Are you considering purchasing a gun?

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Just a simple straw poll.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
I will never own a gun if I can at all help it. 74
I am not buying a gun but I thought about it. 23
I hadn't given buying a gun any thought before now. No. 17
I already own at least one gun and am considering more. 4
I hadn't given buying a gun any thought before now. Yes. 4
I already own a gun (or guns) and am all set. 2
I am buying my first gun. 2


¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:24 (four years ago) link

please note that this is more about the act of purchasing a new/used gun than it is about general gun ownership, hence lack of "I used to own a gun but I got rid of it" options

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:26 (four years ago) link

I can't see it doing me much good, and I've read too many horror stories about kids + guns to ever feel comfortable having one in the same house with children, so no.

If lived out in the boonies and it was just me and my wife? probably.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:27 (four years ago) link

November 9th was the first time in my adult life that I ever gave any serious consideration to the thought of buying a gun. That's where we are now, I guess.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:28 (four years ago) link

i don't really want a gun at all, even if extreme precautions are taken the idea of my kids finding a gun and playing with it scares the shit out of me, it happens often enough that it is something i strenuously want to avoid and not owning a gun is the easiest way

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:28 (four years ago) link

xp outic otm

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:28 (four years ago) link

my brother-in-law keeps a shotgun in the house but has no ammunition, for protection in the case of a break-in the threat of a shotgun is pretty strong so i can see the logic in that.

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:30 (four years ago) link

it hasn't crossed my mind honestly

diary of a mod how's life (wins), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:30 (four years ago) link

One of the first sentences my wife said to me on November 9 was "I want to buy a gun." I had already had the exact same thought.

Probably will not do it as long as we live in NYC because (1) license is very expensive and hard to get here (2) not sure my apartment has a good place to secure a gun and (3) gun as home defense in an apartment seems like a big risk of just harming your neighbors (on top of the already present risk of harming family). I also imagine that btw licensing, training, the gun and some sort of gun safe I'd be looking at a couple thousand dollar investment.

Still considering it though.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:31 (four years ago) link

I have been considering a gun purchase since June

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:34 (four years ago) link

I thought about it very, very briefly in the days after the election, and mentioned to my wife, even acknowledging at the time that it was fear-driven and irrational. And that the most likely outcome of having a gun in the house would be me harming myself with it, either through incompetence or when experiencing low points in my depression. We both decided it would not be a good idea.

I also acknowledge that as a married white middle-class male, I am not one of the ones who needs to be afraid enough to buy a firearm. But if any of the African-American or Latino families in my neighborhood have bought one since 11/9, I would neither be surprised nor would I think it was a bad idea.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:35 (four years ago) link

well really to be more accurate I've been considering purchasing a gun since the death of Eric Garner but I did't start talking about it until June

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:36 (four years ago) link

I think the country is absolutely becoming a more dangerous place but I don't think owning a gun ultimately makes your life safer, so no, until the government actually collapses I'm never touching a gun

and djp - especially w/r/t state condoned violence, possessing a gun *definitely* doesn't make your life safer

iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:40 (four years ago) link

thank you for the patronizing advice

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:41 (four years ago) link

The gun I currently own is actually my wife's, a pistol which she purchased years ago when living by herself. She had stored it with her parents until we had a reason to be concerned that they could not safely keep it, at which point we retrieved it and brought it into our home. We benefit, at this point, from not owning any ammunition for said gun.

I have wanted more guns for years, the desire for which falls into the following two categories:

1.) I have often dreamt of taking up hunting, which would require a gun, but have not been able to take this dream seriously enough to go through with buying one.

2.) During the past several years, I've been disturbed as I watched conservatives who were wildly out-of-touch with reality stockpiling guns at every opportunity. It has occurred to me that they are now the ones who are incredibly well-armed. There is a seriously lack of balance in this regard in America. My head keeps playing out worst case scenarios to our national nightmare. God knows what is going to happen? My wife is more gung ho than I about having a gun for protection, and brought up her desire to have another gun on November 9. I still do not at this moment think I will buy another gun for this purpose, but the consideration is becoming more serious.

how's life, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:46 (four years ago) link

My mother has a safe full of my dad's guns that I can have my choice of if I want, but I don't want. Ideally there'd be some gun buyback program where I could decommission them at a profit. A small part of me wants my mother to sell them and split the proceeds with her kids, but the guns are safer right where they are, out of anybody's hands.

aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuu (melting robot) (WilliamC), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:48 (four years ago) link

I also imagine that btw licensing, training, the gun and some sort of gun safe I'd be looking at a couple thousand dollar investment.

In addition to the general truth that guns actually decrease a family's safety, this has been the major impediment for me. I have home repairs that need to be done that I can't afford.

how's life, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:49 (four years ago) link

everybody's situation is different but for me personally and in the neighborhood where i live i think i would be much better served and protected by getting to know my neighbors and having them get to know me and my family

I've read Ta-nehisi Coates. (marcos), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:52 (four years ago) link

my fiancee would leave me if i bought a gun, so no

qop (crüt), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:57 (four years ago) link

also the sheer thought of holding a gun is terrifying to me

qop (crüt), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:58 (four years ago) link

recently began considering it, will most likely not

the late great, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 16:58 (four years ago) link

Wait, why would I need a gun?

rip van wanko, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:00 (four years ago) link

to shoot nazis

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:01 (four years ago) link

i've only considered getting a gun to prepare for a collapse-of-government, mad max post-apocalyptic world. but i figure even if i had a gun in that situation i'd get killed within the first week by all the gun nuts who own .50 cal sniper rifles and machine guns and have been preparing bunkers filled with 10 year old sardine cans

, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:01 (four years ago) link

i would never, ever buy a gun.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:02 (four years ago) link

I'm down to two guns because 'gun culture' is such a cesspool it's not even fun to target shoot unless I'm the absolute only soul at a range, no plans to own more and I have no interest in them as offensive or defensive weapons. Viscerally I can understand the desire despite statistics, etc., but I'm a single adult male in a fairly low-crime area. If there's a threat to me it's in property theft of some kind (burglary or robbery) and that guy can have my iPhone or TV or whatever.

Whenever my dad dies it's going to be a nightmare selling all of his but I think they should be able to pay off the mortgage so my mom will be secure at least in terms of living arrangements.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:03 (four years ago) link

i figure even if i had a gun in that situation i'd get killed within the first week by all the gun nuts who own .50 cal sniper rifles and machine guns and have been preparing bunkers filled with 10 year old sardine cans

otm

if life turns into a shitty action movie i will play the role of Extra #4 who gets shot through a restaurant windows and dies off camera during the first 10 minutes

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:03 (four years ago) link

trump is mandating gun ownership for every citizen I saw a very official looking faceBook post

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:04 (four years ago) link

One caveat to no more guns - I have no plans to go vegan any time soon so if the opportunity presented itself to hunt game and get out of the industrial meat system I would invest in a hunting rifle.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:05 (four years ago) link

I would, literally, rather be deported to the gas chambers than ever own a gun.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:06 (four years ago) link

A gun is like the home equivalent of trying to take a bath in a Yellowstone geyeser

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:08 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfgfKpnTCrM

salthigh, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:12 (four years ago) link

I would, literally, rather be deported to the gas chambers than ever own a gun.

I, on the other hand, would not.

¶ (DJP), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:13 (four years ago) link

yeah I'm not going willingly

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:14 (four years ago) link

voted never but yeah i could imagine some universe in which i owned a hunting rifle

ciderpress, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:16 (four years ago) link

Has anyone ITT considered emigrating as much as if not more than buying a gun?

nashwan, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:17 (four years ago) link

yes

how i would make a living elsewhere is the Q

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:19 (four years ago) link

I get the increased desire for personal safety, but this is comparable to deciding not to take planes anymore and just drive everywhere john madden style in the name of safety. and I guess john madden is getting some emotional comfort from riding around the country in a bus, it's not like that comfort is worth nothing to him, it's clearly worth a lot. but it is still ultimately not a rational decision and you're putting your own life and your family's life in marginally increased danger to get that comfort.

iatee, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:20 (four years ago) link

guns are good and fun just don't shoot your neighbors or whatever

adam, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:23 (four years ago) link

I am 95% sure that I'm eligible to receive German nationality because my paternal grandfather was deprived of his in 1941 by the Third Reich. Once I get that figured out and have a German passport that's basically my Plan.

slathered in cream and covered with stickers (silby), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 17:23 (four years ago) link

In ascending order of likelihood, I have considered buying a gun, leaving the country, moving somewhere very remote and isolated, and staying put and trying to figure out how to interface positively with my immediate community while the country at large voids its bowels in a protracted death spasm.

i need microsoft installed on my desktop, can you help (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:16 (four years ago) link

i'm too poor to buy a gun, let alone leave the country

a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:20 (four years ago) link

Honestly I feel like if the USA, aka the most powerful nation on earth by far, becomes so bad that I need to emigrate, it's hard to imagine where I'd feel confident in my safety.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:20 (four years ago) link

and i'd be more likely to kill myself than "protect" myself or whatever
i'm white and male btw

a but (brimstead), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:21 (four years ago) link

I have to say I've also thought a lot about leaving New York City and moving somewhere much less densely populated (but still liberal).

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:21 (four years ago) link

I'd leave the country if it was an option, but that's generally been true regardless of President. I have no particular allegiance to the US as an institution.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:21 (four years ago) link

Another thing that gives me pause about the gun thing is that it seems like it takes a lot of practice to really be able to use it effectively, like it's a big commitment. I suppose there's the deterrent effect and maybe that's more important. OTOH I also have a feeling I'd be a decent shot based on my sharp eyesight, icewater blood and skill at laser tag and virtuacop, lol.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:23 (four years ago) link

Decided a while back I would rather be killed for my beliefs than kill for them. No.

xiphoid beetlebum (rushomancy), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:24 (four years ago) link

I will never leave California

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:30 (four years ago) link

When I consider a gun as a functional tool, I do not foresee having any use for its functionality. It would be like me buying an arc welder, even though I have no need for it and no training in using it.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 22 November 2016 18:30 (four years ago) link

Lol <3

nob lacks, noirish (darraghmac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 20:54 (three months ago) link

Lmao Karl

rob, Saturday, 9 January 2021 20:55 (three months ago) link

Doesn't that make you more of an album poster?

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:01 (three months ago) link

i guess i mean that my albums are really too long, but some of the individual tracks are ok, you just have to sift through the garbage a bit to get to it

Karl Malone, Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:02 (three months ago) link

90s still a top decade imo so you have my full support.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:03 (three months ago) link

I feel the same way about guns as I do about nukes - I'd rather no one have any but if they must exist I don't only want (cops/the USA) to have 'em. but I don't have any dependents and don't care THAT much if I live or die so I'll probably never buy one.

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:05 (three months ago) link

My point re: lived experience around guns and in a gun friendly culture (which is... very not-rural) - an innate terror response to the idea of being in proximity to a gun is not the norm among Americans and expecting/demanding one isn't going to get you very far in whatever your goal is, likewise to the idea that anyone owning or considering the purchase of a gun has to be prepared to become Charles Bronson.

Gun laws up to private ownership of guns are not in my top 30 political issues either way - ban them, don't, godspeed. I have no intention of owning a gun again, unless I'm given a hermitage in the woods where I'll be required to hunt for meat.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:06 (three months ago) link

No, but i'm considering purchasing a nug

map, Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:12 (three months ago) link

an innate terror response to the idea of being in proximity to a gun is not the norm among Americans and expecting/demanding one isn't going to get you very far in whatever your goal is, likewise to the idea that anyone owning or considering the purchase of a gun has to be prepared to become Charles Bronson

I think everyone is aware this is the reality. and here we are

Yelp for gyros (wins), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:13 (three months ago) link

man alive just going to shoot people in the legs presumably

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:20 (three months ago) link

american gun culture seems totally normal and fine

plax (ico), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:20 (three months ago) link

leftist gun clubs

marg bar āmrikā (||||||||), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:22 (three months ago) link

It's an education, this thread.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:22 (three months ago) link

well, for some. others just seem to carry on assuming that whatever culture they grew up in is a norm seemingly without challenge

plax (ico), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:23 (three months ago) link

You think American gun laws are bad but then look at SWITZERLANDDDDDDDDD we should aspire to be more like Switzerland why aren't we all like the Swiss why oh why.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:24 (three months ago) link

I have wondered a few times what the attitude toward the parkland teens is since a lot of the us left decided the whole gun thing in america was fine actually

Yelp for gyros (wins), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:28 (three months ago) link

American gun laws are inextricably tangled up with white supremacy and patriarchy/masculinity and the whole toxic broth is too much for me to be interested in. But then I know no one is coming for me (probably) so I guess that's easy for me to say.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:29 (three months ago) link

I expect the Biden admin to close the ‘gun show loophole’* which is a good law (if only partially effective) and was (as of a couple of years ago) supported by a majority of gun owners. Plus you can sell it to gun dealers as free money since they can charge $25 to do a little paperwork and make a phone call.

That’s the kind of thing that can be built on, I’d think.

*barring Manchin and Sinema interference

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:35 (three months ago) link

an innate terror response to the idea of being in proximity to a gun is not the norm among Americans and expecting/demanding one isn't going to get you very far in whatever your goal is

America is a large diverse country. ... A couple months back a young woman with a baby in the car was killed in a drive by shooting. Not sure the baby lived either. She was pregnant, and the fetus also died. No idea why she was shot. Then there are all the people killed by police with guns. ... It is just too easy to kill people with guns. ... So, Karl, where can I order one of those nuclear warhead coffee tables? I think it would go well with my industrial boho interior design aesthetic

sarahell, Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:47 (three months ago) link

oops - killed a block away from my friend's house. He was one of the first people to respond.

sarahell, Saturday, 9 January 2021 21:48 (three months ago) link

leftist gun clubs

50/50 as to whether I'd be in one if I was amurrican

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:16 (three months ago) link

What if you were Albertan.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:18 (three months ago) link

Man alive, does your webmail work?

Pere Legume (the table is the table), Saturday, 9 January 2021 23:37 (three months ago) link

I feel the same way about guns as I do about nukes - I'd rather no one have any but if they must exist I don't only want (cops/the USA) to have 'em. but I don't have any dependents and don't care THAT much if I live or die so I'll probably never buy one.

― stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, January 9, 2021 4:05 PM (four hours ago)

lmao hell yeah we are gonna equality our way outta this pickle

k3vin k., Sunday, 10 January 2021 02:38 (three months ago) link

xp man alive -- I would take the class(es) and then make up your mind whether you indeed want to be a gun owner. Seriously.

― sarahell, Saturday, January 9, 2021 2:51 PM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

In seriousness, this is more likely the path I would take, if I start down that road at all. Obivously seeing people storm the capitol in 6MWE and "Camp Auschwitz" tees is a bit shaking, and my post was a reaction to that.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 January 2021 02:42 (three months ago) link

Man alive, does your webmail work?

― Pere Legume (the table is the table), Saturday, January 9, 2021 6:37 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh shit, I haven't checked it in like a year, have to see if I remember the pw

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 January 2021 02:42 (three months ago) link

answer: yes, it works

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 10 January 2021 02:45 (three months ago) link

three weeks pass...

pertinent
https://thenib.com/mlk-vs-rfw/

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 6 February 2021 17:29 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

20 minutes later: conservative gun owners kick out new addition to club liberals

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:27 (one month ago) link

a sign with weapons spelling out “Love.”

Could have at least gone for Live Laugh Love, maybe with a different kind of gun for each word.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Thursday, 11 March 2021 20:37 (one month ago) link

you'll have my love when you pry it from my cold dead hands

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 11 March 2021 21:01 (one month ago) link

If you can't beat 'em, shoot 'em.

pplains, Thursday, 11 March 2021 21:10 (one month ago) link

lol

k3vin k., Friday, 12 March 2021 03:00 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

I am hopeful that this current surge in gun ownership will defy all prior experience and actually lead to a reduction in gun deaths

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 April 2021 17:04 (two weeks ago) link

surely this etc

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 18:46 (two weeks ago) link

has there ever been a thread to share your experiences of having guns pulled on you? i'm always surprised how many ppl have a experience with this

Heez, Friday, 9 April 2021 16:38 (one week ago) link

I had a guy flash a chrome semi-auto at me in traffic once, the woman in the car with him proceeded to hit him with her purse (for being a dumbass, presumably).

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 9 April 2021 16:56 (one week ago) link

damn, hope that Biden zinger was worth it

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 April 2021 16:58 (one week ago) link

saw a dude in front of me in line at Burger King adjust his sweatpants and he had pistol jammed in the back of his waistband. my main thought was how the hell does he keep it from falling into his pants?

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Friday, 9 April 2021 16:58 (one week ago) link

the power of the purse trumps most things xxp

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 9 April 2021 16:58 (one week ago) link

Not pulled on me, but on two different occasions I've been sitting on the CTA train and had a guy walk slowly up and down the train car, pulling up his t-shirt to reveal the handle of a gun in his waistband, clearly trying to make sure everyone saw it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 April 2021 17:17 (one week ago) link

the second time I did acid it was with a roommate and his buddy and they argued ALL THE TIME. The friend had a handgun he kept taking out and fondling and I was like “I’m out of here”

brimstead, Friday, 9 April 2021 18:43 (one week ago) link

That sounds terrifying.

guillotines aren't just for royalty anymore (PBKR), Friday, 9 April 2021 19:13 (one week ago) link

I should clarify that by ALL THE TIME I just meant whenever they were together, I dipped out of that situation soon after I started coming up and called some friends who were more than delighted to hang around me while I was tripping lol

brimstead, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:20 (one week ago) link

I jumped into a fight one time in high school (i was a dumbass) and some dude on the sidelines pulled one and everyone scrambled

Heez, Friday, 9 April 2021 20:03 (one week ago) link

I haven't bought a gun FYI. Moving out here has been very good for my blood pressure, as has the change in administration.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 9 April 2021 21:40 (one week ago) link


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