Filmstruck / Criterion Channel

The film streaming service from TCM & Criterion Collection goes live in 13 days — October 19th.
$6.99/month for the basic service, $10.99/month (or $99/year) for Filmstruck + Criterion Channel

Who's in?

looks good that they have the commentaries, extras etc of Criterion discs, or at least some of that kind of content. i hope this won't mean the end of the Criterion blu rays. i'm expecting 'that market' will always want the 36 page books and fancy packaging and such. i know i will.

http://www.filmstruck.com/

I'm in.

i wonder why the TCM lot and the Criterion gang decided to get into bed together. i mean Criterion doesn't seem like an obvious match for Ted 'Colourization' Turner.

Turner hasn't been involved in years...? TCM is a pretty good channel. Have they ever shown a colorized film?

Cons: US only, no Roku support at launch, extreme vagueness (how many films? "HUNDREDS of films!")

But I'll sign up, at least for a few months.

I'll wait to start until Criterion joins up in November. I'll drop the $99 for their catalog alone.

Criterion won't be available from day 1? I hadn't heard that part.

Yet no one posts on my Fandor thread

November 11th for Criterion. They have to wait for the Hulu deal to expire.

Not bad, if you do the $99 once-a-year payment, it's about $20 cheaper than a year of Netflix. Is there any way to browse the TCM catalog at the moment?

On their FB page they said Criterion will be available at launch.

I want to sign up but my two devices (Nvidia Shield TV and XB1) aren't supported.

I went by this press release that says the 1th of November.

https://thefilmstage.com/news/filmstruck-and-the-criterion-channel-reveal-subscription-pricing-plans/

Been reading a lot of information on the website and elsewhere, but haven't seen anything that says the TCM movies will also be part of the package. I have a nagging feeling that they're not. Also wonder if the Criterion movies will be available in 1080, instead of the 720 now on Hulu.

I don't think everything on nightly at TCM will be on there but a selection of TCM-sequel films.

I'm going to guess it will be like Mubi with a larger rotating library plus Criterion.

TCM-esque

yeah, TCM's tweet that filmstruck "will focus on indie, foreign & cult titles, not Old Hollywood. Some limited titles, not many" considerably dampened my enthusiasm.

https://twitter.com/tcm/status/777661149911347200

my guess is milo z otm re: criterion plus larger mubi. Which is cool, but not the turner library plus janus library nearly nonstop excellence that i had prematurely imagined

I have a Hulu subscription and honestly never watched a single Criterion title. The ones I want, I just buy.

I was excited when I thought this was gonna be criterion + old Hollywood tcm stuff. The latter element was critical for me. If it's criterion + buffet of other stuff then no.

Yeah, that's a bummer. I figured $99 was a no brainer but if it's Criterion plus some random rotating films I don't know.

basically i would pay... let's see... $15 a month for some reasonable fascimile of access to TCM's programming without having to have fucking cable tv

aw man. I too was pretty stoked for the TCM+Criterion version of this.

This weird in-between time where the biggest events still happen on old-fashioned cable TV, the "prestige" TEH DISCOURSE TV shows are on Netflix, film is either exploded across multiple competing streaming services or iTunes rental downloads that disappear after 24 hours or totally unavailable, video stores are rare — is totally excruciating.

whiney otm, i feel a deep nostalgia for, like, 2008-2010, when a full decade of DVD production had led to lot of foreign/classic/arthouse stuff to be available, and Netflix was still in the business of providing just about any DVD that got produced.

Like, the fact that we let this happen is ridiculous: http://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2014/09/12/netflix_streaming_dvds/

maybe i just wasn't reading the early filmstruck announcements carefully, but it seems like everyone i know was expecting it to have a major focus on classic hollywood, given tcm's involvement. My guess is that getting streaming rights to that old hollywood stuff is probably just insanely complicated and, from a business perspective, not worth the investment of time and resources. Still disappointing though.

I've never watched any Criterions on Hulu but that's because their interface is such a disaster - you don't know what's streaming in HD, there's no easy way to sort the entire Criterion list, etc. Higher hopes for this, though I'm a lot less inclined toward a burning need to watch Truffaut than when I was 23.

Their interface/searching/tagging/credits is all pretty awful in comparison to Netflix and even Amazon Prime. That said, damn I'm gonna have to rush out some screenings before they leave. Better get Lady Snowblood queued up.

The FAQ has changed to specify that only 4th-gen Apple TV will support this, so me and my 3rd-gen box are out of luck. I'll have to load a film on my iMac and push it to the tv with Airplay.

With airplay/casting, does it make a difference if you're casting from a phone vs. a computer?

(I think my Apple TV is second generation...)

I honestly don't know. That time David Lynch cussed traumatized me so bad I've never tried watching film or video on my phone.

sad trombone

Hello film fans:

We want to share some news that the launch of FilmStruck is delayed until November as we work to complete a seamless and easy registration process for subscribers.

Just like the final stages of completing a film, this additional time will allow us to put the finishing touches on FilmStruck in order to bring you a premium service with beautifully curated content and the largest streaming library of world-renowned arthouse, indie, cult and foreign films. Rest assured, we're working hard to bring you the high-quality streaming movie service you've been waiting for.

Thank you for both your patience and your enthusiastic interest in FilmStruck.

The FilmStruck Team

At this point they should wait until the Hulu contract for the Criterions expires.

Yep. I wasn't planning on starting any free trial until everything was available.

Launched.
Looks like the Criterions are up with an 11-day overlap with Hulu. Seeing a lot of fussing on the Facebook page about errors while setting up payment.

Anyone start using this yet? Any thoughts (apart from the still unavailable (?) Criterions?

I'm in, just getting the apps installed now. I need a tivo app! Apple and Amazon will do for now.

Sound like it's worth waiting a few weeks for them to get all the bugs worked out

Not available on Roku til Jan so nope for a while. Also copy on their site suggested that virtually all Criterions wd be available but several that I've searched for are not (incl All That Jazz, ugh)

They have someone responding to comments on Facebook, putting on the shiny happy face but being really vague with specific questions.

Some Guy Named Dave: Your Criterion selection seems to be quite limited. Are you ever going to offer the same number of Criterion titles as Hulu - over 900?

FilmStruck: Hi Dave, on the #CriterionChannel side you will find the largest selection of Criterion releases available to stream

Me: That doesn't really answer the question that was asked...

FilmStruck: #CriterionChannel has the largest Criterion selection available streaming, more than was ever available elsewhere.

Me: Ozu on Hulu: 30 features, 2 shorts and a trailer
Ozu on Filmstruck: looks like 18 features

Filmstruck: (crickets)

Huh, why would it have less than Hulu does? That doesn't make any sense to me. I did notice through a cursory search that they had at least two titles not on Hulu (Godard's Every Man for Himself and Yang's A Brighter Summer Day), so I was hopeful that maybe it had more than Hulu.

It doesn't have all the Oshima titles that are currently on Hulu either

I'm hoping they're still loading up the buffet table. They have quite a few things that aren't on Hulu -- Blood Simple, that JFK documentary stuff. They got The Killing of a Chinese Bookie back, which disappeared from Hulu a year or more ago.

I'm hopeful too, though the way filmstruck has been marketed and rolled out has dampened my expectations all around

Even Criterion doesn't have the rights to all the Criterions anymore

yeah, otm, and i'm sure there are a number of criterions that got dvd release, but where they never had streaming rights. the more i search around on filmstruck the more i think that WilliamC is probably right that they're still adding movies to the service.

hm. no amazon app even!

TBF, this is the day where they're going nuts with the press.

Never seen any Davies, looking forward to that. And happily watch Foreign Affair, my favourite Wilder movie, yet again

It's a good one, even though the lead is kind of weird, as discussed in the Cameron Crowe book.

But really came to post that I just watched Synonyms before it left, by the always interesting Nadav Lapid.

I have not seen A Foreign Affair! Inexplicably hard to find on video, DVD, YouTube...

Some great musical numbers - with Friedrich Hollaender! Jean Arthur is a little problematic, maybe, one of her nervous latter day performances, although some might disagree.

She's never persuaded me: an unexciting mix of the coy and the cute.

Not even in stuff like The More the Merrier?

I tolerate her. She's the least interesting performer in Only Angels Have Wings.

It's fine. Many people (like Orson Welles) can't stand Irene Dunne.

Agree she's not A-list but I love her in History is Made at Night

Not A-list!?

Is this a place where we can solicit recommendations for the criteria streaming platform? Or is that elsewhere

Believe this is exactly the place for that.

One of my favorite discoveries has been Tom Noonan's What Happened Was... one of the most effective movies I've seen about possibly being too idiosyncratic to form a connection with anybody. Obviously a big influence on Charlie Kaufman but not as overbearing as he can be.

Gonna have to resub to Criterion

Today's the day: Wendell B. Harris Jr.’s (@WendellBHarris2) audacious dark comedy CHAMELEON STREET (1989)—a rediscovered masterpiece of American independent filmmaking—is now playing exclusively on @criterionchannl! You're not going to want to miss this. https://t.co/7zBiAkunsa pic.twitter.com/iO5dWJWzd6

— Criterion Collection (@Criterion) June 14, 2022

July 2022 titles:

a.k.a. Cassius Clay, Jim Jacobs, 1970
Accused of Murder, Joseph Kane, 1956
Adoption, Márta Mészáros, 1975
Africa on the Seine, Paulin Soumanou Vieyra and Mamadou Sarr, 1955
Ahed’s Knee, Nadav Lapid, 2021
Air Doll, Hirokazu Kore-eda, 2009
All Dogs Go to Heaven, Don Bluth, 1989
And Now Miguel, Joseph Krumgold, 1953
Bad Day at Black Rock, John Sturges, 1955*
The Badlanders, Delmer Daves, 1958*
Before Midnight, Richard Linklater, 2013*
Before Sunrise, Richard Linklater, 1995
Before Sunset, Richard Linklater, 2004
Birago Diop, conteur, Paulin Soumanou Vieyra, 1981
Black Widow, Nunnally Johnson, 1954
Blow-Ball, Márta Mészáros, 1964
The Bravados, Henry King, 1958
By the Time It Gets Dark, Anocha Suwichakornpong, 2016
The Champ, King Vidor, 1931
Champion, Mark Robson, 1949
Days of Wine and Roses, Blake Edwards, 1962
Desert Fury, Lewis Allen, 1947
Destry Rides Again, George Marshall, 1939
Dziga and His Brothers, Evgeny Tsymbal, 2002
Experiment in Terror, Blake Edwards, 1962
Fat City, John Huston, 1972
Foreign Intrigue, Sheldon Reynolds, 1956
Gentleman Jim, Raoul Walsh, 1942
The Great Race, Blake Edwards, 1965
The Gunfighter, Henry King, 1950
Hammer, Bruce D. Clark, 1972
The Harder They Fall, Mark Robson, 1956
He Laughed Last, Blake Edwards, 1956
Hedwig and the Angry Inch, John Cameron Mitchell, 2001
Here Comes Mr. Jordan, Alexander Hall, 1941
House of Bamboo, Samuel Fuller, 1955
I Died a Thousand Times, Stuart Heisler, 1955*
Iba N’Diaye, Paulin Soumanou Vieyra, 1982
The Image You Missed, Dónal Foreman, 2018
In Old Chicago, Henry King, 1938
Inferno, Roy Ward Baker, 1953
A Kiss Before Dying, Gerd Oswald, 1956
Lamb, Paulin Soumanou Vieyra, 1964
Leave Her to Heaven, John M. Stahl, 1945
Lemon, Janicza Bravo, 2017*
Lure of the Wilderness, Jean Negulesco, 1952
Man of the West, Anthony Mann, 1958
Matilda, Daniel Mann, 1978
Mississippi Masala, Mira Nair, 1991
Môl, Paulin Soumanou Vieyra, 1966
Museum Hours, Jem Cohen, 2012
A Nation Is Born, Paulin Soumanou Vieyra, 1961
Niagara, Henry Hathaway, 1953
Party Girl, Nicholas Ray, 1958
Peter & the Wolf, Suzie Templeton, 2006
Petition, Zhao Liang, 2009
Pink Flamingos, John Waters, 1972
Raging Bull, Martin Scorsese, 1980
Requiem for a Heavyweight, Ralph Nelson, 1962
The Ring, Alfred Hitchcock, 1927
Ring of Fire: The Emile Griffith Story, Dan Klores and Ron Berger, 2005
The River’s Edge, Allan Dwan, 1957
Scaffold, Kazik Radwanski, 2017
The Set-Up, Robert Wise, 1949
Shaft, Gordon Parks, 1971
Somebody Up There Likes Me, Robert Wise, 1956
The Snows of Kilimanjaro, Henry King, 1952
The Song of Bernadette, Henry King, 1943
State Fair, Henry King, 1933
Sunset Song, Terence Davies, 2015
Swamp Water, Jean Renoir, 1941
That’s Life!, Blake Edwards, 1986
Tigrero: A Film That Was Never Made, Mika Kaurismäki, 1994
Twelve O’Clock High, Henry King, 1949
Victor/Victoria, Blake Edwards, 1982
Walker, Alex Cox, 1987
Western, Valeska Grisebach, 2017
The Winning of Barbara Worth, Henry King, 1926
*Available in the U.S. only

Ahed’s Knee? Wow, that was quick!

August 2022 titles:

7 Faces of Dr. Lao, George Pal, 1964
Aatsinki: The Story of Arctic Cowboys, Jessica Oreck, 2013
Acting Our Age, Gurinder Chadha, 1992
After the Thin Man, W. S. Van Dyke, 1936*
All These Sleepless Nights, Michał Marczak, 2016
Another Country, Molly Reynolds, 2015
Arabesque, Stanley Donen, 1966
The Asphalt Jungle, John Huston, 1950*
August Sky, Jasmin Tenucci, 2020
Battle for the Planet of the Apes, J. Lee Thompson, 1973
Baxter, Vera Baxter, Marguerite Duras, 1977
Beetle Queen Conquers Tokyo, Jessica Oreck, 2009
Better Luck Tomorrow, Justin Lim, 2002
Blue Collar, Paul Schrader, 1978
Bone, Larry Cohen, 1972
Brigadoon, Vincente Minnelli, 1954*
Broken Blossoms, D. W. Griffith, 1919
Charlie Chan in Honolulu, H. Bruce Humberstone, 1939
Charlie’s Country, Rolf de Heer, 2013
China Doll, Frank Borzage, 1958
China Sky, Ray Enright, 1945
The Curse of Quon Gwon, Marion E. Wong, 2005
Damnation, Béla Tarr, 1988
Daughter of the Dragon, Lloyd Corrigan, 1931
Donbass, Sergei Loznitsa, 2018
Double Wedding, Richard Thorpe, 1937
The Earth Is Blue as an Orange, Iryna Tsilyk, 2020
Flatbush! Flatbush!, Alex Ramírez-Mallis, 2021
Flower Drum Song, Henry Koster, 1961
Fran, Glenda Hambly, 1985
The Good Earth, Sidney Franklin, 1937
Gulpilil—One Red Blood, Darlene Johnson, 2002
The Heathen Chinese and the Sunday School Teachers, 1904
A Hero Ain’t Nothin’ But a Sandwich, Ralph Nelson, 1978
A House Divided: Denmark Vesey’s Rebellion, Stan Lathan, 1982
Husbands, John Cassavetes, 1970
I Love You Again, W. S. Van Dyke, 1940
I’ve Heard the Mermaids Singing, Patricia Rozema, 1987
King of Chinatown, Nick Grinde, 1939
Legal Smuggling with Christine Choy, Lewie Kloster, 2016
The Letter, Jean de Limur, 1929
Libeled Lady, Jack Conway, 1936
Life Without Dreams, Jessica Bardsley, 2022
Little Miss Marker, Walter Bernstein, 1980
Lost Horizon, Frank Capra, 1937
Love Crazy, Jack Conway, 1941
Love Me Tonight, Rouben Mamoulian, 1932
M. Butterfly, David Cronenberg, 1993
Mad Dog Morgan, Philippe Mora, 1976
Manhattan Melodrama, W. S. Van Dyke, 1934
Massacre of the Christians by the Chinese, 1900
Midnight Run, Martin Brest, 1988
Misty, James B. Clark, 1961
Mizuko, Kira Dane, Katelyn Rebelo, 2019
Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House, H. C. Potter, 1948
Mr. Hobbs Takes a Vacation, Henry Koster, 1962
My Name Is Gulpilil, Molly Reynolds, 2021
A Nice Arrangement, Gurinder Chadha, 1994
Nonstop, Zac Manuel, Marta Rodriguez Maleck, 2021
Once Is Not Enough, Guy Green, 1975
Past Perfect, Jorge Jácome, 2019
Penthouse, W. S. Van Dyke, 1933
Piccadilly, E. A. Dupont, 1929
Portrait of Kaye, Ben Reed, 2021
The Proposition, John Hillcoat, 2005*
Queenie, Cai Thomas, 2020
Rabbit-Proof Fence, Phillip Noyce, 2002
The Red Pony, Lewis Milestone, 1949
Rider on a Dead Horse, Herbert L. Strock, 1962
Rouge, Stanley Kwan, 1988
The Sand Pebbles, Robert Wise, 1966
Silver Streak, Arthur Hiller, 1976
Stamboul Quest, Sam Wood, 1934
Stay Close, Luther Clement and Shuhan Fan, 2019
Storm Boy, Colin Thiele, 1976
Sunflower, Vittorio De Sica, 1970
Sweet Smell of Success, Alexander Mackendrick, 1957
Ten Canoes, Rolf de Heer, Peter Djigirr, 2006
Test Pilot, Victor Fleming, 1938
The Thin Man, W. S. Van Dyke, 1934
Touch of Evil, Orson Welles, 1958
The Tracker, Rolf de Heer, 2002
Two for the Road, Stanley Donen, 1967
Valley Girl, Martha Coolidge, 1983
The Vanquishing of the Witch Baba Yaga, Jessica Oreck, 2014
The Wedding Banquet, Ang Lee, 1993
We Are the Best!, Lukas Moodysson, 2013
What Do You Call an Indian Woman Who’s Funny?, Gurinder Chadha, 1994
Whipsaw, Sam Wood, 1935
The Wolfpack, Crystal Moselle, 2015
The World of Suzie Wong, Richard Quine, 1960
Wood and Water, Jonas Bak, 2021
Xiu Xiu: The Sent Down Girl, Joan Chen, 1998
Year of the Dragon, Michael Cimino, 1985

*Available in the U.S. only

Xiu Xiu is one of those movies I heard about on rec.arts.movies that I could never hunt down.

Lotta yellowface this month or am i imagining that

And that scene in Silver Streak

i had just put blue collar on hold at the library to finally watch it, so now i get to cancel that hold

does anyone understand the streaming rights of criterion enough to know if they'll ever put nashville on criterion channel? seems like they would have done it by now if it was going to happen

I keep thinking there must be a big database out there somewhere, where you can enter a film and find out who "owns" it, who owns the physical media rights and the separate streaming rights, what the current disposition of those rights are and maybe even the history. I see a fair number of know-it-alls on the CC Club facebook group who can rattle off that data at will, and I want to know where they get their intel.

huh, sounds intense

i just noticed We Are the Best! on the list, that movie rules

Getting through a few films slated to leave Criterion at the end of the month I watched The Big Knife (1955) last night. Based on a Clifford Odets play, the situations and dialogue are so overwrought it's fascinating, especially Rod Steiger's scenery-chewing film studio head. (I had somehow seen a bit of this movie years ago and remembered his over-the-top performance.) Anyone else seen this/a fan?

I tried Big Knife when I was a teenager after falling in love with Sweet Smell of Success, but found it Much Too Much. I wonder if SSoS is more Lehman than Odets? You can definitely trace Waiting for Lefty to Big Knife. Sweet Smell, not so much.

The Wolfpack, Crystal Moselle, 2015

Wasnt this documentary outed as a hoax?

August features, bundles, departments: https://criterioncast.com/news/august-2022-programming-on-the-criterion-channel-announced

September 2022 titles:

Across 110th Street, Barry Shear, 1972
Air Force, Howard Hawks, 1943
Ana and the Wolves, Carlos Saura, 1973
Another Prayer, Sofia Bohdanowicz, 2013
Bell, Book and Candle, Richard Quine, 1958
Billy Liar, John Schlesinger, 1963
Boccaccio ’70, Mario Monicelli, Vittorio De Sica, Federico Fellini, and Luchino Visconti, 1962
Bronco Bullfrog, Barney Platts-Mills, 1969
Car Wash, Michael Schultz, 1976
César and Rosalie, Claude Sautet, 1972
Come Back, Little Sheba, Daniel Mann, 1952
Cousin Angelica, Carlos Saura, 1974
Darling, John Schlesinger, 1965
Death in Venice, Luchino Visconti, 1971
Discontinuity, Lori Felker, 2015
A Drownful Brilliance of Wings, Sofia Bohdanowicz, 2016
Elisa, vida mía, Carlos Saura, 1977
An Evening, Sofia Bohdanowicz, 2013
Elvira Madigan, Bo Widerberg, 1967
Funny Girl, William Wyler, 1968*
Funny Lady, Herbert Ross, 1975
The Garden of Delights, Carlos Saura, 1970
Good Neighbor Sam, David Swift, 1964
The Hard Way, Vincent Sherman, 1943
The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter, Robert Ellis Miller, 1968
He Ran All the Way, John Berry, 1951
Henri-Georges Clouzot’s “Inferno,” Serge Bromberg and Ruxandra Medrea, 2009*
Honeycomb, Carlos Saura, 1969
Hud, Martin Ritt, 1963
The Hunt, Carlos Saura, 1966
If…., Lindsay Anderson, 1968
Jabberwocky, Terry Gilliam, 1977
Kes, Ken Loach, 1969
A Kind of Loving, John Schlesinger, 1962
Kings Row, Sam Wood, 1942
The Knack . . . and How to Get It, Richard Lester, 1965
Late August, Early September, Olivier Assayas, 1998
Les choses de la vie, Claude Sautet, 1970
The L-Shaped Room, Bryan Forbes, 1962*
Ludwig, Luchino Visconti, 1973
Maison du bonheur, Sofia Bohdanowicz, 2017
The Man Who Fell to Earth, Nicolas Roeg, 1976
Max and the Junkmen, Claude Sautet, 1971
Monkey Business: The Adventures of Curious George’s Creators, Ema Ryan Yamazaki, 2017
The Most Beautiful Boy in the World, Kristina Lindström and Kristian Petri, 2021
MS Slavic 7, Sofia Bohdanowicz, Deragh Campbell, 2019
Neptune Frost, Saul Williams and Anisia Uzeyman, 2021
Never Eat Alone, Sofia Bohdanowicz, 2016
The Old Man and the Sea, John Sturges, 1958
Patang, Prashant Bhargava, 2011
Picnic, Joshua Logan, 1955
Point and Line to Plane, Sofia Bohdanowicz, 2020
A Prayer, Sofia Bohdanowicz, 2013
The Prisoner of Zenda, John Cromwell, 1937
Pumping Iron, George Butler and Robert Fiore, 1977
Pushing Hands, Ang Lee, 1991
Room at the Top, Jack Clayton, 1959
The Rose Tattoo, Daniel Mann, 1955*
Sambizanga, Sarah Maldoror, 1972
Searching for Mr. Rugoff, Ira Deutchman, 2019
The Secret of Roan Inish, John Sayles, 1994
The Servant, Joseph Losey, 1963
The September Issue, R. J. Cutler, 2009*
Seven Beauties, Lina Wertmüller, 1975
Shining Victory, Irving Rapper, 1941
Sissi, Ernst Marischka, 1955
The Soft Space, Sofia Bohdanowicz and Melanie J. Scheiner, 2018
Sound of the Night, Chanrado Sok and Kongkea Vann, 2021
Spontaneous, Lori Felker, 2020
The Strawberry Blonde, Raoul Walsh, 1941
Stress Is Three, Carlos Saura, 1968
Sweet Hours, Carlos Saura, 1982
Swept Away, Lina Wertmüller, 1974
That Most Important Thing: Love, Andrzej Żuławski, 1975
The Wonderland, Keiichi Hara, 2019
This Is Not a Movie, Yung Chang, 2019*
This Property Is Condemned, Sydney Pollack, 1966
Veslemøy’s Song, Sofia Bohdanowicz, 2018
Yankee Doodle Dandy, Michael Curtiz, 1942
*Available in the U.S. only

The Bronco Bullfrog trailer I saw at Film Forum was really intriguing, still haven’t seen the movie.

I watched The Set-Up last night (1949, dir. Robert Wise) and for a 72 minute RKO cheapie with no shortage of boxing movie cliches, it's beautifully shot, the characters are colorful, and it captures its grubby dressing room, hotel, bar and sidewalk scenes extremely well. Recommend seeing it before it leaves at the end of the month.

> Bronco Bullfrog

it was one of the BFI Flipside films. and one of the extras had a clip that i swear was filmed at the old borstal about 100 yards from here

The full list for October hasn't been announced yet, but they've dropped a teaser and film list for an 80s Horror package:

Inferno, Dario Argento, 1980
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Miss Osbourne, Walerian Borowczyk, 1981
Dead & Buried, Gary Sherman, 1981
The House by the Cemetery, Lucio Fulci, 1981
The Funhouse, Tobe Hooper, 1981
Strange Behavior, Michael Laughlin, 1981
Wolfen, Michael Wadleigh, 1981
Scanners, David Cronenberg, 1981
Road Games, Richard Franklin, 1981
The Fan, Ed Bianchi, 1981
Basket Case, Frank Henenlotter, 1982
Next of Kin, Tony Williams, 1982
Cat People, Paul Schrader, 1982
Q: The Winged Serpent, Larry Cohen, 1982
The Slumber Party Massacre, Amy Holden Jones, 1982
The Keep, Michael Mann, 1983
The Hunger, Tony Scott, 1983*
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, John McNaughton, 1986
The Hidden, Jack Sholder, 1987
Prince of Darkness, John Carpenter, 1987
White of the Eye, Donald Cammell, 1987
Near Dark, Kathryn Bigelow, 1987
The Vanishing, George Sluizer, 1988
Brain Damage, Frank Henenlotter, 1988
Dream Demon, Harley Cokeliss, 1988
The Blob, Chuck Russell, 1988
Lair of the White Worm, Ken Russell, 1988
Vampire’s Kiss, Robert Bierman, 1989
Society, Brian Yuzna, 1989
Tetsuo: The Iron Man, Shinya Tsukamoto, 1989

I love their annual horror series. But The Keep? Any idea which cut? Just the theatrical cut that Mann has more or less disowned?

Full list of new arrivals for October 2022:

Atragon, Ishiro Honda, 1963
August 32nd on Earth, Denis Villeneuve, 1998
Basket Case, Frank Henenlotter, 1982
Black Book, Paul Verhoeven, 2006
The Black Cat, Edgar G. Ulmer, 1934
Blackenstein, William A. Levey, 1973
Blacula, William Crain, 1972
The Blob, Chuck Russell, 1988
Blood & Donuts, Holly Dale, 1995*
Blood and Sand, Rouben Mamoulian, 1941
Brain Damage, Frank Henenlotter, 1988
Bride of Frankenstein, James Whale, 1935
Cat People, Paul Schrader, 1982
Caught, Max Ophuls, 1949*
Celia, Ann Turner, 1989
Cosmos, Marie-Julie Dallaire, Manon Briand, Jennifer Alleyn, Arto Paragamian, André Turpin, and Denis Villeneuve, 1996
Creature from the Black Lagoon, Jack Arnold, 1954
The Criminals, Serhat Karaaslan, 2020
Dead & Buried, Gary Sherman, 1981
Deep Cover, Bill Duke, 1992
Dogora, Ishiro Honda, 1964
Dracula, Tod Browning, 1931
Dracula: Pages from a Virgin’s Diary, Guy Maddin, 2002
Dracula (Spanish-language version), George Melford, 1931
Dream Demon, Harley Cokeliss, 1988
Dries, Reiner Holzemer, 2017
Estonia Dreams of Eurovision!, Marina Zenovich, 2002
The Fan, Edward Bianchi, 1981
Fascination, Jean Rollin, 1979
Forty Guns, Samuel Fuller, 1957
Frankenstein, James Whale, 1931
Frankenstein vs. Baragon, Ishiro Honda, 1965
The Funhouse, Tobe Hooper, 1981
A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night, Ana Lily Amirpour, 2014
The Headless Woman, Lucrecia Martel, 2008
Heroin, Jessica Beshir, 2017
He Who Dances on Wood, Jessica Beshir, 2016
The Hidden, Jack Sholder, 1987
Hot Mother, Lucy Knox, 2020
The House by the Cemetery, Lucio Fulci, 1981
The House of the Devil, Ti West, 2009
Hush . . . Hush, Sweet Charlotte, Robert Aldrich, 1964
I Am Another You, Nanfu Wang, 2017
Independent’s Day, Marina Zenovich, 1997
Inferno, Dario Argento, 1980
Invisible Essence: The Little Prince, Charles Officer, 2018*
The Invisible Man, James Whale, 1933
Island of Lost Souls, Erle C. Kenton, 1932
Isle of the Dead, Mark Robson, 1945
The Keep, Michael Mann, 1983
Lady in a Cage, Walter Grauman, 1964
The Lair of the White Worm, Ken Russell, 1988
Let the Right One In, Tomas Alfredson, 2008*
Life, Animated, Roger Ross Williams, 2016
The Living Dead Girl, Jean Rollin, 1982
Maelström, Denis Villeneuve, 2000
Matango, Ishiro Honda, 1963
The Mummy, Karl Freund, 1932
The Mysterians, Ishiro Honda, 1957
My Own Private Idaho, Gus Van Sant, 1991
Near Dark, Kathryn Bigelow, 1987
Next of Kin, Tony Williams, 1982
Nosferatu the Vampyre, Werner Herzog, 1979
Panic in the Streets, Elia Kazan, 1950
Performance, Donald Cammell and Nicolas Roeg, 1970
Prince of Darkness, John Carpenter, 1987
Q: The Winged Serpent, Larry Cohen, 1982
The Raven, Lew Landers, 1935
Road Games, Richard Franklin, 1981
Sierra, Sander Joon, 2022
Slumber Party Massacre, Amy Holden Jones, 1982
Society, Brian Yuzna, 1989
Songs for Drella, Ed Lachman, 1990
Sounder, Martin Ritt, 1972
Space Amoeba, Ishiro Honda, 1970
still/here, Vlad Feier, 2020
Strange Behavior, Michael Laughlin, 1981
The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Miss Osbourne, Walerian Borowczyk, 1981
Supergirl, Jessie Auritt, 1984
Superior, Erin Vassilopoulos, 2021
Superior, Erin Vassilopoulos, 2015
Tetsuo: The Iron Man, Shinya Tsukamoto, 1989
Thirst, Park Chan-wook, 2009
Vampire’s Kiss, Robert Bierman, 1989
Varan the Unbelievable, Ishiro Honda, 1958
The Velvet Vampire, Stephanie Rothman, 1971
Vive L’Amour, Tsai Ming-liang, 1994
Warsha, Dania Bdeir, 2022
White of the Eye, Donald Cammell, 1987
Who Is Bernard Tapie?, Marina Zenovich, 2001
Wolfen, Michael Wadleigh, 1981
The Wolf Man, George Waggner
*Available in the U.S. only

Supergirl year is wrong, looks like it will be the 2016 documentary.

I hate to complain in the face of such a long list, but Caught being US only is greatly displeasing

Sampling Criterion's 80s horror offerings, Roadgames is NOT a horror movie, and it's barely a murder mystery, with Stacy Keach driving his trailer truck through the Australian outback, talking to himself and his pet dingo and eventually picking up hitchhiker Jamie Lee Curtis. Filled with quirky touches, some which work, some which don't imo, but I liked it a lot. Supposedly one of Tarantino's favorite films.

I turned off Roadgames after about 10 minutes when Keach's character would not stop telling dumb jokes to himself.

I watched The Hidden, starring Kyle MacLachlan, from the 80s horror collection. The body-snatching alien villain has bizarrely underachieving goals for most of the movie; it's mainly interested in stealing Ferraris and blasting the kind of late 80s music that no one is nostalgic for. Then it decides it wants to possess the body of a Presidential candidate.

sounds sort of prescient when you put it like that

Yeah I have about that same recollection of The Hidden from seeing it years ago, don't really feel like revisiting.

RE: Roadgames it's Keach's rambling to himself and his dingo, the dumb jokes and also his quoting poetry, that I think may have inspired Tarantino's approach to dialogue. It's a long shaggy dog story (at 100 minutes it feels way longer) with a not great conclusion, but I found it interesting enough to finish.

I watched Dream Demon also out of the '80s horror collection — not great, but fairly entertaining and something of a novel story in that it mostly revolves around two women basically helping each other deal with assorted traumas. Some low-budget atmospheric visuals that felt very '80s music-video to me.

November 2022 additions finally announced:

499, Rodrigo Reyes, 2020
. . . After He Left, Athi Patra Ruga, 2008
Africa, the Jungle, Drums and Revolution, Suliman Mohamed Ibrahim Elnour, 1979
African Booty Scratcher, Nikyatu Jusu, 2007
Another Decade, Morgan Quaintance, 2018
Becket, Peter Glenville, 1964
Bestia, Hugo Covarrubias, 2021
Black Journal, “Alice Coltrane,” St. Clair Bourne, 1970
The Blue Dahlia, George Marshall, 1946*
Brazil, Terry Gilliam, 1985
The Breaking Point, Michael Curtiz, 1950
Call Northside 777, Henry Hathaway, 1948
A Camel, Ibrahim Shaddad, 1981
Censor of Dreams, Léo Berne and Raphaël Rodriguez, 2021
Cry of the City, Robert Siodmak, 1948
The Cry of Jazz, Edward Bland, 1959
CzechMate: In Search of Jiří Menzel, Shivendra Singh Dungarpur, 2018
The Dark Corner, Henry Hathaway, 1946
The Daughter of Dawn, Norbert A. Myles, 1920
Dazed Flesh, Grace Passô and Ricardo Alves Jr, 2019
Dust Be My Destiny, Lewis Seiler, 1939
Fallen Angel, Wong Kar Wai, 1995
The Fallen Sparrow, Richard Wallace, 1943
Felicia’s Journey, Atom Egoyan, 1999*
The Flaming Lips Space Bubble Film, Blake Studdard and Wayne Coyne, 2022
Flowers, Nikyatu Jusu, 2016
Force of Evil, Abraham Polonsky, 1948*
Frantz Fanon: Black Skin, White Mask, Isaac Julien, 1995
Ghosts, André Novais Oliveira, 2010
The Glass Key, Stuart Heisler, 1942
Goodbye Jerome!, Chloé Farr, Gabrielle Selnet, and Adam Sillard, 2022
Gramercy Stories, Joyce Chopra, 2008
Happy Mother’s Day, Richard Leacock and Joyce Chopra, 1963
The House on Telegraph Hill, Robert Wise, 1951
Humoresque, Jean Negulesco, 1946
The Hunger, Tony Scott, 1983
Hunt for the Wilderpeople, Taika Waititi, 2016
Imagine the Sound, Ron Mann, 1981
Kiss of Death, Henry Hathaway, 1947
Les stances à Sophie, Moshé Mizrahi, 1971
Long Way Home, André Novais Oliveira, 2018
Martha Clarke Light & Dark: A Dancer’s Journal, Joyce Chopra, 1980
Milford Graves Full Mantis, Jake Meginsky, with Neil Young, 2018
Missing Time, Morgan Quaintance, 2019
Nũhũ yãgmũ yõg hãm: This Land Is Ours!, Isael Maxakali, Sueli Maxakali, Carolina Canguçu, and Roberto Romero, 2020
The Pied Piper, Jacques Demy, 1972
The Postman Always Rings Twice, Tay Garnett, 1946
Promises: Through Congress, Trevor Tweeten, 2021
Public Service Announcement, Athi Patra Ruga, 2014
Republic, Grace Passô, 2020
Rising Tones Cross, Ebba Jahn, 1985
Saturday’s Children, Vincent Sherman, 1940
Say Grace Before Drowning, Nikyatu Jusu, 2010
Seahorse: The Dad Who Gave Birth, Jeanie Finlay, 2019*
Suicide by Sunlight, Nikyatu Jusu, 2019
Sullivan’s Travels, Preston Sturges, 1941
Sun Ra: A Joyful Noise, Robert Mugge, 1980
Take Out, Sean Baker and Shih-Ching Tsou, 2004
Thieves’ Highway, Jules Dassin, 1949
This Gun for Hire, Frank Tuttle, 1942
Yãmĩyhex, the Women-Spirit, Sueli Maxakali, Isael Maxakali, 2019

Premiering November 15
American Movie, Chris Smith, 1999
An Education, Lone Scherfig, 2009
Animal Kingdom, David Michôd, 2010*
Another Year, Mike Leigh, 2010
The City of Lost Children, Marc Caro and Jean-Pierre Jeunet, 1995*
The Fog of War, Errol Morris, 2003
Footnote, Joseph Cedar, 2011
Grateful Dawg, Gillian Grisman, 2000
House of Flying Daggers, Zhang Yimou, 2004
The Illusionist, Sylvain Chomet, 2010
Incendies, Denis Villeneuve, 2010*
Junebug, Phil Morrison, 2005
L’enfant, Luc Dardenne and Jean-Pierre Dardenne, 2005
Last Orders, Fred Schepisi, 2001
The Lives of Others, Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, 2006
Nine Queens, Fabián Bielinsky, 2000
Offside, Jafar Panahi, 2006
Orlando, Sally Potter, 1992
Paprika, Satoshi Kon, 2006
Persepolis, Marjane Satrapi and Vincent Paronnaud, 2007
Pollock, Ed Harris, 2000
A Prophet, Jacques Audiard, 2009
Run Lola Run, Tom Tykwer, 1998
Searching for Sugar Man, Malik Bendjelloul, 2012
A Separation, Asghar Farhadi, 2011
Thumbsucker, Mike Mills, 2005
Volver, Pedro Almodóvar, 2006
The White Ribbon, Michael Haneke, 2009
Waltz with Bashir, Ari Folman, 2008*
Winged Migration, Jacques Perrin, Jacques Cluzaud, and Michel Debats, 2001

Premiering November 16
A Night of Knowing Nothing, Payal Kapadia, 2021

Premiering November 21
My Architect, Nathaniel Kahn, 2003

*Available in the U.S. only

must-watch in the 'free jazz' mini collection after "milford graves full mantis"?

ornette: made in america is good
space is the place is goofy but worth watching
fire music is skippable, too much talking and not enough music

CzechMate: In Search of Jiří Menzel, Shivendra Singh Dungarpur, 2018

this caught my eye on the app last night, nearly 8 hours long? anybody have experience with it?

December 2022 additions:

All the Crows in the World, Tang Yi, 2021
American Movie, Chris Smith, 1999
April and the Extraordinary World, Christian Desmares and Franck Ekinci, 2015*
Artaud Double Bill, Atom Egoyan, 2007*
The Awful Truth, Leo McCarey, 1937
Bad Night for the Blues, Chris Shepherd, 2010
Ball of Fire, Howard Hawks, 1941
The Big Bad Fox and Other Tales, Benjamin Renner and Patrick Imbert, 2017
Bluebeard’s Eighth Wife, Ernst Lubitsch, 1938
The Broker, Azadi Moghadam, 2018
Celluloid Man, Shivendra Singh Dungarpur, 2012
Christine, John Carpenter, 1983
Day of the Outlaw, André de Toth, 1959
Diamantino, Gabriel Abrantes and Daniel Schmidt, 2018*
Easy Living, Mitchell Leisen, 1937
En passant, Atom Egoyan, 1991*
The Far Country, Anthony Mann, 1954
Freedom Fields, Naziha Arebi, 2018
The Girls, Mai Zetterling, 1968
The Goalie’s Anxiety at the Penalty Kick, Wim Wenders, 1972
The Great Silence, Sergio Corbucci, 1968
Gregory’s Girl, Bill Forsyth, 1980
Hail the Conquering Hero, Preston Sturges, 1944
The Headhunter’s Daughter, Don Josephus Raphael Eblahan, 2022
Here the Seats Are Vacant, Shiva Sanjari, 2016
His Girl Friday, Howard Hawks, 1940
Holiday, George Cukor, 1938
Infinite Football, Corneliu Porumboiu, 2018
It Happened One Night, Frank Capra, 1934
It Happens Every Spring, Lloyd Bacon, 1949
The Lady Eve, Preston Sturges, 1941
Little Big Man, Arthur Penn, 1970
Love Is News, Tay Garnett, 1937
Loving Couples, Mai Zetterling, 1964
McCabe & Mrs. Miller, Robert Altman, 1971
Me and My Gal, Raoul Walsh, 1932
Midnight, Mitchell Leisen, 1939
Miracle of Morgan’s Creek, Preston Sturges, 1944
Mirage, Szabolcs Hajdu, 2014
The More the Merrier, George Stevens, 1943
Murder, He Says, George Marshall, 1945
My Man Godfrey, Gregory La Cava, 1936
Night Games, Mai Zetterling, 1966
The Palm Beach Story, Preston Sturges, 1942
Peep Show, Atom Egoyan, 1981*
Platform, Sahar Mosayebi, 2021
Poetry, Lee Chang-dong, 2010
Radiograph of a Family, Firouzeh Khosravani, 2020
Ravenous, Antonia Bird, 1999
Rhubarb, Arthur Lubin, 1951
Ride the High Country, Sam Peckinpah, 1962
The Second Game, Corneliu Porumboiu, 2014
The Secret of Convict Lake, Michael Gordon, 1951
Shaolin Soccer, Stephen Chow, 2001
Spettacolo, Jeff Malmberg and Chris Shellen, 2017
Tattoo, Farhad Delaram, 2019
Theodora Goes Wild, Richard Boleslawski, 1936
Three Wishes for Cinderella, Václav Vorlíček, 1973
Tootsie, Sydney Pollack, 1982
Track of the Cat, William A. Wellman, 1954
Trouble in Paradise, Ernst Lubitsch, 1932
Twentieth Century, Howard Hawks, 1934
The White Wall, Stig Björkman, 1975
The Wild North, Andrew Marton, 1952
You Never Can Tell, Lou Breslow, 1951
Premiering December 5
Marx Can Wait, Marco Bellocchio, 2021
Premiering December 12
Cane Fire, Anthony Banua-Simon, 2020
Premiering December 14
Clara sola, Nathalie Álvarez Mesén, 2021
*Available in the U.S. only

Features, bundles, departments, etc: https://criterioncast.com/news/december-2022-programming-on-the-criterion-channel-announced

Stoked for the Mai Zetterling stuff!

Finally caught Night Games in a theatrical screening this year and it is quite remarkable; did not disappoint.

Re Mitchell Leisen: Easy Living has a Sturges script, I believe, don’t remember if I ever saw. Midnight I remembering enjoying, was it a Wilder script?