Least evil of the top 50 American billionaires

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2016/03/01/the-full-list-of-every-american-billionaire-2016/#7bc0b6aa37ac

Poll Results

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1. Bill Gates; Net Worth: $75 B; Source of wealth: Microsoft 9
3. Warren Buffett; Net Worth: $60.8 B; Source of wealth: Berkshire Hathaway 7
22. Sheldon Adelson; Net Worth: $25.2 B; Source of wealth: casinos 3
40. Paul Allen; Net Worth: $17.5 B; Source of wealth: Microsoft, investments 3
44. Laurene Powell Jobs; Net Worth: $16.7 B; Source of wealth: Apple, Disney 2
8. Michael Bloomberg; Net Worth: $40 B; Source of wealth: Bloomberg LP 1
34. Theo Albrecht; Net Worth: $20.3 B; Source of wealth: Aldi, Trader Joe's 1
23. George Soros; Net Worth: $24.9 B; Source of wealth: hedge funds 1
33. Jack Ma; Net Worth: $20.5 B; Source of wealth: Alibaba 1
36. Mukesh Ambani; Net Worth: $19.3 B; Source of wealth: petrochemicals, oil & gas 0
35. Michael Dell; Net Worth: $19.8 B; Source of wealth: Dell 0
50. James Simons; Net Worth: $15.5 B; Source of wealth: hedge funds 0
32. Stefan Persson; Net Worth: $20.8 B; Source of wealth: H&M 0
31. Shau Kee Lee; Net Worth: $21.5 B; Source of wealth: real estate 0
30. Maria Franca Fissolo; Net Worth: $22.1 B; Source of wealth: Nutella, Chocolates 0
37. Leonardo Del Vecchio; Net Worth: $18.7 B; Source of wealth: eyeglasses 0
48. Ray Dalio; Net Worth: $15.6 B; Source of wealth: hedge funds 0
47. Dieter Schwarz; Net Worth: $16.4 B; Source of wealth: retail 0
46. Huateng Ma; Net Worth: $16.6 B; Source of wealth: internet portal 0
45. Dilip Shanghvi; Net Worth: $16.7 B; Source of wealth: pharmaceuticals 0
38. Susanne Klatten; Net Worth: $18.5 B; Source of wealth: BMW, pharmaceuticals 0
43. Carl Icahn; Net Worth: $17 B; Source of wealth: investments 0
42. Joseph Safra; Net Worth: $17.2 B; Source of wealth: banking 0
41. Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Alsaud; Net Worth: $17.3 B; Source of wealth: investments 0
49. Stefan Quandt; Net Worth: $15.6 B; Source of wealth: BMW 0
39. Georg Schaeffler; Net Worth: $18.1 B; Source of wealth: ball bearings 0
29. John Mars; Net Worth: $23.4 B; Source of wealth: candy 0
28. Jacqueline Mars; Net Worth: $23.4 B; Source of wealth: candy 0
27. Forrest Mars; Net Worth: $23.4 B; Source of wealth: candy 0
13. Sergey Brin; Net Worth: $34.4 B; Source of wealth: Google 0
12. Larry Page; Net Worth: $35.2 B; Source of wealth: Google 0
11. Liliane Bettencourt; Net Worth: $36.1 B; Source of wealth: L'Oreal 0
10. David Koch; Net Worth: $39.6 B; Source of wealth: diversified 0
9. Charles Koch; Net Worth: $39.6 B; Source of wealth: diversified 0
7. Larry Ellison; Net Worth: $43.6 B; Source of wealth: Oracle 0
6. Mark Zuckerberg; Net Worth: $44.6 B; Source of wealth: Facebook 0
5. Jeff Bezos; Net Worth: $45.2 ; Source of wealth: Amazon.com 0
4. Carlos Slim Helu; Net Worth: $50 B; Source of wealth: telecom 0
14. Bernard Arnault; Net Worth: $34 B; Source of wealth: LVMH 0
15. Jim Walton; Net Worth: $33.6 B; Source of wealth: Wal-Mart 0
26. Steve Ballmer; Net Worth: $23.5 B; Source of wealth: Microsoft 0
25. David Thomson; Net Worth: $23.8 B; Source of wealth: media 0
24. Phil Knight; Net Worth: $24.4 B; Source of wealth: Nike 0
21. Beate Heister & Karl Albrecht Jr.; Net Worth: $25.9 B; Source of wealth: supermarkets 0
20. Ka-shing Li; Net Worth: $27.1 B; Source of wealth: diversified 0
19. Jorge Paulo Lemann; Net Worth: $27.8 B; Source of wealth: beer 0
18. Jianlin Wang; Net Worth: $28.7 B; Source of wealth: real estate 0
17. S. Robson Walton; Net Worth: $31.9 B; Source of wealth: Wal-Mart 0
16. Alice Walton; Net Worth: $32.3 B; Source of wealth: Wal-Mart 0
2. Amancio Ortega; Net Worth: $67 B; Source of wealth: Zara 0


Mhysa Jar Jar Binks (Leee), Saturday, 25 March 2017 15:58 (four years ago) link

Among these, maybe Gates or Page?

I kind of expected Tom Steyer to be on this list but he's way down in the thousands.

Mhysa Jar Jar Binks (Leee), Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:00 (four years ago) link

Hah maybe Bezos because we're all indebted/dependent to Amazon in 2017.

Mhysa Jar Jar Binks (Leee), Saturday, 25 March 2017 16:06 (four years ago) link

Susanne Klatten's family were Nazis, but she seems like a standard run-of-the-mill moderate conservative

sarahell, Saturday, 25 March 2017 18:07 (four years ago) link

Theo Albrecht served in the German army in WW2. However he also is the Trader Joe's guy, so he has cheap prepared foods and discounted imported cheese and chocolate to weigh against fighting for Hitler

sarahell, Saturday, 25 March 2017 18:14 (four years ago) link

Laurene Powell Jobs - Steve was a sociopath but relatively light in the evil department compared to a bunch of these and I'd guess she hasn't actively done much with what she inherited

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 25 March 2017 18:22 (four years ago) link

Though I don't know anything about their choices in life, politics, or actions, it's tempting to vote for one of the Mars heirs just on "Source of wealth: candy." Brother Forrest it seems died last year. Of them all I would pick his successor, Victoria B. Mars, who seems like a rare old-school heiress-philanthropist, donating to land conservancies and things like that.

Realistically I think I have to go Gates, who could do so much more, but is at least doing way more than probably most of these rich assholes put together.

Neither of the Mas lives in the Western Hemisphere AFAICT.

tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 25 March 2017 18:28 (four years ago) link

lol thanks poll for reminding me of this

Vanessa Williams Knows Too Much: DC13

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Saturday, 25 March 2017 19:46 (four years ago) link

The man behind the discount empire is the least likely to provide an explanation. Dieter Schwarz, whose personal fortune was in 2013 estimated to be €19.6bn, is not just the 24th richest person on the planet, but also one of the most secretive. Only two photographs of the Swabian 74-year-old remain in circulation, one in black and white.

Legend has it that he once turned down a medal for entrepreneurial achievement from the state of Baden-Württemberg because he did not want to be photographed. Schwarz took over the Schwarz & Lidl discount store after his father Josef's death in 1977 and bought the naming rights from co-owner Ludwig Lidl, a retired schoolteacher, soon after. Calling his chain Schwarz-Markt, meaning "black market", was never a realistic option.

jmm, Saturday, 25 March 2017 19:56 (four years ago) link

Source of wealth: beer

seems kind of pure

j., Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:05 (four years ago) link

like Adolph Coors, eh?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:06 (four years ago) link

I doubt any of the Americans on the list would qualify as least evil

sarahell, Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:07 (four years ago) link

"Adolph Coors committed suicide at the age of 82 years on June 5, 1929, in Virginia Beach, Virginia, when he jumped to his death from the window of the Cavalier Hotel. He was said to have been depressed due to Prohibition adversely affecting his business, but newspaper accounts varied at the time."

I never knew about this little interesting titbit.

calzino, Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:41 (four years ago) link

Early in 1868, he came to the United States as an undocumented stowaway.[ 1 ]

j., Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:47 (four years ago) link

i think it would be cool if all of them died and we took their money but thats just me :/

nice cage (m bison), Saturday, 25 March 2017 20:48 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 00:01 (four years ago) link

Paul Allen in a walk imo

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 00:09 (four years ago) link

I think the most evil thing he's done is invest in Ticketmaster, and that was in 1993

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 00:10 (four years ago) link

I think it would be cool if all of them died and we took their money but thats just me :/

― nice cage (m bison), Saturday, March 25, 2017 8:48 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTFM

The existence of billionaires is an obscenity.

Fiddle Catstro (latebloomer), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 02:07 (four years ago) link

tempted to vote gates b/c everyone else i've heard on this list is terrible but i assume there's something awful about him i'm forgetting

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 02:15 (four years ago) link

The Gates Foundation pushes charter schools, which are evil

softie (silby), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 02:17 (four years ago) link

voted Sheldon Adelson for his warm personality

example (crüt), Tuesday, 28 March 2017 02:22 (four years ago) link

I thought the president was the richest man in the world.

clemenza, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 02:44 (four years ago) link

isn't Warren Buffett an aight dude?

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 03:46 (four years ago) link

Buffett stated that he only paid 19% of his income for 2006 ($48.1 million) in total federal taxes (due to their source as dividends and capital gains, although the figure excluded the taxes on that income paid by the corporations that provided it), while his employees paid 33% of theirs, despite making much less money.[158] “How can this be fair?” Buffett asked, regarding how little he pays in taxes compared to his employees. "How can this be right?" He also added, "There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning."[159][160] After Donald Trump accused him of taking "massive deductions," Buffett countered, "I have copies of all 72 of my returns and none uses a carryforward."[161]
Buffett favors the inheritance tax, saying that repealing it would be like "choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics".[162] In 2007, Buffett testified before the Senate and urged them to preserve the estate tax so as to avoid a plutocracy.[163] Some critics argued that Buffett (through Berkshire Hathaway) has a personal interest in the continuation of the estate tax, since Berkshire Hathaway benefited from the estate tax in past business dealings and had developed and marketed insurance policies to protect policy holders against future estate tax payments.[164] Buffett believes government should not be in the business of gambling, or legalizing casinos, calling it a tax on ignorance

mizzell, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 13:25 (four years ago) link

Some of those billionnaires are not american.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 14:03 (four years ago) link

There's some deep moral calculus of where the money came from, where it's going, and who these people really are imo

I mean, fifteen or twenty years ago people working in software would grumble under their breath that Bill Gates would have to cure cancer or something to overwhelm the shady business shit Microsoft would pull, but here we are in 2017 with Gates personally involved with some initiatives that are doing actual good and I don't give a shit about his business career so much anymore.

I guess the point is I know who I really dislike on this list but can't make too many judgments beyond that

mh 😏, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 14:22 (four years ago) link

can't believe how big Zara is

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 14:41 (four years ago) link

"I have copies of all 72 of my returns and none uses a carryforward."

oooh burn! Take that you "Net Operating Loser"

sarahell, Tuesday, 28 March 2017 16:14 (four years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 00:01 (four years ago) link

As long as we remember that "least evil" is still "evil".

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 00:18 (four years ago) link

if we agree that "wealth" is evil (which tbf I do)

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 00:22 (four years ago) link

capitalism is a pyramid scheme et al

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 29 March 2017 00:23 (four years ago) link

I'm quitting ILX again

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 01:02 (four years ago) link

I'm hoping that the three people who voted for Adelson were doing it for the lolz.

...and DON'T *bleeep* IT UP! (Leee), Wednesday, 29 March 2017 02:26 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

so who do we think of this list is least evil now

answer: NONE OF THEM

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 04:56 (nine months ago) link

How the hell did Sheldon Adelson get three votes?

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 05:04 (nine months ago) link

I had the same question. If one only looked from his support for Israel, well, its specifically for Likudnik politics that bring international pariah status. In US politics, he's an unmitigated disaster.

How the hell does George Soros only have 1 vote? He did more than any other private individual to undermine communist dictatorships in Eastern Europe in the 80s.

Advanced Doomscroller (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 05:10 (nine months ago) link

answer: NONE OF THEM

Paul Allen's family have dismantled most of the arts orgs that he funded since he died

Un-fooled and placid (sic), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 05:11 (nine months ago) link

I also have kind words for Ray Dalio, who like Gates and Buffett is pledged to give away most of his wealth, and continues to put out messages like this.

Advanced Doomscroller (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 05:15 (nine months ago) link

did something bad come out about Gates to prompt this revive

not that I'm in favour of billionaires under any circumstances but

imago, Tuesday, 27 October 2020 08:56 (nine months ago) link

lol, just opened this thread and was about to write milo's post word-for-word.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:55 (nine months ago) link

But also Neanderthal's. The least evil billionaire is the billionaire actively working to divest his wealth such that he's no longer a billionaire. Which, I suspect, describes not one of these fine folks.

OrificeMax (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 October 2020 10:57 (nine months ago) link


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