A thread about the Denis Villeneuve-helmed reboot of DUNE

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Nerds everywhere seem mostly ambivalent

https://www.cnet.com/news/as-if-blade-runner-wasnt-enough-denis-villeneuve-is-rebooting-dune/

http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/1/14469524/dune-director-denis-villeneuve-arrival-blade-runner

The new Dune movie, being produced by Legendary Pictures, marks the second time the book will be adapted on the big screen. The first adaptation, directed by David Lynch (Twin Peaks) in 1984 only made $30 million at the box office and was scorned by critics. Prior to Lynch’s adaptation, cult director Alejandro Jodorowsky tried to capture the world of Herbert’s book to no avail. The events and problems surrounding the making of the film were eventually collected and edited together in a 2013 documentary, Jodorowsky’s Dune.

There is no estimated release date for the project at this time.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:44 (four years ago) link

completely unnecessary!

the original is a stone cold classic

the late great, Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:55 (four years ago) link

totally into it

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:57 (four years ago) link

this guy is a menace

adam, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:07 (four years ago) link

it's gonna end up playing like Gods of Egypt.

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:14 (four years ago) link

This seems v unnecessary

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:39 (four years ago) link

Last (necessary) movies you saw [Started by Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz) in January 2003]

mookieproof, Thursday, 2 February 2017 02:43 (four years ago) link

I guess I'm ok with this. I'm sure Villeneuve will make a visually interesting movie. The real problem is making some kind of good and coherent script out of Dune.

I'm not sure what qualities a movie needs to have to be necessary.

silverfish, Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:40 (four years ago) link

Dune is maybe the worst novel i have ever finished aside from The Hotel New Hampshire

ambivalent or full of loathing, nerds will show up

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:42 (four years ago) link

(also i wd probably watch for free at home to see who inherits the thong from Sting and Matt Keeslaar)

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:49 (four years ago) link

baron harkonnen is currently occupying the white house so there's plenty of latitude for villeneuve to play with heavy-handed allegory

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 15:52 (four years ago) link

could be watchable, but they'll probably need to make it a trilogy to capture everything. Also, please do not go overboard on CGI -- Dune is mostly talking and getting insight into what people are thinking, so if they do this right, more than billion dollar FX, they need good actors, screenwriter, and yeah the director.

Dominique, Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:11 (four years ago) link

like if they say "we wanted to make sure we got the sandworms juuuust right", it's gonna suck, badly

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 February 2017 17:57 (four years ago) link

let lynch do it again

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:04 (four years ago) link

trailer better have exactly zero BRAAAAMMMMS in it
if there's a BRAAAAAMMMM with sandworms coming out of the ground trying to eat an ornithopter then basically, fuck everything

El Tomboto, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:08 (four years ago) link

haha you know that's exactly what it's going to be like

the late great, Thursday, 2 February 2017 21:12 (four years ago) link

It'll be told from the sandworms' POV

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:10 (four years ago) link

ryan gosling running towards the screen, jumping, the sound DROPS OUT, he grabs onto a vehicle escaping, a sandworm JUMPS out of the ground behind him, jaws snapping (and a second, smaller but lengthier jaw snapping after him ever closer), and that "dying engine" sound kinda comes up on the soundtrack.

title card

DUNE

tagline -- some things were never meant to be unearthed

nomar, Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:14 (four years ago) link

SPICE

MUST

FLOW

coming summer 2019

for sale: steve bannon waifu pillow (heavily soiled) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 February 2017 22:15 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Uh.

http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-new-dune-movie-is-being-written-by-the-man-who-wrot-1794046167

Variety reports that Eric Roth, who won an Oscar for his adapted screenplay for Forrest Gump, has been hired to adapt the Frank Herbert novel Dune for director Denis Villeneuve. Roth also wrote The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, The Insider, Munich, Ali, and many, many more. So even though you say the words “Forrest Gump” and some people get nauseous, Roth is still a writer who is respected and has worked with some of the best filmmakers of all time: Fincher, Mann, Spielberg, and Zemeckis, just to name a few.

This is good news.

Is it now.

Even if Roth has previously only written one science fiction film: Kevin Costner’s The Postman.

IS IT GOOD NEWS NOW.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 20:38 (four years ago) link

to be fair, i suspect most of the problems with the postman were caused by costner's ego

i'm more concerned that this guy's track record suggests we'll end up with a solidly middlebrow dune which won't satisfy anyone. what's the point in a dune which isn't batshit?!

stanley weebeard (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:25 (four years ago) link

"...and Brad Pitt as Leto."

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:26 (four years ago) link

when I think of the best guy to helm a mushroom fueled sci fi epic I think of the dude who wrote forrest gump

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 5 April 2017 21:33 (four years ago) link

nerds everywhere increasingly ambivalent

Not the real Tombot (El Tomboto), Thursday, 6 April 2017 00:29 (four years ago) link

we're talking Robocop remake ambivalent

PURE, BEAUTIFUL OIL (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:07 (four years ago) link

I note that this fellow, who is indeed an industry pro (to a fault, perhaps) also wrote The Horse Whisperer and The Concorde...Airport 79.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2017 01:40 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I feel like if Blade Runner 2049 bombs maybe this doesn't have to happen

El Tomboto, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:07 (four years ago) link

At least not with that screenwriter either.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 15 July 2017 20:10 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

Well, it's still happening and...this is actually a smart idea.

https://www.avclub.com/denis-villeneuve-says-hes-now-making-two-dune-movies-1823660070

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:50 (three years ago) link

this guy started out so promisingly, and now it's nerdstuff til he's done

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:54 (three years ago) link

Gotta get paid. To be fair this is top tier nerd stuff, imo.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:59 (three years ago) link

nertz to that, other filmmakers alternate lucre with arthouse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:02 (three years ago) link

Kinda having it both ways simultaneously now. As much as you can for Mega Budget sci fi. I’m glad he’s around and doing these things.

circa1916, Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:09 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

LONG LIVE THE CHALAMET

Timothee Chalamet (@RealChalamet) in talks to star in Denis Villeneuve's 'Dune' https://t.co/CLKsqLD7jV pic.twitter.com/k6r8WvadDU

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) July 16, 2018

Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2018 20:36 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to think of who they could cast to plausibly lose a duel to T.C. Paul Dano?

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 July 2018 20:46 (three years ago) link

Smart move

I have just received Draft #4 of the DUNE screenplay from Legendary Pictures. This is for the first movie, covering approximately half of the novel DUNE. I'm very excited and pleased about this, and I'm beginning to burn the midnight oil. pic.twitter.com/nIfgb2zJ2J

— Brian Herbert (@DuneAuthor) July 23, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:37 (three years ago) link

Feel like Brian Herbert being very excited and pleased about the dune screenplay is a bad sign.

Dan I., Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:44 (three years ago) link

Oh my god yes, get him away from it!
"DuneAuthor" as his Twitter handle, what a nerve.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:50 (three years ago) link

If I wanted to read the Dune series should I stop at Chapterhouse or are their post Frank Herbert books worth reading?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 03:34 (three years ago) link

The consensus is that the post-FH books are pretty weak fanfic at best. Certainly when I picked one of them up in a bookstore I found the writing cringeworthy, and apparently the stories are not much chop ("you know how they ended up banning thinking machines? well here's a story where a thinking machine went bad and t was bad for humanity so they fought back and outlawed them").

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 26 July 2018 04:42 (three years ago) link

Ok so basically like ‘Solo’ then, got it, thanks.

I never got further than ‘Children’ and that was years ago. I wouldn’t mind revisiting them.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 July 2018 13:56 (three years ago) link

I think I have about 150 pages or so left to read in Chapterhouse Dune. I stopped reading it about 20 years ago, every once in a while I have the urge to go back and finish it. I still have the book on the bookshelf with the bookmark where I stopped.

silverfish, Thursday, 26 July 2018 14:02 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

(Kinda brilliant, really -- that was the only role I could guess would work for him and behold. Also enough of a blank slate character in the book that they can really go to town.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 January 2019 23:11 (two years ago) link

And Stellan Skarsgard as Baron Harkonnen

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stellan-skarsg-play-villain-legendarys-dune-1174870

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 21:00 (two years ago) link

This cast is getting more and more interesting by the day. Charlotte Rampling as Gaius Helen Mohiam.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/charlotte-rampling-joins-timothee-chalamet-dune-1176429

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 00:57 (two years ago) link

I saw the Lynch version for the first time last year and was surprised to find that it was a faithful and fairly straight-ahead adaptation of the book, hampered by apparently not having shot enough scenes, or else having had the connective tissue edited out by the studio and replaced by voiceover in a panic

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:07 (two years ago) link

anyway I'll watch this for Timothee

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 01:08 (two years ago) link

Herbert’s characterization beyond Paul and Jessica is pretty light,- even everyone’s favorite character, Duncan Idaho is barely in the book, so there’s a lot that casting can bring to the table. I like it so far.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:36 (two years ago) link

somebody should write this up

stuck in the Lidl with EU (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 03:37 (two years ago) link

New Dune trailer looks amazing pic.twitter.com/I8OlkUpxOm

— Beyond The Ninety (@IntoExtraTime) September 9, 2020

这是我的显示名称 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 11 September 2020 09:34 (ten months ago) link

FASTER FACE-DANCER! KILL!! KILL!!

mark s, Friday, 11 September 2020 10:23 (ten months ago) link

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/dune-trailer-pink-floyd-eclipse-streams-1058400/
"On Spotify — where “Eclipse” streams were up 54 percent on a whole — Eclipse witnessed an 86 percent influx of users listening to the track for the first time on September 9th."

such a weird non-story unless you include numbers of spins and not percentages. If it got 10k spins for the month and now gets 20k spins... big deal?

"digital sales of the song soared 1,750 percent" sounds good but what was the starting number? Did it sell even 100 copies this year prior to the trailer?

GLENNNNNNNN

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 12 September 2020 23:45 (ten months ago) link

two months pass...

Villeneuve is...not happy

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/dune-denis-villeneuve-blasts-warner-bros-1234851270/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 December 2020 19:16 (seven months ago) link

I wonder how these deals work if certain parties were to take home a percentage of the box office

biped, artisan, (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 11 December 2020 20:27 (seven months ago) link

It was crime at the time
But the laws, we changed 'em
Though the hero for hire's
Forever the same one

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:34 (seven months ago) link

What do these guys think the alternative is? Saying “everything’s gonna be back to normal next October” is... not true?

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:42 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, I get why they're annoyed but, like, get in line. I'm annoyed or upset or angry every day for reasons other than "my $200 million movie has been delayed and dumped on a premium streaming service and maybe because of that I won't get to make more $200 sequels." One thing that doesn't make me annoyed? If I want to see his "Dune," I don't have to wait (at least) another year. Hopefully things will be better in a year, and by "better" I mean a hundred things before I mean movie theaters are back open again.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:10 (seven months ago) link

I don’t really know what kind of honest response from the guy you’d like to hear about this? Not unreasonable.

circa1916, Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:37 (seven months ago) link

Alan Smithee redux?

pomenitul, Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:41 (seven months ago) link

I mean yeah, tiny violins for big time movie directors, but it’s not like he’s downplaying the pandemic, just the erratic and confusing handling of a big time passion project that’s 1/2 of a whole and the performance of that first half determines if a second half is made. Anyone would be lying through their teeth if they were all “Yeah, totally cool” about it. Doubt he’d be upset about delaying it further if October theater going was still unworkable.

circa1916, Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:58 (seven months ago) link

i wouldn't say that getting to see the first dune movie early is a win if the endgame is that no one funds the second one

call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:58 (seven months ago) link

he's one of a lot of people arguing that this could be the beginning of the end of the financial model by which large-scale movies are made, which is kind of a big deal

call all destroyer, Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:00 (seven months ago) link

He’s arguing that Warner bros should give it a theatrical release in October which... there’s just no universe where this movie comes out in October and makes $350m.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Saturday, 12 December 2020 05:40 (seven months ago) link

a lot of people arguing that this could be the beginning of the end of the financial model by which large-scale movies are made

I think it would depend entirely on whether that model has only been disrupted temporarily, causing massive capital losses that are tied to a social conditions that will eventually change back to something resembling 2019, or if the changes are permanent and irreversible. If only temporary, then there are still billions of dollars a year to be made by a resumption of large-scale movies. No studio will walk away from those kinds of profits. At present nothing that might replace that pre-virus model looks as lucrative as it was.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 12 December 2020 05:49 (seven months ago) link

He’s arguing that Warner bros should give it a theatrical release in October which... there’s just no universe where this movie comes out in October and makes $350m.


Yeah, he’s all in on October. October or bust. He obviously just wants a sensible theatrical release, doubt he cares about hitting a month.

circa1916, Saturday, 12 December 2020 09:42 (seven months ago) link

I honestly don't understand why there is any expectation this would necessarily do any better than Blade Runner 2049, even in the best of circumstances. I think that movie ended up doing OK, but it wasn't exactly a galvanizing event film.

Then again, looks Denis Villeneuve is eying a "Cleopatra" film next, so clearly making things anyone wants to see is not a real priority of his.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:22 (seven months ago) link

He’s arguing that Warner bros should give it a theatrical release in October

I'm confused, isn't that still happening? The current plan is a simultaneous release in theatres and HBO Max. I think Villeneuve's saying it should be theatres only, but he's arguing as though it won't be shown in theatres at all.

jmm, Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:29 (seven months ago) link

I *think* he's partly arguing that by October 2021 things will be back to normal and the collective theatrical experience will resume, so he wanted to stick with that rescheduled release date. Which ... who knows what even next week will bring at this rate. But then there's this:

Warner Bros.’ decision means “Dune” won’t have the chance to perform financially in order to be viable and piracy will ultimately triumph.
I guess he's (rightly) worried that streaming on HBO Max means that it will be online that much faster.

I dunno, I think he's (again, rightly) mostly pissed at having been taken by surprise by this corporate-minded decision. Because I'm with Soderbergh and others in thinking that until there's a streaming service that enables a single movie to bring in a billion dollars, then studios will be more than happy to stick with the theatrical model. Now, smaller movies might have more trouble than ever in the post-Covid era, but that's as much the problem with too-big-to-fail $200 million franchises themselves, in which case Villeneuve (or Nolan, et al.) isn't exactly helping the cause.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:52 (seven months ago) link

I honestly don't understand why there is any expectation this would necessarily do any better than Blade Runner 2049, even in the best of circumstances. I think that movie ended up doing OK, but it wasn't exactly a galvanizing event film.

Then again, looks Denis Villeneuve is eying a "Cleopatra" film next, so clearly making things anyone wants to see is not a real priority of his.


Some spectacularly dumb goal post tossing.

circa1916, Saturday, 12 December 2020 16:08 (seven months ago) link

Since we're Roku people and are not going to go see anything in a theater until the vaccine is widespread among the general populace, I'm with Villenueve here. I was hoping this would be a cool date night movie to see with my wife on a nice big screen and instead it's going to be a fart in a hurricane like every other big tentpole released during quarantine. Fuck Warner.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 12 December 2020 17:51 (seven months ago) link

You might be able to get hbo max on a computer and screen mirror?

biped, artisan, (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 12 December 2020 18:41 (seven months ago) link

Or... I could just tell AT&T to eat shit

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 12 December 2020 18:46 (seven months ago) link

I'm confused, isn't that still happening? The current plan is a simultaneous release in theatres and HBO Max. I think Villeneuve's saying it should be theatres only, but he's arguing as though it won't be shown in theatres at all.

His argument is about getting the second one made - by dual releasing it in October, the box office numbers are going to be smaller than they would otherwise be, because HBOMax revenue just for Dune isn't really quantifiable (and given studio shenanigans they will almost certainly downplay its value there). His fear that it will be treated as a flop which will then mean there's no Dune II: The Duning.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Saturday, 12 December 2020 18:53 (seven months ago) link

xp in my way, you at least get to see the movie. it doesn't feel as good, though.

biped, artisan, (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:29 (seven months ago) link

seven months pass...

It does, does it?

An Official Poster Banner of DUNE. pic.twitter.com/vVGmZ1xBa6

— ⊃∪∩⪽ (@DuneNews) July 19, 2021

Also IMAX trailer or something in the next couple of days.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 July 2021 16:09 (one week ago) link

:D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 July 2021 17:00 (one week ago) link

New #DuneMovie posters are out! This one is my favorite. pic.twitter.com/edywSvapTZ

— Dune Sietchposting (@Sietchposting) July 19, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 July 2021 17:31 (one week ago) link

I am very much looking forward to #Dune.

But the combination of this character name and that poster makes it look like a Nicholas Sparks adaptation about a salt-of-the-earth tractor repair man who has yet to figure out the mysteries of the human heart. https://t.co/qo5ejsaEms

— Darren Mooney (@Darren_Mooney) July 19, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 00:01 (one week ago) link

sorry that's the most tryhard tweet i've seen in a while

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 July 2021 00:58 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g18jFHCLXk

Number None, Thursday, 22 July 2021 13:37 (one week ago) link

oh good there's Banter

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 July 2021 13:53 (one week ago) link

Please please no spoilers on what is beginning

nashwan, Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:07 (one week ago) link

lotta momoa itt (in that trailer)

adam, Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:12 (one week ago) link

"Smile, Gurney." (literally nobody is smiling)

jmm, Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:24 (one week ago) link

Both what I expected and kinda not, so.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 14:56 (one week ago) link

looks great imo

rebecca ferguson was a great casting choice

na (NA), Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:07 (one week ago) link

Looks a little better than I expected, but still terrible.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:14 (one week ago) link

😢 pic.twitter.com/lq5h5CAlMS

— pixelatedboat aka “mr tweets” (@pixelatedboat) July 22, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:16 (one week ago) link

tbf to that tweet "duncan idaho" is one of the stupidest character names of all time

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:24 (one week ago) link

this looks good enough to me though. seems like they might have successfully threaded the needle re:depicting the tech & imagery described in the book faithfully without making it look completely ridiculous and camp

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:30 (one week ago) link

new trailer is much more exciting than the previous one

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:37 (one week ago) link

smart business move to make it so brown and dark that you need to see it in IMAX to make out wtf is going on

intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 22 July 2021 15:57 (one week ago) link

pic.twitter.com/RNexQYq68a

— the thicc husband & father (@lukeisamazing) July 22, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 20:26 (one week ago) link

lmao come on

The best part of casting a not-fat, not-gay actor in a fat gay role is them talking about how arduous the process is. Did they have to wear a fat suit?! How awful! Did they have to flirt with a guy?! The indignity! pic.twitter.com/Fn0Q3N5ylY

— Guy Branum (@guybranum) July 22, 2021

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 22 July 2021 21:25 (one week ago) link

slay, space pedo, work

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Thursday, 22 July 2021 21:26 (one week ago) link

A trailer breakdown for those inclined

https://gizmodo.com/breaking-down-the-sandworm-riding-and-space-folding-in-1847342233

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 21:31 (one week ago) link

Has anyone ever seen Stellan Skarsgård make any facial expression besides the one in that photo? Share your testimony, if so.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 22 July 2021 22:42 (one week ago) link

Pretty sure I remember him doing that face at various points in Hunt for Red October thirty years back, so no.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 July 2021 22:51 (one week ago) link


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