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my fellow liberal cucktards and white-genocide lesbians! the deplorables have risen, and what are we gonna do about it?

cf men's rights thread, that's racist thread, batshit cartoons thread, donald trump thread etc

fwiw https://www.rt.com/viral/361510-alt-right-cheat-sheet-racist/

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:13 (three years ago) link

feel free to use 'hitlers' and 'deplorables' interchangeably itt

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:17 (three years ago) link

"Hitlers" gives them the power they want. We don't want any of these people to start the Siege of Leningrad.

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:23 (three years ago) link

what can they really besiege though, it'll be shit like Green Room from here on out, unless they seize power of a whole country (ahem)

actually Green Room feels like the first film of the resistance to this shit

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:41 (three years ago) link

Ressentiment can tear a society apart. Absurd as these cuckmasters seem, I don't feel sanguine about the threat they pose.
Con

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:52 (three years ago) link

how are they alt though?

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:00 (three years ago) link

They have the courage to actually say what everyone's thinking, unlike what-used-to-be-mainstream PC cuckservatives?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:13 (three years ago) link

They use new forms of dehumanizing slang -- not just old fashioned slurs -- which is pretty alt.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:38 (three years ago) link

what gets me is - what is their culture? what is their art? what do they even like?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:49 (three years ago) link

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement. Their culture is on /b/ and maybe idk theredpill. It's memes, vidya, anime, gore pics, creepypasta, cruel lolz, cringe, and tons and tons of pr0n.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:57 (three years ago) link

a marginal movement

Um, isn't their candidate the Republican nominee for President?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:02 (three years ago) link

do they not like music, to paraphrase achewood

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:05 (three years ago) link

I mean, it does feel like the logical endpoint of 4chan, but warped to such a putridity of feeling that I fail to see how these creatures can function in anything approaching society

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:07 (three years ago) link

also, have Anonymous declared war on them yet, or is there overlap?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (three years ago) link

you're so warped by being a cucked sjw that you can't see that their vision of society is the right one, maaaaan

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (three years ago) link

They have a music board you can check out. They like vaporwave. Re Trump he is their candidate but not exclusively idk it's hard to gauge.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (three years ago) link

i think there is some overlap

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (three years ago) link

there's an alt right sketch comedy show on Adult Swim now, Million Dollar Extreme, created by this guy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca5Sg3NUsAENTlG.png

larry appleton, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:12 (three years ago) link

their legitimation on adult swim is deeply unsurprising

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:13 (three years ago) link

their liking of vaporwave makes a weird sort of sense. they are the death eaters

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:14 (three years ago) link

i'd like to take this opportunity to big up my favourite alt-right dipshit davis aurini: ostentatious whisky drinker, skull enthusiast, publicly-funded kung-fu movie auteur, and three-time winner of the international skeleton from superted lookalike contest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ix1Xr8QHpRw/maxresdefault.jpg

just look at his lil' face!

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:15 (three years ago) link

These guys are just adorable

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:17 (three years ago) link

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:18 (three years ago) link

i've been watching million dollar extreme. sometimes it is really really funny, and sometimes it is ideologically okay (like the sketch about our shitty drinking water) and then they just say something openly misogynistic or racist or the sketch is just brutally uncomfortable. idk i'd like to discuss it but i don't have much to say. it's clearly unique, and sam is clearly v smart + funny, and also i'm disappointed in adult swim for giving them a platform.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:19 (three years ago) link

i don't think fedora is entirely linked. there may be associations/links between fedora/brony culture and the alt-right but generally speaking i think fedoras are more likely to show up in cringe threads than be worn by hardcore white supremacists.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (three years ago) link

where is the alt-right music board?

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (three years ago) link

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

― imago, Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:18 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (three years ago) link

xxp counterpoint:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t4AcWFogD60/maxresdefault.jpg

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (three years ago) link

http://boards.4chan.org/mu/

nb that i don't think 4chan is 100% alt-right but i think broadly speaking a lot of the aesthetic comes from there and there's lots of crossover. i wouldn't consider st0rmfr4nt alt-right - that seems more traditionally racist to me.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:22 (three years ago) link

some of these shitheads are throwing a pro-trump art festival in my borough, i read on the hardening thread.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:28 (three years ago) link

I looked at that /mu/ for one minute and some poor schmuck started a thread about how Esperanza Spalding, a black female artist, is really good (which she is) - devoured in seconds

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:34 (three years ago) link

I don't think Million Dollar Extreme is really a part of this

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:37 (three years ago) link

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:47 (three years ago) link

MDE absolutely is

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:48 (three years ago) link

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement.

Well, maybe I'm misunderstanding alt-right. I thought it referred to e.g. Breitbart/Milo Yiannopoulos, who I thought are still more or less pro- a lot of those things as well as being more blatantly racist and nationalistic than, say, Mitt Romney.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:51 (three years ago) link

i would just like to point out that i wrote about these guys 4 years ago

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:52 (three years ago) link

Milo isn't alt-right. He's an alt-right wannabe / fellow traveller.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:53 (three years ago) link

Oh, I thought he was a quasi-leader. I'm probably on way the wrong page, then.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (three years ago) link

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

my impression of MDE is that it's an elaborate troll on anything and everything, I'm guessing the alt-right probably has claimed him but I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (three years ago) link

politics for various alt-righters probably differ but on those topics i'd guess the majority are pro-protectionism anti-immigration agnostic on Christian morality (and in many cases ideologically opposed to religious faith) isolationist or in some cases extreme hawkism (drop nukes on the middle east). and of course the central component is defending the race against #whitegenocide. also jew-hating.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:55 (three years ago) link

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:56 (three years ago) link

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:57 (three years ago) link

i think the key attribute marking the "alt" (a p fraught and dumb prefix imo) is determinism.

xp

I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

― frogbs, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god knows if i can or want to find it again but there are forum posts out there by him that are the now-standard post-libertarian line, like: "i used to be apolitical and in favor of freedom, but now i see that america has been ruined since the civil rights movement and feminism, it needs to be purged" etc

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (three years ago) link

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are johnny come latelies

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (three years ago) link

it's really not. it jumped on the alt-right bandwagon thru Milo but he started as just an observer and tho the alt-right will pretty much accept any celebrity legitimacy they can get, he remains a controversial figure in the movement (bc he's gay and jewish). he wrote this around the time breitbart began embracing the alt-right: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/ - where you can see that he's interacting w/ them more as an anthropologist than a participant. xxp

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:59 (three years ago) link

didn't realise that Yiannopoulos had jewish heritage

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/203888/donald-trumps-little-boy

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:05 (three years ago) link

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

― Mordy, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:56 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I never really followed the persona behind it too closely. I read a lot of that stuff as a parody of the alt-right, though I suppose at this point, what's the difference

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:06 (three years ago) link

goole you always amaze/scare me with your knowledge of this stuff

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:12 (three years ago) link

Dark Enlightenment feeds into this, right?

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (three years ago) link

i guess my knowledge of this stuff is just unsurprising :p

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (three years ago) link

as far as the "well actually," that's kind of to be expected when presenting any sort of counter-argument; it did not come off as an apologia for youtube so much as "it's not as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube"

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine)

but is anybody arguing that it _is_ as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube, or are people just arguing that, you know, unplugging the third reich feeding tube might be a good thing, all things considered? the whole "counter-argument" aspect of it just strikes me as questionable framing

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Friday, 25 October 2019 01:04 (one month ago) link

Not sure what the full story is here, but looks like popcorn time to me

Milo just uploaded leaked audio of Richard Spencer reacting to the death of Heather Heyer and the negative press it did to his movement.

Just in case there was any question of the so-called "dapper white nationalist" being a raged fuelled hateful monster.

Explicit warning. pic.twitter.com/KpVk2fLYSu

— BAILEY, THE LIBTARDTARIAN 🃏 (@atheist_cvnt) November 4, 2019

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 04:34 (one month ago) link

What a sad pathetic human

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 4 November 2019 04:52 (one month ago) link

remember when people wrung their hands bc he got punched? remember that? you remember when people said that it was bad? people said that.

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 4 November 2019 05:06 (one month ago) link

i just sitting here remembering his nice little chat on NPR

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Monday, 4 November 2019 05:18 (one month ago) link

"Octaroons"? Wtf. I imagine that Trump's ranting in private is similar in tone if a little less ideologically ornate. (I do by the way know what an octaroon is but I kind of doubt Spencer would know one if he saw one.)

viborg, Monday, 4 November 2019 05:21 (one month ago) link

But when it comes to spending time on the internet talking about how great punching people is, well...I'd posit that if you're such a fan of punching, it's best to just get out there and do it, and limit the amount of energy you devote to talking about it.

viborg, Monday, 4 November 2019 05:23 (one month ago) link

no

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 4 November 2019 11:47 (one month ago) link

it’s very good that people perform open heart surgery but ya don’t see me slicing up people’s torsos!!! i leave that to the pros, just like i leave nazi-punchin to antifa.

i'm not a government man; i'm a government, man. (m bison), Monday, 4 November 2019 11:49 (one month ago) link

guys i think richard spencer is cancelled now

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 November 2019 11:51 (one month ago) link

i have to wonder where milo uploaded that given that he's banned from every social platform except for maybe planet penguin iirc

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 November 2019 11:52 (one month ago) link

Point:

But when it comes to spending time on the internet talking about how great punching people is, well...I'd posit that if you're such a fan of punching, it's best to just get out there and do it, and limit the amount of energy you devote to talking about it.

― viborg, Monday, November 4, 2019 12:23 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Counterpoint:

Richard Spencer vs Rage Against the Machine pic.twitter.com/jzGLS4eNtM

— Jack Sprat (@Jacqueimo) January 21, 2017

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 4 November 2019 12:04 (one month ago) link

More story itt

In an attempt to push back on attacks on followers of white nationalist Nick Fuentes, who represent a pro-Trump wing of the Alt-Right, Milo Yiannopoulos has published a damning audio clip of Richard Spencer following Unite the Right. Don't lose site of the big picture, a thread. pic.twitter.com/j1zqstvPst

— It's Going Down (@IGD_News) November 4, 2019

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 4 November 2019 13:08 (one month ago) link

lmao, rip in peace this huge-headed oaf's youtube channel

YouTube banned Sebastian Gorka because he won't stop playing Imagine Dragons on his channel. https://t.co/7Jiuvd0Jda

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) November 5, 2019

Gorka, who didn’t respond to requests for comment, didn’t appear to realize on Monday afternoon that his channel had been deleted. After one Twitter user complained that Gorka’s links were going to his now-deleted channel, Gorka mocked the poster, tweeting “you really should try harder” and ending the message with a laughing-crying emoji.

You really should try harder.

Try searching for my YouTube channel again.

You and your 13 followers!

😂😂😂 https://t.co/k2VPX1fvxS

— Sebastian Gorka DrG (@SebGorka) November 4, 2019

non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 13:40 (one month ago) link

I wish it were because they're cracking down hard on fascism but cracking down on Imagine Dragons is nearly as good

esempio (crüt), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 18:23 (one month ago) link

Proud Boys lawyer Jason Lee Van Dyke, a violent racist with a penchant for murder threats, boldly accepts the fascist label he's always had, claiming that he's more of a Mussolini than a Hitler.

Big day for fascists telling on themselves!

(h/t @popehat) pic.twitter.com/pY2hLgYp0q

— Andy Campbell (@AndyBCampbell) November 4, 2019

I want to change my display name (dan m), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:12 (one month ago) link

Is it really telling on yourself if you are proud to be a fascist? The fact these guys try so hard to hide their beliefs and cultivate an air of respectability is the most pathetic aspect of their whole schtick. They know it's unacceptable and that they aren't going to convince most people otherwise, so they dance around the truth.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:16 (one month ago) link

why is Gorka's twitter name "Sebastian Gorka DrG" and his handle "@SebGorka"

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:24 (one month ago) link

where is his branding consultant

also lol at him trying to appearance-shame other right-wing commentariat

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:26 (one month ago) link

gotta emphasize that he has a doctorate. which he got from a diploma mill.

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 21:57 (one month ago) link

I'm a bit late on the Spencer tape thing -- but from reading "Everything you love will burn", the punching actually gave Spencer some street cred within the movement. Prior to it he was seen as a 'suit' not involved in the 'real' movement.

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 22:06 (one month ago) link

rip big man, heaven needed an extremely stupid white nationalist 'philosopher'

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 10:53 (one month ago) link

I wish it were because they're cracking down hard on fascism but cracking down on Imagine Dragons is nearly as good

― esempio (crüt), Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:23 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 13:55 (one month ago) link

in case anyone wants to do some digging, this is horrifyingly unsurprising

Apparently the entire SQL database of the international neo-fascist Iron March forum (where Atomwaffen first properly organised). Contains info on all users, including user emails, IP address, and private messages, as well as all posts and comments. Enjoy. https://t.co/iq8D7IRorU pic.twitter.com/GTzz31HxGs

— Jake Hanrahan (@Jake_Hanrahan) November 6, 2019

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 18:15 (one month ago) link

oops sorry meant to link to a different tweet discussing how many active duty US military are included in this dump… "a lot"

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 18:19 (one month ago) link

haha awesome, the more exposure the better

yeah plz link to that as well!

Book Doula (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 18:19 (one month ago) link

more info in follow up tweets

Going through this, there are a *lot* of active duty U.S. soldiers on this forum. https://t.co/PmwvS6uNin

— Aric Toler (@AricToler) November 6, 2019

also use a VPN if you're gonna try downloading that archive

I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 6 November 2019 18:23 (one month ago) link

NYC Psychology Professor Secretly Moonlights As White Nationalist Co-Host Of Richard Spencer's Podcast

For years, Joshua Dietz has taught psychology at New York City’s public and private universities. Students at Kingsborough Community College describe him as a “modern professor,” easygoing and informal. He plays guitar in his spare time, and maintains a hypnosis practice in Downtown Brooklyn, providing emotional counseling and “assertiveness training.” He was an adjunct at St. Francis College, just a few blocks away, as recently as last fall.

But when he’s not teaching undergrads or hypnotizing passive men, Dietz is lecturing under another name: Josh Neal, avowed white nationalist and co-host of Richard Spencer’s podcast.

Operating under that thinly-veiled moniker, Dietz hosts the McSpencer Group alongside Spencer, perhaps the best known American neo-Nazi and a founding member of the so-called alt-right. For hours at a time, Dietz and a rotating selection of guests help plot the future of the white identity movement, touching on subjects from eugenics to Kurt Cobain (“a symbol of white displacement”) to the “negrofication” of American culture.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 8 November 2019 19:34 (one month ago) link

interesting thread

Thread: The booing of Charlie Kirk, Don Jr, and Kimberly Guilfoyle by alt-right activists was the culmination of a month-long campaign that received no press attention.

— Matthew Sheffield (@mattsheffield) November 11, 2019

piscesx, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:27 (one month ago) link

Q: Why should this deserve any press attention?

it seems pretty meaningless

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:53 (one month ago) link

xp

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:54 (one month ago) link

i think anytime you see that people on the far-right who have realized that being extremely online and posting about esoteric-hitlerism on their gab account "basedevola" isn't that productive, and that they can appeal to a wide-swathe of white folks with just social conservatism, white nationalism and anti-elite discourse a la steve bannon it's a bit worrying. though it's funny to see toilet paper usa being targeted from the right

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:01 (one month ago) link

Fascinating!

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:03 (one month ago) link

UF student president faces impeachment after “smoking gun” email shows he worked with Trump campaign to pay Trump Jr. and Kimberly Guilfoyle $50,000 for on campus speeches despite law against using public funds on political campaigns #BecauseFlorida https://t.co/eJcQAuirV9

— Billy Corben (@BillyCorben) November 13, 2019

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:07 (one month ago) link

IMPEACH

grebbmoolb (crüt), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 03:26 (one month ago) link

The office of UF student president has been shockingly compromised! I say, forget impeachment, but make the fucker pay it all back.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 05:04 (one month ago) link

making a mockery of the dignity of office the student body presidency

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 05:07 (one month ago) link

Imagine helping Don Jr make a buck.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 05:14 (one month ago) link

Here is Charlie Kirk getting chased off scene by Trump supporters after trying to convince his audience that neo-Nazi Nicholas Fuentes is a bad guy pic.twitter.com/FDlClt9iSJ

— Wild Geerters (@classiclib3ral) November 15, 2019

Charlie Kirk and TPUSA running into more trouble over this Fuentes thing

anvil, Friday, 15 November 2019 03:19 (one month ago) link

Cool, raging hordes of nazis

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 15 November 2019 03:48 (one month ago) link

i don't understand, who is the bad guy, is it all of them?

SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Friday, 15 November 2019 07:45 (one month ago) link

its all of them

anvil, Friday, 15 November 2019 07:52 (one month ago) link

corporatist/grifter right being attacked from the right. turns out not so keen on free speech after all

anvil, Friday, 15 November 2019 07:55 (one month ago) link

America farts!

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 15 November 2019 11:33 (one month ago) link

re Charlie Kirk, he described this particular fissure best himself

"People who openly identify as white supremacists came to my event tonight

They have no place in the conservative movement"

Trying to walk that tightrope with the "Openly Identify",

anvil, Sunday, 17 November 2019 07:05 (four weeks ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/Zz4G5L2/3gx23z.jpg

Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 November 2019 03:08 (three weeks ago) link

two weeks pass...

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