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my fellow liberal cucktards and white-genocide lesbians! the deplorables have risen, and what are we gonna do about it?

cf men's rights thread, that's racist thread, batshit cartoons thread, donald trump thread etc

fwiw https://www.rt.com/viral/361510-alt-right-cheat-sheet-racist/

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:13 (two years ago) Permalink

feel free to use 'hitlers' and 'deplorables' interchangeably itt

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:17 (two years ago) Permalink

"Hitlers" gives them the power they want. We don't want any of these people to start the Siege of Leningrad.

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:23 (two years ago) Permalink

what can they really besiege though, it'll be shit like Green Room from here on out, unless they seize power of a whole country (ahem)

actually Green Room feels like the first film of the resistance to this shit

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Ressentiment can tear a society apart. Absurd as these cuckmasters seem, I don't feel sanguine about the threat they pose.
Con

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:52 (two years ago) Permalink

how are they alt though?

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:00 (two years ago) Permalink

They have the courage to actually say what everyone's thinking, unlike what-used-to-be-mainstream PC cuckservatives?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:13 (two years ago) Permalink

They use new forms of dehumanizing slang -- not just old fashioned slurs -- which is pretty alt.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:38 (two years ago) Permalink

what gets me is - what is their culture? what is their art? what do they even like?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:49 (two years ago) Permalink

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement. Their culture is on /b/ and maybe idk theredpill. It's memes, vidya, anime, gore pics, creepypasta, cruel lolz, cringe, and tons and tons of pr0n.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:57 (two years ago) Permalink

a marginal movement

Um, isn't their candidate the Republican nominee for President?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:02 (two years ago) Permalink

do they not like music, to paraphrase achewood

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:05 (two years ago) Permalink

I mean, it does feel like the logical endpoint of 4chan, but warped to such a putridity of feeling that I fail to see how these creatures can function in anything approaching society

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:07 (two years ago) Permalink

also, have Anonymous declared war on them yet, or is there overlap?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (two years ago) Permalink

you're so warped by being a cucked sjw that you can't see that their vision of society is the right one, maaaaan

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (two years ago) Permalink

They have a music board you can check out. They like vaporwave. Re Trump he is their candidate but not exclusively idk it's hard to gauge.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (two years ago) Permalink

i think there is some overlap

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (two years ago) Permalink

there's an alt right sketch comedy show on Adult Swim now, Million Dollar Extreme, created by this guy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca5Sg3NUsAENTlG.png

larry appleton, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:12 (two years ago) Permalink

their legitimation on adult swim is deeply unsurprising

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:13 (two years ago) Permalink

their liking of vaporwave makes a weird sort of sense. they are the death eaters

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:14 (two years ago) Permalink

i'd like to take this opportunity to big up my favourite alt-right dipshit davis aurini: ostentatious whisky drinker, skull enthusiast, publicly-funded kung-fu movie auteur, and three-time winner of the international skeleton from superted lookalike contest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ix1Xr8QHpRw/maxresdefault.jpg

just look at his lil' face!

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:15 (two years ago) Permalink

These guys are just adorable

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:18 (two years ago) Permalink

i've been watching million dollar extreme. sometimes it is really really funny, and sometimes it is ideologically okay (like the sketch about our shitty drinking water) and then they just say something openly misogynistic or racist or the sketch is just brutally uncomfortable. idk i'd like to discuss it but i don't have much to say. it's clearly unique, and sam is clearly v smart + funny, and also i'm disappointed in adult swim for giving them a platform.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:19 (two years ago) Permalink

i don't think fedora is entirely linked. there may be associations/links between fedora/brony culture and the alt-right but generally speaking i think fedoras are more likely to show up in cringe threads than be worn by hardcore white supremacists.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (two years ago) Permalink

where is the alt-right music board?

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (two years ago) Permalink

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

― imago, Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:18 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (two years ago) Permalink

xxp counterpoint:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t4AcWFogD60/maxresdefault.jpg

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (two years ago) Permalink

http://boards.4chan.org/mu/

nb that i don't think 4chan is 100% alt-right but i think broadly speaking a lot of the aesthetic comes from there and there's lots of crossover. i wouldn't consider st0rmfr4nt alt-right - that seems more traditionally racist to me.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:22 (two years ago) Permalink

some of these shitheads are throwing a pro-trump art festival in my borough, i read on the hardening thread.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:28 (two years ago) Permalink

I looked at that /mu/ for one minute and some poor schmuck started a thread about how Esperanza Spalding, a black female artist, is really good (which she is) - devoured in seconds

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:34 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't think Million Dollar Extreme is really a part of this

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:37 (two years ago) Permalink

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:47 (two years ago) Permalink

MDE absolutely is

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:48 (two years ago) Permalink

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement.

Well, maybe I'm misunderstanding alt-right. I thought it referred to e.g. Breitbart/Milo Yiannopoulos, who I thought are still more or less pro- a lot of those things as well as being more blatantly racist and nationalistic than, say, Mitt Romney.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:51 (two years ago) Permalink

i would just like to point out that i wrote about these guys 4 years ago

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:52 (two years ago) Permalink

Milo isn't alt-right. He's an alt-right wannabe / fellow traveller.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:53 (two years ago) Permalink

Oh, I thought he was a quasi-leader. I'm probably on way the wrong page, then.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (two years ago) Permalink

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

my impression of MDE is that it's an elaborate troll on anything and everything, I'm guessing the alt-right probably has claimed him but I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (two years ago) Permalink

politics for various alt-righters probably differ but on those topics i'd guess the majority are pro-protectionism anti-immigration agnostic on Christian morality (and in many cases ideologically opposed to religious faith) isolationist or in some cases extreme hawkism (drop nukes on the middle east). and of course the central component is defending the race against #whitegenocide. also jew-hating.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:55 (two years ago) Permalink

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:56 (two years ago) Permalink

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:57 (two years ago) Permalink

i think the key attribute marking the "alt" (a p fraught and dumb prefix imo) is determinism.

xp

I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

― frogbs, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god knows if i can or want to find it again but there are forum posts out there by him that are the now-standard post-libertarian line, like: "i used to be apolitical and in favor of freedom, but now i see that america has been ruined since the civil rights movement and feminism, it needs to be purged" etc

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are johnny come latelies

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (two years ago) Permalink

it's really not. it jumped on the alt-right bandwagon thru Milo but he started as just an observer and tho the alt-right will pretty much accept any celebrity legitimacy they can get, he remains a controversial figure in the movement (bc he's gay and jewish). he wrote this around the time breitbart began embracing the alt-right: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/ - where you can see that he's interacting w/ them more as an anthropologist than a participant. xxp

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:59 (two years ago) Permalink

didn't realise that Yiannopoulos had jewish heritage

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/203888/donald-trumps-little-boy

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:05 (two years ago) Permalink

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

― Mordy, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:56 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I never really followed the persona behind it too closely. I read a lot of that stuff as a parody of the alt-right, though I suppose at this point, what's the difference

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:06 (two years ago) Permalink

goole you always amaze/scare me with your knowledge of this stuff

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Dark Enlightenment feeds into this, right?

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink

i guess my knowledge of this stuff is just unsurprising :p

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (two years ago) Permalink

has anybody here ever heard kids reading from the bible at church

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:52 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean, just listen to her. This is a child reading from a script. Who even bought her the prison clothes?

https://youtu.be/iqw_Zo49IPY

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Some people even think this girl is scripted too...

https://youtu.be/ulf82uRT3bA

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Could be her own script tbf.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 17:59 (one month ago) Permalink

lol she’s obviously reading from a script but there’s no indication someone wrote it for her and she speaks w/ clarity, fluency and intent that suggests that she understands it entirely

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:02 (one month ago) Permalink

says right there on the video

Written by Soph
Co-written by Vaporub Boy

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:03 (one month ago) Permalink

the fact that she sounds like she is saying a lot of these words for the first time in her life is sort of a giveaway

― frogbs

this was not my impression but i suppose impressions are subjective

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:03 (one month ago) Permalink

Sometimes ppl know words from reading that they’ve never heard spoken aloud

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:07 (one month ago) Permalink

Especially at that age.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:08 (one month ago) Permalink

even at my age (40s)

the late great, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:09 (one month ago) Permalink

At any age tbh.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (one month ago) Permalink

Can confirm (30s). Just likelier at such a young age, is all.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:10 (one month ago) Permalink

It seems like she understands what she is saying and I bet she shares those views and—maybe more significantly—that weird meme sensibility

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:11 (one month ago) Permalink

14 is maybe old enough to form and articulate hot takes such as these, but she looks 10

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah but she is 14

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:15 (one month ago) Permalink

just sayin

husserl gang (rip van wanko), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:16 (one month ago) Permalink

The 'imprisoned' girl strikes me as genuine, in that she seems like a bright kid who felt totally estranged from her peers in school, probably was teased, bullied and ostracized, with too little support from teachers or counselors. Chances are good her parents encouraged her to respond combatively and righteously, because this was their own method of coping with opposition, thus escalating the whole dynamic until it reached the place seen in her video. btw, she looks 14 to me.

Not sure how all this bitter socialization will play out for her in adulthood, but the odds are, not well. She's all primed to go down with her guns blazing. Figuratively, let's hope.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Not sure how all this bitter socialization will play out for her in adulthood, but the odds are, not well. She's all primed to go down with her guns blazing. Figuratively, let's hope.

― A is for (Aimless)

but one never really knows, does one? all this talk of "owning" and "destroying" by people who don't seem to have a firm grasp on the difference between fantasy and reality at the best of times...

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:35 (one month ago) Permalink

The bile, black and white thinking, and the way that e.g. the "women are cool" video weirdly drifts between grand evolutionary psych pronouncements and bitter references to high school relationships and social dynamics do seem pretty credibly adolescent to me. Will admit that I would probably be less scandalized (and also less sympathetic) if she were a boy bc boys are obv monsters.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:39 (one month ago) Permalink

that article was pretty terrible. I'm not sure what a lone example like this is really supposed to tell us

rob, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:41 (one month ago) Permalink

alex jones seems pretty credibly adolescent to me!

Flood-Resistant Mirror-Drilling Machine (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:49 (one month ago) Permalink

I'm not sure what a lone example like this is really supposed to tell us

She didn't pick up this shtick in a vacuum and I guarantee you she'll inspire more heinous content (and worse) in the near future if she keeps or expands her audience base over time.

Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:51 (one month ago) Permalink

There's been lots of good reporting on YouTube's complete fucked-upness (like the Bloomberg piece that's linked in the article), but this one doesn't tell us anything new. I probably wouldn't care if it weren't being presented as news, but since it is, this is borderline malpractice imo:

"Indeed, one of Soph’s messages seems to be that in a world where the adults who have grown rich through technology took the implications of that technology seriously, she wouldn’t exist. She’s a problem, she seems to be saying, of YouTube’s own making."

I get that the existence of this person is disturbing, but that doesn't make this a good article nor does it excuse sending what I assume is a shitload of traffic her way.

rob, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:03 (one month ago) Permalink

I mean I def agree that the direct linking and "no, seriously, watch it" demand was not helpful

Simon H., Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:08 (one month ago) Permalink

The framing was the way a liberal media org can use compelling content that is politically off brand without owning it themselves

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:09 (one month ago) Permalink

She debates adults on the left with eloquence and she laughs nonchalantly at systems of power. When I asked Soph why she relies so heavily on irony, her reply was typically curt: “the current paradigm does not deserve to be taken seriously.”

Curt. Also, facile and without content. This is just the usual adolescent scorn and hubris, but attached to a larger vocabulary and a more accomplished mimicry of maturity. All those youtube views are going to reinforce her like crazy and tend to freeze her into this persona far into adulthood. I would not want to be her, no matter how many followers she gathers or how much money she harvests off this notoriety.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:13 (one month ago) Permalink

Hate to see someone frozen in adulthood with merely a high vocabulary and facile opinions

Mordy, Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:15 (one month ago) Permalink

Kind of like seeing the small town high school quarterback who led his team to the state 4A championship, never leaves town, and rests on his laurels.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 16 May 2019 19:21 (one month ago) Permalink

she’s pretty much lil tay with extra fascism

maura, Thursday, 16 May 2019 23:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Where did this Imam Tawhidi grifter pop up from?

"the left is more violent than even Isis" lol

anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 14:48 (three weeks ago) Permalink

odds are high that "the left" being referenced in that quote is some shit like Mao's Revolutionary Guard from 50 years ago, before almost every member of ISIS was born.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 25 May 2019 17:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Off-topic, I made this, not sure what do do with it (Dankula has blocked me already) so I'm putting it here.

https://i.imgur.com/a4PXAMU.jpg

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

odds are high that "the left" being referenced in that quote is some shit like Mao's Revolutionary Guard from 50 years ago, before almost every member of ISIS was born.

Given that he was telling his interviewer he was worried for her safety because "the left is more violent than even Isis" this seems unlikely!

anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 18:54 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Ah, then he must be referring to the imaginary "left" that lives in his mind alongside the dancing elves.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:23 (three weeks ago) Permalink

careful now, some of them have heavy milkshakery

anvil, Saturday, 25 May 2019 19:35 (three weeks ago) Permalink

A group of Mennonites showing up to protest the Klan is the most Ohio shit in the entire world and I'm loving it https://t.co/fb336pnNhH

— Neverwinter DSA Co-Chair (@thepoeticgopher) May 25, 2019

Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Saturday, 25 May 2019 23:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Breitbart, Ben Shapiro "bridged the gap" between Fox News and Stormfront for this pair of white supremacist terrorists.

That's the purpose the alt-right was created to serve, y'all.

It's literally the reason they exist. pic.twitter.com/NjXY0ZSRKP

— Gwen Snyder is uncivil (@gwensnyderPHL) May 27, 2019

Twitter thread charting the radicalization of a white nationalist via Facebook likes

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 07:08 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I hear that Ben Shapiro isn't considered alt-right by people in the alt-right because he's Jewish.

adam the (abanana), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 09:57 (three weeks ago) Permalink

he may not consider himself alt-right, but he is alt-right adjacent

be the 2 chainz you want 2 see in the world (m bison), Tuesday, 28 May 2019 11:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It's good that alt right types are engaging in sectarianism and authenticity arguments, but I don't think the rest of us need bother to distinguish.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 12:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

These stupid labels. He may not be their boyfriend but they sure are seeing a lot of each other.

Yerac, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 13:31 (three weeks ago) Permalink

at least he says he is a Conservative, which is preferable to these 'classical liberal / the left left me' balloons.

anvil, Tuesday, 28 May 2019 14:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

A federal judge has dropped all charges against three men who were indicted on conspiracy charges for inciting riots across California. The members of RAM were ordered to be released today in an LA courtroom. Reporting for @CourthouseNews

— Nathan Solis (@CNSNathan) June 3, 2019

I know better than to expect courts to protect us from these shithead but goddamn this is infuriating

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 00:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Jordan Peterson bringing us the real deal, an elite message board slated to render ILX obsolete:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jun/13/jordan-peterson-launches-anti-censorship-site-thinkspot

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:19 (one week ago) Permalink

That'll inevitably be a hub for coordinating harassment, so hope that people will be ready to contact whatever payment company they decide to use.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:32 (one week ago) Permalink

Besides, I thought voat was already a '1st amendment alternative to reddit' or some such.

pomenitul, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:39 (one week ago) Permalink

I think the idea here is to replace Patreon. They're creating a structure for monetizing hatred and harassment.

Frederik B, Thursday, 13 June 2019 14:59 (one week ago) Permalink

Hatreon

dan selzer, Thursday, 13 June 2019 15:23 (one week ago) Permalink

Dylan Roof used a Nazi go-between to send a 12-page letter to Tucker Carlson.

https://hatetrackers.blogspot.com/2019/06/mass-murderer-dylann-roof-using-outside.html?m=1

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 14 June 2019 02:30 (six days ago) Permalink


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