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my fellow liberal cucktards and white-genocide lesbians! the deplorables have risen, and what are we gonna do about it?

cf men's rights thread, that's racist thread, batshit cartoons thread, donald trump thread etc

fwiw https://www.rt.com/viral/361510-alt-right-cheat-sheet-racist/

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:13 (one year ago) Permalink

feel free to use 'hitlers' and 'deplorables' interchangeably itt

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:17 (one year ago) Permalink

"Hitlers" gives them the power they want. We don't want any of these people to start the Siege of Leningrad.

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:23 (one year ago) Permalink

what can they really besiege though, it'll be shit like Green Room from here on out, unless they seize power of a whole country (ahem)

actually Green Room feels like the first film of the resistance to this shit

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:41 (one year ago) Permalink

Ressentiment can tear a society apart. Absurd as these cuckmasters seem, I don't feel sanguine about the threat they pose.
Con

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:52 (one year ago) Permalink

how are they alt though?

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:00 (one year ago) Permalink

They have the courage to actually say what everyone's thinking, unlike what-used-to-be-mainstream PC cuckservatives?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:13 (one year ago) Permalink

They use new forms of dehumanizing slang -- not just old fashioned slurs -- which is pretty alt.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:38 (one year ago) Permalink

what gets me is - what is their culture? what is their art? what do they even like?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:49 (one year ago) Permalink

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement. Their culture is on /b/ and maybe idk theredpill. It's memes, vidya, anime, gore pics, creepypasta, cruel lolz, cringe, and tons and tons of pr0n.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:57 (one year ago) Permalink

a marginal movement

Um, isn't their candidate the Republican nominee for President?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:02 (one year ago) Permalink

do they not like music, to paraphrase achewood

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:05 (one year ago) Permalink

I mean, it does feel like the logical endpoint of 4chan, but warped to such a putridity of feeling that I fail to see how these creatures can function in anything approaching society

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:07 (one year ago) Permalink

also, have Anonymous declared war on them yet, or is there overlap?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (one year ago) Permalink

you're so warped by being a cucked sjw that you can't see that their vision of society is the right one, maaaaan

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (one year ago) Permalink

They have a music board you can check out. They like vaporwave. Re Trump he is their candidate but not exclusively idk it's hard to gauge.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (one year ago) Permalink

i think there is some overlap

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (one year ago) Permalink

there's an alt right sketch comedy show on Adult Swim now, Million Dollar Extreme, created by this guy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca5Sg3NUsAENTlG.png

larry appleton, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:12 (one year ago) Permalink

their legitimation on adult swim is deeply unsurprising

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:13 (one year ago) Permalink

their liking of vaporwave makes a weird sort of sense. they are the death eaters

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:14 (one year ago) Permalink

i'd like to take this opportunity to big up my favourite alt-right dipshit davis aurini: ostentatious whisky drinker, skull enthusiast, publicly-funded kung-fu movie auteur, and three-time winner of the international skeleton from superted lookalike contest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ix1Xr8QHpRw/maxresdefault.jpg

just look at his lil' face!

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:15 (one year ago) Permalink

These guys are just adorable

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:17 (one year ago) Permalink

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:18 (one year ago) Permalink

i've been watching million dollar extreme. sometimes it is really really funny, and sometimes it is ideologically okay (like the sketch about our shitty drinking water) and then they just say something openly misogynistic or racist or the sketch is just brutally uncomfortable. idk i'd like to discuss it but i don't have much to say. it's clearly unique, and sam is clearly v smart + funny, and also i'm disappointed in adult swim for giving them a platform.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:19 (one year ago) Permalink

i don't think fedora is entirely linked. there may be associations/links between fedora/brony culture and the alt-right but generally speaking i think fedoras are more likely to show up in cringe threads than be worn by hardcore white supremacists.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (one year ago) Permalink

where is the alt-right music board?

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (one year ago) Permalink

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

― imago, Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:18 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (one year ago) Permalink

xxp counterpoint:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t4AcWFogD60/maxresdefault.jpg

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (one year ago) Permalink

http://boards.4chan.org/mu/

nb that i don't think 4chan is 100% alt-right but i think broadly speaking a lot of the aesthetic comes from there and there's lots of crossover. i wouldn't consider st0rmfr4nt alt-right - that seems more traditionally racist to me.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:22 (one year ago) Permalink

some of these shitheads are throwing a pro-trump art festival in my borough, i read on the hardening thread.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:28 (one year ago) Permalink

I looked at that /mu/ for one minute and some poor schmuck started a thread about how Esperanza Spalding, a black female artist, is really good (which she is) - devoured in seconds

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:34 (one year ago) Permalink

I don't think Million Dollar Extreme is really a part of this

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:37 (one year ago) Permalink

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:47 (one year ago) Permalink

MDE absolutely is

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:48 (one year ago) Permalink

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement.

Well, maybe I'm misunderstanding alt-right. I thought it referred to e.g. Breitbart/Milo Yiannopoulos, who I thought are still more or less pro- a lot of those things as well as being more blatantly racist and nationalistic than, say, Mitt Romney.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:51 (one year ago) Permalink

i would just like to point out that i wrote about these guys 4 years ago

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:52 (one year ago) Permalink

Milo isn't alt-right. He's an alt-right wannabe / fellow traveller.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:53 (one year ago) Permalink

Oh, I thought he was a quasi-leader. I'm probably on way the wrong page, then.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (one year ago) Permalink

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

my impression of MDE is that it's an elaborate troll on anything and everything, I'm guessing the alt-right probably has claimed him but I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (one year ago) Permalink

politics for various alt-righters probably differ but on those topics i'd guess the majority are pro-protectionism anti-immigration agnostic on Christian morality (and in many cases ideologically opposed to religious faith) isolationist or in some cases extreme hawkism (drop nukes on the middle east). and of course the central component is defending the race against #whitegenocide. also jew-hating.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:55 (one year ago) Permalink

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:56 (one year ago) Permalink

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:57 (one year ago) Permalink

i think the key attribute marking the "alt" (a p fraught and dumb prefix imo) is determinism.

xp

I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

― frogbs, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god knows if i can or want to find it again but there are forum posts out there by him that are the now-standard post-libertarian line, like: "i used to be apolitical and in favor of freedom, but now i see that america has been ruined since the civil rights movement and feminism, it needs to be purged" etc

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (one year ago) Permalink

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are johnny come latelies

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (one year ago) Permalink

it's really not. it jumped on the alt-right bandwagon thru Milo but he started as just an observer and tho the alt-right will pretty much accept any celebrity legitimacy they can get, he remains a controversial figure in the movement (bc he's gay and jewish). he wrote this around the time breitbart began embracing the alt-right: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/ - where you can see that he's interacting w/ them more as an anthropologist than a participant. xxp

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:59 (one year ago) Permalink

didn't realise that Yiannopoulos had jewish heritage

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/203888/donald-trumps-little-boy

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:05 (one year ago) Permalink

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

― Mordy, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:56 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I never really followed the persona behind it too closely. I read a lot of that stuff as a parody of the alt-right, though I suppose at this point, what's the difference

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:06 (one year ago) Permalink

goole you always amaze/scare me with your knowledge of this stuff

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:12 (one year ago) Permalink

Dark Enlightenment feeds into this, right?

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (one year ago) Permalink

i guess my knowledge of this stuff is just unsurprising :p

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (one year ago) Permalink

that article seems to be going viral, which I think is good

sleeve, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:43 (one week ago) Permalink

xp to daniel yea i did read the medium piece yesterday but yea i agree it seems like a stretch (based on that tweet thread) that alt-right gamergate dudes are responsible for this phenomena.....

marcos, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:43 (one week ago) Permalink

He’s writing it really poorly but I think he’s saying they’re taking advantage of/expanding on something already there, not totally responsible for it.

stet, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:35 (one week ago) Permalink

we need a separate thread for that Kids YouTube article. it's long because, unlike the button-pushing NYT article, he's trying to map out in detail the entire phenomenon so that it doesn't instantly snowball into hysterical descriptions like 'YouTube Child Abuse Phenomenon' but it doesn't take much for someone to already be tying it directly to gamergate

(says the fully grown adult who's just lost another 20 minutes to skimming through the highlights of 'Spiderman Frozen Elsa PREGNANT Hulk Vs Joker Venom Scream Face Killer Clown Fun SuperHeroes Prank', 2.5 million views)

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:57 (one week ago) Permalink

it would be a good idea for a separate thread, but for now it's been discussed here:

execrable children's programming pox

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:06 (one week ago) Permalink

the medium article is fascinating. Whether or not you think the author is hyping it all a little too much you can't say he's not thinking through how all of it works.

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:17 (one week ago) Permalink

yes I think it needs to be that long. the NYT article is punchy, but leads to panicked conclusions about 'child abuse' when the true issue is more akin to market failure.

friend has a executive pal at Nickelodeon who is obsessing about finding out who's behind Animals For Kids, I imagine they will get a show out of this. it's definitely not appropriate for unsupervised infants or babies or children but it is admittedly some kind of brilliant. it would be nice to at least know who the hell they are and what they're thinking. countless millions of combined views.

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:23 (one week ago) Permalink

way off the alt-right topic now but just to show how all these issues overlap, here are my two favorite pulls from each of the articles, look how easily they also apply to alt-right quandaries

NYT: Google has largely defended its errors by pointing to the enormous amount of content it hosts, including more than 400 hours of content uploaded to YouTube every minute.

Bridle: I have no idea how they can respond without shutting down the service itself, and most systems which resemble it. We have built a world which operates at scale, where human oversight is simply impossible, and no manner of inhuman oversight will counter most of the examples I’ve used in this essay.

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:24 (one week ago) Permalink

I reckon it is rare to find someone as well read as Richard Spencer and with his high level of education bringing in all sorts of ideas. He spoke no lies in that video. But there is no doubt in my mind it was done to spread more left wing lies. There ain't no arguments in that video. No siree Bob. Just running their yappers. It is a real shame he is driven by hate though.

The Sniper, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:26 (one week ago) Permalink

lol, oh you

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:28 (one week ago) Permalink

No sireeee Bob!

xpost to myself, it is definitely the case that Bridle did not link to the worst stuff. The worst stuff is easily found and is utterly, utterly nightmarish. I didn't even post this to the People-Making thread because I respect wanting to keep it positive there; the Animals For Kids stuff is demented / goony & still has a discernable moral center -- the second you go to something like 'Mickey Mouse Peeking Girlfriends Bathing Full Episodes! Minnie Mouse, Donald Duck New Cartoon', your youtube auto-cue will become a living nightmare and you don't want to do that on a shared family computer

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:36 (one week ago) Permalink

the h3h3 channel (not a fan) exposed SOME of the "toy" channels being created by the dudes that were doing the viral "it's just a prank bro" videos and then stopped making money on the monetization so they jumped over to where the $$$ is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBWf6Zvn0jQ

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:43 (one week ago) Permalink

Those seem to be very different things though, that's basically a public access cable as-was mentality applied to the genre of the autogenerated stuff. If there's recognisable humans making it, it's in a different category.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 00:17 (one week ago) Permalink

want to rescind my earlier comments about how this is more market failure than child abuse. I've seen some more Animals For Kids videos that can only be described as intentionally created to harm young children. the sections with guns. these people aren't getting a Nickelodeon show, hopefully they'll be exposed and held to account.

evidently on youtube kids until recently, millions of hits. profoundly upsetting. there's a very, very good reason Bridle didn't link. I'd unwatch if I could.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:09 (one week ago) Permalink

Whenever I think we’re not living in the future dystopia I imagined as a teen things like this remind me I just didn’t imagine it fully.

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:13 (one week ago) Permalink

I realize this is a legit digression but it bums me out that it is buried in this thread instead of on "execrable chlidren's programming" or perhaps a new thread for this new phenomenon as Milton suggested

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:17 (one week ago) Permalink

I would start it but I don't know what to call it

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:18 (one week ago) Permalink

Kideodrome

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:34 (one week ago) Permalink

that's pretty damn good

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 02:37 (one week ago) Permalink

holy shit that's good.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 03:50 (one week ago) Permalink

There was a small Nazi demo in Vancouver, WA today. Antifa showed up, some yelling was done, but that’s it apparently.

Tomorrow there’s an “It’s ok to be white” rally that I’ll be dropping into. Stay tuned. pic.twitter.com/YEay6C101u

— Mike Bivins (@itsmikebivins) November 13, 2017

Pic of the swastika on raul’s knife pic.twitter.com/UbLvbsVBUz

— Mike Bivins (@itsmikebivins) November 13, 2017

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 00:03 (five days ago) Permalink

Wear a belt and get your gig line sorted, nazi pig

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 00:10 (five days ago) Permalink

This whole brief thread is the best.

Baked Alaska got banned permanently from Twitter and now he's ranting outside a McDonald's that "Twitter cannot get away with this" pic.twitter.com/YXJ0vinzxI

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) November 15, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 November 2017 23:23 (four days ago) Permalink

"First they came for the Alt-Right, and I asked them if they needed help - because fuck the Alt-Right." - Sir Farts-a-Lot

— Sir Farts-a-Lot™ 🏴 (@NopeNotThisTime) September 12, 2017

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 16 November 2017 02:43 (three days ago) Permalink

Vic Berger offering up a nice summation of an onscreen breakdown

Are You There God? It's Me, Baked.

Former Twitter user @bakedalaska's In-N-Out Burger parking lot breakdown pic.twitter.com/BkIo9q3tK3

— Vic Berger IV (@VicBergerIV) November 16, 2017

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Thursday, 16 November 2017 19:43 (three days ago) Permalink

how the hell is Baked Alaska a real person

frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2017 20:35 (three days ago) Permalink

loooool, that berger clip is amazing

Karl Malone, Thursday, 16 November 2017 20:58 (three days ago) Permalink

I think in other times he’d just be some weird dude going on about timecube online or some shit. He just came along at the wrong time and gravitated to the wrong people

Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Thursday, 16 November 2017 21:01 (three days ago) Permalink

the stream the berger clip is editing from is something like 8 hours and 50 minutes long.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 November 2017 21:05 (three days ago) Permalink

America is so fucking doomed.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 16 November 2017 21:50 (three days ago) Permalink

How do any of these choads have the balls to believe they are the "master race"?

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Friday, 17 November 2017 12:50 (two days ago) Permalink

I do wonder.

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 17 November 2017 13:02 (two days ago) Permalink

mainly i’m just confused as to how a bearded maniac with a selfie stick yelling about twitter and harassing passersby about the same for longer than an entire working day didn’t get the cops called on him

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 13:35 (two days ago) Permalink

How do any of these choads have the balls to believe they are the "master race"?


the obvious, and probably correct, answer is that they are breathtakingly dumb

lest we forget:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/304/122/f52.jpg

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 13:37 (two days ago) Permalink

ahahaha

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 17 November 2017 13:42 (two days ago) Permalink

The irony being that in fact...he not only went to high school, a friend of mine was his classmate.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 13:42 (two days ago) Permalink

(Said friend has deeply enjoyed dude's implosion this week.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 November 2017 13:43 (two days ago) Permalink

the plot - quite literally - thickens

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 14:00 (two days ago) Permalink

they are breathtakingly dumb

otm

I want to change my display name (dan m), Friday, 17 November 2017 14:12 (two days ago) Permalink

idk I can get my head around the idiocy of someone like Laura Looner or Cernovich but Baked just seems so unreal to me

frogbs, Friday, 17 November 2017 14:42 (two days ago) Permalink

baked is mr laura loomer iirc - a real meeting of minds

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 14:44 (two days ago) Permalink

a match made in heil

frogbs, Friday, 17 November 2017 14:44 (two days ago) Permalink

That tweet exchange is all-time

een, Friday, 17 November 2017 14:44 (two days ago) Permalink

A cultural moment

een, Friday, 17 November 2017 14:45 (two days ago) Permalink

Time capsule shit

een, Friday, 17 November 2017 14:45 (two days ago) Permalink

even if baked was joking it’s still such a colossal self-own

wow. that was truly the minecraft of sex. (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 17 November 2017 14:46 (two days ago) Permalink

I assume this wasn't posted yet, it seems terrible

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/12/brotherhood-of-losers/544158/

It is often said that the left won the culture war and the right won the economic war. From the point of view of angry young white men, however, neither side has scored any victories. A generation ago, Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher championed the individual and the market, while liberals abandoned institutions like religion, national pride, even the nuclear family in favor of individual freedom. Together, right and left created a world in which a young person could invent his own identity and curate his own personal brand online, but also had dimmed hopes for enjoying what used to be considered the most basic elements of a decent life—marriage, a job, a house, a community. (Liberalism claimed that a village could raise a child, but never got around to building the village.)

actually it kinda did but there's just too many brown people in it for the subjects of your article with whom your fascination would be worrisome if it weren't so sad

El Tomboto, Sunday, 19 November 2017 01:19 (three minutes ago) Permalink


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