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Has anyone got the new SE? Wondering whether to just replace my current SE with a renewed old model – as the camera is broken and I have an eight-month old daughter to take 12,000 pictures of every day - or go with the 2020 version. If anyone’s got one, what’s the camera like? Sufficiently better than the previous SE? I don’t use my phone for much else.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:16 (three years ago) link

yeah, the camera is top notch

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:17 (three years ago) link

It's really very good. You'll get a lot of mileage out of Portrait mode with a kid around! If it senses a face, it applies a graduated blur to everything not in the same plane as the face; you can mess with this after the fact too - simulating deeper or shallower depth of field, studio-style lighting, etc. (Or turn it off). The Smart HDR of non-portrait mode is impressive too. These are two things (fake bokeh, HDR) which I'd always thought were cheap and nasty effects on phone-cams, but they've really improved. The back-camera itself is slightly better specced on the new model, and the front-camera is much better than the old SE.

Pretty happy with this. Get a grippy case though. Thing will slide off any surface.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link

yeah - really a vast difference w the camera

i got a nice 'tweed' case for it - actual cloth which i guess is glued to a form-fitting piece of plastic - and it's v nice so far

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link

Cool. Ordered one. Thanks! Yay consumerism

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

Good to know about the camera!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

Also (and I hope this isn't a dealbreaker, as you've just ordered it), there's no headphone jack, and no Lightning-minijack adaptor in the box. They do bundle in some Apple EarPods with Lightning connection, obv. They're better than I remember, but I did have to buy an adaptor (£9) to carry on using my third-party earbuds. And, for some strange reason, the adaptor only worked one way round initially. Ok now.

Wireless charging is nice too. I have a Qi pad on my bedside table (bought when the kids wrecked the USB port on my tablet), so I just lay it on that.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

Ah earplugs thing is no bother, I have tinnitus and never listen to headphones anyway!

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link

can someone recommend a wireless charging pad that takes advantage of the SE's fast charging?

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

do you want one that charges well at a reasonable price, or do you want to peacock it

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link

I've got one of the Samsung Fast Charge wireless stands that holds the phone at an angle on my work desk so I can poke at the phone while it's charging

I've got the insanely overpriced Nomad charger that looks luxe on my nightstand, but it has two charging spots, a couple discreet extra usb ports on the back, and they have a model with a stand for the watch if you have one

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

i think fast charging is a wired-only proposition? could be wrong here tho...

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

yeah, it's not the "fast charge" standard, it's just uh... a charging pad that has higher than the lowest amount of charge for a charging stand

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link

and yes, no charging pad will do actual fast charging

just plug it into a good charger that supports it, or if it supports even faster charging, get a usb-c charger and a lightning-to-usb-c cable

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

and get a good cable, too. I got a seemingly-OK Amazon lightning-to-C cable and it sucks: lots of "not supported" errors and charging failures.

stet, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

buy Anker stuff as default imo

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link

fs thought this was a simple question

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:21 (three years ago) link

go to thewirecutter.com and buy whatever charger they say

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

Fast charging requires a USB-C power adapter that offers at least 18 watts.

got it

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:23 (three years ago) link

thewirecutter lads are a bunch of yankee scoundrels who always cite model names that don't exist in the world's greatest country, blighty britain

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link

yeah, I was going to add a caveat about that but then was like, eh who cares :)

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

If I'm really bored one day I might see how quickly the Qi pad charges vs regular Lightning cable vs the 12W iPad charger (which, seeing as it's <18W, may do nothing different). Can't really see fast charging being a major need tbh. Esp atm.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

I just want fast charging because I often forget to even charge my phone - so when I do remember, it would be nice to give it the max amount of juice possible...

megan thee macallan 18 year (||||||||), Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

This is where I admit I’ve been abusing the fact usb-c lets devices tell the charger the maximum they’re allowed to charge at

so I‘be been using the ridiculous Macbook Pro charger that’s like 96W or something for everything from my Nintendo Switch to my phone to my laptop

mh, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

(xp) Fair enough. I usually have a spare battery and cable in any bag I take out of the house, a habit formed in the summer of Pokemon Go. Of course that's now no good if I want to use earbuds too. I can see how zapping a nearly-dead phone up to 50% with a high-wattage charger would be handy if you're about to head out and not be near a power source for hours.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

get a Qi charger than does 7.5W (not 10W, Apple products don't support that yet) and make sure it comes with a wall charger better than 5A so it can handle that mode, otherwise it'll be stuck at 5W.
usually the decent chargers will include a USB-C port, even if your Qi pad doesn't use USB-C.

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

altogether you don't need to spend more than like $30-40 on it

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

mh you haven't been abusing anything, this is the world we deserve, the world THEY said we couldn't have

lukas, Tuesday, 19 May 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

do any of you know how to use an iOS device as a webcam for a mac laptop in clamshell mode using an external monitor?

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

There's an app I tried a while back – iView or similar (sorry, I've totally forgotten but will look it up). It was though, a bit crap - the image is good but there's an unavoidable lag

stet, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

hmm, yeah I need this to be crisp and fast. I can just use the laptop camera but I'd rather be able to look forward than down.

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

I have bought a dodgy HDMI capture stick off ebay to see i can usably hook up my DSLR for the same reason, yeah

stet, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

i'm getting a new Mini and it's occurred to me i could use the old one as a.... NAS? has anyone here ever done this?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

stick something under your laptop

j., Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

well I'd also like to be able to use the external screen because it is so much bigger. I've been just using my iPad for videoconferences where I don't need to be looking forward all the time, and just putting it to the side: good for faculty meetings and the like. but I have a couple things coming up where that won't be as good (I have teleprompter like needs for those). the laptop screen is big enough for that, I'll just put the video window to the side, it's not crucial that I see them particularly well, it is crucial that they see me and that I can see the text I need to read.

Joey Corona (Euler), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

not exactly stoked for the madness today tbh. Maybe they'll make macos worse idk

stet, Monday, 22 June 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

seem like they're getting back on track little by little - hopefully they can continue down a positive path. don't have my hopes up too much tho

scampo simmonite (||||||||), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link

have been waiting for the ARMBook for like 5 years at this point, hopefully they make it smol

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

Maybe they'll bring back Rosetta.

Alba, Monday, 22 June 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link

hah, it's already possible to build ARM binaries on x86, see: iOS apps. There's no need for emulation in common cases. Another LLVM payoff I think.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

I agree from a developer standpoint and as someone who generally uses new apps, but the #1 complaint for most people is “my program that I bought no longer works and I don’t know why”

kind of a hard balance between “things should just keep working” and “apps need to be updated to be modern in regards to platform/security/etc”

I’m generally on board with the second because oh boy remember what a mess Windows became when everyone wanted to run their apps from eons ago on every new Windows version

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

it's cool that we can so easily run dos programs on mac os though.

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link

there's some real good Raymond Chen posts about that sort of thing xp

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

i feel like i only just got used to intel, my last computer still had unrunnable powerpc binaries on it somewhere

j., Monday, 22 June 2020 15:22 (three years ago) link

this has definitely become less of an issue over time now that virtualization and emulation have gotten better!

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

and, iirc, now macs have been on intel longer than they were on powerpc

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link

yeah but powerpc didn't feel like going over to the ENEMY it felt like a cool new superboost

j., Monday, 22 June 2020 15:34 (three years ago) link

ah yes, the weird apple cult thing where processors from motorola/ibm (!) were magic

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

there were some genuine perks of powerpc at the time but the idea that any component that deviated from standard Windows boxes was part of the “apple magic” was always a weird take imo

solo scampito (mh), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

A Mac Pro on a many-core POWER9 sure would be something tho huh?

all cats are beautiful (silby), Monday, 22 June 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link


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