The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

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Ecuador confirms that it cut of Assange's internet connection because he was using Ecuadorian net to meddle in a foreign election: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvFWwTTWYAAqLQ8.jpg:large

Frederik B, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

then there's this

LAS VEGAS โ€” A wall is going up outside the Trump International Las Vegas hotel Wednesday morning.

The Culinary Union, long a Donald Trump antagonist in Las Vegas, is going to "build" a wall of taco trucks outside Trump's hotel, just a couple miles from UNLV, site of the final presidential debate.

The groups aim to have at least five taco trucks outside the hotel, in addition to a banner in the style of a wall that participants will be able to sign.

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

Whatever happened to the Republican Party I grew up with, that won elections by emasculating and brutally smearing their opponents? Now they want to win by dredging up minor improprieties to try and get their opponent disqualified.

It's like "1-2-3-4, you incorrectly filled out Form B-4"

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

The Cards Against Humanity publishers put up a billboard in Dearborn:

http://i64.tinypic.com/mvg1w8.jpg
Trans: Donald Trump can't read this but he's still afraid of it.

publicity hungry, opportunistic, disgruntled former employee (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:46 (seven years ago) link

should also bring roger clinton and what's left of billy carter imo

โ€• mark s, Tuesday, October 18, 201

Donald Nixon, Neil Reagan.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

Trump's ex-wives

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

Basically casting a reality show.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

they should just go for an all out prank war. trump should replace hillary's water glass with a trick glass that will cause it to spill. hillary should fill trump's glass with poison.

Treeship, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

Move your opponents bedroom up to the roof jersey shore style

i was going with the league of dem siblings but come one come all i guess

also: TEDDY!

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link

Obama's half-brother, Gennifer Flowers, George Clinton, Sarah Palin, Gary Busey, Roger Clinton, Delbert McClinton, Seal, Adam Levine, Pauly G ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:52 (seven years ago) link

Trump is gonna come in 30 minutes late wearing burnt and tattered clothing and claim Clinton's team shot a rocket launcher at his helicopter and then show Independence Day footage as proof

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link

he's definitely going to pull a stunt to "change the conversation" and top his last one, the deeply depressing "press conference." i'd say the more farcical the better. i'd even send an impersonator out there when they call his name the first time, just to throw people off.

Treeship, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

Full on Manchurian Candidate time

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link

I kinda want him to attempt to respond to the President just to hear what Obama would say next.

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:04 (seven years ago) link

"Bitch please
You must have a mental disease"

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:05 (seven years ago) link

Also, how many seconds before he mentions Bill Clinton? It was in his first answer last time. How heavy does he lean into it this time? Will he actually make airquotes when referring to "international bankers?"

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:07 (seven years ago) link

elaborate three-finger airquotes

mark s, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:08 (seven years ago) link

I want someone to spike his water with lsd

โ€œa tub of horsesโ€ (Myonga Vรถn Bontee), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:10 (seven years ago) link

man, imagine a drunk Trump

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:11 (seven years ago) link

why imagine?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMMcb1iyYl0

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:13 (seven years ago) link

Trump's final rehearsal for the final debate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co0aDXPTK5o

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:15 (seven years ago) link

He seems like the kind of guy who would just throw up after four beers and fall asleep.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 18 October 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

lol at the article titles on RCP Morning Edition. always entertaining

Where Clinton Would Take Obamacare Phil Gramm, Wall Street Journal
Pledging the Trump Fraternity Emma Roller, New York Times
I'm a Bible-Thumping Etiquette Teacher for Trump Diann Catlin, USA Today
Why Michelle Obama Is Clinton's Strongest Surrogate Jeet Heer, The New Republic
The FBI's Own Summary Proves Clinton Broke the Law David Harsanyi, The Federalist
Donald Trump's Unpatriotic Campaign Ezra Klein, Vox
Is the System Rigged? You Betcha. Pat Buchanan, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
A Litmus Test for Conservative Court Appointees Mark Paoletta, RealClearPolitics
2016's Manifest Misogyny Margaret Talbot, The New Yorker
Women Who Hate Trump, But Aren't With Hillary Clinton Emma Green, The Atlantic
Trump Misses Benchmarks, Is Running Out of Time David Byler, RealClearPolitics
Unite With Anybody to Do Right Charles Koch & Michael Lomax, USA Today
Israel Knows That Putin Is the Mideast's New Sheriff Shmuel Rosner, New York Times
Dawn of the New Iranian Empire Michael Rubin, Commentary
Everyone's Worst Investing Fears Andy Kessler, Wall Street Journal
Insider Candidates Flounder in Anti-Establishment Wave Josh Kraushaar, Natl Jrnl
Blunt, Bayh Face Similar Attacks in Senate Races James Arkin, RealClearPolitics

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:20 (seven years ago) link

Pat Buchanan's article brings the unintentional LOLs per usual

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:24 (seven years ago) link

Where Clinton Would Take Obamacare Phil Gramm, Wall Street Journal
Pledging the Trump Fraternity Emma Roller, New York Times
I'm a Bible-Thumping Etiquette Teacher for Trump Diann Catlin, USA Today
Why Michelle Obama Is Clinton's Strongest Surrogate Jeet Heer, The New Republic
The FBI's Own Summary Proves Clinton Broke the Law David Harsanyi, The Federalist
Donald Trump's Unpatriotic Campaign Ezra Klein, Vox
Is the System Rigged? You Betcha. Pat Buchanan, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
A Litmus Test for Conservative Court Appointees Mark Paoletta, RealClearPolitics
2016's Manifest Misogyny Margaret Talbot, The New Yorker
Women Who Hate Trump, But Aren't With Hillary Clinton Emma Green, The Atlantic
Trump Misses Benchmarks, Is Running Out of Time David Byler, RealClearPolitics
Unite With Anybody to Do Right Charles Koch & Michael Lomax, USA Today
Israel Knows That Putin Is the Mideast's New Sheriff Shmuel Rosner, New York Times
Dawn of the New Iranian Empire Michael Rubin, Commentary
Everyone's Worst Investing Fears Andy Kessler, Wall Street Journal
Insider Candidates Flounder in Anti-Establishment Wave Josh Kraushaar, Natl Jrnl
Blunt, Bayh Face Similar Attacks in Senate Races James Arkin, RealClearPolitics

one of John Hollander's best sonnets imo!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:27 (seven years ago) link

Donald Trump told supporters Tuesday that they should stop reading newspapers and magazines and urged them to instead "read the internet."
"Forget the press, read the internet," the GOP presidential nominee instructed a crowd in Colorado Springs, Colo.

(โ€ขฬชโ—) (carne asada), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:28 (seven years ago) link

xp lol that would be funnier if you'd picked a flarf poet

j., Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:35 (seven years ago) link

I like that Trump still seems to think the Internet is this homogeneous entity, like an all-knowing gelatinous being that is buried deep into the cracks of computer networks, that when summoned, will bear information that supports the uniform truth of Trump's inherent superiority.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:40 (seven years ago) link

...and not just a bunch of links people click on to get their dicks wet

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 00:40 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/ByKristenMClark/status/788411152187482113

didn't watch the debate. guessing it was pretty bad?

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:11 (seven years ago) link

how could someone lose a debate to rubio?

Treeship, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:13 (seven years ago) link

He steals all their water, too parched to speak.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:14 (seven years ago) link

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/marco-rubio-climate-change-denial_us_5805634be4b0dd54ce34cd18

South Florida, including Rubioโ€™s hometown of Miami, is already threatened by rising ocean waters caused by climate change. But at a Senate debate with his re-election challenger, the incumbent again doubted the existence of climate change.

โ€œI am 100 percent in favor of mitigation, if in fact sea levels are rising,โ€ Rubio said. He argued that policies to reduce carbon emissions are economically inefficient.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:20 (seven years ago) link

this is the new bullshit i see from yesterday's climate denialists who have read the tea leaves and realize that position is no longer tenable in educated society: yes climate change exists but government activity is ineffective in mitigating it so better to do nothing (or leave it to private interests). kinda feels like going around in circles - years spent educating these idiots that yes, the world is getting warmer, and in the end they can retreat to the same government-is-bad bailey.

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:23 (seven years ago) link

im for this, but only once it's too late
Xp

geometry-stabilized craft (art), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:24 (seven years ago) link

tbf it's too late

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:27 (seven years ago) link

It's never too late

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:37 (seven years ago) link

"Where there's life, there's hope." -some doctor guy

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:40 (seven years ago) link

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2016/10/18/where-are-the-white-evangelicals-for-mcmullin/

McMullin is Mormon himself, so sectarian loyalty plays some role here, but the larger factor seems to be that Mormons in general find Trumpโ€™s character, misogyny and bigotry to be repugnant in a way that most white evangelicals still do not. For many conservative Republican Mormons, Trumpism is a deal-breaker. For most conservative Republican evangelicals, itโ€™s not. Thatโ€™s why McMullinโ€™s long-shot campaign is up-ending the polling in Utah but not in the Bible Belt states where white evangelicals dominate Republican politics.

(rocketcat) ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿฑ ๐Ÿ‘‘๐ŸŸ (kingfish), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:43 (seven years ago) link

yeah, um, why is that?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:46 (seven years ago) link

One of these groups is not like the other...

ฮŸแฝ–ฯ„ฮนฯ‚, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:48 (seven years ago) link

i think bc most white evangelicals are christian as a catch-all term for a larger identity group of which christianity itself is only a small piece and therefore subordinate ideologically to other more important definitions of self - white, american particularly. in some ways christianity reinforces the most important tropes of this cultural group - fealty to authority, fear of secular centralization (which can oppress local rites + traditions), disdain for taboo + alternative practices. but generally overall it's just a feature of a hegemonic group - the flavor is christianity but it could just as easily be islamic or jewish or hindu etc. by contrast mormons are a minority group who in some ways share features w/ hegemonic america but the important bit is in the areas where they disagree. it's like when you're a construction worker among professors you feel your identity as a construction worker as more key to your self whereas the same person who is a man among only women feels their identity as a male more substantially. in america if you're a mormon you feel that identity as the most important one to your conception of self bc it's the area that distinguishes you from other [hegemonic] americans. but if you're a white christian maybe you feel fealty to right-wing politics are more key because everyone you know is a white christian. idk if this makes sense as a schemata but i think probably a total theory of evangelical right-wing christianity is not going to work (and as an interesting piece of evidence - women evangelicals have begun to come out against Trump possibly bc they feel their difference - being women - as key in this election cycle).

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 01:54 (seven years ago) link

I really don't think it has much to do with mormons as a minority. mormon culture is ridiculously straight-laced / fundamentally opposed to crassness. mormons are simply horrified by everything donald trump represents and don't want their children to have a president who brags about his penis size in a debate.

iatee, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 02:15 (seven years ago) link

i didn't mean to draw a direct correlation between being a minority and being anti-trump (tho i've heard that argument forwarded - that they sympathize with some of trump's targets bc they've been marginalized) - i meant more that their mormonism qua mormonism is more significant in their lives than evangelicals for whom the term carries less weight vis-a-vis self-conception.

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link

yeah that makes sense

iatee, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 02:23 (seven years ago) link

"He's going to lose and he knows that. He knows he's going to lose," Springsteen said. "And he's such a flagrant, toxic narcissist that he wants to take down the entire Democratic system with him if he goes."

"He simply has no sense of decency and no sense of responsibility about him," Springsteen said.

Bruce (on UK Channel 4) OTM.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 October 2016 02:30 (seven years ago) link

Mormons know what it's like to have the government fucking your shit up because of religious beliefs

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 02:33 (seven years ago) link

Mordy is also right. Mormons are in church or church related meetings and groups 3 days a week. Basically 6 days a week if you're in high school not to mention missions. They get deep into doctrine and their many tomes of religious texts.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 02:35 (seven years ago) link

And being a born again evangelical means you accepted Jesus into your heart one day then do whatever the fuck you want

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 19 October 2016 02:37 (seven years ago) link


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