A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

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Nerds everywhere seem mostly ambivalent



The new Dune movie, being produced by Legendary Pictures, marks the second time the book will be adapted on the big screen. The first adaptation, directed by David Lynch (Twin Peaks) in 1984 only made $30 million at the box office and was scorned by critics. Prior to Lynch’s adaptation, cult director Alejandro Jodorowsky tried to capture the world of Herbert’s book to no avail. The events and problems surrounding the making of the film were eventually collected and edited together in a 2013 documentary, Jodorowsky’s Dune.

There is no estimated release date for the project at this time.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:44 (five years ago) link

completely unnecessary!

the original is a stone cold classic

the late great, Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:55 (five years ago) link

totally into it

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:57 (five years ago) link

this guy is a menace

adam, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:07 (five years ago) link

it's gonna end up playing like Gods of Egypt.

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:14 (five years ago) link

This seems v unnecessary

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:39 (five years ago) link

Last (necessary) movies you saw [Started by Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz) in January 2003]

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:43 (five years ago) link

I guess I'm ok with this. I'm sure Villeneuve will make a visually interesting movie. The real problem is making some kind of good and coherent script out of Dune.

I'm not sure what qualities a movie needs to have to be necessary.

silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:40 (five years ago) link

Dune is maybe the worst novel i have ever finished aside from The Hotel New Hampshire

ambivalent or full of loathing, nerds will show up

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:42 (five years ago) link

(also i wd probably watch for free at home to see who inherits the thong from Sting and Matt Keeslaar)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:49 (five years ago) link

baron harkonnen is currently occupying the white house so there's plenty of latitude for villeneuve to play with heavy-handed allegory

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:52 (five years ago) link

could be watchable, but they'll probably need to make it a trilogy to capture everything. Also, please do not go overboard on CGI -- Dune is mostly talking and getting insight into what people are thinking, so if they do this right, more than billion dollar FX, they need good actors, screenwriter, and yeah the director.

Dominique, Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:11 (five years ago) link

like if they say "we wanted to make sure we got the sandworms juuuust right", it's gonna suck, badly

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:57 (five years ago) link

let lynch do it again

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:04 (five years ago) link

trailer better have exactly zero BRAAAAMMMMS in it
if there's a BRAAAAAMMMM with sandworms coming out of the ground trying to eat an ornithopter then basically, fuck everything

El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:08 (five years ago) link

haha you know that's exactly what it's going to be like

the late great, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:12 (five years ago) link

It'll be told from the sandworms' POV

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:10 (five years ago) link

ryan gosling running towards the screen, jumping, the sound DROPS OUT, he grabs onto a vehicle escaping, a sandworm JUMPS out of the ground behind him, jaws snapping (and a second, smaller but lengthier jaw snapping after him ever closer), and that "dying engine" sound kinda comes up on the soundtrack.

title card


tagline -- some things were never meant to be unearthed

nomar, Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:14 (five years ago) link




coming summer 2019

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:15 (five years ago) link

two months pass...



Variety reports that Eric Roth, who won an Oscar for his adapted screenplay for Forrest Gump, has been hired to adapt the Frank Herbert novel Dune for director Denis Villeneuve. Roth also wrote The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, The Insider, Munich, Ali, and many, many more. So even though you say the words “Forrest Gump” and some people get nauseous, Roth is still a writer who is respected and has worked with some of the best filmmakers of all time: Fincher, Mann, Spielberg, and Zemeckis, just to name a few.

This is good news.

Is it now.

Even if Roth has previously only written one science fiction film: Kevin Costner’s The Postman.


Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 20:38 (five years ago) link

to be fair, i suspect most of the problems with the postman were caused by costner's ego

i'm more concerned that this guy's track record suggests we'll end up with a solidly middlebrow dune which won't satisfy anyone. what's the point in a dune which isn't batshit?!

stanley weebeard (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:25 (five years ago) link

"...and Brad Pitt as Leto."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:26 (five years ago) link

when I think of the best guy to helm a mushroom fueled sci fi epic I think of the dude who wrote forrest gump

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:33 (five years ago) link

nerds everywhere increasingly ambivalent

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Thursday, 6 April 2017 00:29 (five years ago) link

we're talking Robocop remake ambivalent

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:07 (five years ago) link

I note that this fellow, who is indeed an industry pro (to a fault, perhaps) also wrote The Horse Whisperer and The Concorde...Airport 79.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:40 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

I feel like if Blade Runner 2049 bombs maybe this doesn't have to happen

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:07 (five years ago) link

At least not with that screenwriter either.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:10 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

Well, it's still happening and...this is actually a smart idea.


Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:50 (four years ago) link

this guy started out so promisingly, and now it's nerdstuff til he's done

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:54 (four years ago) link

Gotta get paid. To be fair this is top tier nerd stuff, imo.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:59 (four years ago) link

nertz to that, other filmmakers alternate lucre with arthouse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:02 (four years ago) link

Kinda having it both ways simultaneously now. As much as you can for Mega Budget sci fi. I’m glad he’s around and doing these things.

circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:09 (four years ago) link

four months pass...


Timothee Chalamet (@RealChalamet) in talks to star in Denis Villeneuve's 'Dune' https://t.co/CLKsqLD7jV pic.twitter.com/k6r8WvadDU

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) July 16, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2018 20:36 (four years ago) link

I'm trying to think of who they could cast to plausibly lose a duel to T.C. Paul Dano?

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2018 20:46 (four years ago) link

Smart move

I have just received Draft #4 of the DUNE screenplay from Legendary Pictures. This is for the first movie, covering approximately half of the novel DUNE. I'm very excited and pleased about this, and I'm beginning to burn the midnight oil. pic.twitter.com/nIfgb2zJ2J

— Brian Herbert (@DuneAuthor) July 23, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:37 (four years ago) link

Feel like Brian Herbert being very excited and pleased about the dune screenplay is a bad sign.

Dan I., Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:44 (four years ago) link

Oh my god yes, get him away from it!
"DuneAuthor" as his Twitter handle, what a nerve.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:50 (four years ago) link

If I wanted to read the Dune series should I stop at Chapterhouse or are their post Frank Herbert books worth reading?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:34 (four years ago) link

The consensus is that the post-FH books are pretty weak fanfic at best. Certainly when I picked one of them up in a bookstore I found the writing cringeworthy, and apparently the stories are not much chop ("you know how they ended up banning thinking machines? well here's a story where a thinking machine went bad and t was bad for humanity so they fought back and outlawed them").

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 04:42 (four years ago) link

Ok so basically like ‘Solo’ then, got it, thanks.

I never got further than ‘Children’ and that was years ago. I wouldn’t mind revisiting them.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 13:56 (four years ago) link

I think I have about 150 pages or so left to read in Chapterhouse Dune. I stopped reading it about 20 years ago, every once in a while I have the urge to go back and finish it. I still have the book on the bookshelf with the bookmark where I stopped.

silverfish, Thursday, 26 July 2018 14:02 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

(Kinda brilliant, really -- that was the only role I could guess would work for him and behold. Also enough of a blank slate character in the book that they can really go to town.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:11 (three years ago) link

And Stellan Skarsgard as Baron Harkonnen


Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 21:00 (three years ago) link

This cast is getting more and more interesting by the day. Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam.


Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:57 (three years ago) link

I saw the Lynch version for the first time last year and was surprised to find that it was a faithful and fairly straight-ahead adaptation of the book, hampered by apparently not having shot enough scenes, or else having had the connective tissue edited out by the studio and replaced by voiceover in a panic

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:07 (three years ago) link

anyway I'll watch this for Timothee

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:08 (three years ago) link

Herbert’s characterization beyond Paul and Jessica is pretty light,- even everyone’s favorite character, Duncan Idaho is barely in the book, so there’s a lot that casting can bring to the table. I like it so far.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:36 (three years ago) link

somebody should write this up

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:37 (three years ago) link

One new answer from forksclovetofu - thought Dune was somehow eligible for the TV poll

Vinnie, Thursday, 27 January 2022 00:57 (ten months ago) link


lukas, Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:01 (ten months ago) link

that weird slimy dog thing should get an oscar for best actor

i know it’s not real
i know it’s not in the book
i do not care

mh, Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:15 (ten months ago) link

vinnie, put your hand in the pain box and vote

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 January 2022 01:58 (ten months ago) link

I'm not sure how widespread this is, but at least in NYC, they've put this back into multiplexes, including IMAX screens, for at least a few times this week. Must be part of their Oscar campaign? I've gotten a lot of For Your Consideration ads for it lately.

The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 30 January 2022 19:19 (ten months ago) link

their Isaac campaign

Ár an broc a mhic (darraghmac), Sunday, 30 January 2022 20:06 (ten months ago) link

rules in IMAX. the second viewing definitely highlighted some issues for me (including a couple of takes from Chalamet that rang a little false this time around)..... but also let me just kick back and embrace the audiovisual journey. this thing gets so much more value out of its CGI just by slowing the fuck down and letting me sit in the weirdness of these alien worlds. still, part ii better stick the landing.

The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Monday, 31 January 2022 00:01 (ten months ago) link

It's kind of wild to me how much better this was in IMAX, don't think I've felt that way about a film before

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 31 January 2022 00:40 (ten months ago) link

There's less notable contrast at certain points in IMAX but it is a truly immersive and striking watch that way, no lie.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 January 2022 02:04 (ten months ago) link

Pretty good watch, this. Did not expect the Lee "Scratch" Perry mention.


Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 February 2022 03:29 (ten months ago) link

And the nominees for Best Picture are... #Oscars pic.twitter.com/wKEWVMpqwl

— The Academy (@TheAcademy) February 8, 2022

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 8 February 2022 19:16 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

feyd feyd feyd https://t.co/jmHC2IzGhN

— Max Rebo’s Roadie (@KevKoeser) March 7, 2022

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terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 March 2022 17:26 (nine months ago) link

weirding module but it's a snapchat filter

mark s, Monday, 7 March 2022 17:29 (nine months ago) link

Guys, you know he wants to play a sandworm

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 March 2022 17:30 (nine months ago) link

kwizpatz etc

mark s, Monday, 7 March 2022 17:31 (nine months ago) link

guild navigator would be good too xp

, Monday, 7 March 2022 17:41 (nine months ago) link

I'm hearing Villeneuve's next project is Rendevouz with Rama.

(Creams self and dies)

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 04:18 (nine months ago) link


EXCLUSIVE: Austin Butler is in negotiations to play Feyd-Rautha in Warner Bros. and Legendary’s ‘Dune Part Two’ https://t.co/g0jwKSTOv0

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) March 10, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2022 20:55 (eight months ago) link

As noted, this means the literal new Elvis would also be Feyd, which is different from Sting, and yet.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 March 2022 20:57 (eight months ago) link

Meantime, a bit via io9:

During a recent interview with The Playlist, screenwriter Jon Spaights confirmed Dune, Part II will set up a potential third movie, Dune Messiah:

Dune Messiah is the next book, and it’s one of three books with Dune, Dune Messiah, and Children of Dune, that covers the lives of the characters we meet in the first novel. Subsequently, there’s a giant leap in time and the series gets stranger and more epic as it carries on. But Dune Messiah picks up years after the close of Dune, and yes, Denis has talked seriously about making that film as well, as a conclusion of the trilogy. Dune Messiah is a very interesting book, which in some ways, deconstructs Dune and plays as a cautionary tale, even more than Dune does, about the dangers of blending religion and politics, the hazards of following charismatic leaders, and the dangerous struggle that’s always alive between the individual and institutions.

There are a few tantalizing strands that lead into the future and suggest that we might not be done in this universe, despite the fact that the ending of Dune as a novel, which will be the ending of the second film, is a very satisfying conclusion. There are a number of ways in which the book also sounds ominous notes, and there are hints of foreboding about what made be yet to come.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 March 2022 16:16 (eight months ago) link

Here’s the full interview from The Playlist, which has a fair bit more:

mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 21:30 (eight months ago) link

This is probably a typo/transcription error, but I want to believe it’s what he said

Because of the world, you have built, are there any thoughts of leaving the door open at the end of the second film for a third film? I believe “Messiah” is the next book in that respect.

Yes. Frank Herbert wrote six novels, I believe, with a seventh partially completed upon his death that was completed preposterously by his son.

mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 21:31 (eight months ago) link

where's the lie

mark s, Monday, 14 March 2022 21:33 (eight months ago) link


mh, Monday, 14 March 2022 21:34 (eight months ago) link

Sure is getting a lot of the technical Oscars here.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 March 2022 00:55 (eight months ago) link

Timothee Chalamet's sparkly Judi Dench jacket and salamander's bare chest = look of the year

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 March 2022 01:06 (eight months ago) link

Poor JK Simmons.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Monday, 28 March 2022 01:10 (eight months ago) link

hope the sound team won an award or two, the doc made them seem like the most endearingly dedicated nerds <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 March 2022 01:42 (eight months ago) link

the won the sound award (there's only one now) as they should have

call all destroyer, Monday, 28 March 2022 01:53 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

Meantime the prequel TV series continues being a thing:


The “Dune” prequel series at HBO Max has brought Johan Renck onboard to direct the first two episodes.

Renck will also serve as an executive producer on the show, currently titled “Dune: The Sisterhood.” It was ordered straight-to-series at HBO Max in June 2019. Previously, “Dune” director and co-writer Denis Villeneuve was attached to direct the pilot for “Dune: The Sisterhood,” but his work on the “Dune” sequel film will prevent him from doing so.

The show is set 10,000 years prior to the events of “Dune” and follows the Harkonnen Sisters as they combat forces that threaten the future of humankind, and establish the fabled sect known as the Bene Gesserit.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:05 (seven months ago) link

good to know that the vastness of the known universe across millennia only runs to three families of note

mark s, Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:09 (seven months ago) link

Well you know

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:51 (seven months ago) link

feel like there's another sci-fi ish franchise where the entire universe revolves around a few families

Deez NFTs (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:54 (seven months ago) link

Yup, Weyland and Yutani

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:57 (seven months ago) link

kickstarter for ridley to introduce alucard harkonnen-butler into the xenomorph mythos

mark s, Thursday, 28 April 2022 15:59 (seven months ago) link

If I see the name Brian Herbert attached to so much as the on-set craft services I am kicking the series to the kerb

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 28 April 2022 18:28 (seven months ago) link

They list executive producers further down in the article. It's crawling with Herberts.

jmm, Thursday, 28 April 2022 18:46 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

So it looks like the additions to the cast for the sequel are:

Austin Butler as Feyd, noted earlier
Florence Pugh as Irulan
Christopher Walken as Shaddam IV

And announced today: Lea Seydoux as Lady Margot Fenring

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 20:36 (five months ago) link

no complaints!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 21 June 2022 21:54 (five months ago) link

Yeah it's pretty solid -- will be interested to see if Margot's husband Hasimir gets cast too, and also who will play Harah, which is about the only other notable role from the novel I can think of remaining...well except for Alia of course and I do wonder how exactly they'll handle her.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 21 June 2022 22:02 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

i think i'm one of the only people to have watched the truly awful syfy Children of Dune miniseries (james mcavoy! susan sarandon!). they pronounce the girl's name "Cheney," it's a wreck

― goole, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 02:11 (ten months ago) bookmarkflaglink

im watching the very end of it right now (it was on LEGEND channel)

omg steven berkoff as stilgar

mark s, Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:17 (three months ago) link

everyone is very pretty and golden

mark s, Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:18 (three months ago) link

I was not able to make it very far into this series when it came out, none of it felt right to me

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 3 September 2022 16:43 (three months ago) link

yes they didnt find a way to make leto ii power-running thru the sand look non-stupid

mark s, Saturday, 3 September 2022 16:52 (three months ago) link

I finally saw the movie last night as it is on streaming for HBO. Beautifully done. It is one of the best looking science fiction movies I have seen in years. The invasion sequence was really well done.

I'd love to see the director and designers of this movie take a crack at Moorcock's Elric. There was something about how the buildings looked that made me think they could do a pretty wicked looking version of Melnibone.

earlnash, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:15 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

So the spinoff series is kicking in


Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 18:03 (two weeks ago) link

More direct!


Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 November 2022 18:03 (two weeks ago) link

I also managed to see this movie this week and was very pleasantly surprised. It's both visually stunning and surprisingly well cast. Not only the principals, but the smaller roles--Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam, for example, and Sharon Duncan-Brewster as Liet-Kynes turn in solid performances. Unlike earlier efforts, this film did not betray my imagination.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 1 December 2022 18:46 (one week ago) link

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