Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to

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Fuck this guy and everything he stands for. Fuck him for making me feel uncomfortable in every community. Fuck him for everyone who is going to die and be lost in the inevitable backwash.

Let us keep track of the low points and the victories; let's find some small support from our own community and for god's sake let's be kind. I grew up in the Reagan '80's. I imagine this is gonna be worse. Let us be kind but let us be vigilant. Let us stand up and work harder.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:01 (three years ago) link

i'm feeling pumped up to fight back today.

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:04 (three years ago) link

it's a wonder what sleep can do

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:05 (three years ago) link

at least for this gay man of color

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:05 (three years ago) link

thx for kicking off.

every day feels so weirdly dissociative right now.

i hope in orbit will hang out in this thread because i feel like she's already got the hang of some things I'm gonna need to learn in re doing things that matter in BK.

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:06 (three years ago) link

Campus police at San Diego State University are looking for two suspects who allegedly made comments about President-elect Donald Trump and Muslims before stealing a student's belongings and possibly her car.

In a safety alert sent to students and staff, police said they're investigating the incident as a hate crime. In a statement, President Elliot Hirshman disclosed the woman is, in fact, Muslim and was wearing a hijab.

Police say the student was walking to her car in parking structure 12 around 2:30 p.m. when two males made what police believe was an anti-Muslim comment and grabbed her purse and backpack. "They removed her car keys before fleeing the area," the report says. "The victim left the area to contact to police. When police arrived on scene, her vehicle was missing. She was uninjured."

Hirshman said the university is "pursuing all possible measures to apprehend the suspects." One is described as a 5-foot-9-inch white male with blond or brown hair and light eyes wearing a white t-shirt and jeans. The second is described as a 6-foot-2-inch Hispanic male with dark hair wearing a gray hoodie and dark pants.

"We condemn this hateful act and urge all members of our community to join us in condemning such hateful acts," Hirshman said in a statement. "Hate crimes are destructive to the spirit of our campus and we urge all members of our community to stand together in rejecting hate."

mizzell, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:07 (three years ago) link

honestly the first crushing low to navigate will also be one of the most florid -- his assemblage of what will surely be one of the most grotesque cabainets since the Mutter Museum

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:08 (three years ago) link

xpost jfc!

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:08 (three years ago) link

small things i did:
-donated to ACLU
-joined Democratic Socialists of America
-made it through desperately sad third day at new job at an org that will be targeted hardcore
-got a good night's sleep

we can do this

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:11 (three years ago) link

Some good stuff in this series of tweets - white Midwesterners need to understand the "coastal elites" just as much as vice versa.
https://twitter.com/pwthornton/status/796355506759671808

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:12 (three years ago) link

I gave to a bunch of minority protection and legal defense charities yesterday, set up a monthly donation to Planned Parenthood and contacted them about becoming a volunteer.

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:13 (three years ago) link

i'm feeling pumped up to fight back today.

― global tetrahedron, Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:04 AM

OTM!!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:15 (three years ago) link

connecting with people is good. laying off the internet/twitter/facebook

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:15 (three years ago) link

one thing I want to do to augment my cognitive equipment for what's coming is read something good and unflinching about Berlusconism in Italy. Can anyone recommend any book on that subject

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:16 (three years ago) link

I plan to rely on this thread for news for the forseeable future. Trying to make a clean break with Twitter and cable news for as long as humanly possible. My wife put on Maddow last night but at least she was covering the protests. I'm 100% done with all this "What are the optics?" type bullshit though.

evol j, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:16 (three years ago) link

I plan to rely on this thread for news for the forseeable future. Trying to make a clean break with Twitter and cable news for as long as humanly possible. My wife put on Maddow last night but at least she was covering the protests. I'm 100% done with all this "What are the optics?" type bullshit though.

― evol j, Thursday, November 10, 2016 10:16 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:18 (three years ago) link

I had this setup to do before the election but it's particularly intense now: i'm serving lunch to holocaust survivors at 1 today. I will also be trying to have some real conversations and asking for wisdom. will report back.

the notes the loon doesn't play (ulysses), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:19 (three years ago) link

Called up my Trump supporting friend last night and tried to heal the divide between us. Going forward with love in the heart. Best wishes to you all.

Ross, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:21 (three years ago) link

that kind of humanity is the spirit we need xp

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:24 (three years ago) link

Collapse the current seven tax brackets, which range from 10 to 39.6 percent, into three brackets of 10, 20, and 25percent.

Three fucking brackets? Are you KIDDING ME?

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:24 (three years ago) link

it's a wonder what sleep can do

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:05 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

at least for this gay man of color

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, November 10, 2016 11:05 AM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea i feel better today too. yesterday was .... awful. desperate. i still feel so angry and defeated about this though.

marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:25 (three years ago) link

btw:

Russian government officials had contacts with members of Donald Trump’s campaign team, a senior Russian diplomat said Thursday, in a disclosure that could reopen scrutiny over the Kremlin’s role in the president-elect’s bitter race against Hillary Clinton....

[snip]

.“Obviously, we know most of the people from his entourage,” Rybakov said. “Those people have always been in the limelight in the United States and have occupied high-ranking positions. I cannot say that all of them but quite a few have been staying in touch with Russian representatives.”

“We have just begun to consider ways of building dialogue with the future Donald Trump administration and channels we will be using for those purposes,” Ryabkov was quoted as saying.

There were no further details given on the claimed contacts, including names in the Trump campaign or other specifics.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:32 (three years ago) link

Serious q: what's the worst thing that could happen with detente with Russia? In a realpolitik way not moral way.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:36 (three years ago) link

Ask some Latvians et al.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:39 (three years ago) link

Realignment toward Russia is the least disconcerting thing to me. Putin is no worse than plenty of foreign leaders we make nice with.

the last famous person you were surprised to discover was actually (man alive), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:40 (three years ago) link

Our student media editor in chief wrote this. I don't often post their work but I got a lump in my throat.I watched Clinton's concession speech w/her, a black female student. She was crying. When I asked what was wrong she said, "Do you know what it's like to be a woman and not being able to show emotion, to not cry because if you do you'll get dismissed with, 'Well, you're a woman'?"

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:41 (three years ago) link

so is it true that the Dow is actually up today?

really feeling thankful for these threads b/c I just cannot handle TV in any way right now

sleeve, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:41 (three years ago) link

Letting Russia do whatever they want in Syria, and some of Europe?

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:44 (three years ago) link

one thing I want to do to augment my cognitive equipment for what's coming is read something good and unflinching about Berlusconism in Italy. Can anyone recommend any book on that subject

― his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon)

Haven't read it yet myself, but reviews have led me to Paul Ginsborg's Silvio Berlusconi: Television, Power and Patrimony (2004). Looks promising, and I'll be picking it up at the library today.

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:52 (three years ago) link

thank you!

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 10 November 2016 16:53 (three years ago) link

A good corrective here to some of the postelection handwringing.

https://twitter.com/pwthornton/status/796356934643437569

Mike Pence shakes his head and mouths the word ‘no’ (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:02 (three years ago) link

I just posted it on a bud's wall.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:05 (three years ago) link

I posted that on the other thread too, I think. I definitely read and retweeted, since it's so similar to my own experience as a rural Ohioan. (I went to a 100% white high school, after spending my entire life prior to 6th grade in integrated schools as an Army brat, so it was quite shocking to me.)

and this section is called boner (Phil D.), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:07 (three years ago) link

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/texas-state-university-police-looking-into-trump-vigilante-fliers/jhWSmmhNxxuTXZaQJiYhNI/

"Now that our man Trump is elected and Republicans own both the Senate and the House -- time to organize tar & feather vigilante squads and go arrest and torture those deviant university leaders spouting off all this diversity garbage," at least one of the fliers reads, according to a photo that the university community is sharing.

a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:12 (three years ago) link

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Evan, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:14 (three years ago) link

My sister moved from Chicago area to rural Wisoconsin. Hanging in Lake Wisco one day, a local says to me "Isn't this just gorgeous? This is the most beautiful place in the country!". Mainly to make conversation, I asked where else she'd been, what other parts of the country had she seen. "Oh I haven't really left the state much. Been to Florida a couple of times". She was in her 50s! Same story with most of the other locals I met or heard about: basically had only been to Florida or the "WHOOO PARTY!!" parts of Mexico (both are locales where they are assured to be around a ton of other tourists very similar to themselves!)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:16 (three years ago) link

I'm here, lurking! And just trying to live. My job takes an enormous emotional toll (and has some nontraditional/extra hours) so I can't do as much community work as I would like to, or activism or campaigning either b/c I can't risk arrest anymore. But I will be thrilled to talk about anything you want!

If authoritarianism is Romania's ironing board, then (in orbit), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:28 (three years ago) link

i grew up only an hour outside of chicago (mchenry co) and tbh never really interacted with anyone who wasn't white. it's a pretty red county, or it was. not sure about now. but racism as a "thing" was there. my best friend in kindergarten tried and failed to start a local chapter of the KKK (he managed to get two other members.) after i left that school and ended up in rockford, it was a whole new world. and i mean that's just 30 miles down a country road. but there are people even just outside major cities, or diverse cities, who since they don't interact on a day to day basis with people unlike them, only view them through the lens of the media. and as the media has become more specifically targeted and as you can pick and choose very specific viewpoints about groups of people you've never met, you're going to get an even more poisoned mind than you would have a couple decades ago.

nomar, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:36 (three years ago) link

I just posted this to the last, miserable election thread, but I probably should have posted it here:

Okay yeah, so, it's important to recognize that it is not unprecedented to have Republicans in both houses, with a dipshit Republican president rubber-stamping things, and the Bush era WAS awful and 2004 WAS until yesterday the worst post-election morning of my lifetime. The big difference to me is the emergence of the Tea Party/Freedom Caucus types during the Obama administration. All their feuding with Boehner/Ryan goes away without a Democratic president they're trying to strategize around, and you're left with a huge swath of dipshit Republicans for roll-call votes, and leadership cadres that are now MUCH further right than they were in the Clinton and W eras. It's going to be rubber-stamping of absolutely demonic shit, the kind of draconian nightmare Republican government we've all been fearing for a long time unless some of them break ranks (doubtful) or that trying to gut Social Security along with the rest of the federal government just takes so long that a really well-organized opposition can make gains back in the midterms (yeah right).

And in the meantime, Trump is following Reagan in appointing to his cabinet and all the executive agencies people who are either his corrupt and incompetent old real estate crony friends, or right-wing true believers who are also sycophants good at making him feel smart, and whose main goal in running these agencies is to make them nonfunctional. That's terrifying whether it's an Anne Gorsuch type at the EPA in the face of climate-change disaster, or fucking Rudy Giuliani controlling the Justice Department and rolling back even the baby steps towards investigating police departments and trying to prosecute brutality cases. And a million other things.

dustalo springsteen (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:36 (three years ago) link

i like to think that during the years i was surrounded only by white people that i wasn't particularly awful and i don't think i was, but i was certainly still ignorant. it's a good thing i always liked exploring music and film from other cultures, because i think that really helped. no joke, it was important to not just listen to public enemy or blues music or cypress hill or whatever but to also try to get into the mindset of other cultures, it's a good education for those who live in places where you're not exposed to non-white people except through mainstream media or targeted news channels.

nomar, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:39 (three years ago) link

It took people knocking me over the head over and over, figuratively, to get me to reconsider the acculturated racism I had. It took work, but I appreciate it now, I was a real dumbass when I was younger.

larry appleton, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:43 (three years ago) link

Just watched the Houston episode of Bourdain's show on the bus to work, tearing up and sniffling. Gave me hope, though. Seek it out.

schwantz, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:45 (three years ago) link

https://twitter.com/joshledermanAP/status/796769992603815936

WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama says he was 'encouraged' by conversation with Trump, calls Oval Office meeting 'excellent' and wide-ranging

Mordy, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:53 (three years ago) link

I can't fit into my head the thought of Obama meeting with (President-Elect!) Donald J. Trump

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:55 (three years ago) link

good post from a Veteran in my timeline:

Hey, Army (and military in general). What was the point of those incessant power points we had to go over four times a year. Something about not sexually harassing/assaulting people and something about racial discrimination being unacceptable, right? Enjoy your new commander-in-chief. Do as daddy says not as daddy do. #grabbedamericabythepussy

frogbs, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:55 (three years ago) link

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Obama says he was 'encouraged' by conversation with Trump, calls Oval Office meeting 'excellent' and wide-ranging"

wtf's he going to say, honestly

hopefully he goes back into hsi office and recess appoints Garland.

akm, Thursday, 10 November 2016 17:59 (three years ago) link

recess appoints Garland.

he'd spark white riots, which we can't call riots, but you get the idea

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:02 (three years ago) link

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this blows huh

marcos, Thursday, 10 November 2016 18:07 (three years ago) link

(when i say "blame america" i mean holistically, as a giant failing system, recognizing the dem party and bipartisan administrative/media class' contribution to this thru hubris and political decay and yes corruption, in addition to midwestern voters' thru succumbing to hate and the dang millennials thru not showing up and the gop thru being a nihilist death cult for 50odd years)

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 31 December 2016 10:42 (three years ago) link

I'm sorry but your fugue appears to be full of straw men

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Saturday, 31 December 2016 13:27 (three years ago) link

i find it more than plausible that russian intelligence was behind the DNC/podesta leaks -- i've seen and will see no actual evidence but this is a mundane enough proposition for me to believe even from the dreaded cia, the motive is there on the surface, it didn't exactly take a neuromancer to accomplish (they won't believe "i meant to type illegitimate" when they read about it in the future, when they can read again; i don't even believe it now), etc

as far as i can tell that's all that's officially been alleged? yet there are these whispers everywhere, i can hear them even all the way out here, that something much more serious has happened, as the statistic SV quotes from taibbi makes clear -- there is not only no evidence for this but no real accusation at all right? yet everyone is talking about it -- friends both flesh and not tell me they're sure Something will Happen, that obama has put Things In Motion, behind the Scenes --

yeah i have to say i'm a bit confused about all this too -- maybe i've missed some reporting over the holidays when i haven't been paying as much attention but to my knowledge this was the extent of the accusations as well -- that they were behind the wikileaks stuff and the intention was to hurt HRC and help trump. and sure, if true that would be very bad, but that's not....hacking the election. people seem to be making all sorts of inferences that are not only not supported by evidence but not even supported by any reporting i've seen

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:13 (three years ago) link

Did any of you see the report that Russia for some reason hacked into Vermont's energy grid? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-penetrated-us-electricity-grid-through-a-utility-in-vermont/2016/12/30/8fc90cc4-ceec-11e6-b8a2-8c2a61b0436f_story.html

What's up with that?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:18 (three years ago) link

wow leave vermont alone

k3vin k., Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:24 (three years ago) link

dlh, the conclusion that many have come to is that it wasn't so much Russian hacking that got Trump elected as much as it was the presence of an extreme, tribal divisiveness in this country that has turned many people into credulous drones who happily slurp up whatever garbage they read or hear that buttresses their pre-existing worldview. I mean, da doy, but at least people are more seem to be appraising the situation more seriously now (even if it's maybe too little too late).

what is the lever disease? (Old Lunch), Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:27 (three years ago) link

are more

what is the lever disease? (Old Lunch), Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:28 (three years ago) link

The broader conclusion being that garbage news and propaganda/innuendo doesn't have to change the mind of millions, just a hundred thousand or so, to affect the outcome of our particular political system.

Anyway, this story is far from transparent. There could very well be more that Russia did than just propagate the wikileaks stuff, just like there could be more the US is doing in retaliation, or just like Russia could very well be retaliating despite claims to the contrary, plus ongoing cyber and counter cyber stuff, all stuff we may never know. The Vermont thing I found interesting, because it intimates Russian cyber interference has been going much deeper than just leaking emails. I wonder what else they've been up to.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:46 (three years ago) link

they want to shut down kombucha production in the united states

tried Blue Apron and we died (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 31 December 2016 14:54 (three years ago) link

The reporting in the Vermont thing hasn't been good (the original story was the grid had been hacked, which Burlington has denied) but it would be interesting to know what 'malware associated with Russia' means in practice. At least some of the tools supposedly used by 'Fancy Bear' are more or less in the public domain now afaict.

Bubba H.O.T.A.P.E (ShariVari), Saturday, 31 December 2016 15:05 (three years ago) link

Happy New Year to all, including to my many enemies and those who have fought me and lost so badly they just don't know what to do. Love!

Love! Trumps Sad!

frogbs, Saturday, 31 December 2016 15:26 (three years ago) link

yeah "malware associated with Russia" is, like, most malware

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Saturday, 31 December 2016 15:59 (three years ago) link

Dlh makes good points. The focus on Russia is definitely being used as a way for Democrats to cope with their loss without having to grapple both with why their message failed and what it means about the health of the Republican that someone was able to bullshit his way to the presidency while behaving in a crude, thuggish manner. It's a way to depict Trump as a foreign invader rather than just a particularly toxic example of how our politics has worked forever. (Never forget: Rove convinced the nation that John Kerry willingly put troops in his battalion in danger in order to win a medal.)

So Russia as a meme is definitely a way of evading this stuff and Democrats are using it to champion a memory of a grand Republic that has been betrayed, a country that doesn't exist. But at the same time Trump's connections to the Kremlin seem obvious and bizarre. Whether it is that he has business ties there, or they are blackmailing him, or he wants to team up with Putin in order to form a grand alliance to mount a global conflict with Islam, idk, but I want answers on this.

Treeship, Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:23 (three years ago) link

*health of the Republic

Treeship, Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:24 (three years ago) link

I feel like I live on a different planet than you people

The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:27 (three years ago) link

yeah "malware associated with Russia" is, like, most malware

also "malware found on a laptop that wasn't connected to the utility grid" is pretty far from "hacking"

sleeve, Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:29 (three years ago) link

no u wrong they hacked using 2 coordinated accounts pu✧✧✧@rus✧✧✧.c✧✧ and russiahacksthe✧✧✧@rus✧✧✧.r✧

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:42 (three years ago) link

anyone want to sum that article up? obviously i love great journalism but im not paying to read about some idiot giving his login password to a hacker pretending to be Comcast

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:43 (three years ago) link

I can cut back and paste.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:56 (three years ago) link

nvmd, so yeah the laptop was not even connected. fake news

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 31 December 2016 16:57 (three years ago) link

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — President-elect Donald J. Trump, expressing lingering skepticism about intelligence assessments of Russian interference in the election, said on Saturday evening that he knew “things that other people don’t know” about the hacking, and that the information would be revealed “on Tuesday or Wednesday.”

Speaking to a handful of reporters outside his Palm Beach, Fla., club, Mar-a-Lago, Mr. Trump cast his declarations of doubt as an effort to seek the truth.

“I just want them to be sure because it’s a pretty serious charge,” Mr. Trump said of the intelligence agencies. “If you look at the weapons of mass destruction, that was a disaster, and they were wrong,” he added, referring to intelligence cited by the George W. Bush administration to support its march to war in 2003. “So I want them to be sure,” the president-elect said. “I think it’s unfair if they don’t know.”

He added: “And I know a lot about hacking. And hacking is a very hard thing to prove. So it could be somebody else. And I also know things that other people don’t know, and so they cannot be sure of the situation.”

When asked what he knew that others did not, Mr. Trump demurred, saying only, “You’ll find out on Tuesday or Wednesday.”

Mr. Trump, who does not use email, also advised people to avoid computers when dealing with delicate material. “It’s very important, if you have something really important, write it out and have it delivered by courier, the old-fashioned way, because I’ll tell you what, no computer is safe,” Mr. Trump said.

“I don’t care what they say, no computer is safe,” he added. “I have a boy who’s 10 years old; he can do anything with a computer. You want something to really go without detection, write it out and have it sent by courier.”

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 1 January 2017 20:23 (three years ago) link

I also know things that other people don’t know

Classic. No one can see inside this black box, so no one can contradict any assertions made about it.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 1 January 2017 20:30 (three years ago) link

It's like a variation on his favorite phrase: believe me!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Sunday, 1 January 2017 20:31 (three years ago) link

https://twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/815597707733716993

it's amazing we're going through this again. waterboarding/"torture" all over again. like they never learn

k3vin k., Sunday, 1 January 2017 20:32 (three years ago) link

that's what you get for dying and going to hell, which appears to be what happened to all of us.

Treeship, Sunday, 1 January 2017 20:52 (three years ago) link

He's seizing power in just under three weeks - let the fellatio begin!

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 1 January 2017 21:39 (three years ago) link

Speaking of fellatio, Josh Marshall accidentally copied the URL of the lesbian porn he was watching instead of something else he meant to Tweet.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 1 January 2017 23:51 (three years ago) link

hahaha sorry I love when that happens

a but (brimstead), Monday, 2 January 2017 00:07 (three years ago) link

He didn't delete it for a long time, either!

his eye is on despair-o (Jon not Jon), Monday, 2 January 2017 01:01 (three years ago) link

He hasn't deleted it.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 January 2017 01:02 (three years ago) link

He did post this tho

https://www.twitter.com/joshtpm/status/815295971915694080

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 2 January 2017 01:02 (three years ago) link

from the replies to that:

Eric Garland ‏@ericgarland 31 Dec 2016
@joshtpm Been reading you for 16 years since you were writing two blocks from my place on Q St, and looking forward to 16 more.

Ian Miller ‏@teen_archer 31 Dec 2016
@ericgarland @joshtpm it's time for some "i came" theory

soref, Monday, 2 January 2017 01:05 (three years ago) link

hahaha

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 2 January 2017 01:34 (three years ago) link

Well, the super-rich think these recessions are pretty great. After all, they get to pick up a lot of cheap deals during the crash and come out smelling like a rose when, in order to "stimulate the economy and promote job growth" the Republicans will cut their taxes even more, while slashing safety net programs, and the Fed keeps interest rates at zero. Hand them another Great Recession and life's a bowl of cherries!

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 2 January 2017 19:58 (three years ago) link

less "a great recession" and more "direct corporate rule", maintaining general prosperity is for regimes that think there should be restraints on the cops

difficult listening hour, Monday, 2 January 2017 20:07 (three years ago) link

amazing to be capable of surprise abt how cynical ppl can be right now but the ethics office bill is just luminously craven

schlump, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 11:51 (three years ago) link

it's stunning, yes

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 16:35 (three years ago) link

OCE gutting proposal withdrawn following public outcry

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:17 (three years ago) link

surprised tbh

marcos, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:18 (three years ago) link

it's important to remember that many of the things this congress is pursuing are deeply unpopular. Making sure that the public understands exactly what they are attempting to do may work as a powerful deterrent.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:21 (three years ago) link

one hopes

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:25 (three years ago) link

OCE gutting proposal withdrawn following public outcry

Will be re-submitted, and pass overwhelmingly, over inauguration weekend, while press is busy talking about who did and didn't attend parties.

Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:38 (three years ago) link

out of all the things to kick off the new session with

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:40 (three years ago) link

yeah people are seriously dense if they think this is going away...

but speaking of seriously dense how fucking dumb do you have to be to do this in the middle of the night when they should just do what the honorable mr van gorp is suggesting upthread.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:46 (three years ago) link

also important to remember that trump is unbelievably unpopular for an incoming president

http://www.gallup.com/poll/201158/skeptical-trump-handle-presidential-duties.aspx

would love to see this repeated in every single article about him

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:47 (three years ago) link

wow, 20-30 points behind Obama & GWB in every category, impressive.

great Canadian prog-psych debut from 1969 (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:52 (three years ago) link

too bad all the people who aren't skeptical are the ones whose votes matter

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 January 2017 17:53 (three years ago) link

thread is almost at 7800 posts, we could use a fresh start.
America under Trump - Year One: January 2017 to

A big shout out goes to the lamb chops, thos lamb chops (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 January 2017 18:07 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

taylor swift look like a lorax

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