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Who's dangerous?

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

*ahem*

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link

No-one on ILX is dangerous, don't be silly, silby.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link

how could you possibly know that

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link

Because I've met the person you're talking about. I think. I'm guessing here.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link

one thing about coming to ilx as a female-identified person, at least, in the first 10 or so years of ilx ... sexual harrassment and uh, solicitation, was definitely present and gross. Not to dismiss board problems for posters who have transitioned while on ilx, or have come to ilx more recently -- like, not trying to engage in competitive suffering at all -- also, there are other ways ilx has treated posters like garbage that isn't any less garbage-y than the way ilx treated women for long time. Just, putting it out there, in case you weren't aware of that history and how it frames the way some posters may view ilx in re gender.

sarahell, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

OK, this person is not 'dangerous'.

Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

I remember you (among others) talking about this and it crosses my mind whenever someone waxes nostalgic about ILX's 'glory days'.

xp

pomenitul, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

maybe i am generalizing -- maybe married women didn't get the same abusive / creepy treatment -- maybe because i am creepy i got treated like garbage by dudes -- who knows! I also have a few entertaining stories, and at least one of the creepy dudes later apologized and we are friends now.

sarahell, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

maybe because i am creepy i got treated like garbage by dudes

You don't really mean this… at least I hope not.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

sarahell is being mordant there

Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

it's kinda a mindfuck the way this place has changed -- like idk Branwell has dealt with it much more intensively than I -- and there is a psychological thing where, when you are used to being attacked all the time (regardless of whether you were the instigator or not -- I don't want to cast myself as a victim), you end up getting defensive and assuming you are being attacked even when you aren't, so things become battles when they don't have to be

sarahell, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

Maybe I would have more sympathy with the poster involved if they hadn't decided to throw what I thought was our friendship in a raging fire by sending me a viciously abusive message, for having the absolute temerity to warn them that they might be repeatedly misgendering someone.

emil.y, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

sadly some people have a horrible history of being personally very nasty to people and they never apologise for it and that leads to them never getting the benefit of the doubt.

Oor Neechy, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

Maybe I would have more sympathy with the poster involved if they hadn't decided to throw what I thought was our friendship in a raging fire by sending me a viciously abusive message, for having the absolute temerity to warn them that they might be repeatedly misgendering someone.

― emil.y, Wednesday, July 29, 2020 3:21 PM (twenty minutes ago)

shocked, shocked etc

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

no I won't be glib, that's exactly the kind of behavior one learns to expect from this kind of person if you hang around them long enough.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:44 (three years ago) link

i'm also super wary of pile-ons which is what this is starting to feel like, because I remember having that happen to me at one point --

but also, as a corollary to the "being used to being attacked thing" re ilx, for folx who are regularly attacked IRL because of their identity, where ilx is a safe(r) space for them, a well-intentioned post that seems similar to the IRL grossness is also likely to provoke that defensive response -- and if we want to be decent people, we should be sensitive to that.

sarahell, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

needs to be both ways, sara

Oor Neechy, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link

If you treat someone like shit they will treat you back the same way

Oor Neechy, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link

and that's not aimed at any person.

Oor Neechy, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 22:59 (three years ago) link

that was meant in Brad's defense ... so idk what you are referring to?

sarahell, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

also re DJP being weirded out about all the black metal threads being bumped

sarahell, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:01 (three years ago) link

sadly some people have a horrible history of being personally very nasty to people and they never apologise for it and that leads to them never getting the benefit of the doubt.


Some people call that learning from experience.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

Some people do actually suck, and are bad people to have around your clubhouse

all cats are beautiful (silby), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link

No AFAB or AMAB on here please, just ACAB.

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 31 July 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

I do not like ice cream

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

Ice cream is good.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 July 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

assigned cantaloupe at birth

contorted filbert (harbl), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

I do not like ice cream


Blatant challop, fped

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link

xp

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link

I like to think mh was posting in bad faith.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 July 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

if it wasn't for bad faith we'd have no faith at all

— quarantine idle (@smk73) July 31, 2020

Anti-Cop Ponceortium (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

I like to think mh was posting in bad faith.


can confirm

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

are there people that are Assigned COPS at Birth??

sarahell, Friday, 31 July 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

Good old NAR

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 31 July 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

the haagen dazs with whiskey flavor -- is really fucking delicious

sarahell, Friday, 31 July 2020 22:05 (three years ago) link

Extraaz is amazing, had it for the first time the other day.

pomenitul, Friday, 31 July 2020 22:06 (three years ago) link

really sad that three twins went out of business -- their cardamom was my fave

sarahell, Friday, 31 July 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link

really fucked up but lol jfc

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Friday, 31 July 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

are you laughing at the discontinuation of my favorite ice cream, Florida Man????

sarahell, Friday, 31 July 2020 22:52 (three years ago) link

Wow it’s so surprising to me that so many cis men post on ilx

all cats are beautiful (silby), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link

we are your fathers and brothers, your neighbors, your fellow citizens, silby. we are many, but we are various. we contain multitudes.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link

I would suggest refraining from doing the “not all men” thing

brimstead, Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

struggling to figure out which thread this belongs to.

XVI Pedicabo eam (Neanderthal), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:58 (three years ago) link

Unfortunately not literally.

let them microwave their rice (gyac), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 10:09 (three years ago) link

Really glad I didn’t post anything flippant about noted author Adolf Hitler’s suicide now

Rishi don’t lose my voucher (wins), Thursday, 6 August 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

i hate having crushes tbh

sarahell, Thursday, 6 August 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link


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