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my fellow liberal cucktards and white-genocide lesbians! the deplorables have risen, and what are we gonna do about it?

cf men's rights thread, that's racist thread, batshit cartoons thread, donald trump thread etc

fwiw https://www.rt.com/viral/361510-alt-right-cheat-sheet-racist/

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:13 (two years ago) Permalink

feel free to use 'hitlers' and 'deplorables' interchangeably itt

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:17 (two years ago) Permalink

"Hitlers" gives them the power they want. We don't want any of these people to start the Siege of Leningrad.

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:23 (two years ago) Permalink

what can they really besiege though, it'll be shit like Green Room from here on out, unless they seize power of a whole country (ahem)

actually Green Room feels like the first film of the resistance to this shit

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:41 (two years ago) Permalink

Ressentiment can tear a society apart. Absurd as these cuckmasters seem, I don't feel sanguine about the threat they pose.
Con

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 12:52 (two years ago) Permalink

how are they alt though?

nashwan, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:00 (two years ago) Permalink

They have the courage to actually say what everyone's thinking, unlike what-used-to-be-mainstream PC cuckservatives?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:13 (two years ago) Permalink

They use new forms of dehumanizing slang -- not just old fashioned slurs -- which is pretty alt.

Treeship, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:38 (two years ago) Permalink

what gets me is - what is their culture? what is their art? what do they even like?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:49 (two years ago) Permalink

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement. Their culture is on /b/ and maybe idk theredpill. It's memes, vidya, anime, gore pics, creepypasta, cruel lolz, cringe, and tons and tons of pr0n.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 13:57 (two years ago) Permalink

a marginal movement

Um, isn't their candidate the Republican nominee for President?

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:02 (two years ago) Permalink

do they not like music, to paraphrase achewood

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:05 (two years ago) Permalink

I mean, it does feel like the logical endpoint of 4chan, but warped to such a putridity of feeling that I fail to see how these creatures can function in anything approaching society

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:07 (two years ago) Permalink

also, have Anonymous declared war on them yet, or is there overlap?

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (two years ago) Permalink

you're so warped by being a cucked sjw that you can't see that their vision of society is the right one, maaaaan

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:09 (two years ago) Permalink

They have a music board you can check out. They like vaporwave. Re Trump he is their candidate but not exclusively idk it's hard to gauge.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (two years ago) Permalink

i think there is some overlap

xp

jason waterfalls (gbx), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:10 (two years ago) Permalink

there's an alt right sketch comedy show on Adult Swim now, Million Dollar Extreme, created by this guy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca5Sg3NUsAENTlG.png

larry appleton, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:12 (two years ago) Permalink

their legitimation on adult swim is deeply unsurprising

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:13 (two years ago) Permalink

their liking of vaporwave makes a weird sort of sense. they are the death eaters

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:14 (two years ago) Permalink

i'd like to take this opportunity to big up my favourite alt-right dipshit davis aurini: ostentatious whisky drinker, skull enthusiast, publicly-funded kung-fu movie auteur, and three-time winner of the international skeleton from superted lookalike contest

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ix1Xr8QHpRw/maxresdefault.jpg

just look at his lil' face!

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:15 (two years ago) Permalink

These guys are just adorable

don't even see how this was a duck (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:17 (two years ago) Permalink

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:18 (two years ago) Permalink

i've been watching million dollar extreme. sometimes it is really really funny, and sometimes it is ideologically okay (like the sketch about our shitty drinking water) and then they just say something openly misogynistic or racist or the sketch is just brutally uncomfortable. idk i'd like to discuss it but i don't have much to say. it's clearly unique, and sam is clearly v smart + funny, and also i'm disappointed in adult swim for giving them a platform.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:19 (two years ago) Permalink

i don't think fedora is entirely linked. there may be associations/links between fedora/brony culture and the alt-right but generally speaking i think fedoras are more likely to show up in cringe threads than be worn by hardcore white supremacists.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (two years ago) Permalink

where is the alt-right music board?

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:20 (two years ago) Permalink

I forgot to cf rolling fedora

― imago, Thursday, October 6, 2016 10:18 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

And Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

how's life, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (two years ago) Permalink

xxp counterpoint:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/t4AcWFogD60/maxresdefault.jpg

spongeboy bigpants (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:21 (two years ago) Permalink

http://boards.4chan.org/mu/

nb that i don't think 4chan is 100% alt-right but i think broadly speaking a lot of the aesthetic comes from there and there's lots of crossover. i wouldn't consider st0rmfr4nt alt-right - that seems more traditionally racist to me.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:22 (two years ago) Permalink

some of these shitheads are throwing a pro-trump art festival in my borough, i read on the hardening thread.

look at the morning people (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:28 (two years ago) Permalink

I looked at that /mu/ for one minute and some poor schmuck started a thread about how Esperanza Spalding, a black female artist, is really good (which she is) - devoured in seconds

imago, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:34 (two years ago) Permalink

I don't think Million Dollar Extreme is really a part of this

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:37 (two years ago) Permalink

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:47 (two years ago) Permalink

MDE absolutely is

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:48 (two years ago) Permalink

They're an alternative to US right wing consensus - instead of being pro free markets, pro Christian morality or pro strong defense they are just pro white nationalism. This obviously isn't /new/ but it is untraditional in the US and has (and continues?) to be a marginal movement.

Well, maybe I'm misunderstanding alt-right. I thought it referred to e.g. Breitbart/Milo Yiannopoulos, who I thought are still more or less pro- a lot of those things as well as being more blatantly racist and nationalistic than, say, Mitt Romney.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:51 (two years ago) Permalink

i would just like to point out that i wrote about these guys 4 years ago

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:52 (two years ago) Permalink

Milo isn't alt-right. He's an alt-right wannabe / fellow traveller.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:53 (two years ago) Permalink

Oh, I thought he was a quasi-leader. I'm probably on way the wrong page, then.

Spiritual Hat Minimalism (Sund4r), Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (two years ago) Permalink

sam for sure is and mde board on reddit certainly believes it is

my impression of MDE is that it's an elaborate troll on anything and everything, I'm guessing the alt-right probably has claimed him but I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:54 (two years ago) Permalink

politics for various alt-righters probably differ but on those topics i'd guess the majority are pro-protectionism anti-immigration agnostic on Christian morality (and in many cases ideologically opposed to religious faith) isolationist or in some cases extreme hawkism (drop nukes on the middle east). and of course the central component is defending the race against #whitegenocide. also jew-hating.

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:55 (two years ago) Permalink

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:56 (two years ago) Permalink

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:57 (two years ago) Permalink

i think the key attribute marking the "alt" (a p fraught and dumb prefix imo) is determinism.

xp

I dunno if Sam has any real political views besides "lol"

― frogbs, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:54 AM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god knows if i can or want to find it again but there are forum posts out there by him that are the now-standard post-libertarian line, like: "i used to be apolitical and in favor of freedom, but now i see that america has been ruined since the civil rights movement and feminism, it needs to be purged" etc

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (two years ago) Permalink

Wait hold on, Breitbart is core alt-right.

― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:57 AM (twenty-eight seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they are johnny come latelies

goole, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:58 (two years ago) Permalink

it's really not. it jumped on the alt-right bandwagon thru Milo but he started as just an observer and tho the alt-right will pretty much accept any celebrity legitimacy they can get, he remains a controversial figure in the movement (bc he's gay and jewish). he wrote this around the time breitbart began embracing the alt-right: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/ - where you can see that he's interacting w/ them more as an anthropologist than a participant. xxp

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 14:59 (two years ago) Permalink

didn't realise that Yiannopoulos had jewish heritage

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/203888/donald-trumps-little-boy

soref, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:05 (two years ago) Permalink

frogbs you've seen this? https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbernstein/the-alt-right-has-its-own-comedy-tv-show-on-a-time-warner-ne

― Mordy, Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:56 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess I never really followed the persona behind it too closely. I read a lot of that stuff as a parody of the alt-right, though I suppose at this point, what's the difference

frogbs, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:06 (two years ago) Permalink

goole you always amaze/scare me with your knowledge of this stuff

k3vin k., Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:12 (two years ago) Permalink

Dark Enlightenment feeds into this, right?

(rocketcat) 🚀🐱 👑🐟 (kingfish), Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:13 (two years ago) Permalink

i guess my knowledge of this stuff is just unsurprising :p

Mordy, Thursday, 6 October 2016 15:15 (two years ago) Permalink

Fascism means never having to say you're horny

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2019 09:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Seems degrading to say that the reason right wingers are obsessed with AOC isn’t bc she’s a dynamic young political figure championing causes diametrically opposed to their own but bc she’s so sexy and maybe says more about you than whoever you’re claiming is blinded by her hotness.

Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:04 (three weeks ago) Permalink

no

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:05 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I don’t think that’s quite the smoking gun you think it is.

Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:09 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i don't think 'no it is YOU who is the horny one!' is quite the comeback you think it is either

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I admire Ben Shapiro's stance on boiling down complex issues

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:13 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Conservatism means being furious, scared, and horny all at the same time pic.twitter.com/4ozTbtPphI

— Ryan Boyd (@ryanaboyd) March 14, 2019

Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:15 (three weeks ago) Permalink

a bold stance from mr ben 'facts don't care about your feelings' shapiro xp

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I agree with Mordy that arguments intended to expose the libidinous frailty of yr enemy are, at best, double-edged

The Xylems of the Limes (Noodle Vague), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

claiming that her opponents find her hot is degrading to her even if you think you're safely imputing those beliefs to the opposition and not touting them yourself if you can't see that idk even if it's true (maybe especially if it's true) maybe they are obsessed with her bc she's v charismatic (aka appealing) and is promoting policies that they hate something that wouldn't reduce her to a sex object but make her like any other politician someone who is hated bc of what they stand for not bc of how they look. obama was a v handsome man but u didn't see ppl continually claiming that he was hated bc they just found him too sexy + it confused them (which is such a fucking stupid claim on its face - ben garrison is using her "sex appeal" to degrade her not bc his loins are so on fire he cannot but daydream over her visage).

Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

like give her the minimum credit that they hate her bc she is a political threat and not bc they want to fuck her

Mordy, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:20 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Mordy OTM

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:21 (three weeks ago) Permalink

like give her the minimum credit that they hate her bc she is a political threat and not bc they want to fuck her

whynotboth.jpg

grawlix (unperson), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

yeah, weird that a bunch of straight white conservative men weren't claiming that obama was too sexy, good point

aoc is a very charismatic personality who has been a tireless, and very effective, advocate for a lot of leftwing policies that have been kept out of mainstream american political thought for too long

she's also an attractive young woman who has been just as effective in rebutting a bunch of shit thrown her way by those same straight white conservative men, and i don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine that those people, who by and large expect suberservient treatment from women, have found it confusing in their bathing suit area

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:24 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time. And when the attacks on AOC has consisted of stuff like her dancing to Lisztomania, with the accompanying tweets claiming this showed she was completely incapable of being a politician, it's quite straightforward to think they drew that conclusion because they thought sexy = unpolitical. Which is basically saying their horniness confused them.

Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:28 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i can't find it within myself to take umbrage at the implication that ben shapiro is a hypocrite of low moral character

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:45 (three weeks ago) Permalink

it's not about giving _her_ credit, it's about giving _them_ credit for being motivated by anything beyond personal feelings, and truthfully i don't think they deserve that credit

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:53 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I...agree with Fred

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 12:55 (three weeks ago) Permalink

otm xp

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 12:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

xp about making men horny all the time?

Neil S, Monday, 1 April 2019 12:56 (three weeks ago) Permalink

keeping men horny and confused is just good praxis

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:11 (three weeks ago) Permalink

right-wing memes consistently portray AOC as a ditz (90% of them are just recycled "dumb blonde" jokes), I think Fredrik is right here

frogbs, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

They’re monsters. I think it’s inappropriate to talk about who might find her attractive and whatever though—even from the standpoint of being critical of the alt right. She isn’t inviting this kind of attention. She is just trying to be a member of congress and advocate for her constituents.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

She’s facing gender based attacks from the right. Period. Their psychological motivations aren’t worth discussifn.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

It’s gross to think about and irrelevant.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:17 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i just assume that we're affirming fred's statement that he is constantly making men horny.

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:36 (three weeks ago) Permalink

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I'm at a point in my online life where my mind is so broken I genuinely can't tell if the artist believes this is a good or bad thing pic.twitter.com/tuCfRsoSzY

— please @ me for access to my powerful brain (@ChrisCaesar) March 31, 2019

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:43 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There might be a bit of projection at work here too, given how the conservative movement has deployed/manipulated the sexual attractiveness of women on their side

rob, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:59 (three weeks ago) Permalink

keeping men horny and confused is just good praxis

― Simon H., Monday, April 1, 2019 6:11 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

moose; squirrel (silby), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:07 (three weeks ago) Permalink

updating my entry for fred on my xls with this new info

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Is Alessandra Mussolini alt-right?

pomenitul, Monday, 1 April 2019 18:16 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i think being a direct descendant, and fanatical admirer of, benito mussolini makes you about as trad-right as it’s possible to be

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:19 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time.

ILX politics threads being exhibit A of this most unlikely phenomenon.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:46 (three weeks ago) Permalink

I actually think the horniness is really caused by their sublimated attraction to left-wing political ideas.

I am serious about this--a lot of conservatism boils down to a kind of Protestant disciplinary project (both disciplining others and oneself). Resisting AOC's "hotness" as a principle of how serious (ie, Elected and not Damned) they are is very important.

ryan, Monday, 1 April 2019 19:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

There's nothing wrong with making men horny, I do it all the time.

― Frederik B, Monday, April 1, 2019 8:28 AM (ten hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love this so much

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 23:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

i didn't catch it before when i swooped in to scold everyone

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 23:14 (three weeks ago) Permalink

checking out a later period Steven Stapleton record on Youtube and hey look there's fawning videos about how Peterson and Shapiro DESTROY their critics right there in the recommendations for no fucking reason at all

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2019-04-02/youtube-executives-ignored-warnings-letting-toxic-videos-run-rampant

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Thursday, 4 April 2019 23:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I use youtube exclusively for watching footage of vintage jazz performances on dutch TV and I get the exact same thing. I don't even know who the fuck Peterson is, and I barely know Shapiro except to know that they're both pricks.

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:00 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i live in hope that at some point somebody will enforce some accountability on google for their extremely broken site. it's a farfetched hope, but still important to have.

i guess i might theoretically at some point quit using youtube the way i quit using facebook, but i don't see it happening anytime soon. it's unlikely enough that i am unwilling to even pretend it's a practical option.

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:16 (two weeks ago) Permalink

when i go to youtube logged out in a private browsing window the #1 thing it invariably suggests i might enjoy is videos of black men receiving large prison sentences

difficult listening hour, Friday, 5 April 2019 03:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

obama was a v handsome man but u didn't see ppl continually claiming that he was hated bc they just found him too sexy + it confused them (which is such a fucking stupid claim on its face

― Mordy, Monday, April 1, 2019 1:19 PM (four days ago

4 years ago I would have thought it was crazy, but now the idea of lots of right wing straight white men finding him kinda sexy and being infuriated about that doesn't seem so far fetched. Oftentimes in right wing paranoid sex fantasies about wives being stolen, the man is the centre of obsessively particular attention, the woman matters a lot less.

Take advice from someone who has endless morbid curiousity, never type into a search engine Rule 34 followed by Trump, Obama or Nicki Minaj.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 19:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

there was a right-wing thing that obama was a gay sex worker and michelle obama was a trans woman so i think we can assume that a lot of republicans are psychosexual nightmares

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 19:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

See also: I believe dominatrixes that look like stereotypical "SJWs" are popular because some men find them scary.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 19:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Also, just read Robert E. Howard's story "The Hyena" last week. Full of racist/masochist fantasy.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 21:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I guess he needed an outlet from his usual work

Boles to the Wolds (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 April 2019 21:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

"Cannibal!" I ejaculated, involuntarily.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 5 April 2019 21:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

It's possibly more pronounced in "the Hyena" than anything else. I haven't read all his stories (just scratched the surface really) but some REH scholar listed a bunch of his sorta s&m stories and this one stood out.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 April 2019 21:19 (two weeks ago) Permalink

4 years ago I would have thought it was crazy, but now the idea of lots of right wing straight white men finding him kinda sexy and being infuriated about that doesn't seem so far fetched. Oftentimes in right wing paranoid sex fantasies about wives being stolen, the man is the centre of obsessively particular attention, the woman matters a lot less.

― Robert Adam Gilmour

i have no idea which paranoid right-wingers are queer (though i have my suspicions about milo)

but there is, for the record, a long historical tradition of not considering women to be people

Jaki Liebowitz (rushomancy), Friday, 5 April 2019 23:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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