Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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For the uninitiated, CTH is a very popular (to the tune of $30k+ per month coming in via Pateron) podcast by a group of foul-mouthed socialists with a tendency to tear into liberals with just as much (if not more) zeal than conservatives. They were recently profiled/critiqued in the New Yorker. The episode in which they respond to the article (mostly by viciously mocking the author and the New Yorker in general) is a decent introduction. There's also a critique of the critique, of course.

I'm interested in this growing notion of the "dirtbag left" and the increasing ranks of the DSA, which I recognize are partly separate phenomena. (There is an amusing schism in their demo between the very young and the very old.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:11 (three years ago) link

This was probably the best intro I ever read:

http://splitsider.com/2016/09/explaining-the-chapo-trap-house-podcast-to-the-uninitiated/

Which gets into the reference-heavy jag the show occasionally launches off on.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:17 (three years ago) link

these dudes sound pretty unpleasant tbh

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:22 (three years ago) link

I follow some dem socialists on Twitter and it took me like three goddamn months that it was a podcast and not just some sort of weird meme

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:23 (three years ago) link

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to progressive causes by something stronger than the tether between Hot Shots: Part Deux and the US Navy?

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:25 (three years ago) link

I have only heard a few recent episodes, but the divide in airtime between vulgar comic riffs and actual discussion/intvws is pretty much 50/50

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:27 (three years ago) link

to answer yr question more directly Tombot I have seen a *lot* of tweets w/ CTH fans flaunting their newly received Socialist Organizer mailers/cards, anecdotal certainly but not nothing

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:31 (three years ago) link

They're still spending way too much time complaining about Hillary, the election and their critics. I find it amusing enough as a light podcast for driving but they're going to have to move on to keep listeners.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:33 (three years ago) link

a vigorous and funny response to the alt-right is probably a good thing, but this just sounds like a load of jerks being jerks

iatee otm

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:33 (three years ago) link

This sounds pretty 'edgy'. I'll be interested to see what these guys do once they're out of high school.

DJ Untz Hall (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:38 (three years ago) link

I find it amusing enough as a light podcast for driving but they're going to have to move on to keep listeners.

Agreed, I think this will be a necessity after the inauguration anyway

tbh I mostly enjoy their eviscerations of liberal commentators/thinkers - fish in a barrel, sure, but undeniably satisfying

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:39 (three years ago) link

Have never listened to the show, read the article, I think i follow a couple of them on twitter. I hadn't realized they responded to the article with vicious mockery on their show, that's kind of a bummer since I saw them responding to outraged CTH devotees on twitter with essentially "chill the fuck out, it was a pretty good profile."

JoeStork, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:39 (three years ago) link

in the following episode they emphasized that they were embarrassed by people defending them

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:40 (three years ago) link

I think the 'jerks being jerks' stuff is overstated. I've listened to 10-12 eps now and there's nothing really offensive? They pick on dweeby Twitter people and pundits.

The episodes where they read from Ross Douthat and Megan McCardle's books are the best I've heard, followed by the interview with Adam Curtis.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:47 (three years ago) link

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to progressive causes by something stronger than the tether between Hot Shots: Part Deux and the US Navy?

It's an Air America show that can survive on its listener base, I don't think anyone's expecting them to start a revolution with a podcast. It's amusing to listen to a talk show with an actual left-wing viewpoint.

At least some of them are active with DSA and similar groups but they're also just relatively privileged liberal arts college NYC alt-media people.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:51 (three years ago) link

I'm realizing I could have asked the same question about Das Racist (RIP) and gotten kind of the same answer and it would have been fine. Why I felt the need to ask it of a podcast as if that requires a different kind of "authentic" pedigree is weird, and my thinking needs unpacking on that

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 02:00 (three years ago) link

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to dirtbag causes?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 02:35 (three years ago) link

I think I need it explained to me how they are not directly related

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:20 (three years ago) link

I've listened to most episodes, it's a great podcast. Their coverage of the primaries was often very funny. An early ep had a great guest who detailed the situation w teacher strikes in Mexico. Occasionally they do succumb to the more deluded and counter productive tendencies of hardcore Berners though.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:43 (three years ago) link

i'll out myself. matt's a thoughtful guy. felix is lol in most moods and he reminds me eerily of turkey-obsessed college friends i miss; also i found his les mis reading compelling. will clearly guides the whole thing and holds episodes together but imo is the blankest when he goes on the attack. some episodes really are just them giggling at their own press clips. thought it was completely hilarious that their william f buckley impression was actually a capt. peter peachfuzz impression.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:40 (three years ago) link

obviously the keep it negative dickhole zing crew should run podcasting

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:42 (three years ago) link

I don't think "keep it negative" is a fair summation of their worldview

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:44 (three years ago) link

a vigorous and funny response to the alt-right is probably a good thing, but this just sounds like a load of jerks being jerks

maybe if we brainstormed some more descriptions of trump's hair

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:49 (three years ago) link

afaict they're in the same gen x/millenial straddler segment as a bunch of my peers, sneer at the gen x detachment and corporate institutions equally, and are well-versed in the web communities that predate the 4chan weird bullshit, parallel to or members of somethingawful and other shit of the time

idk it's a thing where every political opinion coming from them seems like a deep-seated reaction from living through the late 90s and early 00s and that's the lens

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:49 (three years ago) link

douthat rip is savage

I'm trying to catch up to the Trap House but these things are like 90 minutes long. I'm on episode 4. By the time they're talking about current events, Trump's first term will be over

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:24 (three years ago) link

I thoroughly enjoy the Chapo Trap House. When I first discovered it it felt like a real catharsis to hear other people roughly my age or a little younger shredding New Democratism and bad centrist punditry of both liberal and conservative varieties but not in a lefty crank, counterpunch sort of way.

I can't say I love the new format with more regulars and preferred the dynamic of just Felix-Matt-Will. I like Amber and Virgil Texas individually I just don't feel like the show works as well with them regularly participating.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:27 (three years ago) link

ALSO as I think we talked about a little on the podcast thread, it seems harder for them to find their footing in a Trump world, now that the irrelevant centrist punditry has actually been rendered irrelevant.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:39 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to catch up to the Trap House but these things are like 90 minutes long. I'm on episode 4.

I've found that playback at 1.25x speed can be your friend.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:52 (three years ago) link

i couldn't get through an episode of this, even though i generally agree with them

it just... isn't funny at all, or insightful. probably because the things that are funny and insightful in sad leftist twitter aren't funny outside of sad leftist twitter

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:16 (three years ago) link

Whiney, just listen to the Freeway Ross Douthat episode then skip to current events. Discussing the conventions doesn't really work as entertainment six months after the fact.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:20 (three years ago) link

being a completionist about a politics podcast is the most onion a/v club thing i've ever heard

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:22 (three years ago) link

I tried to listen to an episode but I just found it unbearable, but I realize I should have listened before I read that interview they did with Paste, which is hands down the most embarrassing thing I read last year: https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/07/chapo-trap-house-are-the-vulgar-brilliant-demigods.html

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:24 (three years ago) link

i've encountered enough asshole know-it-all leftists on twitter (including at least one of the chapo guys, i think) that i haven't exactly been eager to give this a try.

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:25 (three years ago) link

"I haven't listened to this but I don't like it based on reading an article about it" is the most boring and non-contributing thing you can possibly say.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:28 (three years ago) link

Except I did listen to it?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:29 (three years ago) link

Like, "I tried to listen to an episode" is the first goddamn thing I say in my post

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:30 (three years ago) link

They do definitely reflect the worst of leftist Twitter at times. Like it's clear from recent episodes their way of continuing in Trump World will be to still hammer Clinton relentlessly land act like centrist democrats are worse than actual fascists. They are really mad at Hillary for losing to Trump when all I heard from them for months was that she was just as bad.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:13 (three years ago) link

The show works better for me when Matt or Amber bring up something that show they've done a but more homework on this stuff.

My particular fave episodes are stuff like having on Adam Curtis, Matt Karp on his book on Antebellum American politics setting up race science and eugenics shit trickling down to Breitbart, or even the pilot ep of sorts where they excoriate the weird mentality behind Michael Bay's "13 Hours."

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:23 (three years ago) link

xp p sure they're mad at hillary for beating bernie with the weight of the DNC behind her, propping up trump as an easy win and then running an embarrassing general election campaign built on "of course i'll win"

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:45 (three years ago) link

and given that this toolbag seems to be the presumptive 2020 favorite of the DNC, which has not shown any indication of shifting platform aside from a few pockets of support for keith ellison, keeping the fire under the democrats might be the only thing that saves us from 4 additional years of actual fascism

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:49 (three years ago) link

Nerderik P.

salthigh, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:17 (three years ago) link

The "weight of the DNC" that Bernie's ramshackle campaign couldn't overcome but Obama could somehow. We can blame this vague "rigging" for Bernie's loss (and not acknowledge that maybe he should campaigned in the south) but can't admit the Comey letter had an effect on Hillary's?

After the primary was pretty much over they called the differences between Trump and Clinton "a wash". Matt Christman perpetuated the deluded idea that the Bernie delegates at the Nevada caucus were "disenfranchised", just as one example. Granted it wasn't the job of the left to get Hillary elected (I'd have personally preferred Bernie for a number of reasons) but you don't get to act mad at her campaign for losing when you perpetuated the equivalency narrative throughout the campaign. Many Dems have been able to acknowledge that she was a vulnerable candidate that we were stuck with because not enough people ran but it seems like it would literally kill many on the left to just say "we got carried away".

Also, encouraging people to spread "Bernie Would've Won" memes is pretty asshole-ish and counter productive but I don't know maybe stopping actual fascism will require purging People who don't hate Hillary but I could be wrong.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:23 (three years ago) link

but you don't get to act mad at her campaign for losing when you perpetuated the equivalency narrative throughout the campaign

You kind of do? I listened to the post-DNC podcasts and a lot of commentary revolved around things that seemed iffy even at the time when it seemed like a lock - trotting out Mike Bloomberg, the lineup of neocon security/military people lining up for Hillary, etc.. It goes back to 2000/2002 - if you're going to present Republican-lite as the face of the party why wouldn't the voters who are into that just vote for real Republicans? They were also right back then on focusing on decency being poor judgement.

Were the Hillary fainting jokes in bad taste? Sure. That's still the most tiresome part of the podcast, but it's also a fairly small part of it.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:33 (three years ago) link

Funny thing about Bloomberg is we was one of the few convention speakers who got kind of a positive reaction from the Bernie or busters there when he mentioned that he described himself as an "independent" what or John Lewis got anti-tpp chants. There was definitely messaging problems w HRC's campaign but given the consequences of the election (potential loss of social programs for one) people with visibility on the left seemed reluctant to encourage voting for the obviously better choice of the corny old lady and pickedvthr campsign apart for things all high level campaigns do becuae they were probably confident she was going to win anyway.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:55 (three years ago) link

Also, encouraging people to spread "Bernie Would've Won" memes is pretty asshole-ish and counter productive but I don't know maybe stopping actual fascism will require purging People who don't hate Hillary but I could be wrong.

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:23 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think spreading memes has ever been productive in any direction

seriously didn't realize there were still people aside from high ranking democrat pols and frederik who think the answer to defeating trumpism over the next 4 years is to double down on the 2016 strategy

this is some gluing humpty dumpty together again shit

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:00 (three years ago) link

that Bernie's ramshackle campaign couldn't overcome but Obama could somehow

yeah it's almost like these are two different candidates running on entirely different platforms with entirely different relationships to the DNC

how close are you to running out the "of course the DNC sank bernie, he wasn't a member of their party!" argument that was briefly popular 8 months ago in an entirely different america

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:04 (three years ago) link

Yes, Mike Bloomberg is a well-known figure on the socialist lecture circuit. Hugely popular on the left. Yuge.

It is a reminder that the one thing worse than jokes about Hillary's medical problems is the narrative around BernieBros and "Bernie or Busters" where whatever ills that pop into your head can be ascribed to them.

The fundamental disconnect here appears to be your belief that the left's issue with Clinton is that she was "corny."

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:06 (three years ago) link

xxp obvs

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:06 (three years ago) link

I never said "everything was perfect w HRC's messaging except that leftist twitter and this podcast didn't like it". I'd have preferred a different candidate but Hillary won the primary, she was obviously the better candidate compared to Trump. When you vote for a candidate you are voting a coalition into office. Making equivrlrncies beyeeen her and Trump was ridiculous then (kind of offensive actually when you put in perspective ) and looks even more ridiculous now. Maybe you can post the photo of them at a party together I've seen a million times and I'll withdraw that.

We have social media, we know the left got "carried away" I don''t see the point in denying that base level reality. I mean people were literally crying st the convention because they thought Bernie would get the nomination somehow.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:12 (three years ago) link

dude is throwing a tantrum bc buttigieg "stole" delegates in iowa

Mordy, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:13 (two weeks ago) link

Dem candidate might lose entire blocks in Brooklyn

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:13 (two weeks ago) link

as long as he's in the race, semi-serious blackmail is as good a strategy as any

― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), 5. februar 2020 17:11 (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I honestly doubt this is true

Frederik B, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:19 (two weeks ago) link

I mean, for terminally online ppl, sure. Of course there's no substitute for donating and canvassing and the like.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:25 (two weeks ago) link

But who is it that needs to be blackmailed? I just think it will lead to resentment among the people who is being blackmailed, but who's support will be needed immediately after the election.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:30 (two weeks ago) link

i mean tbf the democratic party has m/l been blackmailing the left since FDR died

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:31 (two weeks ago) link

Dem candidate might lose entire blocks in Brooklyn

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, February 5, 2020 11:13 AM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is every bit as lame as when Jon Stewart used to whine "but I'm just a comedian, not a serious news man!" it's pretty infuriating to me that you can make ridiculous amounts of money for spouting off about politics but as soon as someone even tries to take your influence seriously you retreat to insisting it's all just jokes.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:34 (two weeks ago) link

The idea is to evoke the dread spectre of the Big Scary Bernie Horde as a cruel monolith of denial, as an ironic-or-isn't-it reaction to the endless bernie bro thinkpieces. It's a bit. The vast majority of Bernie ppl would vote dem in the general in actual reality (ok, maybe not if Bloomberg got the nom)

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:36 (two weeks ago) link

It's not quite a bit and not quite an actual tactic. And it likely has no actual bearing on reality either way.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:37 (two weeks ago) link

Not quite a bit, not quite a tactic, definitely dumb, imo

Frederik B, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:38 (two weeks ago) link

I think it was born out of rofling about Warren supporters on twitter saying maybe we should vote for Bernie because his supporters will bolt the party if he isn't the nominee

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:41 (two weeks ago) link

fwiw the main groups I've seen really get engaged are people who are typically non-voters and younger people who may tend to be more hyperbolic to begin with

cynically I'd say that a lot of them in swing states are either going to feel disenfranchised and go back to sporadic voting, or more likely get older and drift toward the center a little as they remain engaged in the process and end up voting for more democrats down the road

check the DSA event attendance numbers in a couple years

caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:42 (two weeks ago) link

not living in a swing state kicks ass

ciderpress, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:49 (two weeks ago) link

hmm I was thinking of just moving outside of north america entirely someday, but maybe I should try just getting out of a swing state first

caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 17:17 (two weeks ago) link

They’re in quite high spirits(and audibly hoarse) in today’s episode

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 6 February 2020 03:55 (one week ago) link

I appreciated their "no whining/complaining" angle and hope their listeners heed it

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Thursday, 6 February 2020 04:52 (one week ago) link

Home. pic.twitter.com/VAo4jho6jR

— Will🧙‍♂️Menaker (@willmenaker) February 6, 2020

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 6 February 2020 22:14 (one week ago) link

Well this was quick

https://youtu.be/Xd_GSBTVksA

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 6 February 2020 23:38 (one week ago) link

I just gotta check the temp here: so, to regulars of this thread, the dudes doing the Steyer interview seem cool & righteous to y'all, do I have that right?

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 7 February 2020 00:51 (one week ago) link

the billionaire defender has logged on

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 7 February 2020 00:54 (one week ago) link

I literally don't know who Steyer is but ok

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 7 February 2020 00:55 (one week ago) link

I can't in good conscience recommend either their candidate interviews or their video content (tho Virgil's interview with Yang was interesting for revealing how little he'd thought through the implications of his proposals). their interest in the fifth-tier candidates is strange to me.

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 7 February 2020 00:56 (one week ago) link

thankfully they long ago dropped their "marianne williamson is genuinely interesting" shtick/bit

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 7 February 2020 00:58 (one week ago) link

I like Berger's work generally, he's hilarious, but that segment was a very solid case against listening to all its principles on any topic

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 7 February 2020 01:01 (one week ago) link

Tom Steyer is a billionaire vampire who's already spent $200mn on a vanity Presidential campaign.

The premise of the 'interview' requires that you know that... as you'd expect anyone who clicks on a political podcast's video would.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 7 February 2020 01:07 (one week ago) link

I literally don't know who Steyer is but ok

christ do I envy you

but I live in Nevada, which Tom Steyer has been burning ad money in for months

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 7 February 2020 02:11 (one week ago) link

Tom Steyer is doing a play for a Senate run, isn’t he, which is why his bits at the debates seem like clips or demo reels for campaign ads?

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 8 February 2020 14:12 (one week ago) link

Don Hughes intro is A+

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:10 (five days ago) link

as much as I love his intros I hope he comes on properly at some point

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:12 (five days ago) link

oh i'll give the intro a listen.

i tried don hughes' podcast and i didn't particularly care for it tbh.

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:20 (five days ago) link

his irony stalinist routine is better than his earnest catholic nerd actual personality

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:21 (five days ago) link

I agree. I'm not on twitter anymore but his advanced ironyposting is one of the few things I actually miss

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 14 February 2020 19:32 (five days ago) link

The alt-right thread doesn't come up in a Google search so this is as good a place as any for a short montage of the Alex Jones gun girl getting laughed at by a few hundred students

here’s a montage of tik toks i saw of kaitlin bennett getting bullied at OU as she should pic.twitter.com/rENm9wfgXQ

— 𝐛𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐚 ‎⧗ 🌊 (@romanoffangel) February 18, 2020

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 10:49 (yesterday) link

tfw your job is getting regularly humilated in public in return for those sweet kochbucks

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 10:55 (yesterday) link

holy shit at those clips

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 11:34 (yesterday) link

somehow she'll just get worse because of this

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 12:10 (yesterday) link

well, yeah

go ahead. keep screaming "Shut The Fuck Up " at me. it only makes my opinions Worse

— wint (@dril) March 10, 2018

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 12:44 (yesterday) link

hundreds of people turning up to yell at you about the time you shit your pants is proof that you've triggered the libs

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 18 February 2020 12:46 (yesterday) link

in an ideal world, no one would pay any attention to her whatsoever, but this is a good close second option

mh, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 15:24 (yesterday) link

A message to left twitter personalities from one of the PodSave Jons pic.twitter.com/gc5hQZ0OiP

— Samuel D. Finkelstein II (@CANCEL_SAM) February 18, 2020

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:23 (yesterday) link

i am finding the chapo/adjacent folk somewhat annoying lately but still: lol

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 23:24 (yesterday) link

Pod Save guys have been very complimentary of Bernie for some time now but that doesn’t really matter if you’re less concerned with winning elections than being the coolest kids in the room.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:09 (nineteen hours ago) link

They can tell which way the wind is blowing, but they also consistently seem to have direct ties to the worst aspects of the Dem party establishment / wider world of bullshit (like that Medicare for Some People Maybe group)

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:34 (nineteen hours ago) link

Pod Save guys have been very complimentary of Bernie for some time now but that doesn’t really matter if you’re less concerned with winning elections than being the coolest kids in the room.

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:09 (twenty-six minutes ago) link

Cool. Got any tips for the front runner about how to win elections?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 03:37 (nineteen hours ago) link

lol yeah what does 'shape up' mean, he's winning

flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 06:04 (sixteen hours ago) link

it means ‘stop being mean to me online just because i am part of the problem’

Generous Grant for Stepladder Creamery (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 06:07 (sixteen hours ago) link

SO MANY of these people have been ensconced in their own Versailles-but-dumber-for-consultants that they can’t handle anybody giving them snark or anything except perceived deference.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:42 (five hours ago) link

i thought the context of this was Bernie supporters doxxing/harrassing leadership in the Culinary Union. i think the problem here is we're always talking about different groups of people who don't overlap that much other than supporting Sanders. like I don't THINK it was any of the Chapo or Chapo-adjacent guys who were harrassing union members, but I'm sure some of them do drag Favreau on Twitter. maybe the rest of his rant clarifies that distinction but if it doesn't then yeah, he does need to stop whining.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:52 (five hours ago) link

he's so tired of people telling him that the Mandalorian sucks

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 17:57 (four hours ago) link

I don't THINK it was any of the Chapo or Chapo-adjacent guys who were harrassing union members

This would be v unlikely given their summary of the events on their show, in which they concluded that it made sense for the union to not tie themselves to a specific candidate and that if anyone lost out it was Biden

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 February 2020 18:07 (four hours ago) link


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