board for alien vs dangermouse tbf I was just agreeing that it's weird

K-hole MacLachlan (wins), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 08:32 (three years ago) link

shame we're gonna have to wait for ridley scott to die before it happens

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 08:35 (three years ago) link

Frankly, I would love it if they ditched the conservatism and went for a bunch of wild and disparate styles with these things (e.g. a sleazy low-budget Cohen/Henenlotter-esque Wolfman, a taut and hyper-stylized political thriller Invisible Man, a crazy psychedelic neo-giallo Frankenstein) instead of the 'grey and foreboding boilerplate action movie with a single translucent coat of horror' template that they clearly will be using to punch these things out.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 10:27 (three years ago) link

Wake me when we have Dracula vs. Kong.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:25 (three years ago) link

universal also owns the rights to the fast and furious series, just sayin'

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:42 (three years ago) link

Frankenstein Drift

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 11:52 (three years ago) link

god i very badly wanna see vin diesel scrap with the creature from the black lagoon

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:00 (three years ago) link

FYI for those unaware, the next film in the saga is Bride of Frankenstein. Before they've made a Dark Universe version of Frankenstein, yes. And they apparently do have Phantom of the Opera and the Hunchback of Notre Dame lined up. I kinda don't even know what to say. Good luck, I guess?

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:11 (three years ago) link

I do hope that there's a slew of quickie rip-off adaptations of these public domain properties released around the same time that totally muddy the waters of this endeavor.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:16 (three years ago) link

phantom and hunchback aren't even really canonical 'universal monsters' ffs

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:17 (three years ago) link

I do hope that there's a slew of quickie rip-off adaptations of these public domain properties released around the same time that totally muddy the waters of this endeavor.

ilx pre-covers the universal dark universe?

alcohol aficionado zane lamprey (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:18 (three years ago) link

Why not! Dust off your camcorders, folks.

Sir Isaac Gluten (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 12:46 (three years ago) link

I want a movie in which Mary Shelley, Bram Stoker, H. G. Wells, R. L. Stevenson, Victor Hugo, and Gaston Leroux are awakened from the grave to reclaim their intellectual property.

jmm, Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:17 (three years ago) link

yes turn movies into the news what a great idea it will take no imagination at all

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, June 6, 2017 8:16 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Right? When have monster movies or horror films ever dealt with the cultural zeitgeist or deep-seated social anxieties? The George Romero "Dead" movies were not in any way metaphorical, nor was the original "Godzilla."

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:23 (three years ago) link

"The Host" also had nothing whatsoever to say about American militarism and imperialism, it was just a monster movie and THAT'S ALL.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 13:29 (three years ago) link

I mean, also, they'll probably manage to mess up the psychological metaphors that are there already in the classic films

Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:33 (three years ago) link

By changing things around a bit but not enough, so as with most re-makes you end up with slop

Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:34 (three years ago) link

^ Trenchant

Never changed username before (cardamon), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:34 (three years ago) link

wat if Frankenstein but made by isis

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:38 (three years ago) link

dotor jekyll but good 1 is bad

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:40 (three years ago) link

the untold story of vlad the impaler, loosely based on count chocula

I would like to see a Count Chocula film played completely straight. The full origin story of how Chocula, once a man, became a creature of the night with an unquenchable thirst for chocolate. Very grim, very dark. Like 98% cacao dark.

The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T & the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:34 (three years ago) link

Budget for 98% cacao prohibitive. Plus, not enough dark chocolate consumption in China.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:45 (three years ago) link

The Ottomans want to impose their Turkish delights on Christendom. That's a movie.

jmm, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:05 (three years ago) link

sold

I would like to see a Count Chocula film played completely straight. The full origin story of how Chocula, once a man, became a creature of the night with an unquenchable thirst for chocolate. Very grim, very dark. Like 98% cacao dark.

we live in a world where riverdale exists so

It would have been really easy to make a scary Mummy movie. Like, a found footage trapped in a tomb movie (I'm sure it's been done). Or basically, It Follows, but a Mummy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 June 2017 17:20 (three years ago) link

but then you can't do them faithfully because every single one of them is now a knackered, wheezing cliche in the popular imagination

― cast your vote for fully automated gay space luxury communism (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 16:58

And King Kong or Godzilla isn't? (In theory, any remake can be done well. In practice, Sturgeon's Law is in full effect.)

The Ottomans want to impose their Turkish delights on Christendom. That's a movie.

― jmm, Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:05 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You are Steve Bannon and I claim my five pounds.

Diana Fire (j.lu), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:02 (three years ago) link

yes, you're describing this movie:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pyramid_(film)

xposts

Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 June 2017 19:14 (three years ago) link

^image nicked from the Facebook page of film critic John Charles

Bernie Lugg (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 15 June 2017 18:44 (three years ago) link

you can't do them faithfully because every single one of them is now a knackered, wheezing cliche in the popular imagination

no, this is the kind of thinking that has resulted in so many forgettable re-imaginings that imo the original designs are novel again. if they went full-on og Frankenstein w slightly updated take on the classic look, they could make it work. look at Monster Squad, they brought back all the classic monsters and made them work, even the mummy was made creepy again w the trapped in that closet. they just need people who can write a decent movie.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 15 June 2017 19:19 (three years ago) link

It's always been frustrating because I'm all about the classic/gothic horror aesthetic, it's probably 80% of the reason I like horror but there's really not that many good scripts in the films. And whenever there's a return to it, the stories are usually hackneyed. There's no reason you have to keep using those plots.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 15 June 2017 20:04 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

As the story notes, it's likely going the deep prequel route instead...but is it?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 October 2017 23:05 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

The Dark Universe is dead, long live (to quote Variety) “a fresh strategy for the Universal monsters properties, bringing creative directors with distinctive visions to the classic characters.”

https://io9.gizmodo.com/a-new-invisible-man-film-rises-as-the-dark-universe-die-1832124202

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:04 (one year ago) link

Aw, does this mean we'll never get to see Seth Rogen as Lou Costello?

Brex Avery (Noodle Vague), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:09 (one year ago) link

Can't wait to consume the fresh content generated by the Universal Synergisticdiversificationverse!

That shitty promo photo for this will never not be funny

gray say nah to me (wins), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:20 (one year ago) link

Johnny Depp was the actor originally expected to play the Invisible Man, and though he is not thought to be part of this movie, Variety’s sources suggest it could happen in the future. The same goes for actors like Javier Bardem and even Cruise’s character: They could appear in future movies, but it’s not definite. For now, the idea is to encourage individual filmmakers to make great movies, and see what happens.

they will not appear in future movies

omar little, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:25 (one year ago) link

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2017/05/31/31-universal-monsterverse-dark-universe.w700.h700.jpg

Ah yes, all your faves - there’s the mummy of course, and the Dracula, and the wolf man, and that must be the Frankenstein sitting down there, and who’s that on the end? Oh, how could I forget, the black lagoon!

Oh no wait it’s five checked-out randos. Can’t fucking wait for them to cross over with each other.

gray say nah to me (wins), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:25 (one year ago) link

Russell Crowe with the expression of a man who's come home to see an uncut lawn and a terrified son

omar little, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:27 (one year ago) link

That photo was edited together, iirc. Can't you just feel the chemistry?

jmm, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:29 (one year ago) link

I watched The Mummy and it's remarkable how they took a plot that was about 3/4 of a movie and then slapped half of a different film into the middle of it and still somehow only came out with less than a single complete work

mh, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:36 (one year ago) link

I've never heard of this thing, just clicked on the thread in the expectation that it was about laughing at the universally dark universe we all live in and got to say I'm pretty disappointed

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:40 (one year ago) link

I was hoping for a debunking of dark matter a la string theory

david waster phallus (darraghmac), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:56 (one year ago) link

Johnny Depp was the actor originally expected to play the Invisible Man


and now he’s the actor we all wish would disappear

maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 28 January 2019 18:58 (one year ago) link

Let's all bow our heads in honor of Camaraderie's thirst for humorous anomie.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2019 18:58 (one year ago) link

Johnny Depp was the actor originally expected to play the Invisible Man

Pretty sure Johnny Depp is already playing the Invisible Man in most movies. He's usually just walking around in the background and stuff, but you kind of have to squint.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 January 2019 19:10 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I'm trying to think of a body of water that is hipper and fresher than the Black Lagoon.

― The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T & the Women (Old Lunch), Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:16 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Creature from the Gowanus Canal? He's coming for your microbrews...and a hipster hottie in a vintage bathing suit?

In the meantime, the Invisble Man remake may have solved its Depp problem: https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2467738/the-invisible-man-reboot-may-have-found-its-first-new-star

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 4 March 2019 20:20 (one year ago) link

I hope they cast her as the titular star and still bafflingly go with The Invisible Man as the title.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Monday, 4 March 2019 20:25 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

it's aliiiiiiiiive!

Elisabeth Moss, who was in early talks for Universal-Blumhouse’s The Invisible Man last month, is officially on board with the latest rendition of the classic monster character.

The project reps a re-team for Moss with producer Jason Blum after the recent $220M-global grossing success of Jordan Peele’s Us. Invisible Man will shoot in Australia. The opening weekend for Us became the highest-grossing ever for an original horror title.

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 13:48 (one year ago) link

And prompted by the wild success of an original horror title, we've opted to produce the 415th film adaptation of a 150 year old horror property.

Oold Lunch (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 April 2019 13:54 (one year ago) link

laugh all you want, cynic, but i for one am excited about the possibility of elisabeth moss' invisible man going toe-to-toe with russell crowe's mr hyde and tom cruise's err whoever the fuck tom cruise was in the mummy

arli$$ and bible black (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 April 2019 13:59 (one year ago) link

The Daddy?

Oold Lunch (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 April 2019 14:00 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

Apparently the success of The Invisible Man has inspired Universal to return to the Dark Universe: http://epicstream.com/news/TinyDiapana/Universal-Developing-New-Dracula-Movie-For-Its-Dark-Universe

Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Friday, 13 March 2020 00:57 (five months ago) link

the invisible man was good though

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 13 March 2020 00:58 (five months ago) link

it was also made on a us$7m budget, unlike the mummy which cost a freaking bomb

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 13 March 2020 01:00 (five months ago) link

giving it all to blumhouse is a decent strategy. might work.

wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 13 March 2020 01:06 (five months ago) link

we could be entering an era of decent hollywood movies that don’t cost liechtenstein’s gdp to make

karmic blowback for dissing pip and jane baker (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 13 March 2020 01:21 (five months ago) link

seems like horror films are the only small movies that turn a reliable profit today.

wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 13 March 2020 01:33 (five months ago) link

Yeah I saw this last night and thought it was good. Have no idea wtf they’re gonna do with Dracula. Also assume the budget won’t be 7m.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 13 March 2020 04:37 (five months ago) link

imo they should cap the budgets just in case

mh, Friday, 13 March 2020 13:55 (five months ago) link

Two of Kusama's previous films were on $1 million budgets (fifteen years apart).

Whannel's first film made $100 million on a $1 million budget, his second made $147 million on a $4 million budget, his third made $164 million on a $10 million budget, his fifth made $100 million on a $1.5 million budget, his sixth made $160 million on a $5 million budget, his seventh (first as director) made $113 million on an $11 million budget, his eighth had a $3 million budget, and The Invisible Man has made $105 million in two weeks on a $7 million budget.

Blumhouse's most expensive movies to date iirc are $15 million for BlacKkKlansman, a co-production with a name director, a couple of stars, dozens of speaking roles & even more extras, and shitloads of outdoor and indoor location shoots; and $20 million for Glass, which had to pay M. Night Shyamalan, Bruce Willis, Sam Jackson, and James McAvoy, who probably has a reasonable quote after a bunch of X-Mens.

It's very unlikely that they're not going to keep the budget low on Kusama's Dracula.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 13 March 2020 20:27 (five months ago) link

and the one that kinda flopped was upgrade, which is amazing

wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 13 March 2020 21:29 (five months ago) link

Returned about six times its budget, on almost zero promotion! Absolutely a big success, just only made a fraction of his horror & sequel flicks.

Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Friday, 13 March 2020 21:44 (five months ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/invisible-man-helmer-leigh-whannell-direct-ryan-gosling-wolfman-1302467

Aaaand now Blumhouse and Whannell are now attached to a Wolfman reboot for Ryan Gosling. "The script has been described as having a vibe that evokes Network (1976) and Nightcrawler (2014)." So pseudo-found footage of Larry Talbot yelling "I'm flea-bitten as hell, and I'm not going to take this any more"?

Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Thursday, 9 July 2020 17:44 (one month ago) link

i was recently thinking that if ace in the hole were done today, the reporter would throw people in wells and never think twice about it.

wasdnous (abanana), Thursday, 9 July 2020 18:52 (one month ago) link


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