Pie vs. Cake

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There have been threads on this topic, but the matter has not been put to a vote...until now! Inspired by a Twitter follow who came down hard on the cake side of things, as did many of her followers. Food poll fiends of ILE, I put the question to you: cake, or pie?

Poll Results

OptionVotes
pie 31
cake 17


though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:37 (two years ago) Permalink

in the uk, pies are savoury and "cake" refers to balanitis

banfred bann (wins), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:41 (two years ago) Permalink

ban all false binaries

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Cake, easily. Not much of a tradition for dessert pies where I'm from, but whenever I eat one, I regret my choice and gaze longingly towards the cakes. Lack of tradition yields lack of quality, perhaps.

That said, dinner pies >>>>>>>>>>> smörgåstårta. Are there other dinner cakes? Aspic, sorta, I guess?

Rimsky-Koskenkorva (Øystein), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:46 (two years ago) Permalink

I think limiting the realm of "dinner cake/pie" to the savory ones is a mistake

throw off your shackles, my friends

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:48 (two years ago) Permalink

on one hand, most pastry is awful, on the other, savoury always beats sweet and cakes are barely even food

ogmor, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:53 (two years ago) Permalink

in related european news i have been considering a panettone vs stollen poll, but not sure italy is getting much of a look-in there (i find it a very tough call myself)

imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:55 (two years ago) Permalink

argument for cake: it's delicious
argument for pie: it's delicious

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 16:57 (two years ago) Permalink

I mean really like those spanish tortillas, the eggy delicious thick-potato-omelette things, are cakes

cakes are barely even food

ban

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:03 (two years ago) Permalink

my vote btw is for pie because I am a fucking glutton. there's no other way to describe me, I like to eat and eat. and I like foods I can eat a lot of. cake, no matter how good it is, I'm good after one piece. especially if it's a rich frosting. the frosting will knock me out. pie, line up half a dozen of them fuckers, I will eat them in sequence and put a bullet between your eyes if you try to sneak a piece from one of the not-in-use pies while I'm busy. cake is lovely, but at the end of the day, it cannot supply me with the quantity I need.

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:05 (two years ago) Permalink

what if... we put frosting on the pie

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:06 (two years ago) Permalink

DISRUPT YR DESSERT

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:06 (two years ago) Permalink

this is so easily pie that im ashamed for the threadstarter, who til now had some credibility on ilx food threads

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:37 (two years ago) Permalink

TS: "When come back, bring cake" vs "Birthday Pie" by Rihanna

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:42 (two years ago) Permalink

the cake is a pie

emil.y, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:42 (two years ago) Permalink

^^^ gets it

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:43 (two years ago) Permalink

ice cream cake

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:46 (two years ago) Permalink

pen pineapple apple pen

imago, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:48 (two years ago) Permalink

i come from a pie family and will uphold our tradition here

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:48 (two years ago) Permalink

joan completely otm

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:51 (two years ago) Permalink

nut pies (pecan, walnut, etc) > cheesecakes > peanut butter pie & similar > cake > fruit pies

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 15 December 2016 17:55 (two years ago) Permalink

apple pie and rhubarb pie are vital, the other fruit pies i agree are low on the totem pole.

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:11 (two years ago) Permalink

waht

cherry is wonderful, strawberry rhubarb is wonderful, lemon meringue is wonderful, blueberry is just okay tho

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:15 (two years ago) Permalink

strawberry rhubarb falls under rhubarb
lemon meringue falls under custard pies not fruit pies imo

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:16 (two years ago) Permalink

chicken pie above all else

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:17 (two years ago) Permalink

questions before I commit: is cobbler pie?
is cheesecake pie?

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:17 (two years ago) Permalink

cheesecake is pie
quiche is pie
cobbler is not pie

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:19 (two years ago) Permalink

pie is a homeomorphism of pizza in the Four Foods Theory

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:21 (two years ago) Permalink

The early Greeks considered it a cake. Some modern authors point to the presence of many eggs, the sole source of leavening, as proof that it is a torte. Still others claim that the separate crust, the soft filling, and the absence of flour prove that it is a custard pie.[12]

new noise, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:22 (two years ago) Permalink

xp

is shepherd's pie pie?
is pizza pie?

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:23 (two years ago) Permalink

Cake is a better frosting delivery vehicle. What is it that pie does again?

xps: if cheesecake is pie that's totally not fair.

how's life, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:25 (two years ago) Permalink

shepherd's pie is not pie, it is a casserole
pizza is pizza pie

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:28 (two years ago) Permalink

boston cream pie is a cake

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:29 (two years ago) Permalink

voted pie (peak value) over cake (career value)

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:29 (two years ago) Permalink

if pizza is allowed as pie, pie will wipe the floor with cake. or something else a bit less disgusting sounding.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:30 (two years ago) Permalink

not necessarily, if pizza is allowed as pie then it stands to reason that gin & tonic can be allowed as cake and then it's all to play for again

banfred bann (wins), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:32 (two years ago) Permalink

i think for this poll we are supposed to consider the traditional dessert pie, excluding pizza, cheesecake, savoury pies, etc. otherwise putting it up against cake makes less sense.

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:32 (two years ago) Permalink

cheesecake is probably the grayest area here

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:33 (two years ago) Permalink

cherry is wonderful, strawberry rhubarb is wonderful, lemon meringue is wonderful, blueberry is just okay tho

man you think you know a guy and then he busts in with a "blueberry is just ok" take. blueberry pie done right is a top five pie

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:41 (two years ago) Permalink

coconut cream > tart cherry > chess > apple > other

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:42 (two years ago) Permalink

The album title is presumably a reworking of the famous "Let Them Eat Cake" quote

dance band (tangenttangent), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:43 (two years ago) Permalink

want to make a lemon chess pie now hmmm

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:44 (two years ago) Permalink

im assuming this is referring to dessert pies and dessert cakes so does not encompass fatayer/samosas/empanadas vs spanish tortillas. savoury pies vs savoury cakes is difficult. sweet pies vs sweet cakes is easy, clear pies is the answer

marcos, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:44 (two years ago) Permalink

imo pizza is very tricky because its crust has yeast. proper cakes and pies really don't, I think -- pie crust, savory or sweet, is flour & shortening whether it's butter or lard or vegetable shortening. cakes that rise are muffins or biscuits. pizza really kinda is just the perfection of savory pie but in my view can only enter a pie vs. cake poll on somewhat false pretenses

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:45 (two years ago) Permalink

agree that leavening is disqualifying here but in a grand taxonomy of food pizza is clearly in the same branch as pie

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:47 (two years ago) Permalink

chocolate bourbon pecan pie is the apex dessert btw

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:47 (two years ago) Permalink

what is a "clear pie"

¶ (DJP), Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:48 (two years ago) Permalink

that does sound good

ciderpress, Thursday, 15 December 2016 18:50 (two years ago) Permalink

The Dutch Apple Pie does look like a pie! It has the bottom bit and the crumble makes a kind of lid, so it's more pie-like to me than tart type things.

The 'kitchn' link pretty much firms up the true definition, but I still maintain the average (British) person would expect both top and bottom crusts on something claiming to be a pie. Meaning is use and all that.

emil.y, Wednesday, 21 December 2016 22:18 (two years ago) Permalink

the average (British) person

outrageous imo

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 23:21 (two years ago) Permalink

I voted cake before thinking this through and I've been regretting it every day

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 23:23 (two years ago) Permalink

It's ok, there's no electoral college in ilx and the right candidate won.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Wednesday, 21 December 2016 23:28 (two years ago) Permalink

ice cream cake got robbed

a Warren Beatty film about Earth (El Tomboto), Thursday, 22 December 2016 00:13 (two years ago) Permalink

Nobody heard it, the ice cream cake
But still it lay moaning:
I was much further out than you thought
And not waving but melting.

estela, Thursday, 22 December 2016 00:50 (two years ago) Permalink

There's no argument that pie is more versatile and pretty fantastic. But cake is CAKE.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 22 December 2016 10:09 (two years ago) Permalink

when did cake bacon

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 22 December 2016 11:33 (two years ago) Permalink

it's possible cake baconed before bacon

did pie bacon before weebl? probably

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 22 December 2016 11:34 (two years ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/barackobama/status/496413655202676736?lang=en

ogmor, Thursday, 22 December 2016 11:36 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah well he set the scene for Trump, so he can fuck off.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 22 December 2016 12:16 (two years ago) Permalink

There is no doubt that Trump prefers cake.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 December 2016 15:07 (two years ago) Permalink

cake baconed??

surm, Thursday, 22 December 2016 16:05 (two years ago) Permalink

i thought that was cupcakes

surm, Thursday, 22 December 2016 16:05 (two years ago) Permalink

tbf in the uk all of baking baconed the moment mary berry lifted a hopeful contestant's vol-au-vent to her lips

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 22 December 2016 16:59 (two years ago) Permalink

bakened

loudmouth darraghmac ween (darraghmac), Thursday, 22 December 2016 17:18 (two years ago) Permalink

boke

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Thursday, 22 December 2016 17:27 (two years ago) Permalink

bakt

F♯ A♯ (∞), Thursday, 22 December 2016 17:30 (two years ago) Permalink

love chocolate

The times they are a changing, perhaps (map), Thursday, 22 December 2016 18:08 (two years ago) Permalink

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0YGaLwVIAAwCad.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 23 December 2016 17:08 (two years ago) Permalink

Think you'll find that the protruding head makes that a torte

illbient microtonal poetry Surbiton (imago), Friday, 23 December 2016 17:15 (two years ago) Permalink

u_u

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 December 2016 17:59 (two years ago) Permalink

also must allow doo doo pies

I'm a little embarrassed by how long I laughed at this.

¶ (DJP), Saturday, 24 December 2016 06:09 (two years ago) Permalink

let me tell you something about cake: i want 5 (not four) cakes for this Christmas

because at Christmas, you eat cake

surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 18:26 (two years ago) Permalink

That is more than fair. Cake can have its day, just as every dog has its day.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 December 2016 18:44 (two years ago) Permalink

i have eaten a roughly equal amount of cake and pie over the last 2 days, pie probably edging it

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:11 (two years ago) Permalink

The English seem to favor puddings on Christmas, the poor sods.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:17 (two years ago) Permalink

Christmas pudding is great but i've got the feeling i'm the only one in this house who likes it

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:20 (two years ago) Permalink

i will readily admit that i could not deny bread or banana pudding on any day

surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:21 (two years ago) Permalink

Don't even start a debate as to what is or is not a pudding.

That said, I just baked a dozen individual sticky toffee puddings topped with kumquats that counter the sweetness. Just waiting to be doused with toffee sauce and put under the broiler.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:53 (two years ago) Permalink

Should say I also made an annoyingly elaborate 4-layer boozy rum cake (took three days!). And my wife made a cheesecake. Or cream cheese pie, if you prefer.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:54 (two years ago) Permalink

would eat kumquat toffee pudding and/or rum cake, obv

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 19:57 (two years ago) Permalink

RUM CAKE omg

surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:09 (two years ago) Permalink

It's truly insane. Four-layer sponge cake soaked with rum syrup, with layers of rum-spiked cream in between and around the whole pile of cakes, then coated with a rum-spiked whipped cream. In total: 14 eggs, but no butter!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:26 (two years ago) Permalink

damnnnn!!! jealous.

surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:34 (two years ago) Permalink

I think my wife is making a chocolate bourbon pecan pie for tomorrow's dessert festivities. At least I heard the idea floated and now it better happen otherwise a bunch of presents are going straight into the fireplace.

¶ (DJP), Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:52 (two years ago) Permalink

lol

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 December 2016 20:57 (two years ago) Permalink

lol

surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:01 (two years ago) Permalink

I seem to hear in my mind the faraway voice of an unknown genius who is saying:

"Hmmm. Lovely. Could anything be better than this pecan pie? (inspiration hits like a ton of bricks) Wait! I know! A bourbon pecan pie! But wait! Dare I lift my eyes yet higher, where on yonder heights I seem to see...yes! (swoons briefly) A chocolate bourbon pecan pie!"

At which point the owner of the voice expires in delight and a welter of exclamation points.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:05 (two years ago) Permalink

pecan pie + lemon meringue are my 2 pies

surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:06 (two years ago) Permalink

Yeah, lemon meringue or key lime or cherry for me but on the other hand anything with a healthy booze component is a-ok

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:27 (two years ago) Permalink

also is Baked Alaska a pie?

surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:30 (two years ago) Permalink

No. It doesn't even have a crust, does it? Just ice cream in a shell of merengue on cake?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:36 (two years ago) Permalink

lol yes

surm, Saturday, 24 December 2016 21:42 (two years ago) Permalink

'Just' ice cream in a shell of meringue on a cake. 'Just'.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 25 December 2016 09:29 (two years ago) Permalink

Hahah truthbomb

surm, Sunday, 25 December 2016 18:48 (two years ago) Permalink

I wanted baked Alaska for Xmas so bad and white Russians!

surm, Sunday, 25 December 2016 18:49 (two years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

ctrl+F "pancake" 0/0

(was reviewing this for a Pi day work argument)

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 14 March 2019 17:20 (one week ago) Permalink


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