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my fellow liberal cucktards and white-genocide lesbians! the deplorables have risen, and what are we gonna do about it?

cf men's rights thread, that's racist thread, batshit cartoons thread, donald trump thread etc

fwiw https://www.rt.com/viral/361510-alt-right-cheat-sheet-racist/

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:13 (three years ago) link

feel free to use 'hitlers' and 'deplorables' interchangeably itt

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:17 (three years ago) link

"Hitlers" gives them the power they want. We don't want any of these people to start the Siege of Leningrad.

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:23 (three years ago) link

what can they really besiege though, it'll be shit like Green Room from here on out, unless they seize power of a whole country (ahem)

actually Green Room feels like the first film of the resistance to this shit

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:41 (three years ago) link

Ressentiment can tear a society apart. Absurd as these cuckmasters seem, I don't feel sanguine about the threat they pose.
Con

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:52 (three years ago) link

how are they alt though?

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:00 (three years ago) link

They have the courage to actually say what everyone's thinking, unlike what-used-to-be-mainstream PC cuckservatives?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:13 (three years ago) link

They use new forms of dehumanizing slang -- not just old fashioned slurs -- which is pretty alt.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:38 (three years ago) link

what gets me is - what is their culture? what is their art? what do they even like?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:49 (three years ago) link

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement. Their culture is on /b/ and maybe idk theredpill. It's memes, vidya, anime, gore pics, creepypasta, cruel lolz, cringe, and tons and tons of pr0n.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:57 (three years ago) link

a marginal movement

Um, isn't their candidate the Republican nominee for President?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:02 (three years ago) link

do they not like music, to paraphrase achewood

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:05 (three years ago) link

I mean, it does feel like the logical endpoint of 4chan, but warped to such a putridity of feeling that I fail to see how these creatures can function in anything approaching society

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:07 (three years ago) link

also, have Anonymous declared war on them yet, or is there overlap?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (three years ago) link

you're so warped by being a cucked sjw that you can't see that their vision of society is the right one, maaaaan

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (three years ago) link

They have a music board you can check out. They like vaporwave. Re Trump he is their candidate but not exclusively idk it's hard to gauge.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (three years ago) link

i think there is some overlap

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (three years ago) link

there's an alt right sketch comedy show on Adult Swim now, Million Dollar Extreme, created by this guy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca5Sg3NUsAENTlG.png

larry appleton, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:12 (three years ago) link

their legitimation on adult swim is deeply unsurprising

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:13 (three years ago) link

their liking of vaporwave makes a weird sort of sense. they are the death eaters

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:14 (three years ago) link

i'd like to take this opportunity to big up my favourite alt-right dipshit davis aurini: ostentatious whisky drinker, skull enthusiast, publicly-funded kung-fu movie auteur, and three-time winner of the international skeleton from superted lookalike contest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ix1Xr8QHpRw/maxresdefault.jpg

just look at his lil' face!

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:15 (three years ago) link

These guys are just adorable

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:17 (three years ago) link

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:18 (three years ago) link

i've been watching million dollar extreme. sometimes it is really really funny, and sometimes it is ideologically okay (like the sketch about our shitty drinking water) and then they just say something openly misogynistic or racist or the sketch is just brutally uncomfortable. idk i'd like to discuss it but i don't have much to say. it's clearly unique, and sam is clearly v smart + funny, and also i'm disappointed in adult swim for giving them a platform.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:19 (three years ago) link

i don't think fedora is entirely linked. there may be associations/links between fedora/brony culture and the alt-right but generally speaking i think fedoras are more likely to show up in cringe threads than be worn by hardcore white supremacists.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (three years ago) link

where is the alt-right music board?

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (three years ago) link

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

― imago, Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:18 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (three years ago) link

xxp counterpoint:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t4AcWFogD60/maxresdefault.jpg

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (three years ago) link

http://boards.4chan.org/mu/

nb that i don't think 4chan is 100% alt-right but i think broadly speaking a lot of the aesthetic comes from there and there's lots of crossover. i wouldn't consider st0rmfr4nt alt-right - that seems more traditionally racist to me.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:22 (three years ago) link

some of these shitheads are throwing a pro-trump art festival in my borough, i read on the hardening thread.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:28 (three years ago) link

I looked at that /mu/ for one minute and some poor schmuck started a thread about how Esperanza Spalding, a black female artist, is really good (which she is) - devoured in seconds

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:34 (three years ago) link

I don't think Million Dollar Extreme is really a part of this

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:37 (three years ago) link

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:47 (three years ago) link

MDE absolutely is

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:48 (three years ago) link

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement.

Well, maybe I'm misunderstanding alt-right. I thought it referred to e.g. Breitbart/Milo Yiannopoulos, who I thought are still more or less pro- a lot of those things as well as being more blatantly racist and nationalistic than, say, Mitt Romney.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:51 (three years ago) link

i would just like to point out that i wrote about these guys 4 years ago

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:52 (three years ago) link

Milo isn't alt-right. He's an alt-right wannabe / fellow traveller.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:53 (three years ago) link

Oh, I thought he was a quasi-leader. I'm probably on way the wrong page, then.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (three years ago) link

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

my impression of MDE is that it's an elaborate troll on anything and everything, I'm guessing the alt-right probably has claimed him but I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (three years ago) link

politics for various alt-righters probably differ but on those topics i'd guess the majority are pro-protectionism anti-immigration agnostic on Christian morality (and in many cases ideologically opposed to religious faith) isolationist or in some cases extreme hawkism (drop nukes on the middle east). and of course the central component is defending the race against #whitegenocide. also jew-hating.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:55 (three years ago) link

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:56 (three years ago) link

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:57 (three years ago) link

i think the key attribute marking the "alt" (a p fraught and dumb prefix imo) is determinism.

xp

I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

― frogbs, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god knows if i can or want to find it again but there are forum posts out there by him that are the now-standard post-libertarian line, like: "i used to be apolitical and in favor of freedom, but now i see that america has been ruined since the civil rights movement and feminism, it needs to be purged" etc

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (three years ago) link

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are johnny come latelies

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (three years ago) link

it's really not. it jumped on the alt-right bandwagon thru Milo but he started as just an observer and tho the alt-right will pretty much accept any celebrity legitimacy they can get, he remains a controversial figure in the movement (bc he's gay and jewish). he wrote this around the time breitbart began embracing the alt-right: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/ - where you can see that he's interacting w/ them more as an anthropologist than a participant. xxp

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:59 (three years ago) link

didn't realise that Yiannopoulos had jewish heritage

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/203888/donald-trumps-little-boy

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:05 (three years ago) link

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

― Mordy, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:56 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I never really followed the persona behind it too closely. I read a lot of that stuff as a parody of the alt-right, though I suppose at this point, what's the difference

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:06 (three years ago) link

goole you always amaze/scare me with your knowledge of this stuff

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:12 (three years ago) link

Dark Enlightenment feeds into this, right?

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (three years ago) link

i guess my knowledge of this stuff is just unsurprising :p

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (three years ago) link

"<raises hand>

Er, fuck, I mean, not like *that*

Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:10 (one month ago) link

xp yes to the first, not sure about the second, I think it has to do more with Portland's "radical hotbed" reputation that makes it an inviting target. but the demographics definitely play a role. I mean, they once wanted to kick all the Catholics out of Oregon (along with every other non-WASP group of course).

sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:14 (one month ago) link

"they" being Oregon legislature, a long time ago

sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:14 (one month ago) link

it's kinda funny one of my best friends moved up to portland a couple of years ago and we were exchanging texts saturday night about how these dorks would never try something on this scale in nyc or philly or chicago etc

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:22 (one month ago) link

this is from the Intercept, so grain of salt, but it makes the case that yes, Portland's demographics appeal to white supremacist orgs for recruiting purposes: https://theintercept.com/2019/08/16/portland-far-right-rally/

rob, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:24 (one month ago) link

I would assume the point of going to Portland is that they want the story to be "leftist terrorists punched us" so they have to go where there's a large population of single young men with left politics and hope somebody takes the bait.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:26 (one month ago) link

these dorks would never try something on this scale in nyc or philly or chicago etc

They did it in DC a month ago! I think they'll go wherever they think they can gin up a fight and get on Fox News and thence to Trump's twitter feed. That's the goal.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:28 (one month ago) link

ah that's right! was it this big a deal though? i was thinking it was kind of poorly attended but might be misremembering.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:32 (one month ago) link

they want the story to be "leftist terrorists punched us"

they'll go wherever they think they can gin up a fight and get on Fox News and thence to Trump's twitter feed

both otm

sleeve, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:34 (one month ago) link

the straight pride parade in boston is coming up :/

maura, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:57 (one month ago) link

do these people know about Gay Shame parades? There should def be a Straight Shame parade...

Οὖτις, Monday, 19 August 2019 15:58 (one month ago) link

pride was here a couple weeks ago and i had just stopped drinking for a bit and wasn't quite ready to go out and be around other people partying, so i didn't go to a thing my gf and her friends were going to and stayed home and vaped weed and watched tarantino films. when i saw a couple of my buddies the next day and told them what i was doing the night before they said that was my "straight pride" night

bookmarkflaglink (jim in vancouver), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:13 (one month ago) link

enjoy living in prison w yr aryan brotherhood buddies:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/neo-nazi-james-fields-life-181119153.html

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 20:41 (one month ago) link

victim impact statements are probably bad not good but I'm also glad someone got to call him scum from the stand

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:03 (one month ago) link

dude probably wishes he were a cop when he ran those people over right now tho

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:04 (one month ago) link

why do you think victim impact statements are bad?

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 20 August 2019 23:09 (one month ago) link

The Bryan Stevenson book 'Just Mercy' has a section on victims' rights. They've led to a disparity of sentencing between races and classes. I haven't read the NYer article yet but it seems to go into that.

adam the (abanana), Wednesday, 21 August 2019 15:48 (one month ago) link

see also: mandatory minimum sentencing, largely pushed by these groups iirc

sleeve, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:00 (one month ago) link

Kind of related - mistrial was declared last week in the case of the alt-right shitheads who shot a protester outside a Milo appearance in Seattle, apparently a minority on the jury were of similar mind to the defendants. However a big factor was that the victim refused to testify due to not believing in a punitive justice system, afaik he just wanted to meet with the defendants but I don’t think they agreed.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 16:15 (one month ago) link

I bought a copy of Hasbro's mean-spirited and woefully ill-informed "MONOPOLY: SOCIALISM" board game so you don't have to - a thread 1/ pic.twitter.com/YhZWDjkAnj

— Nick Kapur (@nick_kapur) August 21, 2019

imagine the kind of smug cunt who designed this shit

gyac, Thursday, 22 August 2019 13:26 (one month ago) link

that Monopoly thing is even more ironic considering the game was originally designed to satirize landlords & capitalism, then was stolen by someone else and turned into a highly profitable board game, none of which made its way to the original creator. capitalism at its finest.

frogbs, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:50 (one month ago) link

That Portland Mercury article is actually getting results: Andy Ngo has apparently been disowned by phrenologist site Quillette, where he was on the masthead until a couple of hours ago.

Andy Ngo just removed Quillette from his bio...

... the same day it was revealed that Ngo and the violent far-right group Patriot Prayer had an "understanding" that he would protect them and they'd protect him.

(h/t @Avi_Bueno) pic.twitter.com/WDJRST8EYJ

— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) August 27, 2019

All traces of far-right provoceateur Andy Ngo have been wiped from the far-right phrenology website, Quillette. He doesn’t even have Quillette in his bio anymore. Rumor has it that Andy was fired for paling around with the white nationalist group Patriot Prayer. pic.twitter.com/lo1yC34WfA

— Nathan Bernard (@nathanTbernard) August 27, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 01:57 (one month ago) link

Glorious

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:26 (one month ago) link

Monopoly is also much like capitalism in that it sucks

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:27 (one month ago) link

great news

sleeve, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 03:49 (one month ago) link

Do the phrenologists think patriot prayer are too extreme or not extreme enough? Not enough head bearings or head beating getting the lumps to appear in the wrong places?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 07:53 (one month ago) link

Quillette's editor is claiming that he actually dropped out of service because of his oh-so-traumatic brain injury, but she would.

Simon H., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 08:04 (one month ago) link

she was the one that published the fake DSA takedown piece a couple of weeks ago right?

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:46 (one month ago) link

he only did about 15 live interviews after that brain injury, let the man rest

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 14:48 (one month ago) link

Re: that Ijeoma Oluo about her house getting swatted she wrote something on it, link below. (she wrote one of my favorite pieces from 2018)

https://medium.com/@IjeomaOluo/the-thing-about-safety-a3e4cac767c2

Yerac, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:43 (one month ago) link

argh
that Ijeoma Oluo tweet from above about her house getting swatted... that should've said.

Yerac, Friday, 30 August 2019 15:43 (one month ago) link

There's saying the quiet part out loud, and then there's this fucknut (Modesto, CA):

white supremacist tryna form a straight pride parade accidentally lets truth slip at city council meeting pic.twitter.com/c8fWtOwORT

— bhad phag (@hebaddie) September 1, 2019

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 2 September 2019 17:45 (one month ago) link

old video, but still refreshingly honest.

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 2 September 2019 21:28 (one month ago) link

Milo reveals just how much the far right are struggling after being deplatformed from the main social media sites. pic.twitter.com/oB3T94J89B

— Roanna 🧙‍♀️ (@witchofpeace) September 9, 2019

🎻

gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 13:44 (one month ago) link

looooooooool

pic.twitter.com/7CGV3qxfMH

— Fintan Hennessy (@FintanHennessy) September 9, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 9 September 2019 13:46 (one month ago) link

rip big man, heaven needed another small businessman crushed by the free market

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 13:48 (one month ago) link

looool

honestly i don't get their beef w Gab. too many "teen racists", you say? yeah no shit homeboy. it's operating exactly as an online FREEEZZE PEACH zone should be expected to.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:40 (one month ago) link

Similar thing with Rave Dubin, going to The Blaze(?) whatever that is, so he can have free speech and also remove the trolls and their right to free speech

anvil, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:42 (one month ago) link

going to brag a little here and divulge that I Was Banned from Gab last year for (probably) relentlessly trolling Torba, his mother, and Ben Garrison. so much for the tolerant 'free speech warrior' right i guess.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:43 (one month ago) link

thank u for yr service

don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:35 (one month ago) link

it was my honor to serve. telling Andrew Torba I was going to call the cops if he didn't wash his dick was my viet nam.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 9 September 2019 15:42 (one month ago) link

A really good article on Andy Ngo.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 16:57 (one month ago) link

Have you been waiting for a 1500 word treatise from the Claremont Institute making the intellectual case for calling David French a cuck? pic.twitter.com/tqM9HuJNkm

— Adrenochrome Harvester (@ClenchedFisk) September 13, 2019

j., Saturday, 14 September 2019 04:37 (one month ago) link

Downtown Portland in the rain, some fun is happening against the Patriot Prayer types. Thread here:

A satanic ritual (?!) is happening in the square now. I think this is a strategy to distract from Patriot Prayer’s march, in which case: mission accomplished. pic.twitter.com/OIsVxmdDxG

— Blair Stenvick (@BlairStenvick) September 15, 2019

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 16 September 2019 02:15 (one month ago) link

Milo in a crowd of fully disguised and anonymous people sounds like a bad combo.

Milo Yiannopoulos is a disgraced right wing troll who thrives on attention. This warning will be the only mention of him here. Do not allow him into MFF. Do not give him attention. Do not talk about him. Do not spread anything he says. He turns kids into Nazis. Stay away. pic.twitter.com/F87DU3YLls

— Furry Takes (@SpicyFurryTakes) September 15, 2019

... (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2019 03:05 (one month ago) link

Aaaand he’s out

I just want everyone to understand that the furry community kicked Milo Yiannopoulos to the curb a million times faster that the mainstream GOP pundit class ever dreamed of doinghttps://t.co/cX4BAggul7

— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) September 16, 2019

... (Eazy), Monday, 16 September 2019 22:15 (one month ago) link

The FBI has arrested a member of U.S. Army who allegedly discussed plans to bomb a major U.S. news network, discussed traveling to Ukraine to fight with violent far-right group, and allegedly distributed info online on how to build bombs. He also allegedly mentioned @BetoORourke.

— Mike Levine (@MLevineReports) September 23, 2019

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Monday, 23 September 2019 17:04 (three weeks ago) link


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