Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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For the uninitiated, CTH is a very popular (to the tune of $30k+ per month coming in via Pateron) podcast by a group of foul-mouthed socialists with a tendency to tear into liberals with just as much (if not more) zeal than conservatives. They were recently profiled/critiqued in the New Yorker. The episode in which they respond to the article (mostly by viciously mocking the author and the New Yorker in general) is a decent introduction. There's also a critique of the critique, of course.

I'm interested in this growing notion of the "dirtbag left" and the increasing ranks of the DSA, which I recognize are partly separate phenomena. (There is an amusing schism in their demo between the very young and the very old.)

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:11 (three years ago) link

This was probably the best intro I ever read:

http://splitsider.com/2016/09/explaining-the-chapo-trap-house-podcast-to-the-uninitiated/

Which gets into the reference-heavy jag the show occasionally launches off on.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:17 (three years ago) link

these dudes sound pretty unpleasant tbh

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:22 (three years ago) link

I follow some dem socialists on Twitter and it took me like three goddamn months that it was a podcast and not just some sort of weird meme

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:23 (three years ago) link

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to progressive causes by something stronger than the tether between Hot Shots: Part Deux and the US Navy?

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:25 (three years ago) link

I have only heard a few recent episodes, but the divide in airtime between vulgar comic riffs and actual discussion/intvws is pretty much 50/50

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:27 (three years ago) link

to answer yr question more directly Tombot I have seen a *lot* of tweets w/ CTH fans flaunting their newly received Socialist Organizer mailers/cards, anecdotal certainly but not nothing

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:31 (three years ago) link

They're still spending way too much time complaining about Hillary, the election and their critics. I find it amusing enough as a light podcast for driving but they're going to have to move on to keep listeners.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:33 (three years ago) link

a vigorous and funny response to the alt-right is probably a good thing, but this just sounds like a load of jerks being jerks

iatee otm

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:33 (three years ago) link

This sounds pretty 'edgy'. I'll be interested to see what these guys do once they're out of high school.

DJ Untz Hall (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:38 (three years ago) link

I find it amusing enough as a light podcast for driving but they're going to have to move on to keep listeners.

Agreed, I think this will be a necessity after the inauguration anyway

tbh I mostly enjoy their eviscerations of liberal commentators/thinkers - fish in a barrel, sure, but undeniably satisfying

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:39 (three years ago) link

Have never listened to the show, read the article, I think i follow a couple of them on twitter. I hadn't realized they responded to the article with vicious mockery on their show, that's kind of a bummer since I saw them responding to outraged CTH devotees on twitter with essentially "chill the fuck out, it was a pretty good profile."

JoeStork, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:39 (three years ago) link

in the following episode they emphasized that they were embarrassed by people defending them

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:40 (three years ago) link

I think the 'jerks being jerks' stuff is overstated. I've listened to 10-12 eps now and there's nothing really offensive? They pick on dweeby Twitter people and pundits.

The episodes where they read from Ross Douthat and Megan McCardle's books are the best I've heard, followed by the interview with Adam Curtis.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:47 (three years ago) link

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to progressive causes by something stronger than the tether between Hot Shots: Part Deux and the US Navy?

It's an Air America show that can survive on its listener base, I don't think anyone's expecting them to start a revolution with a podcast. It's amusing to listen to a talk show with an actual left-wing viewpoint.

At least some of them are active with DSA and similar groups but they're also just relatively privileged liberal arts college NYC alt-media people.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 01:51 (three years ago) link

I'm realizing I could have asked the same question about Das Racist (RIP) and gotten kind of the same answer and it would have been fine. Why I felt the need to ask it of a podcast as if that requires a different kind of "authentic" pedigree is weird, and my thinking needs unpacking on that

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 02:00 (three years ago) link

Can someone explain to me how this podcast and its Patreon patrons are connected to dirtbag causes?

rap is dad (it's a boy!), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 02:35 (three years ago) link

I think I need it explained to me how they are not directly related

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:20 (three years ago) link

I've listened to most episodes, it's a great podcast. Their coverage of the primaries was often very funny. An early ep had a great guest who detailed the situation w teacher strikes in Mexico. Occasionally they do succumb to the more deluded and counter productive tendencies of hardcore Berners though.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 03:43 (three years ago) link

i'll out myself. matt's a thoughtful guy. felix is lol in most moods and he reminds me eerily of turkey-obsessed college friends i miss; also i found his les mis reading compelling. will clearly guides the whole thing and holds episodes together but imo is the blankest when he goes on the attack. some episodes really are just them giggling at their own press clips. thought it was completely hilarious that their william f buckley impression was actually a capt. peter peachfuzz impression.

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:40 (three years ago) link

obviously the keep it negative dickhole zing crew should run podcasting

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:42 (three years ago) link

I don't think "keep it negative" is a fair summation of their worldview

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:44 (three years ago) link

a vigorous and funny response to the alt-right is probably a good thing, but this just sounds like a load of jerks being jerks

maybe if we brainstormed some more descriptions of trump's hair

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:49 (three years ago) link

afaict they're in the same gen x/millenial straddler segment as a bunch of my peers, sneer at the gen x detachment and corporate institutions equally, and are well-versed in the web communities that predate the 4chan weird bullshit, parallel to or members of somethingawful and other shit of the time

idk it's a thing where every political opinion coming from them seems like a deep-seated reaction from living through the late 90s and early 00s and that's the lens

mh 😏, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 04:49 (three years ago) link

douthat rip is savage

I'm trying to catch up to the Trap House but these things are like 90 minutes long. I'm on episode 4. By the time they're talking about current events, Trump's first term will be over

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:24 (three years ago) link

I thoroughly enjoy the Chapo Trap House. When I first discovered it it felt like a real catharsis to hear other people roughly my age or a little younger shredding New Democratism and bad centrist punditry of both liberal and conservative varieties but not in a lefty crank, counterpunch sort of way.

I can't say I love the new format with more regulars and preferred the dynamic of just Felix-Matt-Will. I like Amber and Virgil Texas individually I just don't feel like the show works as well with them regularly participating.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:27 (three years ago) link

ALSO as I think we talked about a little on the podcast thread, it seems harder for them to find their footing in a Trump world, now that the irrelevant centrist punditry has actually been rendered irrelevant.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:39 (three years ago) link

I'm trying to catch up to the Trap House but these things are like 90 minutes long. I'm on episode 4.

I've found that playback at 1.25x speed can be your friend.

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 05:52 (three years ago) link

i couldn't get through an episode of this, even though i generally agree with them

it just... isn't funny at all, or insightful. probably because the things that are funny and insightful in sad leftist twitter aren't funny outside of sad leftist twitter

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:16 (three years ago) link

Whiney, just listen to the Freeway Ross Douthat episode then skip to current events. Discussing the conventions doesn't really work as entertainment six months after the fact.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:20 (three years ago) link

being a completionist about a politics podcast is the most onion a/v club thing i've ever heard

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:22 (three years ago) link

I tried to listen to an episode but I just found it unbearable, but I realize I should have listened before I read that interview they did with Paste, which is hands down the most embarrassing thing I read last year: https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2016/07/chapo-trap-house-are-the-vulgar-brilliant-demigods.html

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:24 (three years ago) link

i've encountered enough asshole know-it-all leftists on twitter (including at least one of the chapo guys, i think) that i haven't exactly been eager to give this a try.

Wozniak on Kimye's Baby (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:25 (three years ago) link

"I haven't listened to this but I don't like it based on reading an article about it" is the most boring and non-contributing thing you can possibly say.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:28 (three years ago) link

Except I did listen to it?

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:29 (three years ago) link

Like, "I tried to listen to an episode" is the first goddamn thing I say in my post

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 06:30 (three years ago) link

They do definitely reflect the worst of leftist Twitter at times. Like it's clear from recent episodes their way of continuing in Trump World will be to still hammer Clinton relentlessly land act like centrist democrats are worse than actual fascists. They are really mad at Hillary for losing to Trump when all I heard from them for months was that she was just as bad.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:13 (three years ago) link

The show works better for me when Matt or Amber bring up something that show they've done a but more homework on this stuff.

My particular fave episodes are stuff like having on Adam Curtis, Matt Karp on his book on Antebellum American politics setting up race science and eugenics shit trickling down to Breitbart, or even the pilot ep of sorts where they excoriate the weird mentality behind Michael Bay's "13 Hours."

THE SKURJ OF FAKE NEWS. (kingfish), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:23 (three years ago) link

xp p sure they're mad at hillary for beating bernie with the weight of the DNC behind her, propping up trump as an easy win and then running an embarrassing general election campaign built on "of course i'll win"

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:45 (three years ago) link

and given that this toolbag seems to be the presumptive 2020 favorite of the DNC, which has not shown any indication of shifting platform aside from a few pockets of support for keith ellison, keeping the fire under the democrats might be the only thing that saves us from 4 additional years of actual fascism

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 07:49 (three years ago) link

Nerderik P.

salthigh, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:17 (three years ago) link

The "weight of the DNC" that Bernie's ramshackle campaign couldn't overcome but Obama could somehow. We can blame this vague "rigging" for Bernie's loss (and not acknowledge that maybe he should campaigned in the south) but can't admit the Comey letter had an effect on Hillary's?

After the primary was pretty much over they called the differences between Trump and Clinton "a wash". Matt Christman perpetuated the deluded idea that the Bernie delegates at the Nevada caucus were "disenfranchised", just as one example. Granted it wasn't the job of the left to get Hillary elected (I'd have personally preferred Bernie for a number of reasons) but you don't get to act mad at her campaign for losing when you perpetuated the equivalency narrative throughout the campaign. Many Dems have been able to acknowledge that she was a vulnerable candidate that we were stuck with because not enough people ran but it seems like it would literally kill many on the left to just say "we got carried away".

Also, encouraging people to spread "Bernie Would've Won" memes is pretty asshole-ish and counter productive but I don't know maybe stopping actual fascism will require purging People who don't hate Hillary but I could be wrong.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:23 (three years ago) link

but you don't get to act mad at her campaign for losing when you perpetuated the equivalency narrative throughout the campaign

You kind of do? I listened to the post-DNC podcasts and a lot of commentary revolved around things that seemed iffy even at the time when it seemed like a lock - trotting out Mike Bloomberg, the lineup of neocon security/military people lining up for Hillary, etc.. It goes back to 2000/2002 - if you're going to present Republican-lite as the face of the party why wouldn't the voters who are into that just vote for real Republicans? They were also right back then on focusing on decency being poor judgement.

Were the Hillary fainting jokes in bad taste? Sure. That's still the most tiresome part of the podcast, but it's also a fairly small part of it.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:33 (three years ago) link

Funny thing about Bloomberg is we was one of the few convention speakers who got kind of a positive reaction from the Bernie or busters there when he mentioned that he described himself as an "independent" what or John Lewis got anti-tpp chants. There was definitely messaging problems w HRC's campaign but given the consequences of the election (potential loss of social programs for one) people with visibility on the left seemed reluctant to encourage voting for the obviously better choice of the corny old lady and pickedvthr campsign apart for things all high level campaigns do becuae they were probably confident she was going to win anyway.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 08:55 (three years ago) link

Also, encouraging people to spread "Bernie Would've Won" memes is pretty asshole-ish and counter productive but I don't know maybe stopping actual fascism will require purging People who don't hate Hillary but I could be wrong.

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, January 4, 2017 3:23 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't think spreading memes has ever been productive in any direction

seriously didn't realize there were still people aside from high ranking democrat pols and frederik who think the answer to defeating trumpism over the next 4 years is to double down on the 2016 strategy

this is some gluing humpty dumpty together again shit

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:00 (three years ago) link

that Bernie's ramshackle campaign couldn't overcome but Obama could somehow

yeah it's almost like these are two different candidates running on entirely different platforms with entirely different relationships to the DNC

how close are you to running out the "of course the DNC sank bernie, he wasn't a member of their party!" argument that was briefly popular 8 months ago in an entirely different america

qualx, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:04 (three years ago) link

Yes, Mike Bloomberg is a well-known figure on the socialist lecture circuit. Hugely popular on the left. Yuge.

It is a reminder that the one thing worse than jokes about Hillary's medical problems is the narrative around BernieBros and "Bernie or Busters" where whatever ills that pop into your head can be ascribed to them.

The fundamental disconnect here appears to be your belief that the left's issue with Clinton is that she was "corny."

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:06 (three years ago) link

xxp obvs

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:06 (three years ago) link

I never said "everything was perfect w HRC's messaging except that leftist twitter and this podcast didn't like it". I'd have preferred a different candidate but Hillary won the primary, she was obviously the better candidate compared to Trump. When you vote for a candidate you are voting a coalition into office. Making equivrlrncies beyeeen her and Trump was ridiculous then (kind of offensive actually when you put in perspective ) and looks even more ridiculous now. Maybe you can post the photo of them at a party together I've seen a million times and I'll withdraw that.

We have social media, we know the left got "carried away" I don''t see the point in denying that base level reality. I mean people were literally crying st the convention because they thought Bernie would get the nomination somehow.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 4 January 2017 09:12 (three years ago) link

TrueAnon's general saltiness towards anarchists / police and prison abolition as a short-term goal is going to be a sticking point for some of their listeners, i think. There's a been a backlash on their Twitch streams / patreon comments. idk about Chapo.

Looking forward to the new one on Brazil with the excellent Vincent Bevins.

ShariVari, Friday, 12 June 2020 07:45 (three weeks ago) link

Chapo just going with a Matt's ponderings this week was smart. By Monday they should be around with some update on lib co-opting of the protests, covid increases, hellworld baby etc

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 12 June 2020 12:26 (three weeks ago) link

Bevins TA episode is terrific.

ShariVari, Friday, 12 June 2020 13:18 (three weeks ago) link

yeah, dizzying

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 12 June 2020 17:39 (three weeks ago) link

I fancy that book

Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Friday, 12 June 2020 17:44 (three weeks ago) link

Communists hate shopping
Women be shopping
Communists hate women

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 12 June 2020 20:49 (three weeks ago) link

I haven’t listened to Chapo for years but I thought Matt’s take on the current situation, from the 8th, was good.

ShariVari, Saturday, 13 June 2020 06:08 (three weeks ago) link

ive just seen it happen enough exactly as described, its a way of shutting down challenges to shared assumptions way too often by maligning the underlying intent of the person doing the challenging. its a shortcut to not dealing w the questions raised, bc it immediately undermines the motives of the person raising them, might a well be an accusation of "virtue signaling"

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, May 30, 2020 7:21 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a thing basically everyone does imo

― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, May 30, 2020 7:24 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

at times i guess but there are also arguments where its clear one side is ignoring arguments to impugn motives and the other side is simply...making arguments. Some arguments should be ignored & some should be engaged w but it's always interesting which ideas are considered off the table

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 13 June 2020 06:57 (three weeks ago) link

I haven’t listened to Chapo for years but I thought Matt’s take on the current situation, from the 8th, was good.

this whole situation has made clear he's the only chapo capable of generating any kind of perspective on these events instead of just riffing on pre-existing media. I don't always agree w/ him but I've enjoyed his updates a lot on the whole.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 June 2020 16:24 (three weeks ago) link

So what happened to Virgil Texas? I noticed he hadn’t been on the show or twitter for months and found this:

Ooh. I welcome this change. pic.twitter.com/fFmQetr5ks

— larks tongues in aspies (@htmlmencken) April 11, 2020

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:33 (three weeks ago) link

I got the impression he was getting burned out on the whole enterprise and possibly had some family things to address

mh, Sunday, 14 June 2020 03:39 (three weeks ago) link

some may think he disappeared after Bernie left the race, but he also disappeared around the time flavored juul pods were banned which may be more significant

mh, Sunday, 14 June 2020 03:40 (three weeks ago) link

They refused to let him do another Call of Cthulhu RPG repisode

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 14 June 2020 03:44 (three weeks ago) link

Matt said he’s fine, they still talk.

I figure it was burnout with the campaign ending then quarantine hitting all at once did him in for a while

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 15 June 2020 01:22 (three weeks ago) link

he's back, folks

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 04:01 (two weeks ago) link

Checking this thread obv

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 11:02 (two weeks ago) link

I appreciated the breakdown of White Fragility even if it could have been done in, charitably, 1/3 of the time

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 14:46 (two weeks ago) link

I listened to part of it and got the idea very quickly. I also kind of wished they could be a little less in full takedown mode, because I think there is a grain of an idea in there that's worth salvaging.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:01 (two weeks ago) link

Like, underneath all the author's bullshit, I think the concept of white fragility may be of some use in describing something real.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:02 (two weeks ago) link

There are some fleeting moments of acknowledgement, but I don't think they're wrong to focus on the negative when it's the literal #1 bestseller of the moment and probably guiding a lot of thinking

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 15:06 (two weeks ago) link

wait, where is virgil back?

mh, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 19:35 (two weeks ago) link

he's on the latest ep about the white fragility book

TRANCED INTO RADIOACTIVE PUREE (Will M.), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 19:37 (two weeks ago) link

I keeping hearing “white fragility” to the tune of “White Minority.”

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 20:58 (two weeks ago) link

There are some fleeting moments of acknowledgement, but I don't think they're wrong to focus on the negative when it's the literal #1 bestseller of the moment and probably guiding a lot of thinking

Looking at this book as an example of the white HR-culture corporate diversity grift is fine, imo. They are not well positioned to talk about workplace bias / culture training more broadly, though, and that's the direction it headed in.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 10:07 (two weeks ago) link

yeah there are sometimes moments when they talk about workplace stuff and it comes off like the "it feels like a bag of sand" scene from 40 year old virgin

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 13:58 (two weeks ago) link

yeah I mean they have all presumably worked conventional jobs but....not recently lol

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:00 (two weeks ago) link

I've been in offices plenty. HR talk is still wildly alienating. I haven't had to engage much with all that, thankfully.

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:04 (two weeks ago) link

there was a couple of things I can't remember, just comments where I was like o rly? not a huge deal and seemed like the book is kind of a grift

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 14:05 (two weeks ago) link

Amber & Matt on the Jacobin show tonight
https://youtu.be/qcuj7SWlgg4

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:30 (two weeks ago) link

In my last job, after our diversity training, a guyanese coworker said to me "I'm really glad they do this, we didn't have anything like this in my country and the bosses could basically get away with anything." Since then I've rolled my eyes a little bit less at these sorts of things. Although the last one I attended had a section called "Has 'Me Too' Gone 'Too Far'?" which I thought was a little bit off.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 18 June 2020 01:03 (two weeks ago) link

Also, that's just a general comment on workplace trainings, not on her schtick

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 18 June 2020 01:08 (two weeks ago) link

So the Chapo subreddit got shit down for some reason?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 00:44 (six days ago) link

Because of the Chapo-to-fash pipeline IIRC

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 00:49 (six days ago) link

Brendan’s Iraq podcast is pretty good, even though I’ve tried to erase 2001-2004 from my memory completely.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 00:54 (six days ago) link

Matt mentioned they're gonna try to get Perlstein on when he does the rounds for his new book

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 01:50 (six days ago) link

Absolutely loved the first (or I guess free intro?) ep of that. Then totally forgot about it. Need to pick back up.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 01:52 (six days ago) link

I’ve started now that it’s not behind the Stitcher paywall.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 01:55 (six days ago) link

the chapos must be overjoyed about the demise of the subreddit

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 June 2020 02:04 (six days ago) link

Street Fight product placement in the news pic.twitter.com/8oGQK7VF4j

— Bяyan (@MurderBryan) July 1, 2020

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 22:57 (five days ago) link

You never see anyone in a Chapo shirt getting arrested.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 22:57 (five days ago) link

https://imgur.com/Qd5Xy9u

their hatred of their fans, who directly supply them with their livelihood, is consistently one of their better bits

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 06:50 (four days ago) link

Did they get rid of it because they needed a somewhat high profile 'left' subreddit to go alongside the binning of the donald subreddit?

anvil, Thursday, 2 July 2020 07:10 (four days ago) link

That's the narrative reason, but tbh they'd been flirting with a ban for ages because Reddit doesn't differentiate btwn "killing slaveowners is/was good" and white supremacist shit

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 07:13 (four days ago) link

Yeah, seems like a pretty easy one to bin off. But it does leave you wondering what would they have done if there wasn't such an obvious choice

anvil, Thursday, 2 July 2020 07:17 (four days ago) link

Twitter addicts feeling superior to anyone else is the ultimate bit.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 2 July 2020 08:19 (four days ago) link

even in reddit’s free speech days edgy-left subreddits got banned v quickly unlike the nazi/MRA/paedophile ones

that said cth sub also had a lot of bigoted roganesque dickheads alongside the anarchists/marxists/tankies trying to “radicalise” them so idk

How did the chapo reddit get like that? (or was it from the beginning)

anvil, Thursday, 2 July 2020 09:46 (four days ago) link

reddit

Far be it for me to suggest Left is talking shit but general opinion is that it was the most trans-friendly space on reddit, which seems to be rather not-Rogany.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:26 (four days ago) link

at least the most trans-friendly space on reddit not explicitly created for that purpose, AFAICT

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:44 (four days ago) link


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