Deep Space Nine: a thread for (re)watching this awesome series

it most definitely is how he plays the character

yup 100%

While the subtext of the relationship between Odo and Quark is that they are a cranky lesbian couple who own a jam and jelly emporium and who entertain their customers with some completely transparent pantomime that's meant to suggest they don't intensely love one another.

I got my DS9 doc! Won't really have time to watch till the weekend but stoked all the same.

I think I'm gonna wait until I can stream it. Looking forward to it though!

just watched the iggy pop episode! solid entry in the vortas being weirdos canon

*shouting down the hallway*

"We're gonna need another Weyoun!"

I think I'm gonna wait until I can stream it. Looking forward to it though!

Bluray has additional footage though!

The Blu-ray version will include 47 minutes of bonus footage, that wasn’t shown during its original theatrical release in May.

I don't know if I have a BluRay player of any kind. I think my XBox One had one but I sold it. T0rr3nt? ;)

I watched most of the doc yesterday (I have about 30 minutes left), and it made me want to watch the entire series again. So good thus far.

- If you were ever curious if Rom could make it as a lounge singer, you're in luck.
- I was disappointed to see that Rick Berman was included.
- Both Daxes in the same room at the same time!
- The remastered space battle looks amazing.
- Colm is pronounced "Collum"!
- Marc Alaimo is a weird, insecure guy. His voice is all messed up now, too.
- The hypothetical season 8 premiere -- loving it so far.

- "Silent Bob"

marc alaimo was a weak link as an actor, so . . . otm

he was great! hammin it up with the best

Yeah gul dukat owns.

I'm really into ds9 rn. On season 5, the cardassians have joined the dominion, eek!

I have way too much stuff to watch, but if I dip into this show, is s1e1 the best place, or in media res somewhere else?

Things don’t really pick up until S2, but it’s somewhat serialized so I’m not sure you’d want to skip S1. I used this guide when I rewatched it, which skips a bunch of fluffy episodes. It leaves in all the Ferenghi stuff (space Jews!), which can get a bit tiring, but the guy makes a good case for watching them: https://medium.com/maxistentialism-blog/star-trek-deep-space-nine-in-82-5-hours-10acde591fd2#.nfj6q7sqb

Yeah you need S1 to set up the world and the characters - first two episodes especially. If I were to watch it all again (hint: I never will) I would skip all the Ferenghi episodes, as well as all holosuite and all mirror universe ones.

I like the concept of Space Jews, as that role seemed to belong (somewhat) to the Vulcans in TOS and even the first Abrams movie.

Even if that means skipping Vorta Iggy Pop?

If you’re not keen on seeing militarized Federation war serial, I’d recommend something close to the opposite — a handful of the novelty episodes that they sprinkled in for leavening. The tribble one for example
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tXar2DiP_w4/UZ0gs7PAhUI/AAAAAAAABJM/qISF7kIu1VU/s1600/tribble.jpg

Looking through the first season episodes, the ones that jump out at me as the most skippable: 'Move Along Home', 'The Storyteller', 'If Wishes Were Horses'. Depending on your feelings re: Q and Lwaxana Troi, you could probably skip their episodes. The Ferengi-centric episodes aren't my favorite but I like the core DS9 Ferengi trio enough that I push through (although the one (or the first one, as I understand there's at least one more) with Quark and Rom's mother was...trying).

the mirror universe ones are Good (even if the ease of getting back and forth is extra silly)

that quote from Behr about Picard's greatest fear in the Medium piece DJI linked is great
and of course Roddenberry killed it and liked the whole Risa pleasure planet junk

I don't think there's a ton of agreement on what the outright bad episodes are - I love the Mirror Universe eps for instance - plus a lot of the politics are drawn super slowly in the first two seasons. Just suck it up and digest it all, buddy!

xp too lazy to find it, can you quote it mh

Can do, sorry for the length

I created this planet called Risa, which was a pleasure planet. The captain was stressed out and needed a vacation. He went on this vacation and there was a holosuite there — or a holodeck — I guess a holosuite, we called it.

It said, “Face Your Greatest Fear!” and it was like a carnival place. And he thought, “Oh, cool, this is going to put me in a good mood. What I need is to fight some Klingons without thinking about the repercussions of it, or go after some Romulans or whatever it is.

And he goes into this holodeck, and it was all about the captain being promoted to admiral, and losing the Enterprise, and Riker being bumped up to captain of the Enterprise. Basically, though we never really hit it on the head, it’s about growing old. Not to grow old, but your time of life changing and suddenly you’re not going to be the guy going off on adventures, you’re going to be sitting at a desk somewhere, SENDING people on adventures. That’s his greatest fear.

Then it became a whole long story that I’m not going to get into now, but it got SLAMMED dead by Gene (Roddenberry); it was my big ‘Gene meeting’, where he slammed me down with all kind of pronouncements about what Star Trek is and is not. It was like, “Picard fears nothing. If it’s time for him to grow old, to become an admiral, he becomes an admiral! He would not think about that, AT ALL. Picard is John Wayne!” Well, John Wayne had all kinds of fears and guilt and angers and bitterness in his best movies… “No. John Wayne is a hero, Picard is a hero, we are not doing this episode.” Even though I guess this had happened a lot on the show in the first couple seasons, it hadn’t hit us.

And that’s when Gene sat there, “…but I love the pleasure planet! Get the captain laid!”

https://medium.com/maxistentialism-blog/star-trek-deep-space-nine-in-82-5-hours-10acde591fd2#.nfj6q7sqb

Done a LOL @ that.

hahaha omg

We all know that Picard's unyielding lack of complexity is at the core of his enduring popularity.

I'm surprised Roddenberry didn't insist he have a heroic catchphrase. 'Jean-Luc out, here comes Picard!'

Um. Engage?

Not heroic enough imo. Maybe like 'engage that shit' while he slides on some shades to the accompaniment of chugging guitars.

I think i've mentioned the time i was on the men's room line at the theatre w/ Patrick Stewart, but didn't end up at the next urinal, where i wd've intoned "Make it so, Number One."

tbh I can't imagine that you would like DS9 at all Morbz

Yeah, if you're primarily a fan of TOS, it bears little resemblance. Very good but quite different.

does anyone want to explain to me what is going on with the Tribbles ep img with O'Brien inserted into it upthread

i don't require it to be a clone of the first series

fwiw I couldn't make it past the first episode, and you know how low my standards are

The first episode of a television series is usually its best, so that's a pretty fair assessment.

idk if you really want to have this argument but I was not given the impression that the things that were the most objectionable about it (like, say, the lead's line readings) were remedied later on

Does the Medium piece talk about how Roddenberry also wanted half-naked guys in the background holding hands?

I actually like "Move Along Home"! I think that someone who gets with TOS would appreciate its silly camp.

like, there was just nothing there that grabbed me, nothing that seemed like an interesting idea/no character that might develop into something interesting, and plenty of things I found actively irritating (Sisko, Ferengi etc.)

xps

You'll be missing out on Wallace Shawn and Space Nurse Ratched
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Like while on the one hand I can accept that your objections were enough to keep you from pursuing the series further, on the other hand recommending against watching a well-regarded television series on the basis of the one (1) episode you couldn't even make it all the way through is...what's the word? Oh, yes: challops.

As Philip notes, if you haven't even gotten around to seeing Vedek Winn and Garak and the evolution of Nog etc. etc. you might as well be saying 'don't watch this show why because I saw a commercial and it looked unintersting'.

well-regarded television series

eh depends who you ask

not sure what you think Morbz would like about this series tbh

Did you read the post right after you wrote to Morbs where I agreed with you (not realizing you hadn't actually seen the show)

fair enough

anyway i'm a fan of Rene Auberjonois and Colm Meaney in other things

also there is a baseball episode

love me some Alex Siddig, that guy has been a valuable supporting actor in a lot of things over the years. he was the best thing about the worst part of Game of Thrones too (Dorne), which was an utter waste of his skill level and charisma.