All Series Must Die (Which Is Why There Are New Ones) -- The Game of Thrones Series Spinoffs

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Talk about going all in:

http://io9.gizmodo.com/hbo-and-george-r-r-martin-are-developing-four-game-of-1794928697

While we’ve known for awhile that there was a possibility of a prequel series, this is a lot more of a commitment than we’d previously heard. According to IGN, David Benioff and David Weiss will be on board all four of the projects, with George R.R. Martin helping to write two of them. Jane Goldman (Kingsman: The Secret Service) and Carly Wray (The Leftovers) each have a project with him. The other two shows will be written by Max Borenstein (Kong: Skull Island) and Brian Helgeland (LA: Confidential).

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:31 (seven years ago) link

At this point I am now fully convinced he won't bother finishing the book series.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 19:32 (seven years ago) link

seems a good bet

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:03 (seven years ago) link

Tales from the Stoneheart
Sewing with Sansa
Cleganebowl annual events
Fear the Game of Thrones

Einstein, Kazanga, Sitar (abanana), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:10 (seven years ago) link

too bad ian mcshane is busy at the moment

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:27 (seven years ago) link

please let someone interesting get to do the music for at least one of these.

(NB djawadi has improved over time but still)

gimmesomehawnz (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:44 (seven years ago) link

Seems like the only memorable thing he did was the main theme.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 20:49 (seven years ago) link

The Light of the Seven, the piece that was playing under Cersei's grand plan in the beginning of the most recent season finale, is pretty cool.

https://youtu.be/pS-gbqbVd8c

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:02 (seven years ago) link

Is there going to be a Sand Snakes spinoff on TNT?

Evan, Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:07 (seven years ago) link

thats the sound of a thousand fantasy writers re-purposing their nerdy ass shit to be used as GoT spinoff material

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:17 (seven years ago) link

And then after a season or two they all team up in Game of Thrones Defenders and beat up Finn Jones one more time.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 May 2017 21:19 (seven years ago) link

Oh I'm sorry -- five, not four.

http://grrm.livejournal.com/536859.html

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 May 2017 13:46 (seven years ago) link

I kinda love how he goes into deep detail on all this and then at the bottom in a bigger font size and all caps goes

I AM STILL WORKING ON WINDS OF WINTER

No doubt.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 May 2017 13:47 (seven years ago) link

And as for how many of these will come to fruition:

Some of the reports of these developments seem to suggest that HBO might be adding four successor shows to the schedule to replace GAME OF THRONES. Decades of experience in television and film have taught me that nothing is ever really certain... but I do think it's very unlikely that we'll be getting four (or five) series. At least not immediately. What we do have here is an order for four -- now five -- pilot scripts. How many pilots will be filmed, and how many series might come out of that, remains to be seen. (If we do get five series on the air, I might have to change my name to Dick Direwolf).

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 May 2017 13:49 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

Some stuff

https://grrm.livejournal.com/550336.html

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 September 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

bryan seems like a hardworking, productive guy. how is he at writing books?

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 21 September 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

after last season, I am about as excited about seeing a game of thrones spinoff season as i am to see the next star wars movie

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 22 September 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

um yesssss

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mbkxnp/hbos-game-of-thrones-prequel-the-long-night-george-rr-martin-vgtrn

GRRM:

Yes, this is a prequel, not a sequel. None of the characters or actors from GAME OF THRONES will appear in the new show. All of the successor shows we’ve been developing have been prequels, as I have mentioned before. This one really puts the PRE in prequel, since it is set not ninety years before GAME OF THRONES (like Dunk & Egg), or a few hundred years, but rather ten thousand years (well, assuming the oral histories of the First Men are accurate, but there are maesters at the Citadel who insist it has only been half that long). We’re very early in the process, of course, with the pilot order just in, so we don’t have a director yet, or a cast, or a location, or even a title. (My vote would be THE LONG NIGHT, which says it all, but I’d be surprised if that’s where we end up. More likely HBO will want to work the phrase “game of thrones” in there somewhere. We’ll know sooner or later)

dunno, but this sounds badass to me

"Thousands of years ago, there came a night that lasted a generation," Old Nan explained to Bran back in GoT's first season. "Kings froze to death in their castles, same as the shepherds in their huts. And women smothered their babies rather than see them starve, and wept, and felt the tears freeze on their cheeks... In that darkness, the White Walkers came for the first time. They swept through cities and kingdoms, riding their dead horses, hunting with their packs of pale spiders, big as hounds."

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 June 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

Jane Goldman as showrunner is...not promising

Number None, Monday, 11 June 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNwwt25mheo

groovypanda, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 10:38 (two years ago) link

i guess the dragons are still rendering

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 12:55 (two years ago) link

matt smith? being scary? i always find that so unnerving because he seems like the kind of non-threatening doofus who furiously resents being a non-threatening doofus and then blows up a town.

person (cat), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link

I mean, without real time source material to contend with, this might be solid.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 03:51 (two years ago) link

The source material was basically what made GoT good, though.

chap, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 10:16 (two years ago) link

this does have source material—it’s based off the biggest section martin’s fire and blood, which is a history of the targaryen family, plus a few short stories that go into more detail, like “the princess and the queen”

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 12:04 (two years ago) link

Oh right, it might be good then.

chap, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 12:05 (two years ago) link

My point was more about the “real time” descriptor, meaning they won’t be outpacing them source material during the run and have to scramble to tie shit together. Okay

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 12:52 (two years ago) link

lol stupid phone added the stray “Okay”

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 12:53 (two years ago) link

Yes, if based on completed GRRM material it probably will be decent (though of course I've personally yet to see evidence that he can conclude an epic fantasy story in a satisfying manner).

chap, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:15 (two years ago) link

the story they're planning to tell here def has an ending, and a bit of a scouring of the shire-style epilogue which i doubt they'll include

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 6 October 2021 13:26 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

Really enjoyed the first episode of House of the Dragon. Definitely up for lots more political machinations in this world. The young girl Targaryen was very good and Matt Smith looks like he's having (and will be) lots of fun.

Pretty wild - if not surprising - that the original show has finished and we now have the spin off and still no new book has been published.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 06:49 (one year ago) link

forgot about this thread. there was a little discussion about it on the "but is it on netflix" thread. fully expect this spinoff series to end before the next book arrives

i'm debating about whether i should go back and read fire & blood again or just let the series surprise me. idk if i can resist lol

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

Rhaenyra looks eerily like John Mulaney imo? Am I crazy?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

Thought the first episode was entertaining enough. I hope they find ways to broaden the sense of the world beyond just the inner turmoil of the Targaryens. My favorite thing about the GOT books and HBO series was the way the world kept getting bigger throughout them. So I hope we get scenes in the free cities and so forth.

xp i will never unsee that lol

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

I sort of got Elrond of Rivendell vibes from Rhaenyra.

Just watched E2 and am enjoying very much. Most of my friends are still riding high on the whole “game of thrones sucks now” vibes from the end of the series - so feel like I’m going this alone

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 29 August 2022 04:22 (one year ago) link

i found the first ep reprehensibly gratuitous in its sex, violence and exposition. like if an AI was fed all the episodes and told to make a spin off.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 August 2022 04:34 (one year ago) link

Ha! Much less of it in e2. But the weird sad orgy in e1 did feel very unnecessary. Like they thought people would complain if there wasn’t an ott brothel scene.
The violence was just right tho, imho

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 29 August 2022 04:44 (one year ago) link

Yeah I was a bit put off by the half assed tavern orgy scene and the various gory bludgeonings, like OK we get it, you're reminding us what this show was all about before it went all Iceman Cometh.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2022 04:52 (one year ago) link

what i ultimately liked about GoT at its best was how lore was told through plot, how battles became epic iliad-esque dips into hell, where the quiet moments presented opportunities for exploring character development and not chances to be even freakier, how the shifts in locale and different storylines gave natural narrative gear shifting. The sadism and tits were to be endured more than celebrated. Now its like everybody's joffrey. WTF would i wanna watch that for.
but of course i'll probably watch the 2nd ep. I'm a tv masochist.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 August 2022 05:06 (one year ago) link

there's no gore or sex in episode two so don't worry

akm, Monday, 29 August 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link

there is the possibility of an incendiary incident – but let's not spoil things.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 29 August 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

I'm not squeamish! It's just kinda boring and predictable.
I'll watch ep 2 before I complain too much more but the telegraphing of the story direction (and eventual red herrings) are coming fast and furious in episode 1. Gosh, i wonder if those cuts the king is getting on the iron throne might be a more serious problem than they appear?

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 August 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

i feel like that's not supposed to be a surprise? they've made it pretty obvious, as they literally talked about the gash on his back that isn't healing.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 29 August 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

this first season is gonna be unlike anything else that has ever aired on tv. from what i can tell, this season is gonna cover roughly 30 years of westerosi history, and they can't really compress the timeline because there are characters who factor heavily into the coming conflict who haven't even been born yet lol

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 29 August 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

xp, of course; i'm just using that as an example. The birthing murder scene was also obvious from 80 feet away. Every character's presumed arc is being played to the rafters right now to the point where bad guys are twirling mustaches "but they aren't really BAD so much as they are machiavellian do you see"
Wake me when there's an interesting conversation.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 August 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

xp

yes, I was browsing The World of Ice & Fire last night while I was watching this and counted 12 Targaryen kings between this one and Robert, so this series has quite a lot of ground to cover.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 29 August 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link

Is that their intention? How many season is this supposed to be?

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link

they're planning to cover a period of history called "the dance of the dragons." i won't elaborate or spoil, but the period they're looking to cover is about three decades, not the 20 or so decades until robert's rebellion.

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Monday, 29 August 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

yeah I assume there will be yet another proposed series after this one that fills in some of the gaps. I had thought we'd see the mad king in this series but we are way way way early for that.

akm, Monday, 29 August 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

i’m into Ringer’s House of R podcast recaps - they have a weekly scene by scene deep dive that seemed excessive at first but now i’m v into it because I can never remember shit from GOT and I don’t know much lore

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, July 8, 2024 5:02 PM bookmarkflaglink

YESSSS Ringer's House of R is great.

Chris, Mallory, and Joanna recapping it like a sports season always cracks me up.

felicity, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 00:30 (one week ago) link

Mallory predictably reduced to tears describing the bond between rider and dragon

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 00:34 (one week ago) link

lol yes vmic for Mallory

and i realize i said aegon when i meant aemon re big fuckoff dragon obv

these names are going to kill me

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 01:47 (one week ago) link

Aegon, Egon, Egg-On, Egg, Ayyyygon and Steve

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 July 2024 01:55 (one week ago) link

Rhaegar Eagon Aemon Dozy Beaky Mick And Titch

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 02:35 (one week ago) link

Talk the Thrones and House of R are the same podcast. TtT is the one-hour instant recap they do, and then later the week they do the epic deep dives. I only do the short ones because even as I’m into the show, I can’t devote myself to a 3.5 hour weekly podcast.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:06 (one week ago) link

oh lol yr right i forgot that

yeah i started with Talk only, like was repelled by the idea of a 3hr recap

…but i do regularly listen to Bandsplain so it’s not like 3+hr podcasts are not NOT for me

so yeah once i warmed up to their nerdiness i discovered i could cope with the full experience

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 03:11 (one week ago) link

I am loving just about everything this season, but the one nagging nit for me is Alyn. He seems like a compelling character and someone who I’ll enjoy watching eventually. But they’ve now done exactly one scene per episode with Alyn standing on the dock fixing Corlys’ boat, essentially repeating the same conversation each time but with a different person. This guy needs a new setting with something to do! I imagine following the most recent episode, and Corlys’ inevitable response next week, that will finally change.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 15:28 (one week ago) link

Yes! That has been driving me a little nuts too, there seems to be absolutely no forward motion with that!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 18:51 (one week ago) link

I think they revealed quite a bit about it in the conversation between Corlys and Rhaenys, although they are hinting at a somewhat different direction from the book.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 19:23 (one week ago) link

yeah that definitely stuck out to me too

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 19:24 (one week ago) link

This season has been great af and this episode was incredible. What an ending, I rarely find the battle scenes in these compelling but this ruled: drunk out of his depth Aegon, Rhaenys shrewd but still gazumped by a man, Aemond just ruthless. The second he saw Sunfyre fly over his head I knew what was going to happen. Just not the how. You really get a sense of the sheer destruction of the dragons, like little tactical nukes that go off multiple times and can asphyxiate an area from their dying breaths too.

Also liked the Daemon/Aemond parallels a lot. You know they’re going to fight and at least one of them’s going to die.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:37 (one week ago) link

Also Vhagar is one of the original three dragons of House Targaryen which is why he’s so huge compared to the others, that fucker is much older. I never read the book (?) this series is adapted from but I know the backstory from the books. Oh yeah, common Criston Cole L.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:40 (one week ago) link

Sunfyre and Seasmoke are total my little pony names, agreed xps

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:43 (one week ago) link

they mentioned this in Talk The Thrones, they did an excellent job of giving you geographical points of reference in the dragon battle and making it feel so real and thrilling to watch without getting lost in the cgi of it all

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:48 (one week ago) link

in terms of the irl distance covered in the battle?

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:55 (one week ago) link

I liked the way all the dragon riders had distinct fighting styles, like Melys just raking the shit out of Sunfyre with the talons

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:56 (one week ago) link

not distance but like, up in the air with the land semi-regularly being IN the frame

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 21:58 (one week ago) link

Ah right yeah makes sense

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 22:33 (one week ago) link

rook's rest battle was one of the best sequences in either series. really sad, brutal, and hard to watch!

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 9 July 2024 22:39 (one week ago) link

Dragon warfare is incredible to watch. Well done polygons. Mallory Rubin always geeked out over saying "Caraxes" with extra vocal fry last season.

With the price of goats in King's Landing, you might ask "Why aren't you driving a vegan dragon?" This is why. Give me a big honker.

I love the battle scenes but with each fallen dragon I get a bit stressed out because they are pretty rare and I do not like seeing them get totaled.

felicity, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 00:13 (one week ago) link

was unprepared for the “rain of dragon entrails” element … as were the poor folks who copped it yeesh

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 01:17 (one week ago) link

oh yeah the dragon blood scalding the soldiers was an incredible touch

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 02:33 (one week ago) link

will never get tired of dragon battles I fear

great episode, knew exactly what was going to happen the moment aegon suited up and it was very satisfying when it did lol

Roz, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:26 (one week ago) link

whomst among us hasn’t gotten drunk and recklessly flown a dragon into battle

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:41 (one week ago) link

Where people suprised that Aemond took out Aegon? I feel like that was telegraphed since last season.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:41 (one week ago) link

I wasn’t surprised by his desire but I was surprised by his brazenness

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:47 (one week ago) link

not surprised no
i guess maybe more shocked by the action of the sequence, and the bloodymindedness of it, going for it out in the open with whoever on the ground watching it all happen like wow dude really did that

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:48 (one week ago) link

yeah they definitely built that up for awhile

bummed criston cole is still around though, i hate that guy so much. I was trying to figure out where I’d seen alicent’s brother before, just clocked that he’s Spider from Slow Horses lol

Roz, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:54 (one week ago) link

yeah criston is a choad

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:59 (one week ago) link

Also King Hugo on the Great, where he was...great.

Yeah I suppose surprised that Aemond would clearly go after Aegon before good older lady who's name i'm too lazy to look up. At first thought it'd be like "friendly fire" but no.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:00 (one week ago) link

Least surprising development ever, only question I had was if Cole would connect Aemond standing over his (dying? wasn’t he still hanging on?) brother with sword in his hand with malevolent intent since he clearly can’t use “putting him out of his misery” as an excuse.

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:03 (one week ago) link

my guess is Criston would connect it and try to use it as leverage somehow maybe?

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:11 (one week ago) link

Seems accurate but given his success rate so far you’d have to imagine it ends in tears 🤞🏻

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:26 (one week ago) link

I thought they had shown Criston and Aemond to be scheming buddies enought that he'd be like "whatever, 1 eyed brothers better"

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:36 (one week ago) link

Criston has a weird moral code, where I don’t think he could justify plotting Aegon’s death (especially since he is the Hand). Thats a level of dishonor he couldn’t handle. Meanwhile scheming a battle tactic with Aemond without checking with the king first is Ae-OK

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:47 (one week ago) link

yeah that is otm

dude’s whole moral code is basically a series of sand dunes

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 16:59 (one week ago) link

and he's really just pissed still that Rhaenyra wouldn't run off with him I assume.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 17:01 (one week ago) link

I was trying to figure out where I’d seen alicent’s brother before, just clocked that he’s Spider from Slow Horses lol

― Roz, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 15:54 (one hour ago) link

THANK YOU

Poor actor, he has one of those "smug bad guy" faces like James Spader

felicity, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 17:03 (one week ago) link

yeah, it took me a minute to realize it was the endlessly hateable "spider" from Slow Horses. he's a good addition, with strong personality and a grounded, identifiable sense of reason... good foil for sir criston cole. hopefully he'll stick around for a while.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Wednesday, 10 July 2024 21:05 (one week ago) link

i don't think it would've been visible to folks on the ground that aemond was attacking aegon. would they have clocked the intricacies of the interpersonal dynamics or would they just have been like, "aaahhhh wtf three dragons ahhhh"

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 21:49 (one week ago) link

Criston was genuinely upset Aegon died even if it just meant he failed horribly at his job

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Wednesday, 10 July 2024 22:45 (one week ago) link

Meanwhile he seems to be overachieving at the job of Head of the Queen.

But hey, the glass of moon tea is half full: a slot opened up to name another kid Aegon in case the cuppa Plan B fails

felicity, Thursday, 11 July 2024 00:23 (one week ago) link

Feels kind of dumb to realize that the reason every character has so many interchangeable offspring is because they need plenty of fodder to support multiple seasons of dragon roastings.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 15 July 2024 23:13 (four days ago) link

I did get very confused briefly when I thought the woman Daemon was hallucinating was Daenerys

Roz, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 01:31 (three days ago) link

I liked this episode even as it was a quieter one. I think they needed a brief reset after last week

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 01:41 (three days ago) link

I think this whole Daemon off his gourd at Harrenhal plot has gone on way too long.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 01:54 (three days ago) link

Yes I’m ready for that to resolve too.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 02:03 (three days ago) link

so long as it's not Ayra in Braavos long we're ok.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 16 July 2024 02:38 (three days ago) link

That plot was fine, but the Dany in the desert one was teeeeeedious.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 July 2024 06:04 (three days ago) link


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