The nation may survive, but the wound to hope and order will never fully heal - US elections 2016: the october surprises

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in that football thing he says "now they say 'game over 15 yard penalty you can't kick a field goal'"? is he saying that offensive players are getting a lot of helmet to helmet penalties or does he not understand the defense can't kick a field goal?

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:19 (seven years ago) link

Check out @adamcald11's Tweet: https://twitter.com/adamcald11/status/785878268427644928?s=09

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link

another important thing to bear in mind: the election result isn't "october poll avg ± X" where X is about 10 points, which is what that chart perhaps suggests. the chart ignores the issue of momentum, as in which way is the race moving. it's clearly moving toward hillary right now, and it's proving difficult to stop, much less turn around at the moment, and there's < 4 weeks to go.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link

There was a piece earlier this year that had a nice point -- that Trump rallies were essentially 'safe spaces' for the disenchanted who backed Trump over all else. What we're seeing is essentially the logical conclusion of that: in the internal world of rallies, certain TV/radio hosts, siloed political talk, everything is coming up Trump while everyone else is going "Uh...you're all kinda nuts, you know." The key difference here between true believers for a doomed campaign in the past and now is that Trump seems to have pretty much bought his own schtick, so they can't let go.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:27 (seven years ago) link

if someone can be convinced that DJT is fit to lead the free world i suspect there's no end to the things you could convince this person to believe.

A Trumpkin on my FB feed is convinced the Rudy/Hillary 9/11 photo is a photoshop because "if this was to have have been taken on 9/11 or shortly thereafter, where is the debris and dust? and those FDNY hats came out the same day? and thats an awful lot of spectators for a disaster area?" So yeah, there's no end of tin foil hattery.

Their all losers and I like associating with loser (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/adamcald11/status/785878268427644928?s=09

whoah who made this

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

Meantime, Rick Wilson, who I mentioned earlier, seems to have a pretty good inside line on certain things, and he's been dropping hints that another big Trump fuckup moment is nigh, adding there 'is a Boston angle' in particular. Hmm indeed, guess we'll see.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

so it's a racial slur then

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link

Not sure, Shakey, it showed up in my feed retweeted from someone else. But it'seems damned effective.

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link

so it's a racial slur then

haha yup

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link

That "13th" video clip legit made me go cold.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:36 (seven years ago) link

The Twitter video is a clip from Ava DuVernay's 13TH. xp

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:37 (seven years ago) link

Ah, got it. That's in my Netflix queue.

Meanwhile the self clowning continues: http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2016/10/manmentum.html?m=1

GUNSHOW POOPHOLE (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link

dding there 'is a Boston angle' in particular. Hmm indeed, guess we'll see.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:29 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Trump revealed to be the original bassist in Slapshot!!!

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

It's an amusing connection that Trump's football whining is similar to what his business partner and thinkalike Vince McMahon said in '00-01 when VKM started the XFL, an alternate gridiron league notable for greatly reduced safety measures matched up with hype for violence, and a player who busted his neck/clavicle on the very first play of the very first game.

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Meantime...she's a strange person, this one.

https://twitter.com/sppeoples/status/786314271504334849

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

Yup:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFL

Injuries were a major problem across the league: only three of the league's eight Opening Day starters; Los Angeles's Tommy Maddox, San Francisco's Mike Pawlawski and Memphis's Jim Druckenmiller; were still starters by the end of the season. Birmingham and Las Vegas were both on their third-string quarterbacks by the end of the ten-week season.

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

no one thinks that invoice is real do they? please tell me no one believes that is real

you have to wonder who's gonna see that and believe it just because they already think the fix is in for clinton

shoutout to acorn & bill ayers, tho

gwyneth anger (patron sailor), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:49 (seven years ago) link

earning her keep, that Kellyann

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:50 (seven years ago) link

"Sharia Law Center"

serge thoroughgoods (will), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

loooooool at using that Nate Silver map!

Their all losers and I like associating with loser (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:55 (seven years ago) link

Occupy Democrats is fucking lame, but they did just burn Giuliani's ass real good

http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/fdny-1024x536.jpg

http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/fdny2-1024x516.jpg

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 21:57 (seven years ago) link

Meanwhile get ready for next week!

Wallace will ask questions about debt and entitlements, immigration, the economy, the Supreme Court, foreign hot spots and the candidates’ fitness to be president, according to an announcement made Wednesday by the Commission on Presidential Debates. Each of the six segments will last 15 minutes.
Those topics are subject to change based on any news developments.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

I was at that intersection just yesterday! No sign of Clinton. If she was really there on 9/11, and by the way you notice she is wearing a mask. She doesn't want people to know who she is and really - - - really, folks, can you blame her? I mean... gimme a break. It's a really ugly mask too. And you know the other guys, they wouldn't wear them. They said, we're not wearing these, we're taking them off because - nothing to hide. Rudy. So if she was really there, and I think she was wearing a mask but she wasn't thee, because why is she not there now? The buildings are there now. The traffic lights are there now. I saw it. I've seen it. It's, there's no answer. No answer, folks. They have no answer and it's a fake, believe me it's a fake. It's true. Unbelievable. They faked these pictures, they fake everything, and the media - they're so biased, they're the worst media. It's worse than papyrus or carrier pigeons! This is the middle ages, it's worse than parchment the media and Rudy - I have said this all along, they're not reporting and that's why they're a failing newspaper.

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

Cool, climate change gets a solid 30 seconds of air time.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:17 (seven years ago) link

if someone can be convinced that DJT is fit to lead the free world i suspect there's no end to the things you could convince this person to believe.

Read this as DJP at first.

nickn, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:26 (seven years ago) link

im also scurred of chris wallace but john dickerson from face the nation (and the slate podcast) says he thinks hes a good questioner who will be fair.

carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:27 (seven years ago) link

I don't get the impression Chris Wallace is a fan of Trump or any of his bullshit. He might actually be the toughest moderator of all.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:29 (seven years ago) link

And it's not like Ailes has any say over him at this point.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:32 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/786258510443008000 😗👌

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:33 (seven years ago) link

candidates’ fitness to be president

is this purposefully broad?

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:36 (seven years ago) link

cardio question every 7 minutes

j., Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:41 (seven years ago) link

Wallace and Trump hate each other iirc

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

Chris Wallace doesn't matter. Unless the polls reverse course in a big way, Clinton will be in DGAF mode for the third debate. I'm guessing she was rattled in the second one because Trump was gaining ground. Her worst moments were when she tried engaging with him. Now? She can just ignore all the insanity entirely and calmly recite campaign material. Just take a knee and run out the clock. Meanwhile Trump is going to lurch onto the stage and burst forth from his own skin like a Cronenberg movie.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:43 (seven years ago) link

she wasn't rattled

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:44 (seven years ago) link

New story, on record:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link

she was ridiculously calm and chill at the debate imo, you'd never know the other bullshit had gone down minutes before

nomar, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

I'm guessing she was rattled in the second one because Trump was gaining ground.

Huh? He's been in a freefall for weeks.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:48 (seven years ago) link

In a phone interview on Tuesday night, a highly agitated Mr. Trump denied every one of the women’s claims.

“None of this ever took place,” said Mr. Trump, who began shouting at The Times reporter who was questioning him. He said that The Times was making up the allegations to hurt him and that he would sue the news organization if it reported them.

“You are a disgusting human being,” he told the reporter as she questioned him about the women’s claims.

Asked whether he had ever done any of the kissing or groping that he had described on the recording, Mr. Trump was once again insistent: “I don’t do it. I don’t do it. It was locker room talk.”

nomar, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:49 (seven years ago) link

New story, on record:

but Ned NRO said there wasn't a single witness!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

fucking hell, this guy

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

Alas, NRO might be, how you say, wrong.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

“He was like an octopus,” she said. “His hands were everywhere.”

is anybody else hearing this in the voice of John Cale

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link

i knew i heard that somewhere before

do i look sexy today 564 (map), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:53 (seven years ago) link

Also (per Rick Wilson's talk about the next 'big' story I observed earlier), I note Erickson just said this on his site re this new NYT story:

And this is not the big story that should be out later this week.

It's pretty obvious *something* is coming down the pike.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

She seemed a tiny bit rattled by Trump being an abusive monster who said he wanted to destroy her life, called her the devil, stalked her on stage and several times seemed close to attacking her. She seemed less rattled than anyone should be expected to be in that situation.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

love Trump's reaction in this story - cool as a cucumber that guy!

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:54 (seven years ago) link

can't wait for more, mmm schadenfreude

sleeve, Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

The next few weeks will be, I suspect, Cosby-esque.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link

tbh i'm kind of amazed they got him on the phone for it.

DOCTOR CAISNO, BYCREATIVELABBUS (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 12 October 2016 22:55 (seven years ago) link


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