Worst Fourth Film In A Series

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lol yes those nails

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 9 November 2017 03:23 (six years ago) link

Didn't vote, but I've only seen Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, which is good, and the top two finishers, which ARE NOT *BAD* MOVIES. The others are either from series I had no interest in, or cash-ins you could smell in the next county.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 05:44 (six years ago) link

ahh c'mon phantom menace is a disaster. leaden shuffling around, no story, no emotions, pathetic world-building, racism...

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 05:52 (six years ago) link

one peg down from Return of the Jedi...

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 06:11 (six years ago) link

when's the last time you watched either? serious question. imho jedi is a pretty good if unfocused kids' adventure movie with some clunky carpentry showing and some pacing/structure issues, but charismatic performances and a ton of craft on the screen, ranking high for the genre and time period. it's nothing on the previous two, but a good afternoon's viewing with very little to outright cringe at. phantom menace is so, so narratively inert and comparing the two really makes me like jedi more since i realize: wow, i know what the characters' motivations are! wow, the people stuck delivering exposition try to make something of it! etc....

to be fair, phantom's still not as bad as the followups. attack of the clones really is like the death of cinema. now i wonder if i should do a 'fifth' thread.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 06:26 (six years ago) link

Crystal skull is utter shit.

But most of these movies are utter shit tbf.

Will rep for Bourne 4

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 09:55 (six years ago) link

pls make a fifth thread doc

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:51 (six years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_series_with_five_entries

Can't say I have a lot of enthusiasm either way once serieses get to 5.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 14:59 (six years ago) link

Revenge of the Nerds 4 deserved to be on this list

frogbs, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link

xpost You and everyone involved in making the fifth installment of a series.

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:02 (six years ago) link

cool yeah imma get on this later today probs

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link

I think we can avoid the painful poll by collectively agreeing that Seed of Chucky is clearly the best fifth movie in any series.

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:04 (six years ago) link

FYI, that wiki list seems to be for series that tapped out at five installments. The visionaries which exceeded the bounds of sanity to create six or more films have been sadly excluded.

Bernard Crunderdunder (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link

Crystal skull is utter shit.

No film with the fridge scene is "utter shit."

Doc C, I haven't seen Phantom Menace since '98, cuz why would I?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

I guess I figured you'd have at least made it out to its original theatrical run in '99 (sorry, couldn't resist).

Yeah, last time round I spent a lot of time in the thick of Wiki pages for 11-installment series and stuff. Think I'll just start from the 4ths and see what got a 5th, with a little skimming around for anything I might have missed.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

98/99, same thing :)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

I think we can avoid the painful poll by collectively agreeing that Seed of Chucky is clearly the best fifth movie in any series.

Tied with Final Destination 5.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:10 (six years ago) link

Fridge scene was great. The scene that, had it been excised from Crystal Skull, people *might* have gotten off its nuts a little bit more is Shia with the monkeys.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

And yeah the fridge scene and the stuff at Harvard is all solid. Lesser Spielberg but not unrecognizable and some nicely-staged action despite the distracting CGI. It really goes off a cliff hard right after the Harvard chase, though, and the opening stuff at the warehouse is really lacking a sense of magic or larger-than-lifeness.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link

Spielberg had a number of "It's George's baby" quotes about that one

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link

Shia was George's baby?!

That explains a few things.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link

I just finished that recent Lucas biography and yeah, Spielberg quotes indicate that -- at least on that particular one -- when it comes to the Indy films he considers himself a for-hire director who executes George's vision, not a collaborator.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

I....enjoyed Fast Five. It's still the only FATF film I've seen

imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:17 (six years ago) link

Fridge scene is utter shit

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

THE utter shit

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:23 (six years ago) link

Jeez, how many 5 film series would you even consider watching?

For me... Frankenstein, Dracula, Winners/Gambler, Mr Vampire (first is very overrated but I could deal), Cremaster, Zatoichi, Lassie, Monty Python (this barely counts because I don't consider the live show a proper sequel), Police Story, Once Upon A Time In China, The Street Fighter, Lone Wolf And Cub, Romero's Dead series.

Maybe Gods Must Be Crazy, I gave up early on the first film but the later films are martial arts crossover.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:29 (six years ago) link

iirc the fifth Friday the 13th is bad but there are some worthwhile ones afterwards

Simon H., Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

The thread is coming!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:30 (six years ago) link

I think we can avoid the painful poll by collectively agreeing that Seed of Chucky is clearly the best fifth movie in any series.

Tied with Final Destination 5.

― Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, November 9, 2017 8:10 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

both of these posts are extremely otm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link

iirc the fifth Friday the 13th is bad but there are some worthwhile ones afterwards

― Simon H., Thursday, November 9, 2017 8:30 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it features the immortal outhouse death so i can't say it's bad exactly but it's one of the less good ones

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

the worthwhile friday installments after five are: ... pretty much just jason lives

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

is that the one that opens with the SWAT team fakeout? that one RULES

Simon H., Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

no that is jason goes to hell

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

The 7th is pretty OK, but yeah, that's the last one that's any good.

Anne of the Thousand Gays (Eric H.), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

which, i guess, simon, you are and i are the only two people on earth who think that movie rules xp

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link

imo jason lives is one of the coolest action movies ever made so i'm not knocking it

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

clearly I'm due a series rescreen

Simon H., Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

I'm in the obvious minority in thinking that Jason Goes to Hell is the best in the series by far. I mean, it's not good, but it's completely batshit and at least has the bravery to barely be a Friday the 13th movie.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:49 (six years ago) link

Can't agree with RAG about what constitutes a series

Mission Impossible 5 is good

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:50 (six years ago) link

best fourth film in a series, btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9FGgwCQ22w

imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

Oh, yes, MI5 was good. And probably Harry Potter 5, as well. They all blur into one movie in my memory, tbh.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:55 (six years ago) link

o yeah HP 5 was excellent

imago, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

Darraghmac- what you mean? I only disputed a Monty Python live film.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:57 (six years ago) link

I'm in the obvious minority in thinking that Jason Goes to Hell is the best in the series by far. I mean, it's not good, but it's completely batshit and at least has the bravery to barely be a Friday the 13th movie.

― Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, November 9, 2017 8:49 AM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

we should start a club

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 November 2017 15:59 (six years ago) link

XP maybe a discussion in itself, tbh!?

Frankenstein/Dracula, for instance.....are these coherent 'series' or are they lots of movies with recurring characters, kind of thing....is there a Sherlock Holmes 'series' or just Sherlock Holmes movies...jack the ripper, etc etc

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link

They're sort of coherent. There's a universal series and a Hammer series each of Dracula and Frankenstein and they generally stick to a poorly plotted story.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:16 (six years ago) link

I'm pretty sure there are Sherlock and Tarzan films that work as a series.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

I want it asterisked if allowed

Gary Synaesthesia (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link

I'd imagine that maintaining some pretense of continuity from installment to installment is a relatively recent feature in the evolution of the film series, and even now only employed sparingly.

Fresh Toast (Old Lunch), Thursday, 9 November 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link


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