Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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For the uninitiated, CTH is a very popular (to the tune of $30k+ per month coming in via Pateron) podcast by a group of foul-mouthed socialists with a tendency to tear into liberals with just as much (if not more) zeal than conservatives. They were recently profiled/critiqued in the New Yorker. The episode in which they respond to the article (mostly by viciously mocking the author and the New Yorker in general) is a decent introduction. There's also a critique of the critique, of course.

I'm interested in this growing notion of the "dirtbag left" and the increasing ranks of the DSA, which I recognize are partly separate phenomena. (There is an amusing schism in their demo between the very young and the very old.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:11 (one year ago) Permalink

This was probably the best intro I ever read:

http://splitsider.com/2016/09/explaining-the-chapo-trap-house-podcast-to-the-uninitiated/

Which gets into the reference-heavy jag the show occasionally launches off on.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:17 (one year ago) Permalink

these dudes sound pretty unpleasant tbh

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:22 (one year ago) Permalink

I follow some dem socialists on Twitter and it took me like three goddamn months that it was a podcast and not just some sort of weird meme

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:23 (one year ago) Permalink

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to progressive causes by something stronger than the tether between Hot Shots: Part Deux and the US Navy?

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:25 (one year ago) Permalink

I have only heard a few recent episodes, but the divide in airtime between vulgar comic riffs and actual discussion/intvws is pretty much 50/50

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:27 (one year ago) Permalink

to answer yr question more directly Tombot I have seen a *lot* of tweets w/ CTH fans flaunting their newly received Socialist Organizer mailers/cards, anecdotal certainly but not nothing

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:31 (one year ago) Permalink

They're still spending way too much time complaining about Hillary, the election and their critics. I find it amusing enough as a light podcast for driving but they're going to have to move on to keep listeners.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:33 (one year ago) Permalink

a vigorous and funny response to the alt-right is probably a good thing, but this just sounds like a load of jerks being jerks

iatee otm

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:33 (one year ago) Permalink

This sounds pretty 'edgy'. I'll be interested to see what these guys do once they're out of high school.

DJ Untz Hall (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:38 (one year ago) Permalink

I find it amusing enough as a light podcast for driving but they're going to have to move on to keep listeners.

Agreed, I think this will be a necessity after the inauguration anyway

tbh I mostly enjoy their eviscerations of liberal commentators/thinkers - fish in a barrel, sure, but undeniably satisfying

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:39 (one year ago) Permalink

Have never listened to the show, read the article, I think i follow a couple of them on twitter. I hadn't realized they responded to the article with vicious mockery on their show, that's kind of a bummer since I saw them responding to outraged CTH devotees on twitter with essentially "chill the fuck out, it was a pretty good profile."

JoeStork, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:39 (one year ago) Permalink

in the following episode they emphasized that they were embarrassed by people defending them

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:40 (one year ago) Permalink

I think the 'jerks being jerks' stuff is overstated. I've listened to 10-12 eps now and there's nothing really offensive? They pick on dweeby Twitter people and pundits.

The episodes where they read from Ross Douthat and Megan McCardle's books are the best I've heard, followed by the interview with Adam Curtis.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:47 (one year ago) Permalink

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to progressive causes by something stronger than the tether between Hot Shots: Part Deux and the US Navy?

It's an Air America show that can survive on its listener base, I don't think anyone's expecting them to start a revolution with a podcast. It's amusing to listen to a talk show with an actual left-wing viewpoint.

At least some of them are active with DSA and similar groups but they're also just relatively privileged liberal arts college NYC alt-media people.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:51 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm realizing I could have asked the same question about Das Racist (RIP) and gotten kind of the same answer and it would have been fine. Why I felt the need to ask it of a podcast as if that requires a different kind of "authentic" pedigree is weird, and my thinking needs unpacking on that

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 02:00 (one year ago) Permalink

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to dirtbag causes?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 02:35 (one year ago) Permalink

I think I need it explained to me how they are not directly related

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:20 (one year ago) Permalink

I've listened to most episodes, it's a great podcast. Their coverage of the primaries was often very funny. An early ep had a great guest who detailed the situation w teacher strikes in Mexico. Occasionally they do succumb to the more deluded and counter productive tendencies of hardcore Berners though.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:43 (one year ago) Permalink

i'll out myself. matt's a thoughtful guy. felix is lol in most moods and he reminds me eerily of turkey-obsessed college friends i miss; also i found his les mis reading compelling. will clearly guides the whole thing and holds episodes together but imo is the blankest when he goes on the attack. some episodes really are just them giggling at their own press clips. thought it was completely hilarious that their william f buckley impression was actually a capt. peter peachfuzz impression.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:40 (one year ago) Permalink

obviously the keep it negative dickhole zing crew should run podcasting

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:42 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't think "keep it negative" is a fair summation of their worldview

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:44 (one year ago) Permalink

a vigorous and funny response to the alt-right is probably a good thing, but this just sounds like a load of jerks being jerks

maybe if we brainstormed some more descriptions of trump's hair

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:49 (one year ago) Permalink

afaict they're in the same gen x/millenial straddler segment as a bunch of my peers, sneer at the gen x detachment and corporate institutions equally, and are well-versed in the web communities that predate the 4chan weird bullshit, parallel to or members of somethingawful and other shit of the time

idk it's a thing where every political opinion coming from them seems like a deep-seated reaction from living through the late 90s and early 00s and that's the lens

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:49 (one year ago) Permalink

douthat rip is savage

I'm trying to catch up to the Trap House but these things are like 90 minutes long. I'm on episode 4. By the time they're talking about current events, Trump's first term will be over

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:24 (one year ago) Permalink

I thoroughly enjoy the Chapo Trap House. When I first discovered it it felt like a real catharsis to hear other people roughly my age or a little younger shredding New Democratism and bad centrist punditry of both liberal and conservative varieties but not in a lefty crank, counterpunch sort of way.

I can't say I love the new format with more regulars and preferred the dynamic of just Felix-Matt-Will. I like Amber and Virgil Texas individually I just don't feel like the show works as well with them regularly participating.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:27 (one year ago) Permalink

ALSO as I think we talked about a little on the podcast thread, it seems harder for them to find their footing in a Trump world, now that the irrelevant centrist punditry has actually been rendered irrelevant.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:39 (one year ago) Permalink

I'm trying to catch up to the Trap House but these things are like 90 minutes long. I'm on episode 4.

I've found that playback at 1.25x speed can be your friend.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:52 (one year ago) Permalink

i couldn't get through an episode of this, even though i generally agree with them

it just... isn't funny at all, or insightful. probably because the things that are funny and insightful in sad leftist twitter aren't funny outside of sad leftist twitter

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Whiney, just listen to the Freeway Ross Douthat episode then skip to current events. Discussing the conventions doesn't really work as entertainment six months after the fact.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:20 (one year ago) Permalink

being a completionist about a politics podcast is the most onion a/v club thing i've ever heard

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:22 (one year ago) Permalink

I tried to listen to an episode but I just found it unbearable, but I realize I should have listened before I read that interview they did with Paste, which is hands down the most embarrassing thing I read last year: https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/07/chapo-trap-house-are-the-vulgar-brilliant-demigods.html

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:24 (one year ago) Permalink

i've encountered enough asshole know-it-all leftists on twitter (including at least one of the chapo guys, i think) that i haven't exactly been eager to give this a try.

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:25 (one year ago) Permalink

"I haven't listened to this but I don't like it based on reading an article about it" is the most boring and non-contributing thing you can possibly say.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:28 (one year ago) Permalink

Except I did listen to it?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:29 (one year ago) Permalink

Like, "I tried to listen to an episode" is the first goddamn thing I say in my post

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:30 (one year ago) Permalink

They do definitely reflect the worst of leftist Twitter at times. Like it's clear from recent episodes their way of continuing in Trump World will be to still hammer Clinton relentlessly land act like centrist democrats are worse than actual fascists. They are really mad at Hillary for losing to Trump when all I heard from them for months was that she was just as bad.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:13 (one year ago) Permalink

The show works better for me when Matt or Amber bring up something that show they've done a but more homework on this stuff.

My particular fave episodes are stuff like having on Adam Curtis, Matt Karp on his book on Antebellum American politics setting up race science and eugenics shit trickling down to Breitbart, or even the pilot ep of sorts where they excoriate the weird mentality behind Michael Bay's "13 Hours."

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:23 (one year ago) Permalink

xp p sure they're mad at hillary for beating bernie with the weight of the DNC behind her, propping up trump as an easy win and then running an embarrassing general election campaign built on "of course i'll win"

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:45 (one year ago) Permalink

and given that this toolbag seems to be the presumptive 2020 favorite of the DNC, which has not shown any indication of shifting platform aside from a few pockets of support for keith ellison, keeping the fire under the democrats might be the only thing that saves us from 4 additional years of actual fascism

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:49 (one year ago) Permalink

Nerderik P.

salthigh, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:17 (one year ago) Permalink

The "weight of the DNC" that Bernie's ramshackle campaign couldn't overcome but Obama could somehow. We can blame this vague "rigging" for Bernie's loss (and not acknowledge that maybe he should campaigned in the south) but can't admit the Comey letter had an effect on Hillary's?

After the primary was pretty much over they called the differences between Trump and Clinton "a wash". Matt Christman perpetuated the deluded idea that the Bernie delegates at the Nevada caucus were "disenfranchised", just as one example. Granted it wasn't the job of the left to get Hillary elected (I'd have personally preferred Bernie for a number of reasons) but you don't get to act mad at her campaign for losing when you perpetuated the equivalency narrative throughout the campaign. Many Dems have been able to acknowledge that she was a vulnerable candidate that we were stuck with because not enough people ran but it seems like it would literally kill many on the left to just say "we got carried away".

Also, encouraging people to spread "Bernie Would've Won" memes is pretty asshole-ish and counter productive but I don't know maybe stopping actual fascism will require purging People who don't hate Hillary but I could be wrong.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:23 (one year ago) Permalink

but you don't get to act mad at her campaign for losing when you perpetuated the equivalency narrative throughout the campaign

You kind of do? I listened to the post-DNC podcasts and a lot of commentary revolved around things that seemed iffy even at the time when it seemed like a lock - trotting out Mike Bloomberg, the lineup of neocon security/military people lining up for Hillary, etc.. It goes back to 2000/2002 - if you're going to present Republican-lite as the face of the party why wouldn't the voters who are into that just vote for real Republicans? They were also right back then on focusing on decency being poor judgement.

Were the Hillary fainting jokes in bad taste? Sure. That's still the most tiresome part of the podcast, but it's also a fairly small part of it.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:33 (one year ago) Permalink

Funny thing about Bloomberg is we was one of the few convention speakers who got kind of a positive reaction from the Bernie or busters there when he mentioned that he described himself as an "independent" what or John Lewis got anti-tpp chants. There was definitely messaging problems w HRC's campaign but given the consequences of the election (potential loss of social programs for one) people with visibility on the left seemed reluctant to encourage voting for the obviously better choice of the corny old lady and pickedvthr campsign apart for things all high level campaigns do becuae they were probably confident she was going to win anyway.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:55 (one year ago) Permalink

Also, encouraging people to spread "Bernie Would've Won" memes is pretty asshole-ish and counter productive but I don't know maybe stopping actual fascism will require purging People who don't hate Hillary but I could be wrong.

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:23 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think spreading memes has ever been productive in any direction

seriously didn't realize there were still people aside from high ranking democrat pols and frederik who think the answer to defeating trumpism over the next 4 years is to double down on the 2016 strategy

this is some gluing humpty dumpty together again shit

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:00 (one year ago) Permalink

that Bernie's ramshackle campaign couldn't overcome but Obama could somehow

yeah it's almost like these are two different candidates running on entirely different platforms with entirely different relationships to the DNC

how close are you to running out the "of course the DNC sank bernie, he wasn't a member of their party!" argument that was briefly popular 8 months ago in an entirely different america

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:04 (one year ago) Permalink

Yes, Mike Bloomberg is a well-known figure on the socialist lecture circuit. Hugely popular on the left. Yuge.

It is a reminder that the one thing worse than jokes about Hillary's medical problems is the narrative around BernieBros and "Bernie or Busters" where whatever ills that pop into your head can be ascribed to them.

The fundamental disconnect here appears to be your belief that the left's issue with Clinton is that she was "corny."

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:06 (one year ago) Permalink

xxp obvs

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:06 (one year ago) Permalink

I never said "everything was perfect w HRC's messaging except that leftist twitter and this podcast didn't like it". I'd have preferred a different candidate but Hillary won the primary, she was obviously the better candidate compared to Trump. When you vote for a candidate you are voting a coalition into office. Making equivrlrncies beyeeen her and Trump was ridiculous then (kind of offensive actually when you put in perspective ) and looks even more ridiculous now. Maybe you can post the photo of them at a party together I've seen a million times and I'll withdraw that.

We have social media, we know the left got "carried away" I don''t see the point in denying that base level reality. I mean people were literally crying st the convention because they thought Bernie would get the nomination somehow.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:12 (one year ago) Permalink

I forget I just need to type “large adult son” and it’s a solid 15 min of uninterrupted giggling/nostalgia for our political awakening last year.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:04 (one week ago) Permalink

please tell us what the good jokes are!!

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:12 (one week ago) Permalink

i'm the professional entertainer who tells 100k disaffected young white guys to kill themselves and everyone around them in a country where disaffected young white guys definitely don't have easy access to doing that, and avail themselves of that access regularly. love to lol.
— random content man (@FredieDeBoerWar) November 7, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, 8 November 2018 02:30 (forty-seven minutes ago) Permalink

Lol is that actually Freddie deBoer? Dude has no room to talk shit about anyone for dumbass online behavior

latebloomer, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:28 (one week ago) Permalink

don't believe so

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:35 (one week ago) Permalink

iirc he posted an apology on his blog for the shit he pulled and said he'd been in treatment for some time since, and I'm pretty sure there was no subsequent return to social media

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:39 (one week ago) Permalink

Ah ok.

latebloomer, Thursday, 8 November 2018 03:44 (one week ago) Permalink

please tell us what the good jokes are!!

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.)

😈

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 04:19 (one week ago) Permalink

wait has Frederick B been Freddie de Boer all along????

― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Thursday, November 8, 2018 2:45 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yo legit I thought this at one point and was extremely confused

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 8 November 2018 05:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Same

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 05:46 (one week ago) Permalink

@CHAPOTRAPHOUSE @cushbomb @willmenaker @virgiltexas @ByYourLogic Go off, king of kings. #election #Chapo, #GOAT, #HELLWORLD pic.twitter.com/DT61BU0Kbg

— wojtek arciszewski (@wojrants) November 7, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 8 November 2018 15:01 (one week ago) Permalink

surely someone has ratted them out to twitch by now

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:07 (one week ago) Permalink

tommy vietor from pod save america has added to the dogpile.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:13 (one week ago) Permalink

pod save america, the podcast whose title makes no sense

flappy bird, Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:14 (one week ago) Permalink

also nerdstrom you just quoted a tweet from a bad irony poster

what always impressed me about UBL was his placid demeanor, the warmth in his eyes. truly the expressions of a man who is at peace with himself, and whose balls are thoroughly and regularly drained.

— random content man (@FredieDeBoerWar) September 12, 2018

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:16 (one week ago) Permalink

but since pearl-clutching in a really pathetic way about this dumb podcast is your hobby continue i guess

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 8 November 2018 17:16 (one week ago) Permalink

really enjoying Trillbilly Workers' Party lately

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:46 (six days ago) Permalink

they're really likeable, moreso than the chapo guys tbh

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:55 (six days ago) Permalink

yeah it's an affability vs lols tradeoff, not unlike with Street Fight

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 9 November 2018 15:57 (six days ago) Permalink

for ppl who are into that side of things, the ChapoFYM crew are doing a 24-hour charity stream in support of Trans Lifeline starting in about half an hour

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 10 November 2018 14:28 (five days ago) Permalink

The latest Antifada ep gets pretty hardcore, talking to the guy who went undercover with a lot of alt-right groups and gets into why you need an actual positive political program to accompany any resistive movement

http://fans.fm/listen/4zw

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 11 November 2018 20:21 (four days ago) Permalink

I gotta say, the Dollop episode on John McCain -- which, yes, admittedly focuses on every shitty thing he ever did, at the expense of most other considerations -- not only taught me a few things I hadn't heard about or knew very little detail about, and convinced me of its thesis that he was absolutely a proto-Trump in terms of his fictitious persona and cozy media relationship. (Complete with sketchy Manafort/Russia content!)

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:30 (yesterday) Permalink

i've been saving that one for a special occasion

surprised dave managed to make it to the end of the episode without suffering a fatal rage embolism tbh

the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:35 (yesterday) Permalink

I worry about him sometimes tbh

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 13:57 (yesterday) Permalink

convinced me of its thesis that he was absolutely a proto-Trump in terms of his fictitious persona and cozy media relationship

I think a lot of national stage politicians are closer to Trump in this regard than most people realize, it's just that the personae they create aren't as overtly outlandish

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 14:58 (yesterday) Permalink

John F Kennedy is a proto-Trump. Teddy Roosevelt is a proto-Trump. Pretty much everyone is a proto-Trump if it's about creating a persona and handling the media well.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:04 (yesterday) Permalink

yeah, but the overt xenophobia, misogyny and corruption make it a little more apt than the average imo

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:08 (yesterday) Permalink

the only meaningful difference being that those qualities were hidden/cloaked by the persona rather than amplified by them

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:09 (yesterday) Permalink

Which is kinda the thing that makes Trump Trump though.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:15 (yesterday) Permalink

No argument here

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:16 (yesterday) Permalink

John F Kennedy is a proto-Trump. Teddy Roosevelt is a proto-Trump. Pretty much everyone is a proto-Trump if it's about creating a persona and handling the media well.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:04 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Well and also extreme narcissism.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:21 (yesterday) Permalink

Jesse Ventura is the proto Trump, he's not a terrible guy and was an ok no governor but there are so many similarities to the phenomenon having lived through both

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:57 (yesterday) Permalink

otm

I remember ppl really being excited to vote for him

gbx, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:09 (yesterday) Permalink

Also Jesse's a huge narcissist and had the same relationship w/the press

issuing press passes with "media jackals" on it

https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news/ventura-slams-media-unflattering-press-passes

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:32 (yesterday) Permalink

god the whole thing was so nuts, i forgot about his son turning the governor's mansion into a party house

http://www.brainerddispatch.com/content/impostor-lived-governors-mansion

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:34 (yesterday) Permalink

wait now i'm imagining trump having a post-presidency MMA Ref career

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:34 (yesterday) Permalink

the fuckin inaugural ball with warren zevon/jesse duet

https://youtu.be/G1SYrE96mpk?list=PL8E5023F8F7BECEBD&t=316

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 16:36 (yesterday) Permalink

god that's bizarre

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:11 (yesterday) Permalink

A key difference, as bad a governor as he was, Jesse was good on some issues (transit, gay rights, abortion, the war on drugs). When he was bad, he was terrible, and he shared T’s extreme sensitivity to any criticism.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:26 (yesterday) Permalink

Perot, though not an actual celeb, had the proto-Trump press sensitivity and sold himself as outsider-businessman who could come in and fix it all with business skills

President Keyes, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:42 (yesterday) Permalink

yeah jesse was okay like i said but the combative stuff w/the press and being thin skinned was really similar

plus just the whole weird energy around his candidacy was similar

Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 17:50 (yesterday) Permalink

The Dollop having not so secretly become 50% a labor history podcast is probably Good but I can’t really stand to entertain myself with all that strike-breaking

I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 18:47 (yesterday) Permalink

It really is amazing to listen to early, carefree episodes where Dave seems practically apolitical then compare it to like, the Wells Fargo episode

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 18:56 (yesterday) Permalink

the dollop is secretly the longform story of dave’s radicalisation

the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 18:57 (yesterday) Permalink

my gf likes to listen to podcasts while going to sleep and a lot of the dollop ones have really enervated me while in a delicate hypnagogic state

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:00 (yesterday) Permalink

that said, the Boston Corbett episode contains maybe the single funniest moment of any podcast

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:03 (yesterday) Permalink

the gay-panic in the navy episode remains my favourite, just batshit from start to finish

the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 19:10 (yesterday) Permalink

What name / # was that one? Doesn't ring a bell.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:10 (yesterday) Permalink

#56, the Newport sex scandal

if you haven’t heard it you’re in for a treat

the Stanley Kubrick of testicular torsion (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:15 (yesterday) Permalink

I think Pareene mentioned that Reagan was just Trump who could actually stay on script and listen to his handlers

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:54 (yesterday) Permalink

schwarzenegger was a weirdly decent California gov

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 15 November 2018 01:09 (twenty-two hours ago) Permalink


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