"croissant-munching, latte-sipping": instances of misconceived media-class self-loathing ITT

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Coffee

koogs, Saturday, 25 March 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link

These big-city elites scoffing chicken korma.

least said, sergio mendes (sic), Saturday, 25 March 2023 20:53 (one year ago) link

I tried some camp coffee a few months ago. I remember wondering if people were different back then, or if coffee had changed, because it was almost entirely... how did the line go? It was "a cupful of liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea." It was like a surprisingly accurate recreation of coffee based on entirely on a written description of the taste.

I was tempted to post an image of it on Twitter with a caption to the effect that there's nothing camp about coffee.

Or alternatively some spiel about how the label normalised imperialism. Is the Scottish soldier a perpetrator of imperialism, or a victim? To my eternal regret I held my tongue.

Ashley Pomeroy, Saturday, 25 March 2023 22:35 (one year ago) link

Due to a massive wikipedia rabbit hole, we're walking over to Dean Cemetery to look at his grave today! He is mostly a perpetrator though "Which side do you cheer for in the Boer War?" is always tricky.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 26 March 2023 11:10 (one year ago) link

Rocket grows wild on the pavement outside my house in London N14.

fetter, Sunday, 26 March 2023 11:26 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

Got one of those mini almond magnum knock offs from lidl in the freezer , I appreciate it isnt an “goat cheese sorbet” but to us working class northerners with no tube system to take shelter in it is a brief delicious respite from the harsh midday sun https://t.co/q3tPZYEu2I

— Y (@tinscognito__) July 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 07:52 (ten months ago) link

some kind of parallel phenomenon: the adoption of absolutely any variety of mass-produced cheap shit as a signifier of being working class, by people who by any reasonable judgement are not actually working class.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 08:37 (ten months ago) link

like greggs for example

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 08:38 (ten months ago) link

Like "kappa" bitd

Mark G, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 08:39 (ten months ago) link

The #1 in that Vittles article btw is an Afghani ice cream place in Ilford mostly servicing the local community, not some haute cuisine thing.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 08:46 (ten months ago) link

Where's the media-class self-loathing in the original tweet?

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 08:56 (ten months ago) link

goat cheese sorbet

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:01 (ten months ago) link

It's in the reply. Though Ruby is hardly media class.

shut the fuck up you weasel faced cunt - can you let this guy, who is an amazing ice cream maker by the way, have his day in the sun? you sad fuck

— ruby tandoh (@rubytandoh) July 6, 2023

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:02 (ten months ago) link

obv there are going to be more independent ice cream producing dairy farms in rural parts of the country than in London, there are loads in W Yorkshire, some of them established in the 50's and they seem to be thriving. There is always a queue at the Dixons ice cream shop and it isn't in a posh part of Town - it's near a red light district by the gas works. gl with getting on a rammed tube train full of sweaty, angry, stressed out commuters - just to cool down!

calzino, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:11 (ten months ago) link

I really like Ruby but she’s not at her best there. There aren’t many likes or RTs on that reply (which was funny!)

half the population ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (gyac), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:14 (ten months ago) link

Maybe the person replying is a genuine working class northerner with a chip (butty) on their shoulder about "that London" though?

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:16 (ten months ago) link

(xps)

Foot Heads Arms Body (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:16 (ten months ago) link

the idea that you can take shelter from the heat on the tube is either complete ignorance or a bit

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:17 (ten months ago) link

xp they’re not, he is a top tier Twitter troll.

People say it’s only confetti but what if it was depleted uranium?

— Y (@tinscognito__) July 9, 2023

(who is an amazing ice cream maker by the way) (gyac), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:18 (ten months ago) link

Dunking on London is good and proper but doing so by ridiculing Weird Foreign Foods is p dodgy imo. Ruby otm.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:26 (ten months ago) link

Lol no that post is classic. Y is from the north (Preston I think) and yes, he is just a funny troll who knows exactly what he's doing.

Ruby's reply to that got more RTs than her own piece. Classic twitter.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:28 (ten months ago) link

Oh well if it was classic and epic trolling I take it all back, Y has won the internet.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:31 (ten months ago) link

He has! It's an appreciation revival. No criticism allowed.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:34 (ten months ago) link

unimpressive trolling if you ask me, but I'm just annoyed because it whooshed over me!

calzino, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:36 (ten months ago) link

Tins is a British Muslim from Preston, it’s a bit for his audience who are all aware of this

(who is an amazing ice cream maker by the way) (gyac), Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:39 (ten months ago) link

oh right - I see it now. Will take note that Tins is NOT Workington Man for the next time I read their posts!

calzino, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 09:44 (ten months ago) link

That's the joke jpg

It's a pretty good piece by RT, the piss take enhances it.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 10:11 (ten months ago) link

Mark Dolan just has fags and a pint of Bass while he eats a pie stuffed with another pie

No way this former stand-up has ever ordered a colourful drink with a foreign name, and he would never swill. More of a chugger. pic.twitter.com/dW3N9HdCUz

— Jack Blackburn 🇺🇦 (@HackBlackburn) July 14, 2023

Dan Worsley, Friday, 14 July 2023 14:18 (ten months ago) link

negroni swilling? is he specifically targeting ILX?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 14 July 2023 14:33 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

Kayleigh: You flip over to our commander-in-chief leaving his spin class and pilates with a drink in his hand… We did not elect pilates instructor. pic.twitter.com/JCjXaeHoN1

— Acyn (@Acyn) August 24, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 August 2023 17:54 (eight months ago) link

how dare he? Trump would never exercise

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:32 (eight months ago) link

Fox continues to carry water for Trump even after Trump casts them into the outer darkness.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:34 (eight months ago) link

many of their audience probably think that Pilates is some sort of Christ-killing demon association

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:40 (eight months ago) link

also is she implying that he is walking around with an alcoholic beverage? because it looks like a smoothie to me

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:42 (eight months ago) link

he went to pilates class, now he thinks he knows shit about plane crash???

graduate pilates school, then talk shit how bout tht

But his face would not turn into hot Kirby (Evan), Thursday, 24 August 2023 18:53 (eight months ago) link

if he'd done 2 hours of the hits any true Aphex fan would be outraged

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 September 2023 12:49 (eight months ago) link

This was an attack, not a gig: stop-start blares, schizophrenic synths, artillery-fire drums with not a hint of structure

I don't see the problem.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 September 2023 13:00 (eight months ago) link

Don’t threaten me with a good time!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Sunday, 3 September 2023 13:08 (eight months ago) link

four months pass...

“underwater basket-weaving”

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 10:04 (three months ago) link

I have read that there is a native American tradition of weaving baskets in water (to make the materials more pliable). And that the use of the phrase to mean "doing something pointless" is potentially disrespectful.

Washington Post Malone (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 12:36 (three months ago) link

Much of this sort of thing is pretty racist when ye scratch the surface, and you usually don't have to scratch hard

Ethinically Ambigaus (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 13:08 (three months ago) link

A course on underwater basket-weaving was genuinely on offer at Reed College when I was a student there back in 1990.

Piedie Gimbel, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 13:14 (three months ago) link

Surprisingly old, per Wikipedia:

"The phrase in its pejorative sense has been used since at least the mid-1950s. According to a 1953 article in the Boston Globe on 'Hepster Lingo,' 'Any snap course in school is "underwater basket weaving.'"

jaymc, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 13:46 (three months ago) link

Also seeing references in 1960s congressional hearings, via Google Books:

SENATOR ALLOTT. But excuse me, Mr. Driver, I don't have my correspondence here on this but on this same subject, I am just as interested as you and the chairman or anyone else is in seeing that we don t get into the situation that we were in after World War II where we had universities setting up courses in underwater basket weaving, and all this sort of thing.

MR. MONK. Chicken sexing.

jaymc, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 14:16 (three months ago) link

So, it seems to partially reflect an elite anxiety, post-GI Bill, about the opportunities for more people to get college degree through new types of institutions/programs/curricula.

jaymc, Wednesday, 31 January 2024 14:39 (three months ago) link

At my college (which is the east coast iteration of Piedie’s one) the ‘underwater basket-weaving’ dig was definitely in common use, even by the students.

steely flan (suzy), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 15:15 (three months ago) link

lol S my ex who went to your school (we've talked about this before) did a semester at Reed because of course he did.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 15:36 (three months ago) link

My dad LOVED to use the underwater basket weaving thing when I was an English/creative writing major.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 15:37 (three months ago) link

Weaving a basket underwater would actually involve a pretty good set of useful skills.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 31 January 2024 15:48 (three months ago) link


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