But Will There Be Corgis? Thread Where We Discuss Netflix's THE CROWN

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Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 20:34 (four years ago) link

I blew through 3 episodes last night and I'm really enjoying it.

I love how the drama is provided by what's happening, they're not being heavyhanded and adding any excess unnecessary melodrama. I was a bit leery that they might Downton it up too much but it's very restrained.

I've heard they're planning to do SIX seasons, to cover the whole reign. Which...holy shit I'm in if it's going to be like this.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 20:39 (four years ago) link

They do a very good job of underlining how the role of king/queen weighs very heavily on the person and the family -- like 'ugh my life would have been so much better if this had not happened to me' --- the duty is underscored very intentionally, and they do a good job of showing how disruptive it is to 'normal' life' (normal being landed aristocracy of course so, yknow, lol) (but still)

Jared Harrris' King George was so good

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 20:43 (four years ago) link

still finishing episode 2. will be really thankful when the coughing stops. the king is dead. long live the cough.

scott seward, Saturday, 5 November 2016 20:59 (four years ago) link

when he isn't coughing i love his voice though.

scott seward, Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:00 (four years ago) link

which makes sense cuz he comes from royal voice stock.

scott seward, Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:01 (four years ago) link

does this go into brenda's origins as a 12-ft baby-eating lizard-person or nah

yokohama fuckdolphin (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:09 (four years ago) link

xp
you wouldn't say that about his accent in The Expanse.

He is listed as being in 7 eps on imdb so I presume much flashbacking and maybe not so much coughing to come.

calzino, Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:18 (four years ago) link

lol whut xp

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:30 (four years ago) link

i was wiki-ing the various royal family members and i honestly had forgotten about fergie. i just hadn't thought of her in years. so much info on her house and her house next to her ex's house and that house burning and then her moving back in with her ex and her ex borrowing money from the convicted pedophile who is friends with donald trump and....i think i see why people like royal watching so much. it's endless.

scott seward, Saturday, 5 November 2016 21:35 (four years ago) link

lol :D

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 22:07 (four years ago) link

Casting of Matt Smith as Prince Philip is ludicrous, Phil was impossibly good looking - in an Aryan Master Race way - as a young man, Matt Smith not so much.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 November 2016 23:21 (four years ago) link

i wouldnt go that far, i think Smith embodies some of his inherent charm

http://media.vanityfair.com/photos/54ca8cbb494254fc09953fbb/master/pass/image.jpg

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 November 2016 23:32 (four years ago) link

https://lisawallerrogers.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/queen-elizabeth-and-prince-philip-engagement-july-9_1947.jpg

That's impossibly good looking? I'd have sAid Smith was about as gl if not better. A matter of taste I guess but they're about in the same league.

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Sunday, 6 November 2016 00:11 (four years ago) link

"even his testicles looked like red rosy apples"

calzino, Sunday, 6 November 2016 00:18 (four years ago) link

ep5 opener: Little Lizzy helping her Dad by pretending to be Archbishop for the coronation gave me all the feels damn this show to hell

<3

also I never knew about that great smog business. 12,000? blimey.

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 05:20 (four years ago) link

worst killer fog in history.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2016 05:27 (four years ago) link

i was definitely feeling the end of that second episode. DRAMA.

scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2016 05:28 (four years ago) link

that whole second episode was just really great t.v. kudos!

scott seward, Sunday, 6 November 2016 05:28 (four years ago) link

streaking ahead sorry but

Coronation: a+
They used Edward so cleverly in this episode in particular, drag him to his bitchy lowest in the earlier episodes to allow him a bittersweet moment in the sun, very nicely done

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 06:46 (four years ago) link

Never gave much thought to actual practicality of walking in the crown

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 06:47 (four years ago) link

bit of the og magic show

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 06:54 (four years ago) link

ugh
https://youtu.be/LEDp34MRI20

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 06:54 (four years ago) link

probably useless storming into a binge thread 11 hours late but we just watched the first episode and i'm super-impressed by john lithgow's spot-on churchill impression through ~actual acting~ and not just gimmickry. i can't imagine what it's like for a showrunner to take an established actor with an already phenomenal legacy and give them something entirely new that will propel their stature even further.

I've heard they're planning to do SIX seasons, to cover the whole reign. Which...holy shit I'm in if it's going to be like this.

― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 07:39 (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and with their intended focus on peripheral members of the monarchy it's easy to see how they'll fill it. the scope for quality drama is mind-blowing.

Autumn Almanac, Sunday, 6 November 2016 08:13 (four years ago) link

yeah definitely

I really enjoy lithgow as churchill too. I also enjoy them utilizing churchill in his second prime-ministership as much as they do; post-stroke churchill is not as often shown or used in drama & it is quite fascinating to see that "fading glory" portrayed by such a good actor

i didn't expect there to be as much use of peripheral characters - it definitely helps paint the picture more fully

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 15:31 (four years ago) link

claire foy looks so uncannily like a close friend of my mum's did when younger that i don't know how to end this post

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 15:55 (four years ago) link

i already said this on the wolf hall thread but :0

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 15:56 (four years ago) link

the queen in her old age reminds me of my grandma, and young Lizzy reminds me of my Mum
it's weird all round

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 19:55 (four years ago) link

capt peter townshend also reminds me of someone i know quite well

plus queen mary (of teck, george vi's mum, with the grey curls) uses the same asthma inhaler as i did as a kid! (tho she has a fancy mouthpiece also)

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:12 (four years ago) link

lol matt smith's face when the the plane lands after his flying lesson (which i just this second watched) is SOOOO DOCTOR WHOOO

so far i haven't mind him his as philip, but he should stay away from airmen's leather helmets

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:15 (four years ago) link

that first scene of his flying lesson with the deadstick landing is a good example of why I like this show.
In a Downton setting there would have been HIGH DRAMA and pleading for the engine to be turned back on and some kind of STAKES and a lot of music

But no

Two chill dudes just kill the engine, chat for a bit, and then deadstick land the plane in a field and it's cool af

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:23 (four years ago) link

yes -- except prince philip has turned into doctor who during the flight :)

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:27 (four years ago) link

this is paywalled only but well worth it on the fog: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n19/neal-ascherson/brown-goo-like-marmite

mark s, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:28 (four years ago) link

hmmm, there doesn't seem to be any "yas queen" memes featuring Claire Foy yet. Somebody's asleep at the wheel

Number None, Sunday, 6 November 2016 20:55 (four years ago) link

Blimey, some of the fog stuff is like Threads.

trishyb, Monday, 7 November 2016 15:55 (four years ago) link

Halfway through ep 9, one more to go

Every time Phillip disappoints Lizzy I think back to that promise he made to King George that he would stand by her & i get really mad. then I think how incredibly strong she must have been to weather so much without the steadfast support she should have had from him & it makes her a little bit more impressive in my eyes

Envying the Queen Mum's Scottish castle

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 18:53 (four years ago) link

Still, up against the wall with the lot of them, Bolsheviks had the right idea etc.

The Doug Walters of Crime (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 18:55 (four years ago) link

yeah I'm not going to go subscribing to Women's Weekly anytime soon

it just gives me an appreciation for the weird difficulties of a job that basically asks you to do nothing

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 19:16 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I do feel for Phil. He has no job and no real purpose. Maybe he thought he would be doing a lot of the work, or that she would at least share more with him, come to him for advice, that kind of thing? I suppose neither of them realised she'd be thrown into it so soon.

trishyb, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 19:55 (four years ago) link

Although I guess that's what all that horse-stud business is about: him having no real job any more, now that he's done his job by her.

trishyb, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 19:56 (four years ago) link

idk

they'd been prepping her for queen her whole life, idk what Phil thought would happen

i mean, i'm sympathetic to an extent- it's obv a very unforgiving job esp for surrounding family. but he just seems so stubbornly petulant & not very empathetic to the inherent loneliness she's dealing with

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:16 (four years ago) link

Jared Harris is so good. Bloody love him after this and Mad Men, and fuck it, I'll even take that accent in the Expanse too.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:43 (four years ago) link

yeah he is A+ perfect in this

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:55 (four years ago) link

i'd love a prequel season showing his wartime years, the family in london after the blitz, etc

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 20:56 (four years ago) link

It's all so delicately done, reminds me a bit of the early golden british drama era, the Brideshead Revisiteds, very far from the deluge of period fluff in the wake of Downton Abbey

abcfsk, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:00 (four years ago) link

otm

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 21:29 (four years ago) link

idk what Phil thought would happen

I think he thought that it would be more of a partnership, like Churchill and his wife. He obviously has plenty of good ideas - like televising the coronation.

trishyb, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 22:43 (four years ago) link

true

i just hate the petulant absenteeism & carousing

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 23:13 (four years ago) link

"i'd love a prequel season showing his wartime years, the family in london after the blitz, etc"

A bunch of priv Naziphiles waiting for their government to stop this nonsense and sue for peace might not cut it as a worldwide hit netflix series tbh. I wish next time Netflix have a spare 100m and loads of good actors, they will do a House of Plantagenet epic or something.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 November 2016 00:20 (four years ago) link

emma corrin's diana also incredible. very understated, really.

treeship., Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:15 (four days ago) link

I wonder if it helps that she wasn't around for this when it was happening.

Unfortunately people of my age remember it too well.

putting the "party" in "partisan" (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:17 (four days ago) link

I realize I've never heard Charles speak a single sentence, and I've grown up with him.

Is that accent real?

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:20 (four days ago) link

legit

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:25 (four days ago) link

Lol, also greatly enjoyed Bob Hawke and the mention of his status as a former Guinness Book of Records holder for skulling a yard of ale, which iirc he was doing in public up until his death?

He set the Guinness Record for a yard as a 26-year-old Rhodes scholar at Oxford in 1955, quit booze flat for his entire parliamentary career (1980-91, set a zero emissions by 1995 target before getting knifed out), and returned to it gradually afterward. He would publicly skull a glass deep into his eighties to entertain randos, but just with regular schooners (375ml), not the yard glass he'd made his name with (1400ml / 2.5 pints / 91oz?).

Here he is being handed a cup at the cricket and taking it to the dome in ten, aged 82 or so:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2skct9

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:25 (four days ago) link

anderson's thatcher is great. the harshness and fragility, the self-consciousness that hides behind self-righteousness, this is not just a performance of a human being but a whole economic and moral outlook. she's playing thatcherism.

― treeship.,

An excellent description of the scriptwriters and director's intentions.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:26 (four days ago) link

behold Prince Chuck in all of his warm-blancmange glory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg_fib2gQaU

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:28 (four days ago) link

the scriptwriters and director's intentions.

The scriptwriter has been dating Anderson since 2016, incidentally (he split from his princess wife unrelatedly in 2014).

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:32 (four days ago) link

so is the critique that the performance is heavy-handed?

treeship., Tuesday, 24 November 2020 02:34 (four days ago) link

Interestingly GA spent her much of her childhood in England and left around the same time Thatcher won her first general election. She didn’t come back to live until 2002. I don’t know what that has to do with anything, really.

Something that really struck me watching this season was how POC are represented. Beyond the Commonwealth Heads of Government, I don’t recall very many POC at all in the episodes set in England - the occasional soldier maybe. Nobody in the Fagan episode, or am I misremembering? Anyway, then when Diana visits New York and there’s a focus on HIV/AIDS and poverty there, the vast majority of extras and minor characters are black. It was really striking and seemed like a rather muddled point was being made, or that somebody decided to make England (as a country rather than the royal family’s obviously very white circle) a stark contrast on purpose to make a point. Or was it just out of ignorance of how multiethnic the UK, particularly its cities, were in the period this season is set? I dunno, I’m still trying to decide why the NYC episode jumped out at me for that reason. But it sits a bit uncomfortably with me.

Madchen, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 08:09 (four days ago) link

One problem GA faces is that the script demands that everything she says has to explain current events, history, Thatcher's character, background etc and how it influences her political philosophy. So whether it's an interview with the Queen or a chat with her daughter in the kitchen, she's given these paragraphs of text to get across as if she's delivering a lecture, so the audience understands. It's true of most characters tbh; the writers really believe in telling rather than showing.

mahb, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 08:24 (four days ago) link

Morgan gives one writer one co-write credit on one episode out of ten; I'm gonna assume that that is his style after all.

huge rant (sic), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 08:40 (four days ago) link

def not sure how i feel abt Gillian Anderson's portrayal of Maggie, i think is great but somehow does not fit but maybe id the point - was fascinating to watch tho - someone (here, elswhere?) said it made them think of a drag queen's version which yes, but, yeah i can't pin down how i feel abt it

did appreciate some of the music endings, Linton Kwesi Johnson'd Inglan' Is a Bitch, The (English) Beat, Stand Down Margaret. Even made me remember for first time in decades the Exploited Let's Start a War (Said Maggie One Day)

So assume Charles & Camilla must be unhappy with the new season as getting attacked by fans of the show anew https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adeonibada/season-the-crown-trolling-camilla-prince-charles?ref=bfnsplash

seeing Dominic West is being mentioned as Charles for next two seasons which makes no sense to me

H in Addis, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:46 (four days ago) link

Charles comes across as a massive prick throughout, I’d be raging if I was him.

scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 18:23 (four days ago) link

Prince Edward's "that was impressively cunty" was probably my favorite line delivery of the season so far.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 18:25 (four days ago) link

The problem with Anderson is that her's is more of an impression than a performance, there's no air in it. O'Conner's performance of Charles suffers similarly but not to the same extent. They both solely use a particular strained register that both Maggie and Charlie do have but they don't only speak and move in that register, as you can see from the C&D interview just posted. It's near impossible to flesh a character out tho given the either didactic or purely expositional dialogue.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 18:27 (four days ago) link

hers, damn.

Gerneten-flüken cake (jed_), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 18:28 (four days ago) link

Prince Edward's "that was impressively cunty" was probably my favorite line delivery of the season so far.

Hilarious, and felt deeply true somehow.

I'd deleted season 1 after watching 10 minutes and could not see myself watching a full season of the royals, then a friend begged me to find season 2 for her so, bored started watching it, went back to 1, and been watching avidly ever since tho still surprised.

H in Addis, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 18:46 (four days ago) link

yeah it’s weird, prior to this show existing I never would have pictured myself being SUPER into this show

i think the way it handles history + people, plus the ongoing exploration of “the crown” as concept & as impediment to anyone behaving remotely like a human

has a lot of unexpected layers that i am v much enjoying

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 18:53 (four days ago) link

O'Connor has had many wonderful moments; his performance has grown on me. That moment at the window when Elizabeth lectures him on his duties (the two arranged as if in a Bergman film), he turns to her with moist eyes, and Colman's chipper spirit for a fraction of a moment dissolves in the face of this suffering -- classic.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 19:10 (four days ago) link

anderson's thatcher is great. the harshness and fragility, the self-consciousness that hides behind self-righteousness, this is not just a performance of a human being but a whole economic and moral outlook. she's playing thatcherism.

Few things are more cringeworthy than Americans talking about Thatcher.

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 20:21 (four days ago) link

jesus wept!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 20:28 (four days ago) link

I'm sure we talk utter shite about US politics and political figures tbf.

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 20:33 (four days ago) link

No we do not.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 20:35 (four days ago) link

Jed otm, this is on my inattentive viewing of the EPs up to Fagen, but the performances are not the thing I'd concentrate too much on. I really love how -- while trying to account for it -- trolly it is about that period and the figures it's looking at.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 20:44 (four days ago) link

xxp
true but I think that was some seriously bad yellow-smartie inspired hyperbolic claptrap there! But I will try and be more thoughtful next time I post about Biden shitting into his nappy whilst absent-mindedly signing off on drone-strikes on bairns!

calzino, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 20:49 (four days ago) link

I have an OFFICIAL: THATCHER QUITS Evening Standard newsstand poster framed and hung over the sofa (and I did my undergrad dissertation on Thatcherism, which was the writing sample that got me on the NME).

American though, so I guess none of this counts?

scampopo (suzy), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:01 (four days ago) link

The exception that proves the rule. Whatever that means.

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:03 (four days ago) link

Lol just watched the Charles and Di interview that veg linked and "calls to Australia" bit is just such a laugh. They are really playing.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:04 (four days ago) link

my sister also has one of those posters :)

mark s, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:05 (four days ago) link

_anderson's thatcher is great. the harshness and fragility, the self-consciousness that hides behind self-righteousness, this is not just a performance of a human being but a whole economic and moral outlook. she's playing thatcherism._

Few things are more cringeworthy than Americans talking about Thatcher.


Yes, I’ve noticed.

scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:05 (four days ago) link

emma corrin's diana also incredible. very understated, really.

― treeship., Tuesday, 24 November 2020 bookmarkflaglink

understated?!?! Twitter picked the weird lack of control of the facial expressions and ran with it. Corrin is the one who is really throwing lots of stuff to see what sticks, I reckon..

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:09 (four days ago) link

(4/4) And while we’ve enjoyed your creative license, Hawke did not call the Queen a pig on our show and say, "You wouldn't put a pig in charge of a herd of prime beef cattle, even if it does look good in twin set and pearls." Here's what he really said. Thnx again @netflix! pic.twitter.com/0JY8sEOB5C

— 4corners (@4corners) November 25, 2020

huge rant (sic), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 01:22 (three days ago) link

this made me lol esp the sloooooow curtsy

#MargaretThatcher in private audience with the #Queen pic.twitter.com/EMPRgfBWod

— Adele Dazeem (@lisabexperience) November 23, 2020

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:04 (three days ago) link

was thinking there was no jimmy savile in S4, he was a regular dinner guest at Buckingham Palace during the 80's

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:11 (three days ago) link

:/

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 18:13 (three days ago) link

already tripped their nonce quotient w/dickie, andrew and chuck

reggae kraftwerk (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 19:09 (three days ago) link

ok wtf does s5 drop

mark s, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:22 (three days ago) link

if it has Dominic West in it I won't be impressed. Even though he wouldn't be playing against type at least - but I absolutely despise him as an actor - I just find him unpleasantly unwatchable and almost completely talentless.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:26 (three days ago) link

so he’s a bullseye for Chuck then lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:39 (three days ago) link

well there is that angle of him playing Charles I guess yeah!

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:41 (three days ago) link

lol what was I thinking of, he's born for the role!

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:43 (three days ago) link

tbh i want another two seasons of josh o'connor shrinking self-disgustedly even further into his own shoulders

mark s, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:45 (three days ago) link

his physicality as Charles is so great
like an invisible hand just pushing him down & crushing him at all times

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:47 (three days ago) link

I think they should stick with him he's very good. lol I keep thinking back to that nauseating scene where he + camilla are doing the bear joke and finishing off each others lines - it's horrible but it definitely captures something.

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 20:50 (three days ago) link

otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 21:14 (three days ago) link

We're on episode 4, and so far I've liked all of the acting and directing. Looks great, which does, yeah, help disguise how on the nose so much of it often is. Like (I'm making this up), the Queen will say out loud "what kind of a monster doesn't love her children equally?" and then cut to Thatcher saying "I don't love my children equally" and then later there will be a scene with the Queen and Prince Philip and Philip will say something like 'it's not a monster who does not love their children equally, it is a monster who even humors the possibility," and the Queen will look shaken and upset, and then back to Thatcher who intones "decisiveness should be one's primary trait, it is a show of strength" and then someone will say "Prime Minister, they are angry in the Falklands," and she will say "So send in the navy!" And someone will say "But Prime Minister, people already hate you, won't this make them hate you more?" And she'll respond "what kind of monster yearns to be loved?" And then they'll cut to a wounded deer limping around and someone will say "what a beautiful tragedy moving in slow motion," and then they'll cut to Diana, with her head bowed, walking slowly against a tide of paparazzi flashing their cameras in her face. And so on.

I think it's partly because, thanks to the actors, this story could probably be told through a series of forlorn faces, but they have to fill the silence some how. The dialogue often ends up ... not bad, but not always necessary, in a banal sort of soap opera way. Which it is, of course, but the technical pedigree is otherwise significantly greater.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:41 (two days ago) link

Btw, every time I see Diana I think of Anthony Edwards' impression on SNL

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-NVi7CZFWNTs/Wsed2ujW9SI/AAAAAAAAMm0/kPqcPAMqBDoWQNPntwn8l-XHPH_da6M1ACLcBGAs/s1600/turning%2Bpoint.JPG

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:43 (two days ago) link

lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:14 (two days ago) link

That...doesn't look promising, sorry.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:19 (two days ago) link


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