A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

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Nerds everywhere seem mostly ambivalent

https://www.cnet.com/news/as-if-blade-runner-wasnt-enough-denis-villeneuve-is-rebooting-dune/

http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/1/14469524/dune-director-denis-villeneuve-arrival-blade-runner

The new Dune movie, being produced by Legendary Pictures, marks the second time the book will be adapted on the big screen. The first adaptation, directed by David Lynch (Twin Peaks) in 1984 only made $30 million at the box office and was scorned by critics. Prior to Lynch’s adaptation, cult director Alejandro Jodorowsky tried to capture the world of Herbert’s book to no avail. The events and problems surrounding the making of the film were eventually collected and edited together in a 2013 documentary, Jodorowsky’s Dune.

There is no estimated release date for the project at this time.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:44 (four years ago) link

completely unnecessary!

the original is a stone cold classic

the late great, Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:55 (four years ago) link

totally into it

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:57 (four years ago) link

this guy is a menace

adam, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:07 (four years ago) link

it's gonna end up playing like Gods of Egypt.

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:14 (four years ago) link

This seems v unnecessary

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:39 (four years ago) link

Last (necessary) movies you saw [Started by Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz) in January 2003]

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:43 (four years ago) link

I guess I'm ok with this. I'm sure Villeneuve will make a visually interesting movie. The real problem is making some kind of good and coherent script out of Dune.

I'm not sure what qualities a movie needs to have to be necessary.

silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:40 (four years ago) link

Dune is maybe the worst novel i have ever finished aside from The Hotel New Hampshire

ambivalent or full of loathing, nerds will show up

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:42 (four years ago) link

(also i wd probably watch for free at home to see who inherits the thong from Sting and Matt Keeslaar)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:49 (four years ago) link

baron harkonnen is currently occupying the white house so there's plenty of latitude for villeneuve to play with heavy-handed allegory

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:52 (four years ago) link

could be watchable, but they'll probably need to make it a trilogy to capture everything. Also, please do not go overboard on CGI -- Dune is mostly talking and getting insight into what people are thinking, so if they do this right, more than billion dollar FX, they need good actors, screenwriter, and yeah the director.

Dominique, Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:11 (four years ago) link

like if they say "we wanted to make sure we got the sandworms juuuust right", it's gonna suck, badly

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:57 (four years ago) link

let lynch do it again

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:04 (four years ago) link

trailer better have exactly zero BRAAAAMMMMS in it
if there's a BRAAAAAMMMM with sandworms coming out of the ground trying to eat an ornithopter then basically, fuck everything

El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:08 (four years ago) link

haha you know that's exactly what it's going to be like

the late great, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:12 (four years ago) link

It'll be told from the sandworms' POV

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:10 (four years ago) link

ryan gosling running towards the screen, jumping, the sound DROPS OUT, he grabs onto a vehicle escaping, a sandworm JUMPS out of the ground behind him, jaws snapping (and a second, smaller but lengthier jaw snapping after him ever closer), and that "dying engine" sound kinda comes up on the soundtrack.

title card

DUNE

tagline -- some things were never meant to be unearthed

nomar, Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:14 (four years ago) link

SPICE

MUST

FLOW

coming summer 2019

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:15 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Uh.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-new-dune-movie-is-being-written-by-the-man-who-wrot-1794046167

Variety reports that Eric Roth, who won an Oscar for his adapted screenplay for Forrest Gump, has been hired to adapt the Frank Herbert novel Dune for director Denis Villeneuve. Roth also wrote The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, The Insider, Munich, Ali, and many, many more. So even though you say the words “Forrest Gump” and some people get nauseous, Roth is still a writer who is respected and has worked with some of the best filmmakers of all time: Fincher, Mann, Spielberg, and Zemeckis, just to name a few.

This is good news.

Is it now.

Even if Roth has previously only written one science fiction film: Kevin Costner’s The Postman.

IS IT GOOD NEWS NOW.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 20:38 (four years ago) link

to be fair, i suspect most of the problems with the postman were caused by costner's ego

i'm more concerned that this guy's track record suggests we'll end up with a solidly middlebrow dune which won't satisfy anyone. what's the point in a dune which isn't batshit?!

stanley weebeard (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:25 (four years ago) link

"...and Brad Pitt as Leto."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:26 (four years ago) link

when I think of the best guy to helm a mushroom fueled sci fi epic I think of the dude who wrote forrest gump

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:33 (four years ago) link

nerds everywhere increasingly ambivalent

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Thursday, 6 April 2017 00:29 (four years ago) link

we're talking Robocop remake ambivalent

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:07 (four years ago) link

I note that this fellow, who is indeed an industry pro (to a fault, perhaps) also wrote The Horse Whisperer and The Concorde...Airport 79.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:40 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I feel like if Blade Runner 2049 bombs maybe this doesn't have to happen

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:07 (four years ago) link

At least not with that screenwriter either.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:10 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

Well, it's still happening and...this is actually a smart idea.

https://www.avclub.com/denis-villeneuve-says-hes-now-making-two-dune-movies-1823660070

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:50 (three years ago) link

this guy started out so promisingly, and now it's nerdstuff til he's done

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:54 (three years ago) link

Gotta get paid. To be fair this is top tier nerd stuff, imo.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:59 (three years ago) link

nertz to that, other filmmakers alternate lucre with arthouse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:02 (three years ago) link

Kinda having it both ways simultaneously now. As much as you can for Mega Budget sci fi. I’m glad he’s around and doing these things.

circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:09 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

LONG LIVE THE CHALAMET

Timothee Chalamet (@RealChalamet) in talks to star in Denis Villeneuve's 'Dune' https://t.co/CLKsqLD7jV pic.twitter.com/k6r8WvadDU

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) July 16, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2018 20:36 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to think of who they could cast to plausibly lose a duel to T.C. Paul Dano?

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2018 20:46 (three years ago) link

Smart move

I have just received Draft #4 of the DUNE screenplay from Legendary Pictures. This is for the first movie, covering approximately half of the novel DUNE. I'm very excited and pleased about this, and I'm beginning to burn the midnight oil. pic.twitter.com/nIfgb2zJ2J

— Brian Herbert (@DuneAuthor) July 23, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:37 (three years ago) link

Feel like Brian Herbert being very excited and pleased about the dune screenplay is a bad sign.

Dan I., Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:44 (three years ago) link

Oh my god yes, get him away from it!
"DuneAuthor" as his Twitter handle, what a nerve.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:50 (three years ago) link

If I wanted to read the Dune series should I stop at Chapterhouse or are their post Frank Herbert books worth reading?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:34 (three years ago) link

The consensus is that the post-FH books are pretty weak fanfic at best. Certainly when I picked one of them up in a bookstore I found the writing cringeworthy, and apparently the stories are not much chop ("you know how they ended up banning thinking machines? well here's a story where a thinking machine went bad and t was bad for humanity so they fought back and outlawed them").

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 04:42 (three years ago) link

Ok so basically like ‘Solo’ then, got it, thanks.

I never got further than ‘Children’ and that was years ago. I wouldn’t mind revisiting them.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 13:56 (three years ago) link

I think I have about 150 pages or so left to read in Chapterhouse Dune. I stopped reading it about 20 years ago, every once in a while I have the urge to go back and finish it. I still have the book on the bookshelf with the bookmark where I stopped.

silverfish, Thursday, 26 July 2018 14:02 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

(Kinda brilliant, really -- that was the only role I could guess would work for him and behold. Also enough of a blank slate character in the book that they can really go to town.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:11 (two years ago) link

And Stellan Skarsgard as Baron Harkonnen

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stellan-skarsg-play-villain-legendarys-dune-1174870

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 21:00 (two years ago) link

This cast is getting more and more interesting by the day. Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/charlotte-rampling-joins-timothee-chalamet-dune-1176429

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:57 (two years ago) link

I saw the Lynch version for the first time last year and was surprised to find that it was a faithful and fairly straight-ahead adaptation of the book, hampered by apparently not having shot enough scenes, or else having had the connective tissue edited out by the studio and replaced by voiceover in a panic

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:07 (two years ago) link

anyway I'll watch this for Timothee

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:08 (two years ago) link

Herbert’s characterization beyond Paul and Jessica is pretty light,- even everyone’s favorite character, Duncan Idaho is barely in the book, so there’s a lot that casting can bring to the table. I like it so far.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:36 (two years ago) link

somebody should write this up

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:37 (two years ago) link

*slapping roof of dune* this narrative can absorb so many lies of political convenience

^^^not even actually a joke, it's what the book is about

mark s, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 10:49 (three weeks ago) link

A sandworm wouldnt swallow it but look here we are

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 10:56 (three weeks ago) link

the bene gesserit would know about this lie of political convenience given that they usually author them, but you've reminded me that the book at least tells of jessica nearly discovering him when she misreads darth yueh's switch to the dark side.

iirc she is probing Yueh's hatred of the harkonnen when she receives an interrupting vision that her thopter warranty has expired. Herbert foresaw everything.

at that stage in the story herbert is pedal-to-the-metal on the "strategics of love" vs the "tactics of hate" i think, leto glumly and somewhat self-hating talking to paul abt the atriedes propaganda flooding arrakis, about how he's kind and not cruel and etc, and then we see the power of loyalty unfold vs how the harkonnens do things, and the harkonnens are kinda dumb -- their thing nearly fully fucks up right at the start and carries on fucking up despite them now having all the resources and also all the imperial support. except of course FH's moral is "well hate is bad adn stupid yes, imagine now that you have a supersmart leader-prophet that ppl adoringly follow out of love -- imagine how much WORSE that might be!"

mark s, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 20:23 (three weeks ago) link

Folks, I'm sorry in advance but I'm going to shit up the thread...

My reaction to this is that you could see this on a double/triple-plusIMAX++++ screen with MBV's sound system and none of it will do any good because this script (and what to leave in or out) was by the same dudes who gave you The Concorde Airport '79, Forrest Gump, The Postman, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close, the latest A Star Is Born, Prometheus, Doctor Strange, and Passengers. It's one heck of a foundation of wet cardboard to build a space opera on.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 07:55 (three weeks ago) link

I may be the only person in the world who went to see it in a theater and came away disliking it - like serious dislike - all the flaws in sharp relief the size of a building.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 08:01 (three weeks ago) link

I mean it was OK enough first seeing it on my laptop screen in a haze of Moderna booster, but taking it on again as a proper movie in a theater just exposes it for what it is as a very good looking book of art stills populated by people who don't want to be there.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 08:12 (three weeks ago) link

Gawd, yes, Elvis, felt the same about after being in the cinema....and even the visual side was a let down, in the sense that it really didn't linger on many of the big moments..for example, they asked Stellan Skarsgård to sit in a vat of oil or whatever and I expected this scene to start revelling in the weird, macabre aspects of the harkonnen but it flashes by without any poignancy, like the rest of the film. It lacked a trust in the actors to bring the story to life and the cast looked bored amongst the stale green screen set pieces

Swanswans, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 11:06 (three weeks ago) link

Half of Villeneuve’s movies, especially the large release science fiction ones (Arrival, BR 2049, this Dune) remind me of Underworld’s song Pearl’s Girl because at some point you’re going to see lingering shots of

the water on stone
the water on concrete
the water on sand.


lucky he had some caladan material to sneak that in, along with the very moist harkonnens

mh, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:36 (three weeks ago) link

baron's floating, baron's floating

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:43 (three weeks ago) link

Baron Saturday?

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 15:54 (three weeks ago) link

part 2 needs a rival aesthetic intruding against the relentless malickness, alia is the correct character to hang this on

mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 11:29 (three weeks ago) link

part 2 needs a rival aesthetic intruding against the relentless malickness, alia is the correct character to hang this on

Split directing duties between Villeneuve and Paul W.S. Anderson. He knows how to shoot deserts, too (cf. Monster Hunter, the third or fourth Resident Evil). He’s good with slow motion too.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 November 2021 11:52 (three weeks ago) link

split the difference and give it to wes anderson

mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:01 (three weeks ago) link

get Ken Loach in, the pisshead guy who played Les Battersby can replace Bautista

calzino, Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:09 (three weeks ago) link

"wes anderson's dune" parody sketch practically writes itself, but i for one think Owen Wilson would make a fantastic Feyd-Rautha

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:32 (three weeks ago) link

worm is a long line of schoolchildren in worm masks

mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:35 (three weeks ago) link

White Stripes = we're going to be Fremen on the soundtrack.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 11 November 2021 12:42 (three weeks ago) link

Animal Farm by The Kinks over worm riding montage

What it's like. Havana Syndrome. What it's like. Havana Syndrom (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 11 November 2021 15:06 (three weeks ago) link

We come from the land where sandworms blow
From the hot-ass sun where the spice must flow

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 November 2021 15:26 (three weeks ago) link

watched it again with Dad this past weekend, liked it a bit more but it's still like an excessively packaged double swirl vinyl rerelease of a classic album where it's been remastered and brickwalled all to hell... I predict Half Price Books will contain roughly 500 copies of this on Blu-Ray within a year.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Thursday, 11 November 2021 15:27 (three weeks ago) link

does this movie sync up with dopesmoker y/y

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:04 (three weeks ago) link

Michael Mann's Dune, featuring 30 mins of unreleased Audioslave songs.

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Thursday, 11 November 2021 16:42 (three weeks ago) link

bummed to find that this has already been booted down from all the *really* big screens in NYC for our planned rewatch. guess i'll have to hope for an auteurist Villeneuve series at Metrograph or something.

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:13 (three weeks ago) link

read that as an amateurist series and why not eh

mark s, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:16 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah I wanted to go see it on IMAX or whatever the next best is, but it was only on "standard screens" as of last week. So we turned out the lights and watched on HBOMax on our TV.

DJI, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:18 (three weeks ago) link

If you’re in the DC area this will be back at the Smithsonian IMAX in northern Virginia the last two weekends of November.

Chris L, Thursday, 11 November 2021 18:18 (three weeks ago) link

The biggest complaint I have about seeing this in a theater: having to watch - I shit you not - 10 freaking trailers before the movie started

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 November 2021 03:31 (three weeks ago) link

Trailers are good tho

fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Sunday, 14 November 2021 10:44 (three weeks ago) link

cinemas back baby

mark s, Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:05 (three weeks ago) link

We didn't get any adverts or trailers because of a problem with the projector and I'm still a bit sore (not about the adverts though).

namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:41 (three weeks ago) link

I love trailers, but have a slight punctuality impairment so usually miss them.

chap, Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:45 (three weeks ago) link

I used to like them when I was a young and naively enthusiastic enough cinema goer to think some of this garbage might turn out to be good!

calzino, Sunday, 14 November 2021 11:59 (three weeks ago) link

They weren’t all bad, and some of these are things I’ll probably see. It’s just … 10 trailers is a LOT.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 14 November 2021 12:25 (three weeks ago) link

Yeah the enjoyment curve for trailers peaks around 6 for me, and after that it starts getting annoying. 10 would be tough to bear

Vinnie, Sunday, 14 November 2021 12:53 (three weeks ago) link

Finally got around to seeing this this weekend. Loved the look of this movie. Kind of difficult to judge otherwise since despite the length it only feels like half a movie. Watching the movie I couldn't help but feel that somebody who hasn't read the books would be a bit lost, but I think there's enough random info thrown in here and there to make a person understand a lot in a very broad sense. I went with my son who was totally unfamiliar with Dune and he seemed to mostly get it, though he didn't really get what the Bene Gesserit's role in all of this is supposed to be or why they have superpowers.

silverfish, Monday, 15 November 2021 16:50 (three weeks ago) link

I was on a panel chat last night talking about the film and we pretty much all agreed that Hans Zimmer’s score was forgettable(in that none of us remembered anything about it) but the sound design was top-notch

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 19 November 2021 16:54 (two weeks ago) link

Stops streaming on hbo after this weekend. Watched it for the third time with my mom last night. =D

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 20 November 2021 23:36 (two weeks ago) link

Stops streaming on hbo after this weekend. Watched it for the third time with my mom last night. =D

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 20 November 2021 23:36 (two weeks ago) link

Some Ghost in the Shell soundtrack vibes at the end

calstars, Sunday, 21 November 2021 14:07 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTPNaUsjksM

calstars, Sunday, 21 November 2021 14:09 (two weeks ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHPkdMGI6D4

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:34 (one week ago) link

Coming back to IMAX, baby!

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:53 (one week ago) link

dune, but make it set at a start up pic.twitter.com/gFZC98URbm

— Morgan A Baila (@morganbaila) November 24, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:30 (one week ago) link

oooooo i'm stoked for that IMAX news!

I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:54 (one week ago) link

a million deaths are not enough for yueh (and that's why he's not in that picture)

mark s, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 23:12 (one week ago) link

pic.twitter.com/0s7Ym9kjNa

— Good Faces (@good_faces_bot) November 26, 2021

calzino, Friday, 26 November 2021 08:02 (one week ago) link

the ONLY good faces iirc

mark s, Friday, 26 November 2021 12:09 (one week ago) link


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