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my fellow liberal cucktards and white-genocide lesbians! the deplorables have risen, and what are we gonna do about it?

cf men's rights thread, that's racist thread, batshit cartoons thread, donald trump thread etc

fwiw https://www.rt.com/viral/361510-alt-right-cheat-sheet-racist/

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:13 (two years ago) link

feel free to use 'hitlers' and 'deplorables' interchangeably itt

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:17 (two years ago) link

"Hitlers" gives them the power they want. We don't want any of these people to start the Siege of Leningrad.

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:23 (two years ago) link

what can they really besiege though, it'll be shit like Green Room from here on out, unless they seize power of a whole country (ahem)

actually Green Room feels like the first film of the resistance to this shit

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:41 (two years ago) link

Ressentiment can tear a society apart. Absurd as these cuckmasters seem, I don't feel sanguine about the threat they pose.
Con

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:52 (two years ago) link

how are they alt though?

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:00 (two years ago) link

They have the courage to actually say what everyone's thinking, unlike what-used-to-be-mainstream PC cuckservatives?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:13 (two years ago) link

They use new forms of dehumanizing slang -- not just old fashioned slurs -- which is pretty alt.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:38 (two years ago) link

what gets me is - what is their culture? what is their art? what do they even like?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:49 (two years ago) link

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement. Their culture is on /b/ and maybe idk theredpill. It's memes, vidya, anime, gore pics, creepypasta, cruel lolz, cringe, and tons and tons of pr0n.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:57 (two years ago) link

a marginal movement

Um, isn't their candidate the Republican nominee for President?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:02 (two years ago) link

do they not like music, to paraphrase achewood

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:05 (two years ago) link

I mean, it does feel like the logical endpoint of 4chan, but warped to such a putridity of feeling that I fail to see how these creatures can function in anything approaching society

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:07 (two years ago) link

also, have Anonymous declared war on them yet, or is there overlap?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (two years ago) link

you're so warped by being a cucked sjw that you can't see that their vision of society is the right one, maaaaan

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (two years ago) link

They have a music board you can check out. They like vaporwave. Re Trump he is their candidate but not exclusively idk it's hard to gauge.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (two years ago) link

i think there is some overlap

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (two years ago) link

there's an alt right sketch comedy show on Adult Swim now, Million Dollar Extreme, created by this guy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca5Sg3NUsAENTlG.png

larry appleton, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:12 (two years ago) link

their legitimation on adult swim is deeply unsurprising

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:13 (two years ago) link

their liking of vaporwave makes a weird sort of sense. they are the death eaters

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:14 (two years ago) link

i'd like to take this opportunity to big up my favourite alt-right dipshit davis aurini: ostentatious whisky drinker, skull enthusiast, publicly-funded kung-fu movie auteur, and three-time winner of the international skeleton from superted lookalike contest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ix1Xr8QHpRw/maxresdefault.jpg

just look at his lil' face!

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:15 (two years ago) link

These guys are just adorable

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:17 (two years ago) link

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:18 (two years ago) link

i've been watching million dollar extreme. sometimes it is really really funny, and sometimes it is ideologically okay (like the sketch about our shitty drinking water) and then they just say something openly misogynistic or racist or the sketch is just brutally uncomfortable. idk i'd like to discuss it but i don't have much to say. it's clearly unique, and sam is clearly v smart + funny, and also i'm disappointed in adult swim for giving them a platform.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:19 (two years ago) link

i don't think fedora is entirely linked. there may be associations/links between fedora/brony culture and the alt-right but generally speaking i think fedoras are more likely to show up in cringe threads than be worn by hardcore white supremacists.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (two years ago) link

where is the alt-right music board?

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (two years ago) link

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

― imago, Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:18 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (two years ago) link

xxp counterpoint:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t4AcWFogD60/maxresdefault.jpg

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (two years ago) link

http://boards.4chan.org/mu/

nb that i don't think 4chan is 100% alt-right but i think broadly speaking a lot of the aesthetic comes from there and there's lots of crossover. i wouldn't consider st0rmfr4nt alt-right - that seems more traditionally racist to me.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:22 (two years ago) link

some of these shitheads are throwing a pro-trump art festival in my borough, i read on the hardening thread.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:28 (two years ago) link

I looked at that /mu/ for one minute and some poor schmuck started a thread about how Esperanza Spalding, a black female artist, is really good (which she is) - devoured in seconds

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:34 (two years ago) link

I don't think Million Dollar Extreme is really a part of this

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:37 (two years ago) link

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:47 (two years ago) link

MDE absolutely is

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:48 (two years ago) link

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement.

Well, maybe I'm misunderstanding alt-right. I thought it referred to e.g. Breitbart/Milo Yiannopoulos, who I thought are still more or less pro- a lot of those things as well as being more blatantly racist and nationalistic than, say, Mitt Romney.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:51 (two years ago) link

i would just like to point out that i wrote about these guys 4 years ago

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:52 (two years ago) link

Milo isn't alt-right. He's an alt-right wannabe / fellow traveller.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:53 (two years ago) link

Oh, I thought he was a quasi-leader. I'm probably on way the wrong page, then.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (two years ago) link

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

my impression of MDE is that it's an elaborate troll on anything and everything, I'm guessing the alt-right probably has claimed him but I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (two years ago) link

politics for various alt-righters probably differ but on those topics i'd guess the majority are pro-protectionism anti-immigration agnostic on Christian morality (and in many cases ideologically opposed to religious faith) isolationist or in some cases extreme hawkism (drop nukes on the middle east). and of course the central component is defending the race against #whitegenocide. also jew-hating.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:55 (two years ago) link

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:56 (two years ago) link

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:57 (two years ago) link

i think the key attribute marking the "alt" (a p fraught and dumb prefix imo) is determinism.

xp

I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

― frogbs, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god knows if i can or want to find it again but there are forum posts out there by him that are the now-standard post-libertarian line, like: "i used to be apolitical and in favor of freedom, but now i see that america has been ruined since the civil rights movement and feminism, it needs to be purged" etc

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (two years ago) link

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are johnny come latelies

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (two years ago) link

it's really not. it jumped on the alt-right bandwagon thru Milo but he started as just an observer and tho the alt-right will pretty much accept any celebrity legitimacy they can get, he remains a controversial figure in the movement (bc he's gay and jewish). he wrote this around the time breitbart began embracing the alt-right: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/ - where you can see that he's interacting w/ them more as an anthropologist than a participant. xxp

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:59 (two years ago) link

didn't realise that Yiannopoulos had jewish heritage

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/203888/donald-trumps-little-boy

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:05 (two years ago) link

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

― Mordy, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:56 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I never really followed the persona behind it too closely. I read a lot of that stuff as a parody of the alt-right, though I suppose at this point, what's the difference

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:06 (two years ago) link

goole you always amaze/scare me with your knowledge of this stuff

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:12 (two years ago) link

Dark Enlightenment feeds into this, right?

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (two years ago) link

i guess my knowledge of this stuff is just unsurprising :p

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (two years ago) link

hahahahaha that's so good

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:05 (one month ago) link

I'm not racist / you're the one who's racist

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:41 (one month ago) link

All I wanted was a Pepe

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:50 (one month ago) link

this made my day thx

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 9 July 2019 23:10 (one month ago) link

lol OL

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 02:49 (one month ago) link

this is the best thing

maura, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 16:15 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

alt-right teenage serial killers in western canada

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/teens-manhunt-homicides-mcleod-schmegelsky-1.5222515

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:05 (four weeks ago) link

Goddamn Pewdiepie lookin' motherfucker.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:09 (four weeks ago) link

Surprise, surprise.

pomenitul, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:09 (four weeks ago) link

Further proof that we need to secure our borders by rejecting all Muslim applicants, amirite?

pomenitul, Thursday, 25 July 2019 19:13 (four weeks ago) link

i couldnt finish this fucking article. its basically a hagiography of their inherent goodness. fuck this nazi apologia.

Carisis LaVerted (m bison), Thursday, 25 July 2019 20:55 (four weeks ago) link

"They're non-violent, they're good people. Never got in trouble or anything."

what the fuck

maura, Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:42 (four weeks ago) link

(thinking face emoji)

Vape Store (crüt), Thursday, 25 July 2019 21:43 (four weeks ago) link

jesus that's awful.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Thursday, 25 July 2019 22:03 (four weeks ago) link

They were totally normal nice people until video games turned them into serial killers.

beard papa, Friday, 26 July 2019 17:16 (three weeks ago) link

it’s only the first 3 times they murdered someone

Vape Store (crüt), Friday, 26 July 2019 17:27 (three weeks ago) link

oh man

BitMitigate is owned by another company, Epik, a firm based outside Redmond, Wash., that bought the service earlier this year. Epik, a hosting and domain-name firm that gained notoriety after backing the far-right site Gab, has loudly criticized what it calls “digital censorship” and “organized efforts to de-platform and incapacitate practitioners of lawful free speech.”

Epik chief Rob Monster wrote Monday that the company had not solicited 8chan’s business but was now helping manage some of the site’s technical needs and was further evaluating whether to offer it other services, including a defense against cyberattacks."We enter into a slippery slope when we start to limit speech that makes us uncomfortable,” Monster wrote.

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 August 2019 23:10 (two weeks ago) link

the guy keeping 8chan online is named ROB MONSTER

Οὖτις, Monday, 5 August 2019 23:11 (two weeks ago) link

Good news is that at least temporarily it also fucked BitMitigate, who got shut down by the people they were using for servers.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Monday, 5 August 2019 23:27 (two weeks ago) link

If I married that dude we would both be named Rob Monster-Hunt

rob, Tuesday, 6 August 2019 00:45 (two weeks ago) link

I wonder what country Andrew Anglin has fled to
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/457270-neo-nazi-website-operator-ordered-to-pay-725k-in-harassment

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 13 August 2019 18:33 (one week ago) link

I've read somewhere that he's probably still in the US.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 14 August 2019 07:03 (one week ago) link

that seems like a risky thing to have your lawyer lie about in court

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:32 (one week ago) link

Black writer in Seattle who writes about racism being targeted with false reports intended to get cops to kill her and/or her family.

I just got a phone call from the King County Sheriff's Office saying that there was a report of gunshots at my home.

My older son is there alone. I called him and woke him up. There were no gunshots.

These hateful white supremacists are trying to get my family killed.

— Ijeoma Oluo (@IjeomaOluo) August 14, 2019

JoeStork, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 23:30 (one week ago) link

posting this excellent summary of the Portland rally yesterday, I am so proud of that city and my state.

"Today’s white nationalist rally in Portland, Oregon was a complete rout.

The largely non-Portland (white nationalist) crowd was mostly abandoned by its leadership the night before. People arrived with no places to sleep and calls to cell phones went unreturned. This morning found hate group members without places to eat, water and access to restrooms. An increasing number of businesses (like the one pictured) were denying service.

The promised five hour hate rally lasted about 45 minutes; participants were forced to rally underneath a bridge and then had to beg police to escort them out (a very long walk) over (yet) another bridge. Rally leaders then quickly took to their cars to allegedly attend a BBQ that just happened to not be in Portland.

Other remnants of the rally were forced to walk around downtown Portland for nearly two hours as they searched for their cars. I heard at least two Portlanders give them wrong directions. Tired, thirst and walked out; people started to drift away in droves, leaving a dejected looking Joey Gibson (leader of Patriot Prayer) with an increasingly smaller and smaller crowd around him. Not getting the physical confrontation he sought and contemplating his growing civil and criminal legal woes, Joey was very subdued today.

After analysis?

The social pressure and evolving diverse and incredibly fun tactics of PopMob; the seriousness of the Portland Police; and the number of city, civic and business leaders mobilized seems to have taken serious steam out of the white nationalist/alt right protest.

It’s clear from the speeches and comments today that White nationalist/alt right leaders are wary of the increasing civil suits led by the Oregon Justice Resource Center and criminal liabilities they are facing from disrupting communities.

Really proud of Portland today. Super impressed, from the leadership in the streets to city hall. Folks will be back to political positioning and eating each other alive tomorrow, but hope everyone gives each other a small nod of respect tonight

You are an amazing community Portand and you showed up this month and it mattered. Community and leadership made this happen and you showed up with a lot of both. Goodnight from the Rose City. #OurCityOurHome"

sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 02:41 (three days ago) link

also a bunch of them parked in a Fred Meyer (Kroger) store lot and got towed, lol

sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 02:55 (three days ago) link

<raises hand>

Are the demographics of the pacific north west conspicuously 'whiter' than elsewhere in the US and is that likely part of reason for the fascist obsession with Portland?

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:09 (three days ago) link

"<raises hand>

Er, fuck, I mean, not like *that*

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:10 (three days ago) link

xp yes to the first, not sure about the second, I think it has to do more with Portland's "radical hotbed" reputation that makes it an inviting target. but the demographics definitely play a role. I mean, they once wanted to kick all the Catholics out of Oregon (along with every other non-WASP group of course).

sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:14 (three days ago) link

"they" being Oregon legislature, a long time ago

sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:14 (three days ago) link

it's kinda funny one of my best friends moved up to portland a couple of years ago and we were exchanging texts saturday night about how these dorks would never try something on this scale in nyc or philly or chicago etc

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:22 (three days ago) link

this is from the Intercept, so grain of salt, but it makes the case that yes, Portland's demographics appeal to white supremacist orgs for recruiting purposes: https://theintercept.com/2019/08/16/portland-far-right-rally/

rob, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:24 (three days ago) link

I would assume the point of going to Portland is that they want the story to be "leftist terrorists punched us" so they have to go where there's a large population of single young men with left politics and hope somebody takes the bait.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:26 (three days ago) link

these dorks would never try something on this scale in nyc or philly or chicago etc

They did it in DC a month ago! I think they'll go wherever they think they can gin up a fight and get on Fox News and thence to Trump's twitter feed. That's the goal.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:28 (three days ago) link

ah that's right! was it this big a deal though? i was thinking it was kind of poorly attended but might be misremembering.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:32 (three days ago) link

they want the story to be "leftist terrorists punched us"

they'll go wherever they think they can gin up a fight and get on Fox News and thence to Trump's twitter feed

both otm

sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:34 (three days ago) link

the straight pride parade in boston is coming up :/

maura, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:57 (three days ago) link

do these people know about Gay Shame parades? There should def be a Straight Shame parade...

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:58 (three days ago) link

pride was here a couple weeks ago and i had just stopped drinking for a bit and wasn't quite ready to go out and be around other people partying, so i didn't go to a thing my gf and her friends were going to and stayed home and vaped weed and watched tarantino films. when i saw a couple of my buddies the next day and told them what i was doing the night before they said that was my "straight pride" night

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:13 (three days ago) link

enjoy living in prison w yr aryan brotherhood buddies:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/neo-nazi-james-fields-life-181119153.html

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 20:41 (two days ago) link

victim impact statements are probably bad not good but I'm also glad someone got to call him scum from the stand

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:03 (two days ago) link

dude probably wishes he were a cop when he ran those people over right now tho

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:04 (two days ago) link

why do you think victim impact statements are bad?

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:09 (two days ago) link

The Bryan Stevenson book 'Just Mercy' has a section on victims' rights. They've led to a disparity of sentencing between races and classes. I haven't read the NYer article yet but it seems to go into that.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 15:48 (yesterday) link

see also: mandatory minimum sentencing, largely pushed by these groups iirc

sleeve, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:00 (yesterday) link

Kind of related - mistrial was declared last week in the case of the alt-right shitheads who shot a protester outside a Milo appearance in Seattle, apparently a minority on the jury were of similar mind to the defendants. However a big factor was that the victim refused to testify due to not believing in a punitive justice system, afaik he just wanted to meet with the defendants but I don’t think they agreed.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:15 (yesterday) link

I bought a copy of Hasbro's mean-spirited and woefully ill-informed "MONOPOLY: SOCIALISM" board game so you don't have to - a thread 1/ pic.twitter.com/YhZWDjkAnj

— Nick Kapur (@nick_kapur) August 21, 2019

imagine the kind of smug cunt who designed this shit

gyac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 13:26 (seven hours ago) link


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